Hi folks! I have a question. My friend has htc hero with latest official rom (dunno what it is). He is a traveler and wants gps to work without using data connection, bcs it's extremely expensive on his operator. He said, that in android 1.6 there was pure gps and it needn't to use data connection to receive location. If he uses any app like gps status or nav app without data connection, gps doesn't receive location. I have samsung device and there is an app, called AngryGPS, there i can change everything about gps settings, including SUPL server and how gps will work (MSBASED or STANDALONE). How can i change settings on his hero? Maybe by porting this app on hero? Rooting is not a problem, i can make it, if it's necessary.
added: if i turn off receiving location from wireless networks in android settings, it not helps
P.S.: Sorry for my poor english
zy-el said:
Hi folks! I have a question. My friend has htc hero with latest official rom (dunno what it is). He is a traveler and wants gps to work without using data connection, bcs it's extremely expensive on his operator. He said, that in android 1.6 there was pure gps and it needn't to use data connection to receive location. If he uses any app like gps status or nav app without data connection, gps doesn't receive location. I have samsung device and there is an app, called AngryGPS, there i can change everything about gps settings, including SUPL server and how gps will work (MSBASED or STANDALONE). How can i change settings on his hero? Maybe by porting this app on hero? Rooting is not a problem, i can make it, if it's necessary.
added: if i turn off receiving location from wireless networks in android settings, it not helps
P.S.: Sorry for my poor english
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Use iGo for android...it's easy to use and only gps is req...no data connection, i used it a time ago and was very pleased with it...the menu is a little laggy put don't worry because it works well on the phone, without having any problems.
Keep me updated if you got the problem solved
Stefan
he said, that he uses Maverick and don't want to change it, he wants to change system settings to use gps in standalone mode
zy-el said:
he said, that he uses Maverick and don't want to change it, he wants to change system settings to use gps in standalone mode
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well he has to close the data connection and that's all
Stefan
zy-el said:
... If he uses any app like gps status or nav app without data connection, gps doesn't receive location....
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that's the problem
zy-el said:
that's the problem
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there are data & gps apps...so if you don't use a data connection you can't download content...that's why i recommend iGO for android
Stefan
he needs not to download content, he needs to connect to GPS without enabling data connection. Anyway, problem solved by installing patched version of angrygps and editing operation mode of gps module
zy-el said:
he needs not to download content, he needs to connect to GPS without enabling data connection. Anyway, problem solved by installing patched version of angrygps and editing operation mode of gps module
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that why i recommended iGO, it uses the maps preloaded on the sd card...
you completely ignore my messages? or my english is SO bad?
HIS GPS WON'T CONNECT WITHOUT DATA CONNECTION IS UP! Not the freaking nav application! Maverick uses preloaded maps too, GPS Status&Toolbox doesn't use maps at all, Turbo GPS doesn't use maps, every program that uses GPS to receive location or establishing connection with sattelites DOESN'T receive location or establish connection without data connection!
Now the problem is clear?
As i told, problem is solved
And iGO is total ****
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you completely ignore my messages? or my english is SO bad?
HIS GPS WON'T CONNECT WITHOUT DATA CONNECTION IS UP! Not the freaking nav application! Maverick uses preloaded maps too, GPS Status&Toolbox doesn't use maps at all, Turbo GPS doesn't use maps, every program that uses GPS to receive location or establishing connection with sattelites DOESN'T receive location or establish connection without data connection!
Now the problem is clear?
As i told, problem is solved
And iGO is total ****
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Damn tell me that "HIS GPS WON'T CONNECT WITHOUT DATA CONNECTION IS UP" from the first time... btw this is a rom related problem...
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i have all the right roms installed and im sure all i need now is the appropriate software....... i live in canada......and i want to use the cell towers instead of satellites.
thx all
phew i just spent all day trying to figure this stuff out and i still am in the dark......ack!
