Is anyone having a problem where calls go straight to voicemail when data is in use?
This is a serious flaw if its by design!
I'm on o2 with the latest rooted rom. Not the custom modaco one.
Well I've just found out this is a feature of 2g rather than a phone problem. You can only take calls and browse if you have 3g signal.
Maybe on O2, but I get calls coming in no matter what I am doing on my Hero with a 2G signal.
I'm on Orange.
Same on my Nokia's too.
We only have 2G at home so I know its not a 2G / 3G thing (for me at least).
Perhaps I need some different APN settings. Could someone else on o2 UK confirm whether this is a problem or not? Also if you could post your apn details?
My apologies.
You are right and i am wrong.
If browsing on 2G the call is routed to voicemail. Even if you press Home and stop browsing, the call is routed to voicemail.
It seems that only until you have tried to make an outgoing call will it kill something and accept incoming calls again.
No wonder I keep getting missed call texts from Orange.
It would appear that if the Hero is doing anything on GPRS (Weather, Mail, RSS etc) it will not accept calls.
Thats pretty crap.
My old Nokia's were not affected like this I'm sure... maybe they were and I never noticed.
if you can open a Browser window while on a call it will tell you that there is no data connection or to use WiFi.
So is this a 'feature' of the Hero or the 2G network ?
From further investigation it seems to apply to all 2g networks. I've done a bit of googling and there are a few posts about the iphone and similar issues.
I wouldn't mind if I could get a 3g signal in most places. I really hope that radio firmware gets better. Seeing as I can get 3g on o2 in a different phone at home.
Sigh, oh well... looks like people need to learn to SMS me or actually leave a message
This also explains why my TomTom used to crap out whenever I was on the phone (Nokia) sometimes... when it worked I must have been in a 3G area.
it's both phone and network dependent.
many phones do this on 2G, as there is no 2G device in the world that i am aware of that will do voice AND data at the same time.
However, due to this limitation, many networks have set up their network to forcibly terminate a data connection when a call is waiting to be routed to that phone. I don't know if it is a command that is sent to the phone that the phone has to interpret and support, or if it is simply killed from the network end.
some network/phone combos do it, some dont. it just depends on the combination of the two i think.
similar things happen on HSDPA, yet you can see the same HTC phone get forced down from HSDPA to 3G on t-mobile to accept an incoming call, but do nothing and get a voicemail on Vodafone!
Thanks for the response rhedgehog. I think if nothing else its good that people are made aware, I had no idea!
I would be interested to know whether other networks disconnect the data on the hero in order to receive calls. It would also be interesting to know whether other android handsets do the same.
My data habits have now changed. No more exchange push email - only check every 15 mins.
Reception at my house is horrible and I'm not getting messages until I leave the area..... however when i send them.. The recipient gets then right away.... Why? And is there a way to force the phone to check for sms waiting to be received? Maybe through my wifi?
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No MMS via external networks.
Verizon uses something called "split DNS" so that you can't even get a successful DNS lookup (IP Address) of the hosts mentioned in your phone's APNs if your only active interface is the WiFi I/F - but if you look up them up via the Mobile Network I/F, you can find them.
If VZW does that, then it's also highly likely that they perform ingress route-filtering in the IP layer. You can't contact VZW's MMS servers "from the outside world" - only from Verizon's own network. (Your phone's Mobile Network I/F has an IP address assigned within one of VZW's blocks of addresses).
Presumably this is done to prevent free-loading, spamming, or DoS attackes on MMS servers from networks outside of Verizon's own.
In any event, no MMS via WiFi.
bftb0
PS As for the asymmetry in delay between sending and receiving at your location via the Mobile Network - no clues.
rd5150 said:
Reception at my house is horrible and I'm not getting messages until I leave the area..... however when i send them.. The recipient gets then right away.... Why? And is there a way to force the phone to check for sms waiting to be received? Maybe through my wifi?
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using google voice helps. i have the same problem at my house and i just use google voice
GV is probably the best bet
There is another one called text plus. Stay away from that one. My brother in law went to Europe and used that app although it worked it was like a half an hour wait to get messages. I figured there is a lot of "routing" but from home I had the app installed on my wifes and my phones. In the same house connected to the same network of course it was like 20 minutes to receive the message
ok so i bought this phone and it's delightful. I dont get the speeds i would normally get on a native tmobile 4g phone, but most of the time i'm either working or at home so wifi is always available
however, i've recently moved into a new apartment with my fiance and i only get about 1 bar of reception in my bedroom, and pretty much no bars in my living room and bathroom. Unfortunately, it dosen't appear as though this phone has any native wifi calling, and was wondering if anybody had some sort of resolution for this?
