Looks like the department of justice didn't Like the merger between tmo and ATT and decided to stop the deal..they say it would hinder competition..anyways don't know if its over but not looking good..if I was a tmo user I would be jumping for joy
I went from TMobs to Sprint because of this deal, love my Evo, but miss the HSPA+ network.
I just dropped my evo to go to tmobille.. lolz I'm super happy!!!
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I'm not surprised one bit lol
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Not surprising wonder how many people jumped ship to sprint on their deal?
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vicious2500 said:
Not surprising wonder how many people jumped ship to sprint on their deal?
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I did, damn it.
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Looks like the department of justice didn't Like the merger between tmo and ATT and decided to stop the deal..they say it would hinder competition..anyways don't know if its over but not looking good..if I was a tmo user I would be jumping for joy
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They didn't stop the deal. They put up a lawsuit to stop it.
Bloomberg is reporting that the United States government just filed court papers in Washington, D.C. to block the much ballyhooed tie-up between AT&T and T-Mobile USA.
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They didn't stop the deal. They put up a lawsuit to stop it.
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Exactly, our Justice system is horrible, too. *cough* Casey Anthony *Cough*....
I switched from T-Mobile to Sprint, although that was not the only reason.
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Exactly, our Justice system is horrible, too. *cough* Casey Anthony *Cough*....
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Overstew said:
Exactly, our Justice system is horrible, too. *cough* Casey Anthony *Cough*....
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So this lawsuit will proceed, palms will get greased, the merger will eventually go through. Then there is the facade of due process. If they just let it pass there would be a lot of noise. But quickly going at it in court, for show, will appease most people. "Hey, they went to court and the court found blah blah blah, it must be better than I thought." World keeps on turnin'.
Sad. Really. I'm so jaded that I'm suspicious of the silver lining, the cloud, the sun, and the sky. The moon is probably in on it too.
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Sad. Really. I'm so jaded that I'm suspicious of the silver lining, the cloud, the sun, and the sky. The moon is probably in on it too.
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LMAO! That made my day.
I seriously hope the merger dies an a void stamped death & T-Mobile gets a boost of life back into it.
AT&T & Deutsche Telekom can go teabag a giraffe.
haha @ at&crap
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So this lawsuit will proceed, palms will get greased, the merger will eventually go through. Then there is the facade of due process. If they just let it pass there would be a lot of noise. But quickly going at it in court, for show, will appease most people. "Hey, they went to court and the court found blah blah blah, it must be better than I thought." World keeps on turnin'.
Sad. Really. I'm so jaded that I'm suspicious of the silver lining, the cloud, the sun, and the sky. The moon is probably in on it too.
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Could not have said it better
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Just came from t mobile too, but only because my work is finally paying for my phone line now. I miss the network speeds. although, on a side note, I did hit 10mb download today, which has never happened
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The deal has not been stopped
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http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/01/technology/att_tmobile_lawsuit/
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i hope the deal goes through. If i can get lte speeds in 95% of the country I'd be happy. I don't really see any downsides
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i hope the deal goes through. If i can get lte speeds in 95% of the country I'd be happy. I don't really see any downsides
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SMH.... Read around bro, please, for the benefit of yourself and the greater good. Don't be a Sucker.
Also: check att's leaked documents regarding the merger. Shows how what you are looking for won't happen as they dont actually intend on doing it.... Quite the opposite.
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Actually thought it said they intend on doing it. I the point of the leaked doc was that so far at has said they can't do it without tmobile. But in the doc it showed the cost for att to do the buildout and it was extremely less than the price they are paying for tmobile. This creates a problem and shows they are doing the merger for other reasons than the main one stated which is a big no no.
If the deal still goes through rest assured that there will be some big restrictions or stipulations surrounding it now.
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Related
http://androidcommunity.com/t-mobile-version-of-evo-3d-passes-through-fcc-20110629/
Welp, so much for exclusivity...
Watch the gsm version come bootloader unlocked on launch day.
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Watch the gsm version come bootloader unlocked on launch day.
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As much as it'll irk us early adopters, I hope HTC lives up to their word and it does come unlocked.
Exclusivity is not a big deal, I rather this phone become more popular than stay on Sprint. The more people own a 3D the more attention HTC gives it (hopefully)
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I dunno...Something tells me there will be a catch to this @ some point.
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Exclusivity is not a big deal, I rather this phone become more popular than stay on Sprint. The more people own a 3D the more attention HTC gives it (hopefully)
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Not just HTC, but the device itself. If more people own the E3D there will be a higher demand for more developers to make 3D content (movies, games, and so forth), as well as a higher demand for 3D devices in the future (Next gen. EVO with quadcore processor, 3D once again, more RAM, ROM and so forth ).
