[Q] Downgrading HBOOT S-OFF 1.01 to .43 - Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok I have an HTC Legend with HBoot 1.01 which is also S-OFF using an XTC Clip, my question, and the reason I want to do this is just to see if it can be done.. is I want to down grade it to the .43 HBoot, I have the file from an offical RUU (this is a bell legend btw and thats where I got the .43 file from) question is, can anyone think of a reason why this wont work?
I am not very concerned if I brick the phone since I dont use it anymore, this is just to see if it can be done.. I cannot think of any reasons why, with the S-OFF HBoot that I shouldnt be able to downgrade the HBoot.
Comments?
Thanks.

Ok never mind, I put AlphaRev's hboot on it and its working fine.

What u mean? U use alpharev with >1.00 ?

kakarot_22 said:
What u mean? U use alpharev with >1.00 ?
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He used a XTC clip to s-off hboot 1.01, and then flashed alpharev's hboot onto it.

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[Q] Returning to S-ON

Hi,
I have rooted HTC Legend with Alpharev S-OFF.
I want to return the phone to the carrier because I have a problem with the touch screen.
I understood that S-OFF cancels the warranty, but when I return to stock ROM (RUU_Legend_HTC_ISR_2.05.461.52_Radio_47.39.35.09_7.08.35.21_release_140015_signed.exe) the HBOOT remains Alpharev S-OFF.
Anyway to flash the original 0.43 HBOOT over it?
Thanks.
amoskas said:
Hi,
I have rooted HTC Legend with Alpharev S-OFF.
I want to return the phone to the carrier because I have a problem with the touch screen.
I understood that S-OFF cancels the warranty, but when I return to stock ROM (RUU_Legend_HTC_ISR_2.05.461.52_Radio_47.39.35.09_7.08.35.21_release_140015_signed.exe) the HBOOT remains Alpharev S-OFF.
Anyway to flash the original 0.43 HBOOT over it?
Thanks.
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since you have alpharev hboot now (1.00) you can't downgrade, you can however upgrade to 1.01, just download the latest ruu and try installing that
According to the warranty, any software update I make, which is not made by the carrier, revokes the warranty, so either way - having S-OFF HBOOT 1.0 or having S-ON HBOOT 1.01 (The option you gave) - I can't repair it through the carrier..
Thanks anyway
amoskas said:
According to the warranty, any software update I make, which is not made by the carrier, revokes the warranty, so either way - having S-OFF HBOOT 1.0 or having S-ON HBOOT 1.01 (The option you gave) - I can't repair it through the carrier..
Thanks anyway
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you can install the one i gave you so you have hboot 1.01 S-ON, and then you install the one of your carrier
should be possible
It will work, but the HBOOT will remain 1.01, and not 0.43.. So they will probably see that I did install a software on the phone.
amoskas said:
It will work, but the HBOOT will remain 1.01, and not 0.43.. So they will probably see that I did install a software on the phone.
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Since we can't downgrade our hboot, you are stuck on S-OFF alpharev (1.00) or on
S-ON hboot 1.01
If you are going to send in your phone do it with s-on, i bet they dont even look at the hboot version, but if they do you better have s-on
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

[Q] hboot 1.50 s-off!!!!!!!