Yes i thought of some of the other apps out there but what i dont like is the fact that i either have to subscribe a new number, or there are advertisements before ringing, or how i have to disable an app when i go out because my data connection isn't as fast as a native tmobile 4g, so im kind of in a bind... i really love the phone and would prefer to keep using it, i just wish that i had something that would be able to run as smoothly as any of my previous tmobile android phones...
anyways i know it's probably asking for alot, but if someone has a solution, please let me know, i tried searching but i didn't come up with much
This would be awesome.
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ok so i bought this phone and it's delightful. I dont get the speeds i would normally get on a native tmobile 4g phone, but most of the time i'm either working or at home so wifi is always available
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however, i've recently moved into a new apartment with my fiance and i only get about 1 bar of reception in my bedroom, and pretty much no bars in my living room and bathroom. Unfortunately, it dosen't appear as though this phone has any native wifi calling, and was wondering if anybody had some sort of resolution for this?
Yes i thought of some of the other apps out there but what i dont like is the fact that i either have to subscribe a new number, or there are advertisements before ringing, or how i have to disable an app when i go out because my data connection isn't as fast as a native tmobile 4g, so im kind of in a bind... i really love the phone and would prefer to keep using it, i just wish that i had something that would be able to run as smoothly as any of my previous tmobile android phones...
anyways i know it's probably asking for alot, but if someone has a solution, please let me know, i tried searching but i didn't come up with much
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I would like to recommend this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5ndm9pcCJd
It will do everything you are wanting, plus you can make calls and save your minuets even if you have service, if your in an area where your data is fast enough. It integrates with the phone well and even uses the built in dialer.
I bought this app back when i got my first tablet that didn't even have cell capabilities and I've used it on various devices since. i think you will find the call quality is excellent.
tekhnologia said:
ok so i bought this phone and it's delightful. I dont get the speeds i would normally get on a native tmobile 4g phone, but most of the time i'm either working or at home so wifi is always available
however, i've recently moved into a new apartment with my fiance and i only get about 1 bar of reception in my bedroom, and pretty much no bars in my living room and bathroom. Unfortunately, it dosen't appear as though this phone has any native wifi calling, and was wondering if anybody had some sort of resolution for this?
Yes i thought of some of the other apps out there but what i dont like is the fact that i either have to subscribe a new number, or there are advertisements before ringing, or how i have to disable an app when i go out because my data connection isn't as fast as a native tmobile 4g, so im kind of in a bind... i really love the phone and would prefer to keep using it, i just wish that i had something that would be able to run as smoothly as any of my previous tmobile android phones...
anyways i know it's probably asking for alot, but if someone has a solution, please let me know, i tried searching but i didn't come up with much
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Ok, this is like 99% of what i want, i just want people to call my NATIVE phone number to call me when im on wifi.
I dont want to hand out an alternative number, that's my biggest issue at the moment
for example:
if my family is in an accident, and they have my native number listed in their emergency contact, and they try calling, then that could be rather bad...
but yea, if you have any other ideas, i'm all open to it
When you set up your Google Voice number, you put your "native" number in google voice, when someone calls it, your google voice number will ring, the person calling is not aware of your real number... i'll give my google voice number out... 731-412-0080. When you call it, it automatically rings my house and my cellphone and which ever one i pick up on, you will have no clue, all that matters is when you call my google voice number you get me, I have several forwarding filters set up...
You would simply set up your native number calls forward to your Google voice automatically.
So If your native number was 555-121-1234 and I called it, I would be silently fowarded to your GV number and your cell would ring... (google voice it's self is completely free) go here to see: https://www.google.com/voice
tekhnologia said:
Ok, this is like 99% of what i want, i just want people to call my NATIVE phone number to call me when im on wifi.
I dont want to hand out an alternative number, that's my biggest issue at the moment
for example:
if my family is in an accident, and they have my native number listed in their emergency contact, and they try calling, then that could be rather bad...
but yea, if you have any other ideas, i'm all open to it
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i already have google voice but never considered forwarding my tmobile number to it... hmm.. you may have made my day =)
Glad I could help... Google voice + that app oi told you about in my 1st post = awesomeness
tekhnologia said:
i already have google voice but never considered forwarding my tmobile number to it... hmm.. you may have made my day =)
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I use google voice on that app but the call quality is not decent at all. Ive only used it on wifi and its terrible. Voce gets distored some lag, and even some echoing.
ok so here was my ultimate solution
got the app that was mentioned and also got tasker
i set it so that whenever i would enter my home wireless network exclusively, tasker would make my phone forward calls to my google voice number, which in turn forwarded the calls to my app =)
also set it so that when i leave my network, it would automatically disengage the ipgroove app, so all in all i gotta say it worked out ok, thanks!
