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Im interested in getting the atrix from att, however I know of the issue where custom ROMS may never happen for this phone because of the locked bootloader.
Since att has locked down the mobile hotspot app to verify you have a tethering plan (I have unlimited data) and since they also disable the option to install non market apps, would it be possible to flash the firmware from the Bell version of the atrix when it is released in a few days onto the att version? The only reason i think this would work is because technically it is still an official ROM, just for a different region. Does anyone know if this will work? This will probably be the deciding factor in whether I decide to get this phone...
patrick92260 said:
Im interested in getting the atrix from att, however I know of the issue where custom ROMS may never happen for this phone because of the locked bootloader.
Since att has locked down the mobile hotspot app to verify you have a tethering plan (I have unlimited data) and since they also disable the option to install non market apps, would it be possible to flash the firmware from the Bell version of the atrix when it is released in a few days onto the att version? The only reason i think this would work is because technically it is still an official ROM, just for a different region. Does anyone know if this will work? This will probably be the deciding factor in whether I decide to get this phone...
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any reason why you do not want to root? it only takes one click of the rooting program and you can do both of what you want (tether and sideload). There's really no harm in it, plus the rooting program lets you unroot if needed. clean simple. way safer than trying to flash a rom meant for a different region that could possibly brick your device.
will superone click root put the option to install non market apps back in the phone settings or do you still need to sideload the apks? the only thing i have heard with getting around the tethering restriction was to create a new apn which many people have said is unreliable...
patrick92260 said:
will superone click root put the option to install non market apps back in the phone settings or do you still need to sideload the apks? the only thing i have heard with getting around the tethering restriction was to create a new apn which many people have said is unreliable...
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There is an option after rooting to make the phone natively install non-market apps.
patrick92260 said:
will superone click root put the option to install non market apps back in the phone settings or do you still need to sideload the apks? the only thing i have heard with getting around the tethering restriction was to create a new apn which many people have said is unreliable...
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To install non-market apps is what sideloading means. you do via other sources such as the sdcard, from email, or adb if you want. you dont need an option in settings to allow you to do this. the root program will set it up for you if you select it after you are done rooting.
For tethering, it will depend on the APN set. so even if you install bell's rom, you still need to setup apn's to access at&t's network, the same apn settings you are gonna use anyways.
NguyenHuu said:
any reason why you do not want to root? it only takes one click of the rooting program and you can do both of what you want (tether and sideload). There's really no harm in it, plus the rooting program lets you unroot if needed. clean simple. way safer than trying to flash a rom meant for a different region that could possibly brick your device.
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The one advantage would be that upload speeds (hopefully) won't be capped on the Bell version as they are on the AT&T versions.
i dont think it would even be possible to flash bell's atrix firmware with the bootloader locked...
neotekz said:
i dont think it would even be possible to flash bell's atrix firmware with the bootloader locked...
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I hope just because it is still an official firmware there is some way to trick the phone into flashing it. I am very familiar with HTC phones and on those all you need to do is remove the CID (Carrier Identification) protection to flash any official (not custom) ROMS from another carrier or region. Does anyone know if Moto phones have something similar to this?
patrick92260 said:
I hope just because it is still an official firmware there is some way to trick the phone into flashing it. I am very familiar with HTC phones and on those all you need to do is remove the CID (Carrier Identification) protection to flash any official (not custom) ROMS from another carrier or region. Does anyone know if Moto phones have something similar to this?
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A similar thing with my OLD Nokia E63 running symbian.. all I had to do was change something called a Product Code to one of a different carrier/region and then run nokia's updater which would then flash that carrier's/region's FW onto my phone, I know android is different as well as different brands, but if HTC and Nokia have a hidden backdoor, who's saying moto doesn't?
Even if we cant flash the whole rom, we can use it's dump as a source for apk mods.
Hey guys
I´m new here at xda-developers and I have a lot of questions about the atrix and android.
I just bought the atrix and this is my first android smartphone. I´ve SIM unlocked it and rooted it using SuperOneClick.
I´ve read the Q & A thread and it was quite enlightening.
But I still have many questions regarding both the atrix and android:
1. A few days ago, my atrix downloaded the new Motorola atrix updates. If I install this update, will I lose my root permission? Is this update the so called OTA? The update number is 4.1.57.
2. Could you guys give me some tips about how to save more battery life etc?
3. Some apps keep popping even after I killed them with the task killer. Some of them are useless for me. Is there any way to block them? And what about Motorola bloatware? I hate that blur stuff…
4. What does these abbreviations mean? OTA, SBF, ATT, CWM.
5. I want to install gingerBlur on my device, but on those tutorials there is always a mentioning about a OTA 1.8.7 that I gotta backup. Where do I find it?
6. If I install gingerBlur, this custom ROM will consume more or less memory from my device? Sometimes I feel some "lag" on some apps...
7. Could u tell me some must have games for atrix? I already have angry birds, battleheart, 3ktd… I really like tower defense games.
Thank you very much and sorry for so many questions. Oh…and sorry about my English.