i was on hboot 1.40 with a custom rom, then went back to stock and forgot the step to lock my bootloader. after all the stock rom updates im on hboot 1.50 with s-off. can i flash roms (kernels actually) without fastboot now?
evoRomz said:
i was on hboot 1.40 with a custom rom, then went back to stock and forgot the step to lock my bootloader. after all the stock rom updates im on hboot 1.50 with s-off. can i flash roms (kernels actually) without fastboot now?
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I believe so. You may even be able to downgrade to hboot 1.4 I believe.
Sent from my HTC Evo 3D using Tapatalk
How did u get s off on hboot 1.5.0
EVO 3d with Mikrunny
Mien651 said:
How did u get s off on hboot 1.5.0
EVO 3d with Mikrunny
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he had soff on hboot 1.4 and upgraded to hboot 1.5 after. which leaves you soff.
how do i apply hboot 1.4 with out downgrading my recovery back to stock? is there a way to keep everything im on now (newest htc update) but just downgrade to 1.4? regardless as long as i can flash now without fastboot, i have no problem keeping 1.5
evoRomz said:
how do i apply hboot 1.4 with out downgrading my recovery back to stock? is there a way to keep everything im on now (newest htc update) but just downgrade to 1.4? regardless as long as i can flash now without fastboot, i have no problem keeping 1.5
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I always hit the damn thanks button instead of the quote! You got a free thanks
Anyways, go this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192306 and download the SHIP 1.40 hboot (unless you want the ENG one, then download that). Follow the instructions in that post, and flash it. Just a simple PG86IMG.zip.
This guy did the same thing as you, and had success rolling back to 1.40. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17993045&postcount=97
Good luck.

a little help

I recently Upgraded got the HTC Evo 3D so i decided i was going to root the Phone. I notice going to Revolutionary the Hboot I have its not selected I have 1.50 I think I have updated software like a dummy through sprint OTA I seen their was and RUU file to downgrade back to 1.40 is it safe to do so.
Go here: LINK
Downgrade your HBoot and get back to 1.40.
Why don't you just root without downgrading?
iTzLOLtrain said:
Why don't you just root without downgrading?
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he is right....yuoi can root in hboot 1.5....you only need to go to hboot 1.4 if you want to obtain S-off rights.....
iTzLOLtrain said:
Why don't you just root without downgrading?
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After a while of having to use the flash image gui app, it gets pretty annoying not being able to use Nandroid backups. That is why i am trying to downgrade myself.
Makes sense. Then check out the link vdubtx posted.
I would like to have S-Off instead of s-On
wloftus said:
he is right....yuoi can root in hboot 1.5....you only need to go to hboot 1.4 if you want to obtain S-off rights.....
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You can root, but you also forfeit your warranty to HTC by doing HTC Unlock, that code that you use to unlock it, gives them your device info, including serial number and when you bring it to sprint for repair, they can just look it up and see that you've rooted and voided your warranty.
Any files will work what is the latest 1
none of the RUU working do I have to format my SD card and I am trying to downgrade back to 1.40 which RUU file is i am clueless please help thanks I want S-off
I notice i have 2.17.651.5 already I seen that in the file which RUU file I need to downgrade to HBoot 1.40 please _2.08.651.2 i rem seeing that before my phone got that OTA by mistake.

[Q] Evo 3D CDMA - HBOOT 1.50 S-OFF back to S-ON

I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
JDogHerman said:
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
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You can brick your device!
Forgive my ignorance, but if you are s-off, why would you want to do this? I thought 1.5 s-off was just as good as1.4 s-off.
Sent from my PG86100
When set at 1.5 you cant change the splash screen or radio. or other settings.
Also Bricking it is what I need to do to convert it to 1.4 BUT I cant to that until I have S-ON. Correct?
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
birddog_61 said:
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
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^Exactly this. If you read the first post of that thread (especially the gigantic red letters and what is under that), it will tell you to NOT brick an S-off phone as it will permanently brick it. You just need to flash the 1.4 bootloader.
birddog_61 said:
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
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i had the same problem as OP. i think the issue with 1.5 is even though its s-off, the bootloader is still locked and therefore a recovery cant be flashed and root cant be gained.
Ive been looking for the standalone hboot 1.4 ruu so i didnt have to do what op originally suggested
You have all of my thanks
alexjzim said:
i had the same problem as OP. i think the issue with 1.5 is even though its s-off, the bootloader is still locked and therefore a recovery cant be flashed and root cant be gained.
Ive been looking for the standalone hboot 1.4 ruu so i didnt have to do what op originally suggested
You have all of my thanks
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Ya I didn't even think about revolutionary only working with 1.4 or below that must be the problem. You are welcome for the help, I just figured most of this out about a week ago when I had to do the downgrade after unlocking with htc method.
I would fastboot oem lock then do HTC's unlock again.
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kiewee3 said:
I would fastboot oem lock then do HTC's unlock again.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
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You have to HTC Unlock the device first, then do the fastboot oem lock (if you don't it will say "Device was already locked!" message)
JDogHerman said:
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
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If you are S-OFF you can flash any bootloader you want...no need to go back to S-on....I found a few bootloader versions on here and flashed them back and forth when trying different roms.....once your S-OFF you should never return...lol
I was thinking of taking it to Sprint for a replacement cuz of 4G not working, but then I thought, WHEN ON EARTH do I use 4G??? LOL It's always off...