Google Maps with My Location
Microsoft Live Search
windows maps dont work for canada and does google maps need a constant internet connection? telus wont give my htc unlimited net service at all.
dieseldennis said:
windows maps dont work for canada and does google maps need a constant internet connection? telus wont give my htc unlimited net service at all.
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I believe it does. Because if you start the program with out any data connection it will exit out. And if you are trying to go on a trip and need directions or are trying to follow the map it wont update unless you have a constant data connection.
dieseldennis said:
windows maps dont work for canada and does google maps need a constant internet connection? telus wont give my htc unlimited net service at all.
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Yes it does need internet connection , it downloads maps as you go!
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Google Maps with My Location
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I've never been able to pull a location with GMM on the Mogul using just towers
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I've never been able to pull a location with GMM on the Mogul using just towers
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Maybe in canada it doesnt work...I tried in NYC and it worked. Not really accurate but good for emergencies i guess
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I've never been able to pull a location with GMM on the Mogul using just towers
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Are you using a Custom ROM?
Because I hear that some Custom ROMS have the AGPS feauture disabled. This is what is used for cellular traingulation ( using the towers )
i think i figures it out for now guys....... i didnt know that i had satellite gps on my phone already . i loaded all the appropriate roms from this awsome site!....... so now im just looking fo an easily hackable gps navigator i think ill try tomtom for now but i gotta figure out how to load and register the iso to my pda........ if i like it ill definetly buy it but i want to sure and safe this stuff isnt cheap
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I've never been able to pull a location with GMM on the Mogul using just towers
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It's my understanding that Sprint doesn't use towers to locate position, so you can't use the Mogul to report your location with towers...you would have to use the GPS.
TomTom is working great
Works great with or without cell signal and easy to install and fix.
Is there any GPS program that doesnt require a data connection? Some that have a local Maps database. I have GPS receiver but i dont have a data plan so can't use google maps. Any suggestion? PathAway is one of them but that thing so complicated to use..and expensive
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Is there any GPS program that doesnt require a data connection? Some that have a local Maps database. I have GPS receiver but i dont have a data plan so can't use google maps. Any suggestion? PathAway is one of them but that thing so complicated to use..and expensive
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Yes there is. I personally use Tom Tom Navigator 6. This is ONLY the GPS software. I believe the other versions of Tom Tom have the software and a bluetooth GPS receiver in the package ( more expensive ).
You can also use the GARMIN GPS software. I believe it is a little bit cheaper on the price then Tom Tom, but It might lack some features.
I'm sure there are others but those two I believe these are the most known / used.
You can also use the GARMIN GPS software. I believe it is a little bit cheaper on the price then Tom Tom, but It might lack some features.
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Actually I find the Garmin has more features than the Tom Tom.
and the latest version of XT has a much better addressing system as far as finding addresses.
I live in a Rural area where roads sometimes have two names because two routes join together....
Tom Tom doesn't recognize one or the other route and will sometimes only take the lesser known route as input instead of the major roadways designation.
Both are great navigators though...I just prefer the garmin.
do you guys know how I set up the GPS after the ROM upgrades? I have tomtom, but it doesn't recognize the internal gps
It was my understanding the location from cell towers doesn't work on 6800 in google maps???
Am I reading this thread correctly that there IS a way to get this to work?
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It was my understanding the location from cell towers doesn't work on 6800 in google maps???
Am I reading this thread correctly that there IS a way to get this to work?
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The original version of google maps doesnt use cellular triangulation (towers / agps) the NEW Beta Version does. Also if you don't like Google Maps you can also use Microsoft Live Search.
To get the New Google Maps Beta w/ Cellular Triangulation go here:
http://www.google.com/gmm/mylocation.html?hl=en
If you want Microsoft Live Search Mobile visit:
ls.windowsmobile.com on your cell phone via your designated browser.
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do you guys know how I set up the GPS after the ROM upgrades? I have tomtom, but it doesn't recognize the internal gps
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Enable Location On instead of 911 on your cell phone first.