Thanks again
1. Yes..you will lose root if you upgrade. You can still however attain root afterwards using some of the methods found in the Development forum. I'm surprised SuperOneClick worked for you tbh..
As for your other questions..OTA means Over The Air (regarding updates etc)..SBF is a term regarding system files (something lime that ) ATT means At&t (the carrier)..CWM is Clockwork Mod which is a recovery tool.
Gingerblur would consume less memory..as it has removed alot of the factory bloat that would've come with the device. This would probably most definately help with any "lag" you might be experiencing.
There are many threads on how to conserve battery life. A simple search will yield you lots of results (google ftw)
For games..most of it is personal preference. There is a new Pinball HD specifically designed for the Tegra 2 chip..as well as a new jetski game that looks pretty sick. Pocketlegends is also a cool game if you like MMO style games (think World of Warcraft).
Rickroller said:
1. Yes..you will lose root if you upgrade. You can still however attain root afterwards using some of the methods found in the Development forum. I'm surprised SuperOneClick worked for you tbh..
As for your other questions..OTA means Over The Air (regarding updates etc)..SBF is a term regarding system files (something lime that ) ATT means At&t (the carrier)..CWM is Clockwork Mod which is a recovery tool.
Gingerblur would consume less memory..as it has removed alot of the factory bloat that would've come with the device. This would probably most definately help with any "lag" you might be experiencing.
There are many threads on how to conserve battery life. A simple search will yield you lots of results (google ftw)
For games..most of it is personal preference. There is a new Pinball HD specifically designed for the Tegra 2 chip..as well as a new jetski game that looks pretty sick. Pocketlegends is also a cool game if you like MMO style games (think World of Warcraft).
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Thank you very much Rick
About the battery life I already did some google search before, but always the same thing. I thought that I could find anything different here
I rooted my device with SuperOneClick it worked pretty well. Is it an old tool to root the atrix? Is there a new one? In the superOneClick, it can use psneuter and Gingerbreak....well...it worked for me
So OTA is those updates that keep popping for me I want to install gingerBlur, so i gotta update to 1.5.7 and then 1.8.(something) or I can install it right away?
If I want to reset my settings to default factory, will I need that OTA??
ty
Rubb said:
Hey guys
I´m new here at xda-developers and I have a lot of questions about the atrix and android.
I just bought the atrix and this is my first android smartphone. I´ve SIM unlocked it and rooted it using SuperOneClick.
I´ve read the Q & A thread and it was quite enlightening.
But I still have many questions regarding both the atrix and android:
1. A few days ago, my atrix downloaded the new Motorola atrix updates. If I install this update, will I lose my root permission? Is this update the so called OTA? The update number is 4.1.57.
2. Could you guys give me some tips about how to save more battery life etc?
3. Some apps keep popping even after I killed them with the task killer. Some of them are useless for me. Is there any way to block them? And what about Motorola bloatware? I hate that blur stuff…
4. What does these abbreviations mean? OTA, SBF, ATT, CWM.
5. I want to install gingerBlur on my device, but on those tutorials there is always a mentioning about a OTA 1.8.7 that I gotta backup. Where do I find it?
6. If I install gingerBlur, this custom ROM will consume more or less memory from my device? Sometimes I feel some "lag" on some apps...
7. Could u tell me some must have games for atrix? I already have angry birds, battleheart, 3ktd… I really like tower defense games.
Thank you very much and sorry for so many questions. Oh…and sorry about my English.
Thanks again
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1) Thats one of the OTA updates, but not the most recent. You will loose your root with any OTA update, but so far you can always get it back using Gingerbreak.
2)Turn off bluetooth, wifi, data, gps, etc. if your not using them. I have everything but wifi turned off at all times unless I"m using one of them and I have between 40-60% at the end of the day. Also, either have your brightness turned down or use auto brightness. Manually setting it high will drain the battery faster when the screen is on.
3)Dont use task killers. Android does not work like Windows, and those applications are not slowing anything down or eating your battery. By killing them your interfering with Android's internal memory management. Unfortunately the motoblur stuff cant be fully disabled, but parts of it can be hidden with the existing psudoroms like Gingerblur.
4)OTA, SBF, ATT, CWM. - OTA is Over The Air (update). Any official motorola update that gets pushed is an OTA. SBF - not sure what it stands for, but its the file format for Motorola's updates. Usually you can download one on a computer and flash it over USB if you arent getting it over the air, and they can be used as a last resort if you brick your phone. ATT - AT&T, the carrier for the Atrix in the United States. Some roms and tweeks are only compatible with AT&T model phones. CWM - ClockworkMod, software that allows for the installation of roms. CWM is device specific, so only use an Atrix CWM on the Atrix.
5) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063618
6) Either the same or slightly less. So far roms are little more than themes because of the locked bootloader. I say slightly less because some, like Gingerblur, remove SOME of the bloatware.
7) As I dont really play games much, I'm unable to answer this. Sorry.
