I'm running both and noticed that the Warthog is has a higher load and uses slightly more battery than the F4. In Govnah both CPU is shown but on the F4 both cores run at the same Freq. whereas the Warthog CPU2 idles more. Anymore notice this? Response and speedwise it seems like they're really close. The Max Freq. on both are the same whereas the F4 Min. is 432 and Warthog runs 192.
Comments?
No one has anything to say about the two? If this has been discussed before can someone point me to it? I tried googling it but not much comes up....that or my googling skills are lacking...
Best I could come up with man.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:PsychoKernel
just4sc said:
I'm running both and noticed that the Warthog is has a higher load and uses slightly more battery than the F4. In Govnah both CPU is shown but on the F4 both cores run at the same Freq. whereas the Warthog CPU2 idles more. Anymore notice this? Response and speedwise it seems like they're really close. The Max Freq. on both are the same whereas the F4 Min. is 432 and Warthog runs 192.
Comments?
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i have tried F4 and F15... the only adv of F4 is it's using the Dual Core fully but the F15 is based out of single core...other core will be running in ideal status always...
unless otherwise you're running a Game or resource hungry appln, you can't compare the difference...
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Hi!
While playing around with my hero more and more I've been experimenting with different roms, kernels and cpu clock speeds. While doing that I've been trying to keep below 710MHz, but after a while i thought "what the hell..." and kept it at 710MHz for a long time. At 710MHz my hero seems to work fine, a little faster then it used to be, and a little more battery consuming. My noob question is since most of the post in here says " be careful going all the way up to 710MHz" almost no one suggest trying anything above, am I doing something wrong? Is the increased performance and the decreased battery life all in my head? I'm using setcpu 2.24, been tested on most roms here, both flykernel 12 and 13 and LV 5.0 and LX 6.2 ++++, and of course i always give it SU.
also, if i'm doing this right, my phone does not get particularly hot at 710MHz, so could i go even higher?
There are differences in devices. Mine for example freezes totally at 710.
I have been using my overclocked hero for a year now, running at 730mhz with no problems, my maximum is 748mhz but approximately after 20 minutes of runing at so high freq the hero was doing really some weird things..730mhz is my ok freq where I can run it without freezing up or any errors, the back cover gets little hot only when doing hards tasks..oh and, dont enable auto apply overclock on boot when testing the highest overclock, did that you dont want to be there when hero freezes up I just pulled out the battery...
I can overcloking my Hero with no problem upto 748.8mHz. If i use 760mHz my Hero are freeze...
Overclocked to 729, it works fine but eats battery like anything. Speeds above 614 are too much for our Heros poor battery.
I'm overclocking to 691, cause it freezes at 710.
If the cpu is really running at 691 for a while it goes upto 40°C. Just use a temperature profile in setcpu.
691 Mhz - 176 Mhz too, moderately stable.
Mine is stable up to 729 MHz
Mine freezes at 710MHz. For everyday use i have 614/352 Screen On settings
172-691Mhz Smartass is good idea. My hero is freeze at 729Mhz.
I am not that aggressive, 352 - 633 MHz. So far very stable.
690 is optimal for me, it does not freeze at 710 but it becames slower if I do a benchmark.
264-633 smartassv2 works perfectly for me. I found at 710 it was a little faster/smoother, but my battery lasted less than a day - using gps at 710 would also cause my phone to reboot.
Mine works till 691, at 710 freezes after few minutes.
As I noticed, when I change governor in setcpu to anything except hotplug the system information states that: We have only one core! WHAT? WHY?
I know, it can be a delay between measures, and some of the governors are reducing freq and so on. I know how could that work. Hot plug can disable the second core, and when i measured MFLOPS with linpack (gov: performance) that clearly shows same score with multithread maybe a bit less than single thread. I had only one active core... Something not clear sometimes. I repeated the tests with every governor and I don't have any idea whats wrong with them, sometimes the second is just out of usage, sometimes working well.
Sorry if that not enough clear.
Anybody else can check that?
I just benchmarked with linpack and also get about the same scores for multi and single-Thread performance. That is indeed very strange. I tried changing back to hotplug but still got the same score for multi and single-Thread performance.
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I removed "set on boot" in SetCPU and rebooted, THAN i got dual core performance again with a score of about 55 MFLOPS. I replaced SetCPU with no-frills CPU control, changing back to hotplug allways seem to work there instantly. Hotplug makes the device freeze randomly and anything else makes it half as fast. I'm beginning to dislike my Archos Tab...