You can go to the dialer and press the menu button -- options -- services -- location setting and press GET SETTINGS and enable Location on.
The go to start -- settings -- system -- external gps : make sure that on the programs tap that COM4 is set on the GPS program port menu. On the hardware tab chose NONE as the GPS hardware port menu and for the baud rate choose 4800. Finally on the access tap check the Manage GPS automatically box
All that is to set the GPS to work on GPS software (tom tom, google maps, microsoft live search ......)
Now to the Tom Tom part.
Once Tom Tom is installed and still doesn't get a GPS signal you must then configure the GPS to work with Tom Tom.
Initialize Tom Tom. Go to the Change Preferences Tab ( menu tab that looks like a wrench)
Look for the Show GPS Status Icon ( it is a Satellite ) then click on it.
Once in click on the Configure Tab on the lower left side.
Select the Other NMEA GPS Receiver when you try to select a GPS Receiver : then once selected you will be prompted to change the baud rate ( make sure it is 4800 ). Once you click done you will have a menu stating " GPS is Connected to" and you must choose COM 4:
Now your done.
The bad thing about the GPS in our TITANS / 6800's is that it is not always running and it needs to warm up / initialize first in order to get a signal in any application.
You can either wait until it picks up a signal or download a program to help you initiate the GPS receiver when you want to use Tom Tom.
I'll provide you a program that helps initialize the GPS and then launches Tom Tom for you. ( This saves time trying to warm up the GPS and then looking for the Tom Tom app and running it)
Dont get irritated if Tom Tom doesn't recognize the GPS right away it might take less then a minute when you are in your car or are in sight of the clear sky. Tom Tom doesn't seem to work well in doors.
I hope this helped you out abit.
If you rather choose another GPS warm up / initializing software you can research on your own. Im just supplying you with something that works only with Tom Tom.
Once you download the software extracted in your computer....and copy the software to your device not the SD card - \windows\start menu\programs
This is not a CAB it is an executable.
dieseldennis said:
i have all the right roms installed and im sure all i need now is the appropriate software....... i live in canada......and i want to use the cell towers instead of satellites.
thx all
phew i just spent all day trying to figure this stuff out and i still am in the dark......ack!
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So if I read this right, you want to use a GPS-like function that doesn't use GPS satellites. You want to use cell towers to do triangulation. Navizon makes a product:
http://www.navizon.com/navizon_v-gps.asp
It can provide GPS data output but it does triangulation via cell towers and wifi access points.
Kevan
I have a HTC Fuze. The last few ROMS that i have been using (Energy, RRE, Tael), all the Apps always use the 3G internet to do their work even if a much faster Wifi is connected. Is there any way to make all apps(including things like email) globally prefer the Wifi when available? Also I dont want to have to keep changing settings to do this, It simply needs to be "If Wifi available use it, else use 3G"
Thanks in advance.
What i did was to go to start>settings>connections>advanced>select networks and change the default connection to the internet to "My work network", rather than my 3G network. This way, if theres any connection to the internet needed, my phone will use my wifi connection. The problem with this, however, is that when you dont have a wifi connection available, the phone will not connect to the internet unless you change the above setting back to your 3G network. If anyone knows a better way, please let us know
no i cant keep switching. thats too much trouble. there must be a better way.
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What i did was to go to start>settings>connections>advanced>select networks and change the default connection to the internet to "My work network", rather than my 3G network. This way, if theres any connection to the internet needed, my phone will use my wifi connection. The problem with this, however, is that when you dont have a wifi connection available, the phone will not connect to the internet unless you change the above setting back to your 3G network...
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Does it automatically connect to WiFi when a known network is within range even when the phone is in sleep? If yes, does it disconnect once not in use for a while?
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no i cant keep switching. thats too much trouble. there must be a better way.
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As far as I know there is no way to do it automatically. You can use one or the other but they must be switched manually. All HTC phones have always worked this way. Maybe if the demand was high enough which apparently it is not a Chef could come up with an app that would do it. But for now you must do it manually.