Hope that helps
Jotokun said:
1) Thats one of the OTA updates, but not the most recent. You will loose your root with any OTA update, but so far you can always get it back using Gingerbreak.
2)Turn off bluetooth, wifi, data, gps, etc. if your not using them. I have everything but wifi turned off at all times unless I"m using one of them and I have between 40-60% at the end of the day. Also, either have your brightness turned down or use auto brightness. Manually setting it high will drain the battery faster when the screen is on.
3)Dont use task killers. Android does not work like Windows, and those applications are not slowing anything down or eating your battery. By killing them your interfering with Android's internal memory management. Unfortunately the motoblur stuff cant be fully disabled, but parts of it can be hidden with the existing psudoroms like Gingerblur.
4)OTA, SBF, ATT, CWM. - OTA is Over The Air (update). Any official motorola update that gets pushed is an OTA. SBF - not sure what it stands for, but its the file format for Motorola's updates. Usually you can download one on a computer and flash it over USB if you arent getting it over the air, and they can be used as a last resort if you brick your phone. ATT - AT&T, the carrier for the Atrix in the United States. Some roms and tweeks are only compatible with AT&T model phones. CWM - ClockworkMod, software that allows for the installation of roms. CWM is device specific, so only use an Atrix CWM on the Atrix.
5) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063618
6) Either the same or slightly less. So far roms are little more than themes because of the locked bootloader. I say slightly less because some, like Gingerblur, remove SOME of the bloatware.
7) As I dont really play games much, I'm unable to answer this. Sorry.
Hope that helps
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Yay! thank you very much
I´m not lost anymore Now I´m confident enough to try installing gingerblur
ty ^^
Another thing...
what should I do if something goes wrong when I install gingerBlur? I´ve read that I gotta flash sbf 1.8.3. Does it mean that I gotta install the update 1.8.3 to make the atrix stock default?
How do I do that?
I'm not trying to sound ignorant, but if all of this it's so confusing I would highly recommend not messing with it unless you're confident you can fix things if they go wrong. Which at this state you are not.
With that said... An SBF is not an update file as mentioned, it is a full system restore image. Not sure what it stands for... Maybe System Backup File???
If something goes wrong you can use an sbf to restore the phone to the factory default of the sbf version number.
Before installing gingerblur you want to be sure you are on the latest version of atrix software, then run gingerbreak to root. Then install CWM to get custom recovery and flash gingerblur from your sd card in CWM. all of this is explained in the development section.
lostinbeta said:
I'm not trying to sound ignorant, but if all of this it's so confusing I would highly recommend not messing with it unless you're confident you can fix things if they go wrong. Which at this state you are not.
With that said... An SBF is not an update file as mentioned, it is a full system restore image. Not sure what it stands for... Maybe System Backup File???
If something goes wrong you can use an sbf to restore the phone to the factory default of the sbf version number.
Before installing gingerblur you want to be sure you are on the latest version of atrix software, then run gingerbreak to root. Then install CWM to get custom recovery and flash gingerblur from your sd card in CWM. all of this is explained in the development section.
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Hey lostinbeta, u didn´t sound ignorant at all
I didn´t install the gingerblur yet as I´m trying to learn what I should do in case something goes wrong
That's where you would check the thread in the dev section about flashing an sbf file to restore back to factory default. You will have to make sure an sbf is available for your phone though. So like I'm with at&t so I can only flash the sbf for the at&t atrix otherwise I will lose functionality of my phone. Or possibly brick it, im not sure
lostinbeta said:
That's where you would check the thread in the dev section about flashing an sbf file to restore back to factory default. You will have to make sure an sbf is available for your phone though. So like I'm with at&t so I can only flash the sbf for the at&t atrix otherwise I will lose functionality of my phone. Or possibly brick it, im not sure
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My atrix is from AT&T so I guess the sbf commonly available is from AT&T. I will make sure that the sbf I will use is definitely the one from AT&T.
I will check the thread about restoring the atrix to factory default
Thanks a lot
EDIT: not ROM related...can I use mp3 sounds as SMS alert sound and can I use different mp3 sound for my contacts?
I´m looking for it as I write this but no success
ty
Reading through this thread, if you can't follow all the instructions fed to you on a silver spoon, and can't/won't/don't read all the appropriate information in the many threads which tell you how to do everything you are trying/want to do, then you either need to keep your phone stock, or go trade it for an iPhone!
Not trying to be a ****, but next you will want someone to change your daiper/nappy!
Mp3s as SMS tones I'm not sure. I think you can with an SMS replacement app like chomp. I've really never tried as I've had no need to since my phone is on silent 95% of the day because of work.
Individual mp3s for contacts you just have to edit your contact and choose ' more details' and it's towards the bottom. You can use ringdroid to make custom cuts or just put the file in the ringtones folder under 'sdcard' not 'sdcard-ext'.
CaelanT said:
Reading through this thread, if you can't follow all the instructions fed to you on a silver spoon, and can't/won't/don't read all the appropriate information in the many threads which tell you how to do everything you are trying/want to do, then you either need to keep your phone stock, or go trade it for an iPhone!
