I just switched to sprint from at&t and wanted to know what the pro/cons were to rooting and installing a custom rom vs using it stock.
att disables alot of what makes an android phone android. does sprint do the same?
will I be missing out on alot if I dont root and replace the rom?
input greatly appreciated.
No sprint does not necessarily cripple the android experience, I switched from my HTC Hero on Sprint to the LG Optimus S because it offered a more stock android experience and I did not have to root to get 2.2. The only downside so far has been the Sprint ID stuff, but just install the clean ID and you should be good.
First off, sorry for posting here, I am not sure where to post since there is no Optimus S thread. I am a third day Droid convert, and I have successfully rooted my phone and bypassed the Sprint ID (phone is not currently activated) I do have WiFi in my home, etc etc. I have been trying to use the various info I have found on Flashing my phone to work completely with cricket (especially since NONE of the local cricket dealers can flash it without bricking the MMS). Unfortunately, all of these guys are speaking greek to me. I have downloaded and installed QPST v2.7 build 3.0, and I have managed to set my SPC to 000000 using the CDMA workshop. Now, I have NO idea which PSL's to use for non-roaming, and no idea where to get them, and most importantly, I am completely lost on what I am supposed to be doing beyond this point. Can anyone help or redirect me to a more thorough walk through that does not assume I have any skill at programming droids?
Thanks in advance.
Here are the links I have been studying.
(Error420, not the guy selling his fix)
What are the MSID/MIN, Where do I find/install a cricket CAB or ROM and what is god's name is a PST/EPST?
Are all of these supposed to work on my LG Optimus S also?
Hi, I dropped my OV and it is randomly restarting or just shutting off itself so i took out my old optimus S and flashed it to use with virgin mobile. Texting and calling is working on the optimus s on virgin mobile, but I can't get internet/mms working with VM on the optimus s. It keeps popping up code 67 can not connect to data. I changed the build.prop to VM instead of sprint, prl is 60667 i believe. Also under about phone > status > network it still shows sprint. Could i flash IHO on the optimus S, would that fix apn settings? Right now im running Ggrom on the optimus s w/ custom kernel
nope.
you're probably not going to get 3g/1x data, or MMS, working, since your s has a different radio setup than the v.
you can't get a flashable v radio (boooo LG and VM) so there's no real way I've read to fix it.
My knowledge base comes from flashing a Sprint firmware (includes the sprint radio.img) on my old OV after there was no other way to unbrick, and lots of research about trying to get the data working again on it before I finally overflashed it (and now it no longer even lights up when plugged in, much less from the power button, no emergency mode, nothing.)
Dead as a doornail.
So VM activated an optimus S ESN on your account?
Interesting. Didn't think they'd do that. LG's online system at least can recognize the phone model just from the ESN, I'm surprised VM would activate that S!
search AndroidCentral for "change mip ppp settings optimus v" for a little more information.
If anyone has more experience with this issue than bigsupersquid, I don't know who it could be. Trust what he says above, he went through months of trying to get that OV working, and posted tons of relevant info about his experiences.
i flashed the ov esn and meid to the optimus s is why i was hoping i could use a OV ROM since the phone thinks its a OV. I have done some reading and people say they have ran the new screen stock ov kernel with an optimus s rom and everything was working. I'll play around with it and let ya know if i figure anything out.
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search AndroidCentral for "change mip ppp settings optimus v" for a little more information.
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there is also some info in this thread but it's kinda long. look towards the end.
Hi all
I wanted to ask all of you a question and see if you can guide me to the right direction. I have a virgin mobile Optimus V running bumblebee rom with clockwork mod. I wanted to upgrade my phone on virgin mobile to something newer and wanted to convert my LG optimus V to the Sprint Network. Is there a safe way to do this, and if there is is there any instructions on how to get this done the right way.
Also i might be wrong but not sure if the LG optimus s uses a different screen, but just looking for tips and how to tut.
Plus has anyone tried adding this to the sprint network and will i be able to add it once i convert it. do i just provide the SN of the phone or do they need anything else that the V phone don't have.
thanks for all your help
best regards
cd112
I doubt sprint will activate a virgin mobile ESN.
Call them and see if they'd be willing to activate your ESN.
You can flash sprint firmware to an OV, but there's no way to go back to the VM firmware, unfortunately. LG only released broken optimus V firmware files that won't flash.
Yes newbies do use the search button. I am also interested in the possibility of adding my Optimus V to a family plan on sprints network. Anyone have any luck?
Would someone point me in the right direction or explain why the new baseband has problems on t-mobiles US network?