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Does it automatically connect to WiFi when a known network is within range even when the phone is in sleep? If yes, does it disconnect once not in use for a while?
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no i leave wifi off normally to conserve battery.
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As far as I know there is no way to do it automatically. You can use one or the other but they must be switched manually. All HTC phones have always worked this way. Maybe if the demand was high enough which apparently it is not a Chef could come up with an app that would do it. But for now you must do it manually.
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that is extremely failurous. not preferring the fastest internet connection is major fail. did not know that.
My phone does this automatically. It uses the WiFi whenever it's on. If the WiFi is off, it uses the data connection.
Maybe I'm understanding it wrong?
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My phone does this automatically. It uses the WiFi whenever it's on. If the WiFi is off, it uses the data connection.
Maybe I'm understanding it wrong?
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what the heck? how? u must help me find out..
i think it does prefer wifi over 3g in WM 6.5...!!
to check it out here is wt i've done....turn data connection off...check that its on in the notification manager "when u click on the task bar"..then run any app that needs internet " opera, msn messenger, email...etc" while this app is online..
now there r two ways to check it
1-the notification manager & see if it turned to 3g data connection...if so u should find a timer running in ur service provider section, if not then its only using wifi
2-check the communication manager & see if it turned the data connection on, if its off then its using wifi...
thats how it is with my touch pro...i'm using energy rom nov. 08 build
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
wakady said:
i think it does prefer wifi over 3g in WM 6.5...!!
to check it out here is wt i've done....turn data connection off...check that its on in the notification manager "when u click on the task bar"..then run any app that needs internet " opera, msn messenger, email...etc" while this app is online..
now there r two ways to check it
1-the notification manager & see if it turned to 3g data connection...if so u should find a timer running in ur service provider section, if not then its only using wifi
2-check the communication manager & see if it turned the data connection on, if its off then its using wifi...
thats how it is with my touch pro...i'm using energy rom nov. 08 build
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Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
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apparently its some sort of combo of this. i am using 6.5. any apps that have been using 3g continue with it. and i have to go to the comm screen and turn off data to force new apps to consume wifi. which isnt too bad, certainly not as bad as going to the network options. i would wish they made this a bit more seamless like with the desktop technology, i can switch from wired to wireless lan without even dropping a skype call.
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Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
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now i have discovered a new problem. even if i open the app after i have wifi turned on and data turned off, some apps just dont want to use the wifii.
Bing maps and google maps for example just tell me there is no internet.
this is really pissing me off, whats the point of having wifi on a phone if the apps wont use it. i dont really care about the google location service if the data is through the internet, but atleast turn on.
lame.
Hi all im trying to use my GPS on navigation and it doesnt seem to be working one bit i even downloaded a gps app and that wasnt picking it up also any idea's what's wrong?
TipTopFlipFlop said:
Hi all im trying to use my GPS on navigation and it doesnt seem to be working one bit i even downloaded a gps app and that wasnt picking it up also any idea's what's wrong?
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EDIT: the only real GPS dead zones are underground and on a very rare occurence when your time and date aren't synchronized with that of the GPS sattelite. Other then that, have you tried to enable GPS in settings (would be weird if it was disabled by default). It also matters if you have a data connection when using some apps (I have never gotten google maps to show me where I am when I have no data).
Hope some of this is useful to you
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EDIT: the only real GPS dead zones are underground and on a very rare occurence when your time and date aren't synchronized with that of the GPS sattelite. Other then that, have you tried to enable GPS in settings (would be weird if it was disabled by default). It also matters if you have a data connection when using some apps (I have never gotten google maps to show me where I am when I have no data).
Hope some of this is useful to you
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Thank's for the reply the GPS is enabled still no luck,you cant get data on the Galaxy Player anyway i think.
Other people must be having this problem too the thread has had about 200 view's does anyone know anything about this problem?