Not trying to be a ****, but next you will want someone to change your daiper/nappy!
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Rofl... Sorry this is amusing and true.
I don't mind helping, I'm not really much help anywhere else on this forum as I still just have basic knowledge about this stuff.
Hey guys
Well the familar volume up/down button broken happened to me, phones not that old either
Had it repaired in the UK straight from Samsung, who's service is to be honest damm bloody good! Special Delivery pre paid envelope sent, and the return time was less than a week inc a Bank Holiday day, so that part of the service was great!
Now the not so good part lol
The phone was rooted by a mate I think who said he could "UNLOCK" the carrier for me, so I could use my simcard.... a nice little note from Samsung was packed in with my phone, telling me the fault had been repaired, and the very latest firmware had been installed to keep the device UP TO DATE :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Now of course, not only is the phone back to stock, its not accepting my simcard either!!
I have a few questions which im hoping someone might be able to help with
I looked at the Cyangenmod10 which I found by accident, it looks good and to be honest I hated my radio cutting out because I had turned over and the phone had too, so I wouldn't miss that specific feature, but would installing it "ROOT" the phone?
I need to be able to use my carrier. I may have come across some APK files which might need to be installed, and some of these need the phone rooted, Titanium Backup is another app I use which needs rooting and Superuser access I believe
Will all this be done if Cyangenmod10 is put on the phone?
Any help or info appreciated please
Flashing a custom rom will not unlock your phone!
And AFAIK, your phone needs to be rooted before trying to flash CM
So:
-first root your phone with CF-root by Chainfire
-then unlock your phone with GalaxSim Unlock by Spocky12
Pepperami1964 said:
Hey guys
I looked at the Cyangenmod10 which I found by accident, it looks good and to be honest I hated my radio cutting out because I had turned over and the phone had too, so I wouldn't miss that specific feature, but would installing it "ROOT" the phone?
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You know that feature can be turned off in the Settings, right??
Cheers for the replies
Yes, I know it can be turned off, but to be honest coming from an iPhone 4s to this, The S3 is FAR superior, there are just a few things I am either not used to, or dont like, touchwiz being one lol
Ok well I will root, and unlock then have a think.... any views on CyanogenMod10 and is it easy to remove if its not liked?
I like the look of it from what I have seen, looks nice and clean, easy to use, just wanted to ask your opinions
Root
Backup apps with Titanium Backup Pro .
Backup EFS folder .
Backup current firmware with CWM recovery .
Try what you want and restore back .
jje
Well, I rooted it successfully after following the instructions, I then installed the Sim Unlock and it said it couldnt find busybox, so I installed that, then went back to sim unlock and it failed, all the things are in RED
I tried rebooting the phone, it turns on and asks for an unlock code, tried Sim unlock again, not working, any ideas?
Searched google with lots of different keywords and can't find anything that will successfully root this phone. It's running 4.0.4 IMM76I ics with software version 1.006SP, hardware 010B. The kernel version, if it helps, is:
3.0.21-g88ef181
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 18
08:39:31 JST 2013
I've tried superoneclick, multiroot (title is root many.... on xda mainly for sony but some kyocera), and xfactor exploit. I know most of them aren't for this specific phone. In the root many and xfactor, it does manage to call up the restore screen but the phone closes the restore a few seconds after opening it and the exploit fails every time. I've been checking every day for new news for this phone but haven't found anything yet. I assume it is because it isn't a popular phone as to why there is not a guide. I assume that kyocera/sprint buttoned up the back doors for the other kyocera phones on this model. Any suggestions or clarifications are welcome.
1/24/2014: edited for others who might come across this topic in the future.
the old instructions to use motochopper to get root isn't necessary anymore.
only thing a person needs now is Framaroot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
i used the latest one 1.8.1 w/o problems.
make sure to click "Gandalf"
after SuperSU app is installed, go into the settings of SuperSU, and choose "Grant" for default access.
Def need to get rid of the bloatware .... bump!
Rooting the Kyocera Torque
So I finally got around to replacing my old EVO with something a little more durable, but the sprint bloatware is killing me. Would someone with the proper skill sets please figure out how to root the Torque? I know at the very least I would be extremely grateful.
"Bump"
-Cheers
JonesZen
**BTW the xda n00b video is a little insulting.
joneszen said:
So I finally got around to replacing my old EVO with something a little more durable, but the sprint bloatware is killing me. Would someone with the proper skill sets please figure out how to root the Torque? I know at the very least I would be extremely grateful.
"Bump"
-Cheers
JonesZen
**BTW the xda n00b video is a little insulting.
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My work just switched over to sprint and got us all this phone. So that's about 40 of us that got this one, and its horrible that we have no root! We would be extremely grateful if we could get some root going on!
