It looks like Motorola has officially updated the device. I found it about 2 hours ago when I was on the road. To my surprise, there is still no thread on this that I noticed.
Hopefully, we can get some info on this update as it pertains to those who either root or unlock. I don't have the information but hopefully, someone will brave it and attempt to get it. Such questions that I would like to see answered include:
- Do you lose root after the update?
- If you lose root, does the dock root method still work? Does the dockless method still work?
- If you installed bootstrapped or unlocked recovery, does this update cause any problems? Are backups made before the OTA still good to use after?
Well, for those of us who are dock rooted, or at least for me, I can say that the update goes seemingly through the entire process and then it comes back and says that the update failed. I check for updates and it is there again asking me to try. Not sure what's up.
This is new and exciting.
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Root is lost with update
My phone updated yesterday and I lost my root. I will try the photon root method again to see if I regain root. I will keep you all posted.
if im not mistaken this is the ota.. on which i can confirm that afterwards you can root again. its just like any other phone tho updating will kill root
Well it will not update for me. "Update failed" every time. I am dock rooted and installed boot strap recovery (CWM). Any suggestions?
enigmatl said:
It looks like Motorola has officially updated the device. I found it about 2 hours ago when I was on the road. To my surprise, there is still no thread on this that I noticed.
Hopefully, we can get some info on this update as it pertains to those who either root or unlock. I don't have the information but hopefully, someone will brave it and attempt to get it. Such questions that I would like to see answered include:
- Do you lose root after the update?
- If you lose root, does the dock root method still work? Does the dockless method still work?
- If you installed bootstrapped or unlocked recovery, does this update cause any problems? Are backups made before the OTA still good to use after?
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EDIt: Nvm this is old news bud. Posts everywhere
-DJ
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Lost my root torpedo version
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Re-root after update confirmed
I just re-rooted my phone using the dockless photon.tar method and regained root without any problems.
enigmatl said:
It looks like Motorola has officially updated the device. I found it about 2 hours ago when I was on the road. To my surprise, there is still no thread on this that I noticed.
Hopefully, we can get some info on this update as it pertains to those who either root or unlock. I don't have the information but hopefully, someone will brave it and attempt to get it. Such questions that I would like to see answered include:
- Do you lose root after the update?
- If you lose root, does the dock root method still work? Does the dockless method still work?
- If you installed bootstrapped or unlocked recovery, does this update cause any problems? Are backups made before the OTA still good to use after?
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Welcome to last week!!! j/k. I am glad that you finally found out about the official update. FYI there were tons of threads about ppl receiving the official update. It may not have been on the XDA sites but some of the other fan sites like androidforums, sprint users all posted that the official release was out since last tues, 8/23.
Yes you do lose root but you can just re-root it to get it back. Just do the dockless root. It is wayyyy easier since you don't have to go to a website and dl the tar file.
enigmatl said:
It looks like Motorola has officially updated the device. I found it about 2 hours ago when I was on the road. To my surprise, there is still no thread on this that I noticed.
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When you're looking for old news, you need to look at more than the last few threads.
I heard that Sprint is coming out with their first 4g device soon.... the Evo 4g.
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Okay. Some people are in serious need of a freakin CHILL PILL.
I got my notice of an update a few hours ago. I came here thinking XDA was the place, the hub for this kind of stuff. I checked like the first 20 threads and there was nothing. Neither I nor most other people are going to go through dozens of pages to look for info on this especially when as I typed the subject, XDA's search returned NOTHING.
And a note to the mods, there have been a lot of unfriendly BS answers to very good questions as of late. If a blind eye is turned to it over and over, it is gonna cost XDA it's title in the minds of many that this is THE place for information on the devices that it covers.
So enough of the unfriendly sarcastic BS answers. There's no need for crappy answers like welcome to last week especially when such a post doesn't come with a link.
That said, I will try this one more time. When I try to install the update, it always says update fails. I rooted with the dock method and installed the bootstrap recovery. Does anybody know what could be causing this to happen?
If you are having problems then flash this.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202666
Final build courtesy of the fine folks at MOTOROLA 8/11/11 The sarcasm was in fun. But on your end just think of how annoying it is when this happens on a daily basis. Take a couple of minutes to look through development and see all the crap people have posted. You'll see how cluttered it can get. We do appreciate that you meant well.