My CPU's temp is ~ 49 degree when do nothing, but when i do something it will come to > 53 degree .
I flashed all Custom rom to find one can help my cpu temp is low but .. it still high.
This is hardware problem ?
I'm getting mid-30s when idle. I suggest trying another kernel.
lamx710 said:
My CPU's temp is ~ 49 degree when do nothing, but when i do something it will come to > 53 degree .
I flashed all Custom rom to find one can help my cpu temp is low but .. it still high.
This is hardware problem ?
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Which ROM and which kernel are you using?
Also, undervolting will reduce temperatures substantially.
Im using CM9 beta-0.4.5.1-cm-9.0.0-RC0-olympus-UNOFFICIAL-signed.zip
Kernel 2.6.32.59-MB860-CM9-gf77ecf8
Jokersax
This kernel may doesnt support Voltages. Open SetCPU i not see Voltages tab.
Can u suggest me some other kernel ?
Try faux123's kernel, and then do some undervolting.
I changed to faux but when change some voltage setting then my phone hang and reboot many times. temp still so high ( i only set -50mhz). Any sugest ?
Try -25 and use profiles for screen off. Don't forget that there's a 100mV delta limit for each step. Are you overclocking your phone?
My current settings with faux123's kernel:
Screen off profile: 216 min - 456 max
Voltages:
1000 MHz - 950 mV
912 MHz - 900 mV
750 MHz - 800 mV
608 MHz - 700 mV
456 MHz - 600 mV
312 MHz - 500 mV
216 MHz - 400 mV
A note about undervolting: not every cpu is the same. You might be able to get an even lower undervolt, or you might not even be able to undervolt at all. Just make sure you uncheck "Set on Boot" until you get a 100% stable undervolt.
Edit: While you're at it, take a look at the "Time in State" info. What frequency does your phone spend most of its time at? If it spends a lot of time on higher frequencies, there's your culprit for high temps.
lamx710 said:
I changed to faux but when change some voltage setting then my phone hang and reboot many times. temp still so high ( i only set -50mhz). Any sugest ?
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Which Faux kernel did you flash? You should be using the 1.0GHz kernel. If you are using that and have mild UV then you should have no heat (or battery life) issues. Also, you need to check for any apps which are causing your CPU to be continually under load when it should be at idle. This could also account for higher than normal heat.
Your phone should be able to handle -50 Hz at all frequencies, as that is a very low UV.
quetzalcoatl2435 said:
Try -25 and use profiles for screen off. Don't forget that there's a 100mV delta limit for each step. Are you overclocking your phone?
My current settings with faux123's kernel:
Screen off profile: 216 min - 456 max
Voltages:
1000 MHz - 950 mV
912 MHz - 900 mV
750 MHz - 800 mV
608 MHz - 700 mV
456 MHz - 600 mV
312 MHz - 500 mV
216 MHz - 400 mV
A note about undervolting: not every cpu is the same. You might be able to get an even lower undervolt, or you might not even be able to undervolt at all. Just make sure you uncheck "Set on Boot" until you get a 100% stable undervolt.
Edit: While you're at it, take a look at the "Time in State" info. What frequency does your phone spend most of its time at? If it spends a lot of time on higher frequencies, there's your culprit for high temps.
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Ok i will try and will report soon . Tks
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Which Faux kernel did you flash? You should be using the 1.0GHz kernel. If you are using that and have mild UV then you should have no heat (or battery life) issues. Also, you need to check for any apps which are causing your CPU to be continually under load when it should be at idle. This could also account for higher than normal heat.
Your phone should be able to handle -50 Hz at all frequencies, as that is a very low UV.
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I flash Faux 1.0 GHz kernel (my old post) like u said. I will try all you suggest then report soon tks guys
I tried all you suggest but still automatic off (or idle cause i press power button my phone dont start ... it like my phone is hanging ) then I must off my battery to power on my phone.
The average temp around 44 degrees or higher ..
What ROM are you using, and did this problem occur on stock?
I'm using CM9 ICS
Sometime with stock rom, this problem appear. I think it from my phone's hardware. When CPU temp > 50 degree it happen.
Today,
after talk over skype,
view some webpage,
it's seem abit hot (about 45 degree).
After all, i lock screen then put to my trouser. When come to other place I open it, press power and nothing come to screen like its still running so i must off my battery to turn on again.