Kyocera torque root
Im in the same boat :-/
"Bump"
1/24/2014: edited for others who might come across this topic in the future.
the old instructions to use motochopper to get root isn't necessary anymore.
only thing a person needs now is Framaroot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
i used the latest one 1.8.1 w/o problems.
make sure to click "Gandalf"
after SuperSU app is installed, go into the settings of SuperSU, and choose "Grant" for default access.
add My vote
Another vote! :good:
Would love to have root on this phone.
please help root my phone
oscarthegrouch said:
Searched google with lots of different keywords and can't find anything that will successfully root this phone. It's running 4.0.4 IMM76I ics with software version 1.006SP, hardware 010B. The kernel version, if it helps, is:
3.0.21-g88ef181
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 18
08:39:31 JST 2013
I've tried superoneclick, multiroot (title is root many.... on xda mainly for sony but some kyocera), and xfactor exploit. I know most of them aren't for this specific phone. In the root many and xfactor, it does manage to call up the restore screen but the phone closes the restore a few seconds after opening it and the exploit fails every time. I've been checking every day for new news for this phone but haven't found anything yet. I assume it is because it isn't a popular phone as to why there is not a guide. I assume that kyocera/sprint buttoned up the back doors for the other kyocera phones on this model. Any suggestions or clarifications are welcome.
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I to have tried other rooting methods (poot, z4root) because they work on other kyocera phones with no luck. But I don't believe that kyocera/sprint buttoned up the back door. Where there is a will there is a way. I'm w willing to try any other methods that anyone would be willing to share . The other commits say this is not a popular device I disagree with that it will sell in good numbers. We just need to find someone willing to root it and build us some roms. Thats why my hat is off to all the people who put forth an effort on the HTC EVO, HTC Hero, Samsung Epic, S2 and S3. If you or anyone have any ideas who we need to talk to, a root method, or anything let me know I will try anything to get rid of bloat and root this device. If I knew how to write a script to do it myself it would be done but I'm no where near the talent level of the ones who do. I'm just a flasher
zo15 said:
I to have tried other rooting methods (poot, z4root) because they work on other kyocera phones with no luck. But I don't believe that kyocera/sprint buttoned up the back door. Where there is a will there is a way. I'm w willing to try any other methods that anyone would be willing to share . The other commits say this is not a popular device I disagree with that it will sell in good numbers. We just need to find someone willing to root it and build us some roms. Thats why my hat is off to all the people who put forth an effort on the HTC EVO, HTC Hero, Samsung Epic, S2 and S3. If you or anyone have any ideas who we need to talk to, a root method, or anything let me know I will try anything to get rid of bloat and root this device. If I knew how to write a script to do it myself it would be done but I'm no where near the talent level of the ones who do. I'm just a flasher
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I've tried to I'm blue in the face!!! I tried to reach out to others who have helped me in rooting and in roms with no luck whatsoever because of devices like the HTC ONE and the new S4 around the corner they must have their hands full. I've also tried the two methods that you did as well as SRS One Click. I just wish I know how to do this and I would do it myself. Please someone out there HELP US!!!!!!:cyclops: Teach me!!
My buddy had gotten this phone and I wanted to help him get rid of the bloat ware. I have tried everything but the one click root program. I wanted to try like I first did on the original evo 4g. Someone, I'm assuming a dev had put in how to basically on adb put the phone into a suspend type mode and were able to root the phone then. I looked all over for the code, but couldn't find it. I'll willing to try anything too. I'm not a dev, but I'm not a noob. I do know a little with the android coding, so anything I can do to help...
A lot of rambling too
1/24/2014: edited for others who might come across this topic in the future.
the old instructions to use motochopper to get root isn't necessary anymore.
only thing a person needs now is Framaroot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
i used the latest one 1.8.1 w/o problems.
make sure to click "Gandalf"
after SuperSU app is installed, go into the settings of SuperSU, and choose "Grant" for default access.
From a rooted torque
oscarthegrouch said:
Searched google with lots of different keywords and can't find anything that will successfully root this phone. It's running 4.0.4 IMM76I ics with software version 1.006SP, hardware 010B. The kernel version, if it helps, is:
3.0.21-g88ef181
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 18
08:39:31 JST 2013
I've tried superoneclick, multiroot (title is root many.... on xda mainly for sony but some kyocera), and xfactor exploit. I know most of them aren't for this specific phone. In the root many and xfactor, it does manage to call up the restore screen but the phone closes the restore a few seconds after opening it and the exploit fails every time. I've been checking every day for new news for this phone but haven't found anything yet. I assume it is because it isn't a popular phone as to why there is not a guide. I assume that kyocera/sprint buttoned up the back doors for the other kyocera phones on this model. Any suggestions or clarifications are welcome.
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Ok! try motochop it works the only problem is I can't get superuser to work right. You have to go into the settings and set default access as grant. From what I know the 1st rooted torque ever.
Thank the dev djrblizz (I hope I got that right)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
AWESOME!!!!
zo15 said:
Ok! try motochop it works the only problem is I can't get superuser to work right. You have to go into the settings and set default access as grant. From what I know the 1st rooted torque ever.
Thank the dev djrblizz (I hope I got that right)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
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I actually just saw this phone in the store the other day and am considering purchasing it.