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Okay. Some people are in serious need of a freakin CHILL PILL.
I got my notice of an update a few hours ago. I came here thinking XDA was the place, the hub for this kind of stuff. I checked like the first 20 threads and there was nothing. Neither I nor most other people are going to go through dozens of pages to look for info on this especially when as I typed the subject, XDA's search returned NOTHING.
And a note to the mods, there have been a lot of unfriendly BS answers to very good questions as of late. If a blind eye is turned to it over and over, it is gonna cost XDA it's title in the minds of many that this is THE place for information on the devices that it covers.
So enough of the unfriendly sarcastic BS answers. There's no need for crappy answers like welcome to last week especially when such a post doesn't come with a link.
That said, I will try this one more time. When I try to install the update, it always says update fails. I rooted with the dock method and installed the bootstrap recovery. Does anybody know what could be causing this to happen?
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Maybe the difference is the bootstrap recovery installation. I rooted with the docking method but didnt install a bootstrap recovery. The OTA update went perfect today. Maybe it succeeded because i didnt have the bootstrap recovery installed? A possibility?
If you have updated webtop (dockless connection), your OTA update may fail. Replace the files with your original webtop files and the OTA update should work.
OTA update speeded up my photon
My photon is opening apps, emails, and web pages 50% to 100% faster after running the OTA update.
Holy smoking photons! My phone is BLAZING fast, google maps and navigation are nearly instantaneous, YELP populates in 1 second!!!
Isn't this just the leak from 8/11/11?
I don't understand the big deal, or why an OTA update of a leaked rom two weeks ago is being talked about in the development board?
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Well it will not update for me. "Update failed" every time. I am dock rooted and installed boot strap recovery (CWM). Any suggestions?
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Did you uninstall any system apps after rooting? If so, those will need to be restored.
When you try the update how far does it get? If the phone reboots and gets to the Android guy with the progress bar just press and hold both volume buttons at same time and it will show you the error message.
My Phone was Rooted using the Dock Method... installed the update without any issue and Re-Root it using the Dock method again. Everything still runs like a charm.
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Hi everyone. I got an X2 a few months ago and it has Android 2.2.2 installed. I used gingerbreak to gain root access and then froze all the extra bloat with Bloatfreezer. This morning I woke up to a message about an update to 2.3. I have a few questions about this..
Do I have to?
Can I use gingerbreak after the update and redressed all of the bloat?
I've been wanting to try one of the custom roms floating around on here but I just haven't had the time to do it. Is the update going to ruin my chance to do that for a while?
One last note, I have used this site in the past to help root my D1, but I still don't really know what is happening on my phone when I root/flash roms/etc. I know its unlikely that someone could teach a whole programming lesson on here, but a sticky for people new to it explaining what is actually happening would be a great help.
Sorry for the long post, thanks for the help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193818
I asked mr clown to add this to the roll up sticky I don't think he got around to it yet, if you follow these directions you will have rooted 2.3.3, there is no gingerbreak app that works on this update, you MUST follow these directions to get root on gingerbread.
Edit: you do not HAVE to update, and I can't answer your other questions without some serious talking out my @$$
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Thanks for a quick reply. I'd rather stay where I'm at right now but it told me on the popup message that I had an hour until it would update. Do I have to postpone every hour now to avoid update?
About 30 posts down this list is one titled 'how to stop autoupdate' its got ways there
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I accidentally updated. I had the phone turned sideways and rotated and then pushed the update later button but after it rotated it was actually the update now button. I decided to let it play out, but after all is said and done, I still have the super user icon on my phone. None of the apps which require root will function but I do have the super user icon present.
Is that just a glitch?
Will it still root properly?
Is there another way to check for root access?
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I accidentally updated. I had the phone turned sideways and rotated and then pushed the update later button but after it rotated it was actually the update now button. I decided to let it play out, but after all is said and done, I still have the super user icon on my phone. None of the apps which require root will function but I do have the super user icon present.
Is that just a glitch?
Will it still root properly?
Is there another way to check for root access?