[Q]HELP HBOOt 1.53 S-OFF CANT FLASH ANY ROM

I have my EVO HBOOt 1.53 (JopunutBear) S-off stock 4.0 rom. Now when i flash jb or ics custom roms i get a bootlop.
What can i do?
So have i to downgrade to hboot 1.49? If yes how to do this.
Yes i tried severyl things like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172&page=10 [ bootloader doesnt find pg86img.zip]
and other s-off guides but nothing really works
Thanks for help
Are you putting the pg file in the root of your sdcard or in a separate file folder?
( Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
yes i put it in root. how big is the rigt pg file. i have one with about 324kb and one with about 300mb
luisniklas said:
yes i put it in root. how big is the rigt pg file. i have one with about 324kb and one with about 300mb
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That one with about 384 kB. Then, turn off your phone, turn it on in bootloader (volume down + power on). Wait a little and it will ask you to update. Press volume up, and wait. After that you have to delete that PG file from sd card. (that pg 300 MB has a rom on it..thats why it is so big)
Sent from my EVO 3D GSM, using XDA Premium
If the bootloader doesn't find the zip, make sure it's named PG86IMG.zip (capitalization as is) and make sure there is no double zip extension.
Here my BL. It Doesnt find the small PG file.
Does it something has to do with my JoupunutBear HBOOT 1.52.7777
Are there other ways to downgrade hboot with s-off?
Can i flash JoupunutBear HBOOT 1.49 from unlimited.io?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
If you can boot into your ROM then just check whether your phone is recognizing data on your sdcard. Sometimes after the wire trick sdcards tend to flip out. Your pc might be detecting it fine but the phone might not. Just humor me and try playing a song or something from the card just to rule out this possibility
Sent from my Evo 3D GSM
i will try this. is hboot downgarde the only way to get custom roms working?
EDIT:SD works
What about cid for pg file? i have htc_102. i tried fastboot oem writecid 1111111 and htc_01 but nothing changed.
Cid shouldn't be a problem with the zip from that thread. Try running an RUU and then downgrading hboot
EM|NEM said:
Cid shouldn't be a problem with the zip from that thread. Try running an RUU and then downgrading hboot
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A ics ruu? How too downgrade then?
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Solved it. Only flahed JB hb0ot 1.49 Form unlimited.io
@mods plus Close
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I have the same problem as you and I had. I need help, step by step. Do you just use HBOOT 1:49 and below = Gingerbread or you first installed the GB ruu, etc..
MeisterRoerich said:
I have my EVO HBOOt 1.53 (JopunutBear) S-off stock 4.0 rom. Now when i flash jb or ics custom roms i get a bootlop.
What can i do?
So have i to downgrade to hboot 1.49? If yes how to do this.
Yes i tried severyl things like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172&page=10 [ bootloader doesnt find pg86img.zip]
and other s-off guides but nothing really works
Thanks for help
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If you are still having issues let me know. I have recently had the same problem as yourself.
With hboot 1.53 you can only run ICS ROMs but if you are not able to run ICS either I would use a 4EXT recovery then enable smart flash (I know this should only matter when s-on is worth a go) Also use fastboot to flash the boot.img from what ever ROM you have chosen just incase it's an issue with that.
PG86img.zip files are CID specific and need to be for your location and carrier (from my understanding) unless you have a super CID which is 11111111 (denoting a factory unlocked device, but don't quote me)
I too have a 1.53.0007 hboot and also am having trouble finding a solution to hboot changes once you are s-off with that hboot. How I got that hboot after gaining s-off is beyond me but it seems I am not alone and if that hboot can be put in it HAS to be able to change it. The easiest way that I can think of is to gain s-on (I haven't looked hard enough for that yet though) then to s-off again and make the hboot update that way.