I use groove ip
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Yup that's what I recommended I have had it for a year now.
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I use groove ip
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if anyone chooses to go this route and there's no wifi calling app in the future, just let me know, it was a wonderful way to get to do what i needed to do, and with the help of tasker, it will auto engage/disengage features, almost as if we did have the native wifi calling feature that the s2 has, but yea, i'd be glad to help anytime =)
Taking up on technologia's offer to help
@tekhnologia: When you are at home connected via wifi, are you forwarding your t-mobile number to your google voice number (perhaps using "conditional call forwarding")?
Otherwise, I think I more or less understand your setup, but a brief list of steps would be awesome!
Thanks for the offer to help.
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if anyone chooses to go this route and there's no wifi calling app in the future, just let me know, it was a wonderful way to get to do what i needed to do, and with the help of tasker, it will auto engage/disengage features, almost as if we did have the native wifi calling feature that the s2 has, but yea, i'd be glad to help anytime =)
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ok so i tied my number to google voice because my phone doesn't get signal in 90% of my workplace (it has wifi though) and the cell signal by my house is pretty low so all calls sound like crap. so what i was hoping to do was be able to place calls and texts from my sprint number through google voice. if i go into the settings of the google voice app i set it so the google voice app gives me notifications when i receive texts and i am able to use it to text and receive texts as long as i have a data connection (wifi most of the time) now the problem with this is that if i don't have a cell signal and am connected to only wifi, calls dont come through at all like i would expect them to..
before i did the integration i was able to place calls over wifi but it would display my google voice number to the people i was calling but now that i did the integration i cant make or receive calls over wifi? if anyone knows how to enable that it would help a lot, if it can even be done that is...
on a side note, i experimented with it using my house phone and noticed that if i have no signal and am only on the wifi, the people who are calling me (in this case me calling my cell phone from my house) still hear a ringing tone and after about 30 seconds get my voicemail. so what the heck. you would think if its ringing that i would get calls over the wifi but apparently not...?
Install GrooveIP....works perfect.
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Install GrooveIP....works perfect.
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for the longest time i have known about that app but thought it was only necessary on phones that weren't activated on any carriers.. *facepalm* i just installed it and it worked perfect! thanks a lot man! im so happy right now hahaha
*thanked*
I didn't know where else to ask this so I created this thread to hopefully someone can help resolve my issue. Ok lets begin.
I am having issues with recieving phone calls where I live. I do not get the best of service but it works. Now the odd thing I am facing is I can get 4g outside of my house, literally outside my house. My wife has, unfortunately an iphone, and gets great service inside. She is able to recieve calls and whatnot. I am not. I will get text messages saying why I did not answer and I am not even recieveing these calls. Sometimes turning airplane mode on and off will trigger 4g which is weird but shouldnt affect calls or at least idts. As some will know I did have to Lg Flash tool to return to stock, so maybe my issue lies there, idk.
Now here is where it gets interesting. I am a google Voice user. I will recieve the voicemail but not once did it ring. I do not know if google changed something ever since merging Hangouts with Voice but its weird. I have always faced these issues no matter what phone I have used. If someone can please enlighten me with a solution I would greatly appreciate it. If this is not where to ask, mods please relocate. Thank you.
Edit: I am rooted through the stump method and I use a lot of WiFi on my phone. If that helps.
Make sure your mobile network is set to LTE/CDMA ...and not global.
I've done that and it eventually turns back to global...
Update profile and prl too
I guess I should have been more precise. I know all the basic routines to try and get good service. I am just curious if anyone else faces these issues?
Try wifi calling or maybe complain to sprint and get a free airrave. Also for Google voice there is a bunch of setting you can setup on the Web. Google "Google voice settings" and login and check all the settings. Mine were off and was sending people it didn't know directly to voice-mail.
See that's where my other problem lies... I have satellite internet because that's all that is available in my area. Sprint's airrave doesn't work with satellite internet. I've already tried. WiFi calling is my only option except, doesn't that use my internet data? I only have a set amount I can use a month.
treezy26 said:
See that's where my other problem lies... I have satellite internet because that's all that is available in my area. Sprint's airrave doesn't work with satellite internet. I've already tried. WiFi calling is my only option except, doesn't that use my internet data? I only have a set amount I can use a month.
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Yeah that also uses data.