Don't actually need Direct Connect, tho.... so I'm wondering how easy it would be to use or even make a custom rom with 4.2, and perhaps the EcoBoost and Maximizer (sp?) battery saving apps that come stock with the Sprint firmware.
I'm guessing that if the phone has been rooted, the Roms will come??
i tried the motochop on the torque, and it said successful and everything, changed the acces to auto allow, and it still isnt working. Superuser is there, but wont work. did you do anything special or anything else?
zo15 said:
Ok! try motochop it works the only problem is I can't get superuser to work right. You have to go into the settings and set default access as grant. From what I know the 1st rooted torque ever.
Thank the dev djrblizz (I hope I got that right)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
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i tried the motochop on the torque, and it said successful and everything, changed the acces to auto allow, and it still isnt working. Superuser is there, but wont work. did you do anything special or anything else?
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The next question is which release version are you guys using when attempting root with motochopper? It is now at 1.007SP. I attempted a few different methods while on 1.006SP without success. Personally, I only would like root for general reasons (Titanium Backup to efficiently backup/restore/transfer apps between wipes and possibly tethering) along with reprogramming/disabling the DC button (though 1.007SP has alleviated this a bit by cancelling its ability to wake the device while disabled in the system settings; 1.006SP still allowed DC button device wake even while disabled). If this were my primary phone, I would probably commit more time to it, but maybe I will after a little more feedback from yall currently working on it.
SoHardcore said:
I actually just saw this phone in the store the other day and am considering purchasing it.
Don't actually need Direct Connect, tho.... so I'm wondering how easy it would be to use or even make a custom rom with 4.2, and perhaps the EcoBoost and Maximizer (sp?) battery saving apps that come stock with the Sprint firmware.
I'm guessing that if the phone has been rooted, the Roms will come??
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I would hold up on purchasing if you think what has been posted thus far is automatically going to lead to custom ROMs to the extent of what you are saying...at all. First off, this phone is currently running 4.0.4 ICS and not even 4.1 JB (so jumping to 4.2 on a phone without wide usership and development would require you to step in, crack your knuckles and figure some stuff out). And, second, there would, likely, have to be some serious porting & dev efforts to fathom anything you just said after seeing a single report of unstable root access. To put things in perspective, this 2-page thread is just about the only public forum activity pertaining the the Torque's root...pretty dismal.
So root for this phone actually is working on the stock rom, and allows bloatware removal & root roms?
I could care less about custom roms, kernels, whatnot. I'm still running an Evo 4G, and would love to be able to pick up this phone for the DC, so that I don't have to carry two cell phones everywhere (My Evo, and the work-issued Direct Connect phone).
I don't care about the latest & greatest (as evidenced by my "ancient" Evo), so this phone would be an upgrade over what I have... assuming that root is available so that I can remove bloatware, add Titanium Backup, Quick Boot, SetCPU, Wireless Tether, and Roam Control.
On my Evo, I run the stock rooted ROM, with the bloatware stripped out & the above Root apps... that's the only reason I need root.
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The next question is which release version are you guys using when attempting root with motochopper? It is now at 1.007SP. I attempted a few different methods while on 1.006SP without success. Personally, I only would like root for general reasons (Titanium Backup to efficiently backup/restore/transfer apps between wipes and possibly tethering) along with reprogramming/disabling the DC button (though 1.007SP has alleviated this a bit by cancelling its ability to wake the device while disabled in the system settings; 1.006SP still allowed DC button device wake even while disabled). If this were my primary phone, I would probably commit more time to it, but maybe I will after a little more feedback from yall currently working on it.
I would hold up on purchasing if you think what has been posted thus far is automatically going to lead to custom ROMs to the extent of what you are saying...at all. First off, this phone is currently running 4.0.4 ICS and not even 4.1 JB (so jumping to 4.2 on a phone without wide usership and development would require you to step in, crack your knuckles and figure some stuff out). And, second, there would, likely, have to be some serious porting & dev efforts to fathom anything you just said after seeing a single report of unstable root access. To put things in perspective, this 2-page thread is just about the only public forum activity pertaining the the Torque's root...pretty dismal.
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Hi guys it was 1.0006. SP that I rooted at first I had the same problems with superuser at first. So I wiped my phone and used motochop again. Still I had no su ability. So I tried super one click to see if I could get it to fix the root and it said I had root access. Then I went back into superuser and granted permission to then updated the permission and busybox. It worked for me until I had 1.007 SP pushed to my phone and superuser stopped working I'm trying to find a fix and I will. My phone still shows root access I just think we need a superuser that work right.
slimbobaggins said:
So root for this phone actually is working on the stock rom, and allows bloatware removal & root roms?
I could care less about custom roms, kernels, whatnot. I'm still running an Evo 4G, and would love to be able to pick up this phone for the DC, so that I don't have to carry two cell phones everywhere (My Evo, and the work-issued Direct Connect phone).