by the way (now I can't find it's exact meaning and am choked) I was really surprised that the beer reference had more than just a catchy ring to it. Engineering something or other, I shoulda wrote it down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172
the PG86IMG in this thread is compatible with all CIDs. as long as you are s-off you can change your hboot easily using this thread
EM|NEM said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172
the PG86IMG in this thread is compatible with all CIDs. as long as you are s-off you can change your hboot easily using this thread
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Thank you so much. And now I'm able to flash jellybean ROMs I think I'll stick with the ICS one I am using (King Cobra, I think could be Cool though) as it is great on batteries and everything works great. And I get to freak people out with the creepy 3d camera. lol.
machv5 said:
If you are still having issues let me know. I have recently had the same problem as yourself.
With hboot 1.53 you can only run ICS ROMs but if you are not able to run ICS either I would use a 4EXT recovery then enable smart flash (I know this should only matter when s-on is worth a go) Also use fastboot to flash the boot.img from what ever ROM you have chosen just incase it's an issue with that.
PG86img.zip files are CID specific and need to be for your location and carrier (from my understanding) unless you have a super CID which is 11111111 (denoting a factory unlocked device, but don't quote me)
I too have a 1.53.0007 hboot and also am having trouble finding a solution to hboot changes once you are s-off with that hboot. How I got that hboot after gaining s-off is beyond me but it seems I am not alone and if that hboot can be put in it HAS to be able to change it. The easiest way that I can think of is to gain s-on (I haven't looked hard enough for that yet though) then to s-off again and make the hboot update that way.
by the way (now I can't find it's exact meaning and am choked) I was really surprised that the beer reference had more than just a catchy ring to it. Engineering something or other, I shoulda wrote it down
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I just flashed hboot from joupnut bear
MeisterRoerich said:
I just flashed hboot from joupnut bear
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I am assuming that your phone wasn't S-OFF at the time? I accidentally tried to S-OFF one of my EVO 3Ds (GSM) that was already S-OFF at the time and I got a "WOW!!! What are you doing. Your phone appears to be S-OFF already. Doing so again could result in impotence, and death" or words to that effect. Basically a gaudy do you want your phone to die type of a message. If your device was S-OFF to begin with I was not aware that you could use Juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT version without going through the whole S-OFF process. Can you give some more details as to your phones state (i.e., HBOOT version, S-ON or S-OFF, etc...) before you used juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT. Thanks
machv5 said:
I am assuming that your phone wasn't S-OFF at the time? I accidentally tried to S-OFF one of my EVO 3Ds (GSM) that was already S-OFF at the time and I got a "WOW!!! What are you doing. Your phone appears to be S-OFF already. Doing so again could result in impotence, and death" or words to that effect. Basically a gaudy do you want your phone to die type of a message. If your device was S-OFF to begin with I was not aware that you could use Juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT version without going through the whole S-OFF process. Can you give some more details as to your phones state (i.e., HBOOT version, S-ON or S-OFF, etc...) before you used juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT. Thanks
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I s-OFFed my phone (Hboot 1.53 or sth.) with jouponut bear and then i flashed hboot 1,49.999 fro here: http://unlimited.io/jbhboots.htm
There is a thread about how exacly you can downgrade your hboot, maybe could be better explained but study the forum a bit more... I also had that problem and after two days searching and downloading all kinds of files I did it...
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