TipTopFlipFlop said:
Thank's for the reply the GPS is enabled still no luck,you cant get data on the Galaxy Player anyway i think.
Other people must be having this problem too the thread has had about 200 view's does anyone know anything about this problem?
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By data connection he means a wifi connection.
GPS uses data always. So it needs a data stream to get and use location services and maps.
On a phone it uses cellular or wifi but on an ipod style device or the galaxy player it needs wifi.
Without wifi it will never work unless your gps config files are modified; which is something i learned when trying to get the Acer Iconia GPS to work. And even then its probably not going to work.
Turn on wifi. I bet it works.
You now may be thinking "then what good is gps when i do not have a data connection!!?" - and my answer is exactly!!!
Gps on these devices is a gimmick and really only works when wifi is available.
True gps like a tom tom device doesnt need a wifi connection because it uses the gps link iyself for the limited data it needs plus the maps are built in.
On the galaxy player and phones the maps are downloaded at needed because they are hundreds of megs .
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True gps like a tom tom device doesnt need a wifi connection because it uses the gps link iyself for the limited data it needs plus the maps are built in.
On the galaxy player and phones the maps are downloaded at needed because they are hundreds of megs .
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The Galaxy Player works fine as a standalone GPS without need of a wifi connection if you have the right kind of app. I use Sygic but there are several others. You download maps from Sygic to your player so they are available on your device. Works fine on my 5" Galaxy Player. Also there are apps like speedometers which use the GPS and work fine without a wifi connection.
I use Sygic. And also use pre recorded areas in Google Maps when I need it. No need to WI-FI, etc..
It is a good GPS 5 ".
In fact, very good.
Until now no problems experienced with GPS. If you do not connect may be related to your area.
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By data connection he means a wifi connection.
GPS uses data always. So it needs a data stream to get and use location services and maps.
On a phone it uses cellular or wifi but on an ipod style device or the galaxy player it needs wifi.
Without wifi it will never work unless your gps config files are modified; which is something i learned when trying to get the Acer Iconia GPS to work. And even then its probably not going to work.
Turn on wifi. I bet it works.
You now may be thinking "then what good is gps when i do not have a data connection!!?" - and my answer is exactly!!!
Gps on these devices is a gimmick and really only works when wifi is available.
True gps like a tom tom device doesnt need a wifi connection because it uses the gps link iyself for the limited data it needs plus the maps are built in.
On the galaxy player and phones the maps are downloaded at needed because they are hundreds of megs .
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The GPS technology works perfectly fine without data connection. To speed up the first fix, aGPS was developped and uses a data connection when available, but data connection is not mandatory. It's what is used in most if not all smartphones (search for "assisted gps" in wikipedia).
Data connection are required by some navigation software because they need to download the maps or for some obscure reasons. It's the case with google navigation for example.
But you can use a software that doesn't require data connection and store all its map on the device and only uses the GPS signal to do the fix, as gotok pointed out correctly. An android device with a good navigation software is no different than what you call a "true gps like tomtom".
I think you just don't make the difference between GPS (the technology) and navigation software.
I agree that the samsung S wifi's GPS capabilities are not very useful "out of the box" with the limitations of google navigation, but it can work perfectly fine with a good software. Don't blame this device (or any other one) for the shortcomings of google navigation and some other software.
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I agree that the samsung S wifi's GPS capabilities are not very useful "out of the box" with the limitations of google navigation, but it can work perfectly fine with a good software. Don't blame this device (or any other one) for the shortcomings of google navigation and some other software.
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The software is definitely an issue. The SGP i got for christmas couldn't utilize its GPS at all. Regardless of what app tried to use GPS location services, i always got a location error (E.G. Location unavailable at this time.) After doing a little searching, i found that someone had an app that fixed a similar problem. I downloaded "GPS Status & Toolbox" and let it run. Its primary use is a compass and getting information about location, but after i opened it and let it download GPS configuration information, everything worked perfectly. Maps showed where i was, Facebook gave me nearby locations and so on.