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Super user icon is stuck now, only way to root is to flash back to 2.2.2
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And you should definately do that in my opinion, carrying the superuser icon with NONE of the benefits of being rooted? No reason for that IMO You've rooted previously so you might as well go do this right, follow the step by step intstructions on sbfing back to froyo and hitting up P3s prerooted update file, and as for explaining the stuff how technical do you want it to get... the basic idea of rooting is that its giving you access to the "root" of your phones directories/controls kinda like an administrator on the computer, the flashing/sbfing is simply swapping one or more sets of your phones programing out for another,
their are a couple boring vids on youtube that can show you the ropes of what this development actually is if you can watch a couple times without falling asleep
Yep, you have su apk, but it's not going to work.
You're going to have to sbf back to 2.2 and do the ginger break, etc process to get 2.3 rooted on your phone.
Thanks for the responses. I think I'll give this a go tomorrow. To be clear though, now that there is an sbf, there is no real danger of permanently killing the phone right? Hopefully I wont need it, but it helps knowing that I can't completely screw things up.
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To be clear though, now that there is an sbf, there is no real danger of permanently killing the phone right?
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There is always a chance that you will be the first person to hard brick your phone, but if you soft brick yeah you can sbf back. Like I said if you hard brick you'd be the first person on these forums to do it
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I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
Saw this today,
http://www.androidauthority.com/how...android-2-3-4-gingerbread-in-one-click-36933/
Bottom of article states you can install custom ROM's
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at the bottom of the page it sources
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346729
which is temp root, who ever read that prbly didnt know the difference lol
ah, thank you.
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Marine6680 said:
I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
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I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
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Their twitter conversations have a youtube video showing root, have not watched it yet.
The title says Resound gets permanent root.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
If they can release a perm root solution that is safe with S-On, I'll take it. That's all I want right now, and I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy with it for now as well.
Good luck.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
jbh00jh said:
The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
Would it be greedy of me to ask for a $5 donation from 500 people?
I really want this set of rims for Christmas.
Am I asking for too much?
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He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
Speaking of money...anyone willing to organize and spearhead donations to the developer or group that achieves s-off?
I know this was done on other phones where people pledged $x amount of money.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
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Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
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Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
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Pretty much. I wouldn't be asking anyone for a dime period let alone prior to providing a full disclosure of the methods used to obtain root status.
Just like everyone else....I'll believe it when I see it.
Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen.
I'll pitch in a few bucks for that... I'll throw a few more for S=Off.
First time since the G1 that I had a device before root was achieved. I wanted to take advantage of the penny sale at Verizon is why I picked it up now. I would have gotten a galaxy s 2 had Verizon offered one. Oh well, every HTC so far has been broken eventually. I hope we don't have to wait too long though.
There was already a donation thread started somewhere I believe. But Evil was the only verbal dev working on root/s-off and said he didn't want money.
Marine6680 said:
Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen..
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This is dangerous. If something happens to /system you're screwed because without recovery it can't be..... well recovered.
There is already a temp root method that you can use to kill the bloat. Outside of that root doesn't really provide you with any other abilities except maybe to steal wifi tethering without subscribing.
Without s off you wont be able to overclock, flash custom Roms or alternate radios....so why do people think they need to have perm root without s-off?
There are plenty other things you can do with Root without S-Off.
THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
con247 said:
I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
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Yeah no kidding. I doubt Verizon would let it push thru too. Ahh well. We'll just have to wait for it the old fashion way
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UPDATED 3/25/2012
Talk Android, in the article below, mistakenly stated the update was for the X2 was live. Turns out not to be true.
http://www.talkandroid.com/99664-droid-x2-minor-update-1-3-418-is-now-live/#.T2HsKEGxFI4
I'm so avoiding this. Anyone else that decides to be brave and apply it, let us know the following:
Can you root with Zergrush
Can you SBF back to 2.3.4 without bricking your phone
Just for S and Gs, see if the bootloader is unlocked. I doubt it, but maybe a dev did something stupid? If so, save that update!
Thanks iBolski. (Or should I say Mr Ambassador )
If anyone has a phone info screen shot, that would be nice to see.
Also confirmation that VooDoo works?
Thats all the update brings? Why bother?
I am (just) thinking the kernel will be better for my Mx2 "Nandroid port".
jsgraphicart said:
Thats all the update brings? Why bother?
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Exactly. I've tweeted to both Verizon and Motorola that I'm done with both of them. I'm looking for a new carrier and a new phone.