This will be fun. Now we get to sift through GSM only/CDMA only threads.
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This will be fun. Now we get to sift through GSM only/CDMA only threads.
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No they will make different forums
I had a g2x forum made to prevent this in the o2x forum... To many people would brick there phones flashing roms for cmda phones only and vise versa
@tmobile wtf I left you for the EVO 3d and now I'm stuck with a awesome phone and ****ty service. Great. ....
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Well damn, I hope its not true. Its not a fair shake. I'd like the HTC Sensation if it were a CDMA option along side the 3D.
You hardly ever hear of 2 flagship models from the same OEM come back to back like that, for 1 U.S. carrier.
Man I swear if Tmobile had better coverage here...they've been doing pretty well with the phone selection.
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Man I swear if Tmobile had better coverage here...they've been doing pretty well with the phone selection.
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Yeah the g2x was beast and I wanna see the sgs2 variant hurcules or w.e. its called
It has a 4.5in super amoled + display!
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Yay. Now when the AT&T/T-Mo merger goes through, Sprint will be SOL.
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Yay. Now when the AT&T/T-Mo merger goes through, Sprint will be SOL.
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Yup and they will have to tier there data package just like at&t-mobile and Verizon just to stay in business
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If this happens, I WILL sell my Sensation...
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Yup and they will have to tier there data package just like at&t-mobile and Verizon just to stay in business
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Don't underestimate Sprint.
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Don't underestimate Sprint.
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I must have overestimated them considering full bars of 3g is equal to a dialup fax machine at office max if not a tad faster upload rate
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Well damn, I hope its not true. Its not a fair shake. I'd like the HTC Sensation if it were a CDMA option along side the 3D.
You hardly ever hear of 2 flagship models from the same OEM come back to back like that, for 1 U.S. carrier.
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I would take this with a grain of salt. I can't see Sprint allowing this to happen. This is going to be like an AndroidCentral article "Update...Looks like we were wrong" We left out a small detail etc etc blah blah. We'll see though...And just bc it passed FCC, doesn't mean it will definitely see the light of day and if it does, it doesn't mean tomorrow or next month.
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I think they learned their lesson with the Nexus S forum being swamped with NS4G info
If this is true and it releases unlocked, could that potentially help us find a way to root ours?
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http://thedroidguy.com/2011/09/sprint-says-goodbye-to-bill-to-account/
Wow sprint is making some big changes
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http://thedroidguy.com/2011/09/sprint-says-goodbye-to-bill-to-account/
Wow sprint is making some big changes
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Doesn't apply to employees does it?
Now this is something I'm actually upset over.
Oh well though, times change.
this is ****ing stupid sprint. 2 months ago i liked sprint now not so much.
i never used it but wow at all the changes
Fml........
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Wtf. Thinking of just going to Verizon
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Well..this will keep me from buying new phones so often...I guess that's good for all involved?
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Wazzup with Sprint lately
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Wazzup with Sprint lately
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IPhone that's what everything is goin away because the iPhone is comin next is gonna be unlimited data
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Really, is it that bad not being able to bill to your account? I mean, you would have to pay on the next billing cycle anyways, so it's not really that big of a deal. If people are thinking of going to a completely different service just because they have to pay for a device a few days sooner, that seems a little silly.
It's not Sprints job to be a bill collector for a third party. Not sure why anyone would care whether you paid Sprint or Visa for your phone. Heck you can now earn points on your credit card now vs paying Sprint.
This is a good thing for Sprint and it eliminates one source of cramming and dealing with having to collect from deadbeat customers who buy and run.
If it hadn't been for bill to account, I would not have gotten the last 3 phones from Sprint. Especially the EVO 3D.
I think you guys are missing the point. Point being sprint doesn't seem to be the company they used to be with all the changes. I'm not saying I'm switching, I know some are. I think everyone is basically saying that all the perks that brought people to sprint in the first place, are being changed slowly but surely. Lets try not to turn this into another damn argument. **** gets old.
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I think you guys are missing the point. Point being sprint doesn't seem to be the company they used to be with all the changes. I'm not saying I'm switching, I know some are. I think everyone is basically saying that all the perks that brought people to sprint in the first place, are being changed slowly but surely. Lets try not to turn this into another damn argument. **** gets old.
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In all honesty, it's posts like these that start arguments. We were just having a conversation.
Should I get a Galaxy tablet this way now? Just to milk them for stripping this.
I was always able to stretch this within 2 Billing cycles & comfortably buy accessories this way, this really sucks.