Dont know if everyone figured this out already or not, but after reading over most of the thread, i didn't see a definitive solution. Just thought I'd share what i had found.
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The GPS technology works perfectly fine without data connection. To speed up the first fix, aGPS was developped and uses a data connection when available, but data connection is not mandatory. It's what is used in most if not all smartphones (search for "assisted gps" in wikipedia).
Data connection are required by some navigation software because they need to download the maps or for some obscure reasons. It's the case with google navigation for example.
But you can use a software that doesn't require data connection and store all its map on the device and only uses the GPS signal to do the fix, as gotok pointed out correctly. An android device with a good navigation software is no different than what you call a "true gps like tomtom".
I think you just don't make the difference between GPS (the technology) and navigation software.
I agree that the samsung S wifi's GPS capabilities are not very useful "out of the box" with the limitations of google navigation, but it can work perfectly fine with a good software. Don't blame this device (or any other one) for the shortcomings of google navigation and some other software.
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Data connection is never "mandatory" but with some GPS chipsets, it effectively is.
Some chipsets are so crippled they are almost never able to get a lock without assistance.
See the original GalaxyS phones as one example.
The Infuse is improved but not much better.
The Galaxy S II is VERY good at standalone operation.
Galaxy Players - ???, no clue
The GPS works fine, without wifi, on the Galaxy Player 5.0. To test it, get GPS Test (free). Of all the devices I have ever had with GPS (including Nokia phones, LG Android and HTC phones, Garmin) the GPS is the fastest I have experienced. Locks indoors and on moving trains very fast.
I use CoPilot mapping and navigation program and it works great.
I use "Mapdroid" (Free) and "Navdroid" (purchased) and both work great as stand-alone apps. The maps are open source maps and can be had for pretty much anywhere in the world.
Just like a real stand-alone GPSr the accuracy and speed of start up depends on a clear view of the sky, enough time to builds it's almanac of Sats and how far you are from the location you last accessed the app ( moving great distances between uses is almost the same as being turned on for the first time). The same can be said if too much time has gone by between use (such as months).
The Sat almanac gets built when your gpsr is turned on for the first time and is used as a predictive way identifying which Sats should be overhead at the current time you turn your GPSr on. Four or more Sataltites locked in gives you a higher degree of accuracy.
John
Hi,
I'm just wondering why my GPS doesn't work without internet connection. It just can't connect to any sattelite. I'm currently using PFGPS v2.0 FIX for my country (Poland) and I don't see any changes. What is wrong?
It requires Internet to load the maps
Can I load maps now to use GPS without internet connection if I'm not in wifi area?
Brajano95 said:
Can I load maps now to use GPS without internet connection if I'm not in wifi area?
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how can you load maps without internet connection ??
I'm at home now so I can do it cause I have wifi here :/
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I'm at home now so I can do it cause I have wifi here :/
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so you have wifi that means you are connected to the internet!!!
for GPS it can only find your position but can't display your location on a map without an internet connection so GPS needs one.
I will wait for answer from another person. Thank you.
There is an application on the market(related to sports/tracking) that allows you to download a portion of a map and then you can use your GPS offline(no data connection). When I get home I will look for it(I have it on my tablet).
Correct me if I am wrong but Brajano95 means that is it possible to load the maps on his wifi connection and keep then saved when he is out and about to allow the gps to connect. You used to be able to do this in the google labs section on google maps but they've since taken it away unless you look for an older version. Otherwise have a look for third party map app on the android market which allows downloading of map data to the phone
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Correct me if I am wrong but Brajano95 means that is it possible to load the maps on his wifi connection and keep then saved when he is out and about to allow the gps to connect. You used to be able to do this in the google labs section on google maps but they've since taken it away unless you look for an older version. Otherwise have a look for third party map app on the android market which allows downloading of map data to the phone
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Thats exactly what I'm talking about! Now I'm downloading Sygic Aura (about 550 mb) and will test it later.