Verizon is reaching out right now asking why I'm so unhappy. Do I really have to answer that question? Give me a break!
iBolski said:
Per Talk Android, the X2 minor update is available.
http://www.talkandroid.com/99664-droid-x2-minor-update-1-3-418-is-now-live/#.T2HsKEGxFI4
I'm so avoiding this. Anyone else that decides to be brave and apply it, let us know the following:
Can you root with Zergrush
Can you SBF back to 2.3.4 without bricking your phone
Just for S and Gs, see if the bootloader is unlocked. I doubt it, but maybe a dev did something stupid? If so, save that update!
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One question. DID ANYONE get the Soak???
If not, is this "really" what Moto was soak testing? What if it means... (gasp!)??
Edit: I don't think it is live yet, iBolski. Verizon's webpage still says "Coming Soon", like I'm supposed to be happy. I think the article is misguided... Did any brave soldier get the update and then apply it?
litetaker said:
One question. DID ANYONE get the Soak???
If not, is this "really" what Moto was soak testing? What if it means... (gasp!)??
Edit: I don't think it is live yet, iBolski. Verizon's webpage still says "Coming Soon", like I'm supposed to be happy. I think the article is misguided... Did any brave soldier get the update and then apply it?
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I am signed up for the soak and I have not received it yet. I also tried to force the update to my phone just now and it is not pushing it.
I am going to be brave on this one because I have a back up phone I can fall on if anything does go wrong, but I am pretty much ready to just drop my DX2 like our Ambassador and just use something else until my upgrade....
I will let everyone know as soon as I get the email for the soak or if I can update to this at some point today...
Security update! I do not trust those bastards. I hope someone tries it so we know but I don't wish anyone to get stuck without root or able to sbf. Need a normal user that does not care about these things. I will not get close to it before we find out what it does.
gaad0701 said:
I am signed up for the soak and I have not received it yet. I also tried to force the update to my phone just now and it is not pushing it.
I am going to be brave on this one because I have a back up phone I can fall on if anything does go wrong, but I am pretty much ready to just drop my DX2 like our Ambassador and just use something else until my upgrade....
I will let everyone know as soon as I get the email for the soak or if I can update to this at some point today...
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If/when you get it, check also just in case some dev made a "mistake" and left the kernel unlocked. Would be nice.
iBolski said:
If/when you get it, check also just in case some dev made a "mistake" and left the kernel unlocked. Would be nice.
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I am no dev, can you walk me through how to do that? I am willing to try anything but I do not know how to do that off the top of my head.
gaad0701 said:
I am no dev, can you walk me through how to do that? I am willing to try anything but I do not know how to do that off the top of my head.
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do you have the Android SDK on your computer? if you do just go into the folder where it's stored:
if windows C:/SDK (i believe)
if Linux /home/yourname/android-sdk-linux
it should have fastboot within there, but i'm bad at explanations, so iBolski'll walk you through it better than I can.
gaad0701 said:
I am no dev, can you walk me through how to do that? I am willing to try anything but I do not know how to do that off the top of my head.
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From what I understand, you do the following, but back everything up to your external SD card first (do a nandroid) and you must have the Motorola USB drivers and Android SDK installed. Of course, since you've been flashing and SBFing, you definitely have those already installed:
Have your phone hooked up to your PC and type "ADB REBOOT BOOTLOADER"
The phone should reboot into the bootloader saying "Starting Fastboot Protocol Support"
When it's rebooted into the bootloader, type this in your DOS command window: "fastboot eom unlock"
Read the warnings. This WILL reformat your phone so be sure you've backed it up.
Tap Volume Down to switch to "Accept"
Now press Volume Up to actually "accept" the warning.
After that, you should be unlocked and formatted IF the bootloader and kernel were unlocked.
I could be wrong, but that's what I've read before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
the thread w/ 1/3 of a mil hits!
IT'S all about the last 2 pics in the op.
skwoodwiva said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
the thread w/ 1/3 of a mil hits!
IT'S all about the last 2 pics in the op.
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iBolski said:
From what I understand, you do the following, but back everything up to your external SD card first (do a nandroid) and you must have the Motorola USB drivers and Android SDK installed. Of course, since you've been flashing and SBFing, you definitely have those already installed:
Have your phone hooked up to your PC and type "ADB REBOOT BOOTLOADER"
The phone should reboot into the bootloader saying "Starting Fastboot Protocol Support"
When it's rebooted into the bootloader, type this in your DOS command window: "fastboot eom unlock"
Read the warnings. This WILL reformat your phone so be sure you've backed it up.