I don't care about the latest & greatest (as evidenced by my "ancient" Evo), so this phone would be an upgrade over what I have... assuming that root is available so that I can remove bloatware, add Titanium Backup, Quick Boot, SetCPU, Wireless Tether, and Roam Control.
On my Evo, I run the stock rooted ROM, with the bloatware stripped out & the above Root apps... that's the only reason I need root.
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Not sure what you are gathering with what has been written so far, but, NO. Feel free to buy a Torque and start testing with everyone though.
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zo15 said:
Hi guys it was 1.0006. SP that I rooted at first I had the same problems with superuser at first. So I wiped my phone and used motochop again. Still I had no su ability. So I tried super one click to see if I could get it to fix the root and it said I had root access. Then I went back into superuser and granted permission to then updated the permission and busybox. It worked for me until I had 1.007 SP pushed to my phone and superuser stopped working I'm trying to find a fix and I will. My phone still shows root access I just think we need a superuser that work right.
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I have one on each, but I will try on my 1.006SP one first and see what I get. I have to hold off on my updated 1.007SP one because I have to take it in for some hardware issues (no camera focus and one of the faux screws fell out on the front). About to check it out with motochopper on 1.006 (but I think I have already). I will report back.
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So, on 1.006SP, after motochopper, I have shell root using ADB on my PC but no apps recognize root access on the device itself. I am tempted to just allow 1.007SP to install and try from there. It is going to get to a point where everyone has the OTA installed anyway...if that becomes the case, it will be pointless to have root attained on an older version (unless a downgrade option becomes available).
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Same deal with 1.007SP.
Root and S-Off Recommended
For S-Off look here then follow directions for permanent root in the development forum
1. Download a file explorer with root-browsing capabilities like Root Explorer or ES File Explorer from the Play Store
2. Using the file explorer you downloaded above, head over to /system/customize/ACC folder and open the default.XML file using any text editor.
3. Navigate to the following code near the bottom of the file:
<app name=”Tethering_provision”>
<item type=”integer”name=”TetheringGuard_rule”>3</item></app>
Notice the “3” above in bold. Change it to “0.” Save the edited text file and exit the app.
4. Reboot
Go into settings, enable WiFi Hotspot and it'll turn on. I did this on my At&t Desire 610, I assume other carriers can use the same method.
If Hotspot fails to initialize after being turned off, reboot your phone. I only came across this problem once.
Disclaimer/Piece of Mind: Most plans have data cap and tethering may and will consume data and possibly incure extra charges. I take no responsibility for what you do to your phone or consequences from said mod. :good:
Why is s off required? I'm trying to do this with my 510 and I hope the procedure is similar.
Bobby060 said:
Why is s off required? I'm trying to do this with my 510 and I hope the procedure is similar.
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S-OFF is required to remove the write protection. I tried 5+ times to do this without S-off and every time it reverted back after rebooting. When you purchase S-OFF, it lets you save it permanently. $25 is a small price to pay to have tethering unlocked.
If you can make it work with S-on then I'll edit the OP. In my experience trying to write to the system will reboot the phone.
Bobby060 said:
Why is s off required? I'm trying to do this with my 510 and I hope the procedure is similar.
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Let me know how it goes.
Isnt there a kernel that removed the write protect?
It doesn't work on my 510. I don't have soff, but I have a custom kernel with write protection removed, so the change persists across boot. Goodness, I'd hoped this would solve my problem.
godkillerz223 said:
Isnt there a kernel that removed the write protect?
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Its never worked for me. That's why I say S-off, it makes things so much easier.
godkillerz223 said:
Isnt there a kernel that removed the write protect?
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the Jmz kernel does remove the write protection, and if you can deal with the various bugs that come along with it, than you'll be fine. Personally, I couldn't handle the periodic freezing so I ponied up the $25.
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If you can make it work with S-on then I'll edit the OP. In my experience trying to write to the system will reboot the phone.
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I changed it and it didnt reboot the phone but it needs reboot to stick (i think) and it doesnt stay at "0"
Can someone with jmz kernel please give it a shot? I dont use it anymore but bugs seemed to be minimal when i was running old firmware. Thanks.
$25 for this phone is a little steep. If it meant even one good custom rom id fork it over but Im thinking the price tag makes more sense for the flagship users. However, im still looking for a good reason...
KLit75 said:
I changed it and it didnt reboot the phone but it needs reboot to stick (i think) and it doesnt stay at "0"
Can someone with jmz kernel please give it a shot? I dont use it anymore but bugs seemed to be minimal when i was running old firmware. Thanks.
$25 for this phone is a little steep. If it meant even one good custom rom id fork it over but Im thinking the price tag makes more sense for the flagship users. However, im still looking for a good reason...
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Unless your S-off the changes won't stick during a reboot, I'm surprised the phone even let you get that far, as far as modifying the XML file. I'm working on a debloated ROM with this mod cooked in. Anybody want to test it for me? I'll upload it now to my drop box.
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Unless your S-off the changes won't stick during a reboot, I'm surprised the phone even let you get that far, as far as modifying the XML file. I'm working on a debloated ROM with this mod cooked in. Anybody want to test it for me? I'll upload it now to my drop box.