Because GPS and Maps on CM7 suck balls at best. Maps is using your I.P. for the GPS coordinates when on WIFI, without it Maps is counting on a reliable signal from your GPS; and that's just not going to happen with CM7.
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You can use iGo My Way
I know a fair bit about the GPS module in the Ace so i will comment. I think someone has already told you that it is possible to operate the Ace with preloaded maps. Likewise, i thought that the OP's choice of Sygic Navigation is a fair one.
Back to the original question in the title. GPS can operate with or without internet be it wifi or data e.g. 3G/2G. The difference is how fast you can obtain a GPS lock. Without using any positioning help from data connectivity, you are looking at a lock time of possibly 15 minutes thereabout.
There are 4 modes of operation possible for the GPS module in the Ace which is actually Qualcomm's GpsONE.
1.) Standalone (Slowest using positioning information in cache and smart polling)
2.) MS-Based (Sends data to nearby cell tower(s) and makes use of GPS transceivers in the cell tower(s)
3.) MS-Assisted (Similar to MS-Based BUT data connectivity is broken when GPS transceiver is online. I don't quite like that!)
4.) MS-Based/Hybrid (You need to have superb data connectivity probably cell tower signal strength should be in the -50dBm region. Not very useful in real life usage)
i have had my own thread for fixing GPS, so read up if you want to know more here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320626
first you need the maps to use it offline, and the correct gps.conf for your location http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284506, then you can use it without internet
Mapdroyd is a great app that allows you to download maps for offline use. Unfortunately there isn't offline navigation though..
Hi,
I've solved my problem, just install Sygic! Thanks for helping guys
btw u dont need too install anything.. go to google labs inside maps and add map cache.. now long press a location on map.. click the arrow on the address and u ll see an option to cache that area.. the steps may not be accurate as i tried it a long time back and dont have my phone with me but its possible and what u have to do will be more or less the same...
Is gps a real gps or actually a-gps? Seems all tablet and phone want to confuse people this.
The GPS on Galaxy Player is a real GPS and it is pretty accurate. However, you need to find an app that DO NOT use data connection. May apps require you to have a data connection and it will give you an impression that the GPS is not working.
People have been talking about this in this thread.
truelies1 said:
Is gps a real gps or actually a-gps? Seems all tablet and phone want to confuse people this.
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Technically it is not a GPS... It is an aided GPS through the use of cell phone towers, so yes A GPS. It is very accurate though. Use Navfree if you want the use of offline maps. No internet connection is required once you install the maps. Hope this helps.
Yes it has Both..
AGPS when you have WiFi connection can be achieved.. much faster fix.
Once you had already acquired this and had initial fix, it's much faster to have a GPS fix for days..
use app like "gps status" free from market.
Note: It uses Satellites so its more easier to have a fix when you're outside and have a clear sky.
Two apps that come to mind for offline map is Map Doyd and Nav Droyd.
In map droyd the maps are free but Navdroyd will cost you a small onetime fee.
John
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Technically it is not a GPS... It is an aided GPS through the use of cell phone towers, so yes A GPS. It is very accurate though. Use Navfree if you want the use of offline maps. No internet connection is required once you install the maps. Hope this helps.
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It can receive assistance from the network, but unlike many AGPS solutions, it does fairly well when operating standalone. It CAN lock fairly quickly when standalone, the only other devices I have that lock as well standalone are my Tab 10.1 and my GS2. (Original GalaxyS devices and the Infuse have GPS receivers that perform horribly without assistance.)
dunca123 said:
Technically it is not a GPS... It is an aided GPS through the use of cell phone towers, so yes A GPS. It is very accurate though. Use Navfree if you want the use of offline maps. No internet connection is required once you install the maps. Hope this helps.
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No phone function in YP-G70, so not A-GPS obviously. Don't you need data connection in Navfree to enter address even you have offline map?
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