Tap Volume Down to switch to "Accept"
Now press Volume Up to actually "accept" the warning.
After that, you should be unlocked and formatted IF the bootloader and kernel were unlocked.
I could be wrong, but that's what I've read before.
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Good deal, I can do that for sure. I will make sure to update everyone as soon as anything comes through.
I won't be able to do any of the testing until I get home from work (roughly 6:30 central time) but I will keep trying to update throughout the day.
Thanks guys.
No updates have started to roll out yet....
Tapin' the Talk on the xSquared
gaad0701 said:
Good deal, I can do that for sure. I will make sure to update everyone as soon as anything comes through.
I won't be able to do any of the testing until I get home from work (roughly 6:30 central time) but I will keep trying to update throughout the day.
Thanks guys.
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Still no update, nothing to report tonight probably. Hopefully I get something tomorrow so I have something to do at work...
Sent from my DROID X2
For those of you considering doing the update, you might want to take a look at these two threads on RootzWiki: rooted before update and important information regarding .621 update (I'm sure there are XDA equivalents of this by now, but these are two threads I'd been following previously for my brother's DX.)
Apparently using OTA rootkeeper (and ADB in some cases) it should be possible to keep root after the sbf *IF* you have SU backed up on /system/! SU cannot (CAN NOT) be restored from the SD card. Of course, any SBF/factory restore will lose SU and you'll be SOL until that gets sorted. Another problem (for us) is that we do not yet have an SBF file for this, so if anything goes awry, you could (potentially, not necessarily) be looking at a nice expensive paper weight until the SBF gets leaked.
This was also mentioned in the DX information thread, but if anyone is brave enough to update from rooted stock (using OTA Rootkeeper) and could get a nandroid, it could potentially be useful for anyone in the know (read: devs) to see what has changed in the update, so that we can examine alternative root methods. Unfortunately, most devs have moved onto newer/better phones so this may take a bit, but there is still a lot of dev for the DX (and the dx2 of course) so hopefully we can get something going (and presumably any exploit found on either phone should hopefully be useful for the other.)
Hey ibolski if VZW is reaching out it's a good thing.. Even if nothing is going to change in terms of their policy. Take the opportunity to reach out to them and let them know how we feel. Perhaps they can understand or at least listen to how HTC customers can feel better about unlocked bootloaders.
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coolpoete said:
Hey ibolski if VZW is reaching out it's a good thing.. Even if nothing is going to change in terms of their policy. Take the opportunity to reach out to them and let them know how we feel. Perhaps they can understand or at least listen to how HTC customers can feel better about unlocked bootloaders.
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I've tried. After I started doing that, the replies via twitter stopped. Figures.
listen I'm not saying anything, but just mentioning: I just tried to root my dad's Droid 2 Global and bricked it because the D2G got a "security update" around a week ago that kills root (Duh) and if you try to sbf back down it causes the phone to hard brick.
Now that may not be the case with this- who knows, that particular update went from 2.3.3 to to 2.3.4 and obv this one probably isn't going to update the kernel/bootloader/god knows but even still I find the closeness in time for these two OTAs suspicious, so be careful my flashaholic friends
I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!
nived09 said:
I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!
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I can almost guarantee you that the OTA will be installed on it and you will not be able to do anything with it until an exploit is found.
The root and S-off process is very easy if you are on the old firmware.
Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?
nived09 said:
Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?
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Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.
nived09 said:
Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.
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Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.
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Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.
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Got a few -new in box cause I convinced a few retarded reps referbs were the issue- from Verizon n one from amazon. All 2.04
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Yea, I just got it an hour or so ago and booted right into the loader and asked in the IRC and I guess the OTA
was already accepted, so I'm sol for a bit.
Not even going to bother activating it, since I mainly use root for tethering.
I picked up the DNA in San Diego from BB for an upgrade on Verizon. It came with Software 1.15.605.4 710RD. I've s-off'd, root'd & TWRP'd with ease. Now I just need CM10.1 and I'll be happy.
I might fly to France and b-slap the CEO of the company who put the DCMA in.