I have been searching and cannot find very much.
Thanks in advance.
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If I may elaborate on what Jrhodes85 was saying:
With the new baseband, the 1700Mhz band (which accounts for half of T-mobile's HSDPA coverage in the US, among other carriers) is completely unstable, if not non-existent.
Most international carriers' data works great, but O1 users in North America and possibly a couple other regions are slowly getting pushed into obsolescence.
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So does this mean that T-Mobiles network is using a frequency hardly anybody uses which also means future ROMs which are build upon the new baseband?
I am not with T-Mobile USA because I am also German but because I feel they are the only company which uses GSM smartphones and has reasonable prices for data and voice.
ATT Sprint and Verizon in my opinion are drastically overpriced for they bad product they deliver and MetroPCS or BoostMobile seem to have questionable reputation when it comes to service quality.
What would this mean for our future with T-Mobile?
What do they do with new smartphones? They also use the old baseband?
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So does this mean that T-Mobiles network is using a frequency hardly anybody uses which also means future ROMs which are build upon the new baseband?
I am not with T-Mobile USA because I am also German but because I feel they are the only company which uses GSM smartphones and has reasonable prices for data and voice.
ATT Sprint and Verizon in my opinion are drastically overpriced for they bad product they deliver and MetroPCS or BoostMobile seem to have questionable reputation when it comes to service quality.
What would this mean for our future with T-Mobile?
What do they do with new smartphones? They also use the old baseband?
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The baseband is just the software that controls the phone's radio systems. It so happens that the baseband released in Europe apparently does not support the 1700 mhz part of the spectrum that carriers like T-Mobile broadcasts their signal on. I highly doubt that LG is passing on supporting an entire frequency range, as that would be a terrible business decision considering there are more carriers than just T-Mobile using it.
The spectrum T-mobile broadcasts on has other issues (no clear roadmap to 4G, etc), but you won't need to really worry about that for years.
To the OP: How does this manifest? Well, after flashing the new baseband, my data speeds have slowed down considerably. Google Music is now unusable, yet I am still able to make voice calls and send texts. I am not on T-Mobile, but I am using an Optimus T on WIND here in Canada.
Thanks for the responses.
The other day I briefly switched to the new baseband. One thing I noticed was that I had 3G in my office whereas before I did not, I don't know why, but I didn't notice any really problems. Only after reading a few things that others were saying I decided to go back to the old baseband.
What do the new tmobile phones have for a baseband? If they are on gingerbread are they on the new baseband? How does that work?
well I have a 30 MB dataplan hahah so I can somewhat not care about G3.
I mainly use it for Google Maps sometimes and thats it.
I am to cheap to pay more than 30 Dollars for such services. If they would charge 5 dollars for 500 MB ror so I would do it.
Well I hope that the baseband modem drivers for the LG Optimus at one point can support both frequencies as I just learned that this
is a driver option.
The German iPhone can be made to work in the USA when you just hack into the phone and activate the frequency used in the USA.
Tmobile isn't really anything compared to AT&T or Verizon, they honestly have far superior phones...in the days of the g1 which ran specifically on tmobile usa was easy to switch radio...back than it was Radio SPL and was as simple installing as flashing any rom or kernel...my question was simple....
Can tmobile users in the US have new baseband that provides working mobile data (3g/2g)..because without it working, the phones practically useless without wifi
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Can tmobile users in the US have new baseband that provides working mobile data (3g/2g)..because without it working, the phones practically useless without wifi
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Unless someone is able to merge that portion of the old baseband with the new baseband, I sincerely doubt we're going to see this resolved.
T-Mobile seems to have no interest in pushing LG to update the Optimus T to Gingerbread. Either that, or they're waiting to improve the adoption rate of Gingerbread on the G2X before they bother with older phones (horrible logic, if you ask me).
I hate to say it, but there may need to be somewhat of a divide among developers if certain roms can't be built for both basebands. Of course, this isn't anything new for the Optimus line. The Optimus V is all on its own, too.
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Unless someone is able to merge that portion of the old baseband with the new baseband, I sincerely doubt we're going to see this resolved.
T-Mobile seems to have no interest in pushing LG to update the Optimus T to Gingerbread. Either that, or they're waiting to improve the adoption rate of Gingerbread on the G2X before they bother with older phones (horrible logic, if you ask me).
I hate to say it, but there may need to be somewhat of a divide among developers if certain roms can't be built for both basebands. Of course, this isn't anything new for the Optimus line. The Optimus V is all on its own, too.