Flashed many rom from stock to custom but never see one can make me feel happy ). If it from hardware so poor me
Sounds like a hardware issue. Do you happen to use any type of case on your phone?
rieslav canopy
I dont use any case on my phone (sorry my bad english, "case" in your question mean protect item ? ).
I just found, when my phone is hot, it will shutdown.
Today when my battery < 15%. My phone suddenly running smoothly @@. I dont know why.
trying to find a way to help my phone run ok
Hi,
The new games started to demand more cpu and games like Modern Combat 4 lags as hell when cpu is 800 mhz, when it is 1.2 ghz the game is smooth. I am experiencing this problem on a few more games.
I installed an app that shows cpu temp, when cpu reaches 65 celcius, it downclocks to 800 mhz, when it becames 60 celcius, it becomes 1.2 ghz again, and this problem makes major lags. The problem is the phone reached 65 celcius not more than 1 minute and impossible to play without lag. Undervolting is not a solution and my gpu is at stock speed and voltages.
Is there any solution to lock it to 1.2 ghz. Even I set the cpu to performance governor or set the min scaling speed to 1.2 ghz, it still downclocks to 800 mhz. I think increasing the throttling threshold to 80 celcius or sth should solve the situation.
Use an app like setcpu(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking) you need root but you can just set up a profile that if modern combat 4 is running then min CPU=1200 and max= 1200
1Chef said:
Use an app like setcpu(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking) you need root but you can just set up a profile that if modern combat 4 is running then min CPU=1200 and max= 1200
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Thank you, but the phone is stubborn about downclocking to 800 mhz. If the phone reaches 65 celcius, there is no way (that I found) to prevent downclocking to 800 mhz.
There's something odd with Snapdragon 625 on RN4 (according to me).
I have noticed that the maximum clock is half of the times coming down to 1.6GHz or less instead of 2.0GHz, especially when charging when the phone is warm (but temperature isn't high enough to trigger down clocking-- around 30-40 degree Celsius).
This also happens when the phone is not charging and I am doing some task like using apps or playing games when the phone's hardly heating up (afterall, SD 625 is known for its no heating issues).
It looks like whenever I am doing some task that doesn't involve much processing, the max clock comes down (but when I am performing some CPU intensive task such as installing an app, the max clock stays at 2GHz).
I am using interactive governor. PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT THE MAXIMUM CPU CLOCK WHICH IS AFFECTED IN MY CASE. Using Kernel Adiutor to reset max freq. to 2GHz hardly works. It seems like the system ignores my clock settings. Even if i set the governor to performance, the max clock still keeps coming down and going up.
What's the deal with this processor?
Also, all the 8 cores are ALWAYS ON. There's no option for CPU hotplug in Kernel Adiutor.
Please someone shed some light over this.
CPU is thermal throttling not only when CPU is hot, but also when battery is hot. Also it is using a frequency which it needs, if it's using 1.6ghz it means it doesnt need more for whatever you have been doing.
k3lcior said:
CPU is thermal throttling not only when CPU is hot, but also when battery is hot. Also it is using a frequency which it needs, if it's using 1.6ghz it means it doesnt need more for whatever you have been doing.
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It also happens when the phone is not warm/hot.
Please note that I'm not talking about the current frequency that is being used, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE MAX FREQ that is pulled down and up when I am working (even when just simply using the phone for little tasks which doesn't really heat the phone up).
While using any governor, the max freq should stick to what it is set to and the current freq varies. But here, the max freq is varying along with the current freq. Is this some feature or what?
If this is actually due to heating, is the management so bad that even 35-40 degree celsius makes the CPU throttle? Generally throttling happens at much higher temperatures.
This is 14nm SoC, it has much lower temperatures but also much lower max temp. (throttling start on lower temps)
You can't heat up this CPU to 60C or more like Snapdragon 8xx for example, because it will shut down.
k3lcior said:
This is 14nm SoC, it has much lower temperatures but also much lower max temp. (throttling start on lower temps)
You can't heat up this CPU to 60C or more like Snapdragon 8xx for example, because it will shut down.
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LOL means I can't make good use of the 2GHz 8 core CPU for long because it'll heat up and simply throttle down. That's too stupid to have a powerful processor.
i am having heating issue. I found no thread discussing.. I am in Miui9 global beta version. Rooted withMagisk using redwolf twrp. My top part of screen heats in normal usage for 5 minute in wifi/data.I have checked the cpu temp( maximum 42) and battery tem( 36 to 38)..But the screen become hot..any work around? Is it a software or hardware issue? how to resolve it