Alright so new member here i have been using XDA to unlock and flash zip,kernals etc in android devices since 4 years.. i would like to thank this site :good:
Now straight to my point
Okay so I bought a Photon 4g 2 weeks ago and my bad luck its on 2.3.5 (I dont know if its factory 2.3.5 or OTA because i bought it from a friend who knows nothing about it) which means its bootlaoder is locked for good.. I did the ReservedOdm check and got "30000000000030003000100000000" which means =Electrify who performed OTA update to 2.3.5 and now stuck never unlocked) As the thread says.
Moreover I saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072644 by @nickman529 and I was really shocked to see that a 45 pages thread with skilled people couldnt unlock the 2.3.5 version of MoPhon. (I did not read the whole thread but i guess you guys couldnt found a solution) So my question is still in 2014 there's no method to unlock this beastly phone? an updated android OS is a must for this phone. We should do something as there are hundreds of people still waiting for XDA guys to come up with a solution.
I am not a newbie in this developing thing nor I am a developer I know In's and outs of unlocking etc.
I would really appreciate if XDA skilled guys will work on this again atleast we can do something? unlocking a bootloader of a phone is not impossible right? just that we need to work again on this. I want to get this done. Thank You :good:
Some details of my phone:
I flashed superuser with "Photon Torpedo Direct" method so I have root enabled
Build: 4.5.1A-1 SUN254_13
2.3.5
Hope I will get some replies as this is my first thread on XDA
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whizinc said:
Alright so new member here i have been using XDA to unlock and flash zip,kernals etc in android devices since 4 years.. i would like to thank this site :good:
Now straight to my point
Okay so I bought a Photon 4g 2 weeks ago and my bad luck its on 2.3.5 (I dont know if its factory 2.3.5 or OTA because i bought it from a friend who knows nothing about it) which means its bootlaoder is locked for good.. I did the ReservedOdm check and got "30000000000030003000100000000" which means =Electrify who performed OTA update to 2.3.5 and now stuck never unlocked) As the thread says.
Moreover I saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072644 by @nickman529 and I was really shocked to see that a 45 pages thread with skilled people couldnt unlock the 2.3.5 version of MoPhon. (I did not read the whole thread but i guess you guys couldnt found a solution) So my question is still in 2014 there's no method to unlock this beastly phone? an updated android OS is a must for this phone. We should do something as there are hundreds of people still waiting for XDA guys to come up with a solution.
I am not a newbie in this developing thing nor I am a developer I know In's and outs of unlocking etc.
I would really appreciate if XDA skilled guys will work on this again atleast we can do something? unlocking a bootloader of a phone is not impossible right? just that we need to work again on this. I want to get this done. Thank You :good:
Some details of my phone:
I flashed superuser with "Photon Torpedo Direct" method so I have root enabled
Build: 4.5.1A-1 SUN254_13
2.3.5
Hope I will get some replies as this is my first thread on XDA
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i've same problem and it will be good to resolve this issue by xda devs... this is really good phone and is sorrowful to see how this topic stayed inattentive
ultimo123 said:
i've same problem and it will be good to resolve this issue by xda devs... this is really good phone and is sorrowful to see how this topic stayed inattentive
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yeah i think the Skilled XDA guys just gave up on this phone and its a shame that these skilled guys couldnt figure out a way to unlock this MoPhon atleast we can start work on this again COME ON Guys! the thread is being inactive please show some humanity.
Maybe it will be solved by developers sooon .. They could be working on it .. will be a way to get rid of this problem ..
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Maybe it will be solved by developers sooon .. They could be working on it .. will be a way to get rid of this problem ..
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i am afraid to tell you brother but there is no development under process of photon 4g the people on 2.3.5 are locked for good and its a misery for the developers too that they couldnt unlock it.. A replacement of another new model will be the only way to use new android versions lol :good:
check out Motorolla Moto G it has official upgrade of kitkat its affordable too :good:
photon
.. I've photon 2.3.5 and locked for sure.. hoping on dev to get a way out there..
come on guys I've got a few posts on here over the years about this lol I have a new account here since so I don't know where all those posts are.
sadly I have no clue what I did or how the heck I did it!