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Yes. It let me edit it--there might be a mod im using that allows that? But went right back to 3 after reboot.
KLit75 said:
Yes. It let me edit it--there might be a mod im using that allows that? But went right back to 3 after reboot.
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My internet was shut off for a few days so I was desperate to find out how to use my phone as a hot spot, I knew there was a way. This was the only working solution I was able to find.
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If you can make it work with S-on then I'll edit the OP. In my experience trying to write to the system will reboot the phone.
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Just playing around...this does work with jmz kernel. I flashed the deodexed rom last night and its way too early but no bugs so far. Instead of kk sd fix i used twrp manager and applied the sd patch. Im also using seeder.apk (which is free right now) The rom has busybox built in so installing your own could exacerbate bugs, maybe?
Most of the bugs i experienced with the kernel were tied somehow to the audio jack. That seemed to trigger crazy behavior like auto calling, voice google searches.
Tethering is good to have but my data plan sucks. I was hoping to use it as sort of a bridge for weak wifi spots but i find the wifi on the 610 is much slower than even older devices i own.
This setup probably wont be ideal for daily use but i feel like this would be a really good phone if it had some development.
I'm running stock, rooted with Xposed. No problems here. I've read people having various issues with JMZ Kernel.
Yea this phone is slow, a good Lollipop ROM would do wonders for the 610.
AT&T HTC Desire in Venezuela
i bought this phone, and im crazy trying to get sd fix, s-off and wifi tethering enable plz somebody help me, i already unlcok the bootloader trought hctdev and fastboot, i rooted but i can do tethering and i need it to share internet on my tablet for work. there's no a zip custom rom with all the fixes we need for this model? plz help me!
victormnavaso said:
i bought this phone, and im crazy trying to get sd fix, s-off and wifi tethering enable plz somebody help me, i already unlcok the bootloader trought hctdev and fastboot, i rooted but i can do tethering and i need it to share internet on my tablet for work. there's no a zip custom rom with all the fixes we need for this model? plz help me!
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If you get s-off from sunshine, I think it'll unlock and root, but I believe you need to be locked and unrooted first. I'm not s-off so not certain. Once you are s-off, the WiFi tethering is simple. The one stipulation is it costs $25--a lot IMO since we really have no development on this phone.
If you read my earlier post in this thread, I was able to enable WiFi tethering and write to sdcard with s-on by flashing the jmz and stock deodexed firmware and jmz kernel which removes write protection. Most people don't do that because lots of bugs have been reported. So if you're willing to pay, checkout sunshine installer.
Btw--its been about a week and my phone has been fine (no freezes and no erratic behavior when plugged into audio jack) Its not super fast but this phone wasn't really fast to start. Your results may differ. My setup procedure is a little different. Instead of kk sdcard fix I use twrp manager and set the patch. The rest was a lot of trial & error and I lost track of exactly how I arrived here, but its been working fine for me.
I can't buy Sunshine form root ninja!
The support of ninjaroot told me that i can't buy their products for ppl of Venezuela, even having amazon gift card credit. y really need to unlock this awfull at&t limits, the freedom of using tethering and can use Quickpic as a default gallery and erase pics, further can manage the sd card, install xposed and all the stuff we can do in a normal Android phone. Plz if you can help me wiht this? it's really hard for us my country to get cellphones from US due ecommerce restrictions in our credit cards. how can i sd fix via twrp as you did?
victormnavaso said:
The support of ninjaroot told me that i can't buy their products for ppl of Venezuela, even having amazon gift card credit. y really need to unlock this awfull at&t limits, the freedom of using tethering and can use Quickpic as a default gallery and erase pics, further can manage the sd card, install xposed and all the stuff we can do in a normal Android phone. Plz if you can help me wiht this? it's really hard for us my country to get cellphones from US due ecommerce restrictions in our credit cards. how can i sd fix via twrp as you did?
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That sucks. Well the only thing I can tell you is what I used right here in this forum BUT while I know the kernel works on international version, I'm not 100% on the stock deodexed rom. Do whatever research you can. Click "downloads" in the first post then pick our phone from the list. Flash the rom (which is rooted and has busy box built in, then flash the kernel)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-610/development/att-stock-rooted-odex-deodex-t2848774
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That sucks. Well the only thing I can tell you is what I used right here in this forum BUT while I know the kernel works on international version, I'm not 100% on the stock deodexed rom. Do whatever research you can. Click "downloads" in the first post then pick our phone from the list. Flash the rom (which is rooted and has busy box built in, then flash the kernel)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-610/development/att-stock-rooted-odex-deodex-t2848774
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I'm willing to try that, so tell me something where i can download the patch of sdcar writing to patch via twrp?
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Hey guyz i just flash the jmz kernel and did the guide to unlock tether, installed xposed and now i got tethering unlocked adn can erase things from sd card, im using quickpic as my default gallery and very happy thanks for doing this possible! MANY THANKS! :laugh: