Now that the Bell Rom/Modem/Kernel are all available. I have a question that I have not seen answered, or at least not in a way that I understand.
With my old phone I used CyanogenMod for about 98% of the time a had my phone (1.5 years). I intend to use it again with the SGS2 but not till the it is a "Stable Mod" I don't like to use the "Experimental Mod" ones.
With that said, what I'm looking to do is have my phone with the same stock OS on the phone that is on it now, but With Root Access. So that I can install Apps that need Root and Delete the Bell installed apps (or even the some Samsung ones) that I don't want. Also I just want to get the ball rolling...
My question is, can this be done? Is this what the post from "Intratech" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 is telling me how to do? With the option to install a third party ROM only "IF" I want to?
Or do I have to install a third party ROM after the phone is rooted because the Bell Stock one will not work.
Thanks,
P.S. I don't know if this matters but I do have a "Jig"
You can do it one of two ways. The easiest would be for you to flash a cf-root kernel which will install and after that you can just flash back the original bell kernel. You can also go the s2 root route by flashing an insecure kernel, running the s2 root app (might have to do it twice for it it work) and then flashing the stock kernel once again. Either way will leave you running stock with root access. The triangle will not appear if you are on the stock kernel. The jig comes in handy by resetting the flash counter.
Cf-root thread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
S2 Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
Just tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 Guide on my (never rooted) SGS2 and didn't work...
The "Flashing Firmware with Odin" part of the instructions worked (i didn't see any thing changed on my phone, but all the checks and PASS and OK was there)
In the next part "Quick Root Guide" when I got to SuperOneClick part it just kept freezing on Part #6... I was using ver. 2.1.1 and then I tryed 2.1 then 1.95 and all did that same thing...
Looks like I'll have to try this Cf-root thing...
Well since Bell uses a KG2 kernel, just flash the CF Root JP_XSG_KG2 kernel from Chainfire's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399 and reflash the stock Bell Kernel. This is probably the closest way of staying to stock while still having root. Not sure if CWM will work, but I'm guessing you only want root with stock.
I'm not sure if Chainfire will release a CF root for the stock Bell kernel (probably will when he gets back from vacation) but if you're impatient and want to get rid of that bloatware, the JP_XSG_KG2 will give you root.
Hey any body here has the Bell Stock ROM
I need to reflash my bell Phone and I need the Bell Stock Rom again.
Thanx
lakikhatri said:
I need to reflash my bell Phone and I need the Bell Stock Rom again.
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From [ROMS]Official i9100 carrier branded firmware download for Odin Flash:
Intratech said:
Bell
Canada
Model GT-I9100M
UGKG2: http://www.multiupload.com/WHKOJ8A5FG
Firmware info: PDA: UGKG2 Phone: UGKG2 CSC: BMCKG2
UGKG2 Stock Kernel:http://www.multiupload.com/43QUKBBK47
Password is: [email protected]
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oinkylicious said:
From [ROMS]Official i9100 carrier branded firmware download for Odin Flash:
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Does anyone out there have working mirrors? :C I need them too.
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Hi all,
A quick question on how easy to roll back (un-root) and put back the stock ROM?
My current ROM is stock Telstra ROM. (just bought the phone today)
PDA: DVKF4
PHONE: DVKF2
CSC: TELKF3
Build Info : Jun 21
I know how to roll back a HTC Desire - by installing the RUU image from HTC or use the PB99IMG.zip install method to remove "root" and put back into std ROM.
I have yet to root my SGS2. Reason to un-root and go back to stock ROM is for warranty purposes. you never know what will happen (for example, my desire decides to dies on me yesterday, had to put back stock ROM to submit for warranty claim).
thank you in advance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Very easy basics are install stock rom removes root and use usb jig to clear custom rom counter .
jje
B3311 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
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thanks for the link, however, i can't seem to find the original kernel.
JJEgan said:
Very easy basics are install stock rom removes root and use usb jig to clear custom rom counter .
jje
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if i do not install any custom rom, therefore, the usb jig is not required, right?
cad_2011 said:
if i do not install any custom rom, therefore, the usb jig is not required, right?