I bought the photon the day after it came out and used it for quite a while on sprint. I received the ota update to 2.3.5.
then when my contract expired I spent hours and hours and finally rooted and unlocked my phone and put it on straight talk. it was on the ota update so I was told I wouldn't be able to do it but somehow I did.
more recently I have a new issue with mine which is why I am back on here again but I am very disappointed I never had the chance to figure out how I did it.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
boxorandyos said:
come on guys I've got a few posts on here over the years about this lol I have a new account here since so I don't know where all those posts are.
sadly I have no clue what I did or how the heck I did it!
I bought the photon the day after it came out and used it for quite a while on sprint. I received the ota update to 2.3.5.
then when my contract expired I spent hours and hours and finally rooted and unlocked my phone and put it on straight talk. it was on the ota update so I was told I wouldn't be able to do it but somehow I did.
more recently I have a new issue with mine which is why I am back on here again but I am very disappointed I never had the chance to figure out how I did it.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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brother we are talking about the bootloader unlock of photon 4g devices on 2.3.5 please clear that did you unlocked the bootloader or just unlocked your phone?? and whats your the problem you are facing now? let me know. I can help
I can't guarantee but I figured what I did would be called unlocking the bootloader. I do know I received the ota update as I remember having trouble with the phone after doing it so I was on 2.3.5 for sure. I do not remember what I did when unlocking it but it was completely factory plus the ota when I started and by the time I was done I had root access and I was running cm7 and I could put in my straight talk sim card and I had talk, text, mms, and data. that would be an unlocked bootloader if I'm right?
what I'm facing now is I get a message saying something about the modem did not start when ever I try turning the phone on.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
boxorandyos said:
I can't guarantee but I figured what I did would be called unlocking the bootloader. I do know I received the ota update as I remember having trouble with the phone after doing it so I was on 2.3.5 for sure. I do not remember what I did when unlocking it but it was completely factory plus the ota when I started and by the time I was done I had root access and I was running cm7 and I could put in my straight talk sim card and I had talk, text, mms, and data. that would be an unlocked bootloader if I'm right?
what I'm facing now is I get a message saying something about the modem did not start when ever I try turning the phone on.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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if you have your photon with you right now then take a look at its bootloader open it and it must say UNLOCKED if not then your bootloader is still locked..
so the modem error comes and the mobile doesn't works?? I think its a hardware problem as far as i know
yea it does say unlocked in the corner of the bootloader screen.
I got the error when I tried flashing an update to my ROM. I don't know whether it flashed something that did that our if it was just coincidence that something went wrong with the hardware at the same time. I tried flashing it back to the old version and that did not fix the problem.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
boxorandyos said:
yea it does say unlocked in the corner of the bootloader screen.
I got the error when I tried flashing an update to my ROM. I don't know whether it flashed something that did that our if it was just coincidence that something went wrong with the hardware at the same time. I tried flashing it back to the old version and that did not fix the problem.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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what really? it says unlocked that it means the bootloader is unlocked how the hell did you unlocked your bootloader on 2.3.5? you have to remember it brother?
I honestly have no clue this was only like the third phone I ever unlocked and I've done dozens since. this was back right after the ota came out.
all I remember is I spent days and days trying to figure it out. if I had another phone I might work on it again as that's a really nice phone but I don't really expect to ever land on one of them again.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
boxorandyos said:
I honestly have no clue this was only like the third phone I ever unlocked and I've done dozens since. this was back right after the ota came out.
all I remember is I spent days and days trying to figure it out. if I had another phone I might work on it again as that's a really nice phone but I don't really expect to ever land on one of them again.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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I have an OTA-locked one that's fairly cosmetically beat up. New replacement battery. USB port cracked off just enough that normal USB cables work but car dock does not. Otherwise I *think* it's fine - I gave up on peetr's decrapped stock ROM, which is good I gotta say, and bought an unlocked one on eBay.
I'd give it to you free but I am literally sweating out my rent check. Would you be willing to part with $25 for it, includes shipping?
A friend brought me a photon of his he is wanting to use with straight talk Sim , It is on 2.3.5 ota I believe but don't know . Have tried to unlock the boot loader but keep getting (FAILED (remote: (00180001))) when I try to get the unlock key. It has root but does not register the straight talk Sim and I felt unlocking the boot loader would help me fix this issue but am finding I can't .can anyone help am open to any suggestions. Pls know though I am still learning how to use the adb, fastboot, and know little about rsd (can't get it to even pick up the phone)
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I have an OTA-locked one that's fairly cosmetically beat up. New replacement battery. USB port cracked off just enough that normal USB cables work but car dock does not. Otherwise I *think* it's fine - I gave up on peetr's decrapped stock ROM, which is good I gotta say, and bought an unlocked one on eBay.