It made the stupid fees & taxes bearable, come upgrade time.
This unlimited data slowly isn't wowing me as much, the things that made Sprint great collectivly are falling down to the 1 thing........... they better make good on Evdo rev. B & unlimited LTE.
Where is the balance of good news vs this?
Why not limit it to good standing customers? Or Premier Go-..... -_-.
I better be wowed on Oct 7th...
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In all honesty, it's posts like these that start arguments. We were just having a conversation.
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Lol. Yea.........You're right. Not even going to get in it with you. Good day sir.
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Lol. Yea.........You're right. Not even going to get in it with you. Good day sir.
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Good day to you, too.
At least I still have my app purchases through sprint.
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This us not true, don't believe the hype
If you don't have an Evo3d well ...
Just like the title says. I am through with Sprint and their bull****! Since they partnered with icrap there is nothing about Sprint that appeals to me anymore and I am cancelling my service with them. To get into the phone and carrier that I want it is going to cost me $475.00 so I am selling my Sprint phones and am going to give someone a GREAT DEAL. I have 2 EVO 3d's and an original EVO 4g. All of them can be yours for only $475.00 No I didn't stutter, $475.00 gets you all three phones
PM me or send an email to [email protected]
First come first serve.
**** Sprint!
UPDATE: PHONES HAVE BEEN SOLD!!!!!! Thank you to everyone that has shown an interest and I wish that I had enough to accommodate all the requests.
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Just like the title says. I am through with Sprint and their bull****! Since they partnered with icrap there is nothing about Sprint that appeals to me anymore and I am cancelling my service with them. To get into the phone and carrier that I want it is going to cost me $475.00 so I am selling my Sprint phones and am going to give someone a GREAT DEAL. I have 2 EVO 3d's and an original EVO 4g. All of them can be yours for only $475.00 No I didn't stutter, $475.00 gets you all three phones
PM me or send an email to [email protected]
First come first serve.
**** Sprint!
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Holy crap that's cheap lol. Too bad I'm on tmobile.
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Tmobile been real good to me worth checking out. I once had sprint but wasn't that great far as signal strengh in Chicago. Good luck
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Hopes no one was Force-Choked prior to the rage.
But damn, that is a sweet ass deal!
If they weren't on the phone there is a good chance that they would have been
What did they do? You didn't say...
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What did they do? You didn't say...
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The list is just way too long.
Are you going to pay your last bill so the phones aren't blacklisted? Good deal as long as the esns ate clear.
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Are you going to pay your last bill so the phones aren't blacklisted? Good deal as long as the esns ate clear.
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Of course I am. I have good credit and even though Sprint has pissed me off it is not near enough for me to ruin my credit over. Not to mention that I have a very good reputation on this and other sites which is also not worth ruining by selling bad merchandise. ALL three esn#'s are good and I will wait until the buyer transfers the phones to their name before I close the account.
I really hate you right now! I just paid 650 bucks for mine! For one!
Are you leaving because they have the iphone or cuz their service sucks
can you sell just one 3d?
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can you sell just one 3d?
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Right now I want to sell all of them together and I think I have them sold but we will see. If I were to sell them one at a time I would want 300 a piece for the 3d's and 250 for the og EVO. I really want to get rid of them as soon as I can which is why the ridiculously low price. That way I can pay sprint off, get into my new phone, and go on with life!
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I really hate you right now! I just paid 650 bucks for mine! For one!
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OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good luck! hope you find a carrier that suits you better.
Hope everything works out...sometimes I feel the same as you do...
Dude I feel you on this... I left Verizon on which I had the best service ever but now I hate sprint.. specially the fact that we pay for premium data and I barely get service in my area... Sprint sucks Period....
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Dude I feel you on this... I left Verizon on which I had the best service ever but now I hate sprint.. specially the fact that we pay for premium data and I barely get service in my area... Sprint sucks Period....
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I agree with ya .....sprint has unlimited data blah blah blah , but whats the use if most of the time you cant download due to the slow speeds of 3g even 4g
of course this is in my city..austin texas
WHat phone do you want? anyway? ... YOU know there are limits at everyother carrier tooooo right?
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I agree with ya .....sprint has unlimited data blah blah blah , but whats the use if most of the time you cant download due to the slow speeds of 3g even 4g
of course this is in my city..austin texas
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I'm in Austin too but my 4g is usually consistent at 7mbs. 3g is well....unusable lol
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Giving us less choices.
Buying US Cellular.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...r-spectrum-and-customers-in-the-midwest-area/
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The spectrum offerings that the company is picking up will be used to bolster LTE service for the markets that Sprint is taking off U.S. Cellular's hands.
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The transaction will add ...spectrum in the 1900 band
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that should help LTE and 3G in those cities
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that should help LTE and 3G in those cities
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Not others
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Wait, before you lambast Sprint, they've had their eye on this deal for a long time, even before they started showing signs of them potentially going belly up.
I assume this potentially motivated by the talk of the SoftBank acquisition, they already know that they're getting a good chunk of change from them here soon, so I feel like they're trying to build up their platform with out too much risk.
+1^
Ill bet softbank had a hand or purse in that deal.
It's like playing Monopoly. When you get so far behind that you have to start selling your real estate to cover your losses, you have already lost.
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Wait, before you lambast Sprint, they've had their eye on this deal for a long time, even before they started showing signs of them potentially going belly up.
I assume this potentially motivated by the talk of the SoftBank acquisition, they already know that they're getting a good chunk of change from them here soon, so I feel like they're trying to build up their platform with out too much risk.
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They was going belly up right before they started charging us that 10 dollar fee for slow 3g
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It's like playing Monopoly. When you get so far behind that you have to start selling your real estate to cover your losses, you have already lost.
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This
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Big brother yay
http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order
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Big brother yay
http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order
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That is ridiculous.. government.. no the constitution has no say anymore.. I'd like to see the jackass who spun words on how this is reasonable. Or that we the people have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding our phones which very personal matters revolve around.
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That is ridiculous.. government.. no the constitution has no say anymore.. I'd like to see the jackass who spun words on how this is reasonable. Or that we the people have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding our phones which very personal matters revolve around.
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Sshh!! Big Brother's watching!
Says top secret court order! LOL If it was top secret, would not know about it. Duh!!!!!
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Hey I'm all for it if it helps catch "bad guys" and junk. If you're not doing anything illegal who cares. Do what ya gotta do to catch the jerks. I for one am sick and tired of people getting away with junk, it's ultimately costing all of us.
It's worth noting that there's nothing in the article that indicates that they don't have similar orders in place for other carriers. The Verizon order is the one that leaked, but it would seem that given the breadth of the order, it's probably not VZW specific. The others just haven't been leaked at this point.
I don't personally lose a lot of sleep over this, but I can understand the concern on this. I do think that an order this broad is excessive.
I'm sure it's not just Verizon
I love the "if you're not doing anything, nothing to worry about" argument. No, I'm not doing anything. And it's because of that fact that no one should be building a database on who I call and for how long and where. People just don't get it... How far will it go? When does it stop? Should every person walking the streets be subject to search at any given time because "we might get a bad guy"
Sorry, but I don't do anything wrong. I'm a simple family man who enjoys sports and tech. And I am bothered by my government spying on me and my fellow citizen for no reason at all.
The article states, the conversations weren't recorded, but that's next. And how would you feel if some computer somewhere is recording you talking dirty to your wife? Or whatever, insert whatever you want there.
This isn't right. And it's scary.
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Says top secret court order! LOL If it was top secret, would not know about it. Duh!!!!!
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Thank god for whistle blowers/leakers. Without them, we WOULDN'T know about this.
Funny too how Obama is massively cracking down on whistle blowers...
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Hey I'm all for it if it helps catch "bad guys" and junk. If you're not doing anything illegal who cares. Do what ya gotta do to catch the jerks. I for one am sick and tired of people getting away with junk, it's ultimately costing all of us.
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So you are ok with say, at any random time, your door being kicked in and your house searched without a warrant? By your logic, someone somewhere is in a house doing bad things, so we should just search every house whenever we want.
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Apparently there is a rumor of a class action lawsuit against Verizon for compensation as well as contact cancellations Etf free..
Of course it will probably go no where because of the federal wire tap law hu ha bull****.
This Country that we are growing up in and supporting with our taxes cares not about us but soley about is control of the country.
Oddly enough Verizon most likely never put up a fight to this. Verizon license their air waves from the federal government.. as with their lte service and upcoming aws service they are leasing it from the govt. Makes since if you think about it..
Govt. Says if you want the best airwaves from us to Make you the number one provider we expect from you in return to allow us to collect millions of users call data ..
Well that's all I got for now till the govt. Pisses me off again
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Apparently there is a rumor of a class action lawsuit against Verizon for compensation as well as contact cancellations Etf free..
Of course it will probably go no where because of the federal wire tap law hu ha bull****.
This Country that we are growing up in and supporting with our taxes cares not about us but soley about is control of the country.
Oddly enough Verizon most likely never put up a fight to this. Verizon license their air waves from the federal government.. as with their lte service and upcoming aws service they are leasing it from the govt. Makes since if you think about it..
Govt. Says if you want the best airwaves from us to Make you the number one provider we expect from you in return to allow us to collect millions of users call data ..
Well that's all I got for now till the govt. Pisses me off again
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All airwaves are "leased" from the FCC. I deal with radio communications. Fire and law enforcement were pushed onto the 800MHz spectrum about 10 years ago. Now the FCC wants them to move to the 700MHz spectrum so they can lease the 800MHz to cell phone carriers. Tax payers pay for the equipment needed to make this change which isn't cheap.
All the complaints I heard about google snooping on your WiFi are nothing compared to our own government snooping on every spectrum out there.No communication is sacred unless it is face to face.
The extreme would be to go back to basics of a land line so your location couldn't be tracked. And not using any social media sites or forums. How far are you willing to go?
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I'm sure it's not just Verizon
I love the "if you're not doing anything, nothing to worry about" argument. No, I'm not doing anything. And it's because of that fact that no one should be building a database on who I call and for how long and where. People just don't get it... How far will it go? When does it stop? Should every person walking the streets be subject to search at any given time because "we might get a bad guy"
Sorry, but I don't do anything wrong. I'm a simple family man who enjoys sports and tech. And I am bothered by my government spying on me and my fellow citizen for no reason at all.
The article states, the conversations weren't recorded, but that's next. And how would you feel if some computer somewhere is recording you talking dirty to your wife? Or whatever, insert whatever you want there.
This isn't right. And it's scary.
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Maybe this all a scheme to get us back to using snail mail. That would boost the USPS revenues! /Sarcasm off
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Funny too how Obama is massively cracking down on whistle blowers...
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There's a difference between whistleblowers and people who just dump classified info.
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What I find more disturbing is how ok a lot of people are with our constitutional rights being blatantly violated by the government under the guise of they might catch a boogeyman. The point isn't "if I'm not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to worry about, so I don't care". The point is the lower level implications that the government is wiretapping us without a warrant for us individually without just cause. They cannot do that according to the constitution, and there should be impeachment implications over it AFAIC. Same goes for the second amendment. You might not like it, but it is our right - constitutionally - to be able to own firearms. Like I said, I'm troubled by how many people are just ok with our rights be stripped of us. Rights that make us American, that made us the free people we were.
I wonder how much more intrusion, how much more erosion of our rights it is going to take before the American people revolt and tell them to back the eff off. I don't think we are those kinds of people any more sadly. We are not the people with the spine to stand up to big brother to defend our freedoms from an overreaching government. Myself included - I know I don't have that in me.
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There's a difference between whistleblowers and people who just dump classified info.
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That is literally the same thing. Bradley Manning dumped classified info. He is labeled a whistleblower. As far as Obama and his admin are concerned, they are one in the same.
The war party started this under Bush with the Patriot Act. U can thank all those who got them in power for what is happening today. Know ur history.
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The war party started this under Bush with the Patriot Act. U can thank all those who got them in power for what is happening today. Know ur history.
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While true, the Patriot Act was extended by congress and signed by the president that is sitting in office right now. They had a chance to let it die, and didn't. Now it is all on them for what we have today from that Patriot Act POS when they should have let it die out.
The government likes to use the argument that "they (we) are still looking for terrorists." This argument is now void. Seriously, we stopped trying to end terrorism years ago. We cannot possibly still think that our government is still trying to do this. They are constantly getting into our private lives like it is nothing.
Look, I am a soldier in the United States Army, and I do not see myself ever going into some senators house and going through his documents because I can. That is exactly what they are doing to me! I have nothing to hide. Just do not go through my personal life. I guarantee that they would not like it if I went through their personal lives. LEAVE MY VERIZON RECORDS ALONE!
badogg said:
While true, the Patriot Act was extended by congress and signed by the president that is sitting in office right now. They had a chance to let it die, and didn't. Now it is all on them for what we have today from that Patriot Act POS when they should have let it die out.
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Just saw on news that this survelance has prevented a major terrorist attacks on US soil, or so they claim.
Guess the Bostom bombers were using MetroPCS! LOL
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MicroMod777 said:
The war party started this under Bush with the Patriot Act. U can thank all those who got them in power for what is happening today. Know ur history.
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dude, are you serious?
learn the facts, and then speak. you just sound ignorant here.
read what badogg said; it's 100% true. all these politicians are exactly the same, and the most disgusting part of it is people like you who claim "oh bush was the bad guy wah wah wah" but then you think it's perfectly okay when obama does it. absolutely pathetic. the citizens of this country are just as much to blame as the government, since they're the ones who voted these idiots in.