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Well i know that on the openoptimus ROM new Baseband 3g works fine but not on the other ROMs thats why i thought it was a apn issue but i never got a chance to check cause i bricked mine going back to the v10 baseband and got a new p509 from warranty, and as far as tmobile update i highly doubt it because i know someone that works for tmobile and he said they are phasing the phone out they are not even on the shelf at most stores i wish some one would just let us know is it just the apn setting cause we can put those in manually here (I have a link if anyone needs how to do that PM me) i just gave my P509 to my girlfriend so i dont want to try and then have her not have data when she gets a new phone i will try but not right now
so based on what you say
the new openoptimus rom once stable and running fine on the Optimus T would allow full access to 3G ???
I bricked my phone wanted to do a replacement and the guy on the phone at T-Mobile told me they dont because they dont support it anymore.
So I guess you are pretty right with your assumption.
Fortunately I was able to recover it on my own.
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so based on what you say
the new openoptimus rom once stable and running fine on the Optimus T would allow full access to 3G ???
I bricked my phone wanted to do a replacement and the guy on the phone at T-Mobile told me they dont because they dont support it anymore.
So I guess you are pretty right with your assumption.
Fortunately I was able to recover it on my own.
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Pretty much and art this point I'm not sure it's worth the risk she should get a new phone in a few weeks I will test everything after that
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That is just sad.....about tmobile phasing the OpT out, its one of the best entry level smartphone they provide,even when I walk into to pay my bill I still see people buying the OpT....that's why I enjoy devs like andy and bytecode, they're all developing with old baseband
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I agree - if the camera would be better I would more than happy with this phone and not need more.
Yea its a good phone I loved my Optimus and in fact still do I mod it for my girlfriend now for fun but I will tell you going from the Optimus to this phone (HTC Sensation) is amazing I love this phone and if you are going to upgrade it is a great phone, granted the Tmobile gs2 had more storage and a better processor (there is really no difference) the development in the Tmobile version of the galaxy s2 is slow and week as hell almost all themed ROMs while mine has great ROMS full working ICS ROMs both with HTC Sence 3.5 and stock ICS ROMs as well as official support for cyanogen mod and Miui which the Tmobile GS2 doesn't have just a little tip to my fellow Tmobile users .....anyway back on topic I'm pretty sure we can get the new baseband cyanogen mod working on our Optimus t and I will figure out how as soon as I get my girl another phone
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...anyway back on topic I'm pretty sure we can get the new baseband cyanogen mod working on our Optimus t and I will figure out how as soon as I get my girl another phone
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I am almost certain that will not be the case. Android developers, while talented, are not electrical engineers and developing firmware to run a 3G radio is far beyond their skill set. The only possibility is for LG to update with a new baseband that doesn't screw over Optimus T users.
all of these new baseband scares me now.
I am using the new baseband on Optimus T on Mobilicity network (1700)
is there a risk that I may bricked this phone?
I am using Adam's N1 CM7 , with V20G baseband
It works well for me and I love CM7
Valent
I dont think you can brick the phone just by flashing the baseband.
And the baseband discussion is an issue with the T-Mobile service in the USA as I think in Europe it works fine and I think Asia should be the same.
Does Indonesia use GSM or CDMA?
valent|n0 said:
all of these new baseband scares me now.
I am using the new baseband on Optimus T on Mobilicity network (1700)
is there a risk that I may bricked this phone?
I am using Adam's N1 CM7 , with V20G baseband
It works well for me and I love CM7
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I don't think you ruined your phone. I had mine on the new baseband for a couple days and didn't have any problems. I reverted back to the old one and it has been just fine.
I have an Optimus One T too, but I bought it unlocked on eBay. My carrier uses 2100MHz for 3G where I live. So far I've had no problems with the old baseband. I'm using CM7.1 (mik_os 6.5.8) but would like to try adfad666's latest versions, which only support the new baseband. Do you guys think it would work?
I've got a lg-p509 optimus-t in the U.S., do I understand correctly that I'm on the old baseband since t-mo never did the official gb update for this phone?
When I check in "about phone" my baseband info is the seemingly meaningless "V07u-000-000-mar-23-2009" not v10 or v20g etc.
P.S. I'm running adfad666's cm-7.2.0-RCO-optimusone-kang with goldenleaf 2.6.32.9 #1 right now with no issues to speak of.
Update: I booted windows and installed the lg mobile support tool which seems to show I'm at v10s, which they want to update to 10L maybe??
"get info" button returns 10s and main lg tool window shows 10L below my phone model.
it says update available, but is kind of short on detail.