I'd give it to you free but I am literally sweating out my rent check. Would you be willing to part with $25 for it, includes shipping?
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woops I must have missed this. I can do that as soon as I get some people to pay what they owe me. right now I am behind on some bills by quite a bit but I am hoping that will get taken care of shortly. do bug me about it and I'll do that.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
Hi guys, I'm new to ARM devices, but I have a lot linux experience and a fair amount of Android experience, as I've done some device porting work at android-x86.org.
I was recently given a photon 4G with a locked bootloader, 30000000000030003000100000000
My question is, what is so special about the bootloader that it can't be replaced by another bootloader. I was just looking at the thread to put Arch Linux on the Photon, but that thread seems to have stalled and I can not ask any questions there because I do not have 10 posts yet.
I am guessing the kernel image cannot be replaced with a locked bootloader? I read the post by peetr_ about SBF's & CG's & signatures, but when are the signatures checked, at flash time or every boot? I dd'd the boot partition to /tmp/boot.img and pulled it to my linux workstation but I've not been able to mount it. Mount thinks it's NTFS, is that what a .smg is? NTFS in some sort of container?
boxorandyos said:
woops I must have missed this. I can do that as soon as I get some people to pay what they owe me. right now I am behind on some bills by quite a bit but I am hoping that will get taken care of shortly. do bug me about it and I'll do that.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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Sure thing, I starred the notice of this in my email program and will get back on this thread next time I go thru my backlog if I haven't heard from you.
Funny how we're all in some way participating in all this work that manufacturers should've done, and a lot of us are broke.
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Hi guys, I'm new to ARM devices, but I have a lot linux experience and a fair amount of Android experience, as I've done some device porting work at android-x86.org.
I was recently given a photon 4G with a locked bootloader, 30000000000030003000100000000
My question is, what is so special about the bootloader that it can't be replaced by another bootloader. I was just looking at the thread to put Arch Linux on the Photon, but that thread seems to have stalled and I can not ask any questions there because I do not have 10 posts yet.
I am guessing the kernel image cannot be replaced with a locked bootloader? I read the post by peetr_ about SBF's & CG's & signatures, but when are the signatures checked, at flash time or every boot? I dd'd the boot partition to /tmp/boot.img and pulled it to my linux workstation but I've not been able to mount it. Mount thinks it's NTFS, is that what a .smg is? NTFS in some sort of container?
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Forgive me if I'm telling you stuff you already know, but here are a few random tidbits of info:
The OTA update blew a hardware fuse which somehow prevents bootloader unlock by any known methods
The only ROMs that can be flashed with the bootloader locked are ones using the stock kernel as-is, like peetr's ROM, so I think your guess about the kernel image becoming set in stone is correct.
Don't know anything else but I also have an OTA-locked one which I could run stuff on and get you output, if you want it, and an unlocked one (pre OTA update) running CM9. As long as it doesn't mess up my devices I could provide you with debug info.
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Sure thing, I starred the notice of this in my email program and will get back on this thread next time I go thru my backlog if I haven't heard from you.
Funny how we're all in some way participating in all this work that manufacturers should've done, and a lot of us are broke.
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I will try an remember to get back to you
there is one thing I was just thinking about that I do remember thinking about afterwards. whatever I did that made it work may have stemmed from what I later discovered was a corrupted file. I remember downloading file after file and trying to flash dozens of different files. every time I was getting all sorts of errors. suddenly tho I got a different error and after that when I would try throwing commands at the phone I would get completely different responses. my memory is very limited of it all but I thought I was completely screwed.
somehow tho I suddenly had a phone with the pre ota software on it.
whatever exactly it was that I messed up I have no clue without trying to re create the story.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
Hey guys. Nickman529 here. Sorry I haven't ever updated anything on that thread. I don't have the MoPho anymore but I'd be willing to start up development if someone would wanna send me one or donate the PayPal funds for such. I hear your cries.