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Nope. Jig is only required to clear the custom Rom counter, in case you have to claim warranty and return the phone to Samsung. And also to force the phone in Download mode, if something bad happens while flashing custom ROM etc.
hey cad,
Made any headway here?
I just bought an SGS2 from Telstra as well and I have a similar phone to yours.
PDA: DVKF4
PHONE: DVKF2
CSC: TELKF3
I too would like to retain the stock kernel, firmware and csc.
If we root with an insecure kernel, how do we go back to stock kernel if it's not downloadable?
Could we just flash another kernel if we are making a warranty claim and hope they don't check?
I assume CSC is where all the Telstra crap is stored and once we get ROOT, we should be able to back this up out of \system
shayne77 said:
hey cad,
Made any headway here?
I just bought an SGS2 from Telstra as well and I have a similar phone to yours.
PDA: DVKF4
PHONE: DVKF2
CSC: TELKF3
I too would like to retain the stock kernel, firmware and csc.
If we root with an insecure kernel, how do we go back to stock kernel if it's not downloadable?
Could we just flash another kernel if we are making a warranty claim and hope they don't check?
I assume CSC is where all the Telstra crap is stored and once we get ROOT, we should be able to back this up out of \system
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nope, mine is still un-root. still waiting for the stock rom to be available. however, i have acquire the "jig".
shayne77 said:
hey cad,
I too would like to retain the stock kernel, firmware and csc.
Could we just flash another kernel if we are making a warranty claim and hope they don't check?
Usual is flash a relevant stock rom or older stock rom and update via Kies.
I assume CSC is where all the Telstra crap is stored and once we get ROOT, we should be able to back this up out of \system
CSC is a file for network settings and does not contain any customized add ons from provider .
jje
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Custom Rom
Hi all I new to all this so could someone point me in the right direction...
1. I need a noob friendly guide to explain what rooting is.
2. How to root.
3 what is odin and all the tools required to root and flash custom firmware.
Video tutorials would be healpful. Im comming from a HTC HD2 but it feels like the explanations were easier to find.
Thanks in advance.
Ebz_09 said:
Hi all I new to all this so could someone point me in the right direction...
1. I need a noob friendly guide to explain what rooting is.
2. How to root.
3 what is odin and all the tools required to root and flash custom firmware.
Video tutorials would be healpful. Im comming from a HTC HD2 but it feels like the explanations were easier to find.
Thanks in advance.
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You could have used the Search for that.
Official Firmware : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
CF-Root + Odin and Kernels : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Guide and information on various things : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
Syrellaris said:
You could have used the Search for that.
Official Firmware : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
CF-Root + Odin and Kernels : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Guide and information on various things : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
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Pity my official firmware is not listed
sent from my phone
(please excuse any typographical errors)
Hello,
i would like some guidance on the rooting side of things. with every page i read im getting more and more confused.
i have installed/flashed litening rom.
ive used the sim unlock tool to unlock my phone.
im confused on all of the unsecure and secure stuff.
i would like my phone back to how i had it when i bought it, without the root access etc.
am i right in thinking that i would need the latest stock secure kernal which i would flash in exactly the same way as i flashed litening? or am i getting the wrong end of the stick.
or would i have to flash the specific three firmware (im not bothered about having all the three stuff on it but if i have to then so be it)
You need to follow Chainfire thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Don't get too much confused, its simple.
BTW- Aren't you already rooted as you are on Litening ROM!
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I am rooted which was an easy process. I just can't get my head around all the different stock firmwares etc.
I would love to unlock my wife's S2 for her but want to know how to get it back to stock after.
Hope that makes sense?
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joelk2 said:
I am rooted which was an easy process. I just can't get my head around all the different stock firmwares etc.
I would love to unlock my wife's S2 for her but want to know how to get it back to stock after.
Flash a stock rom .
Stock Roms .and csc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Firmware is labelled year K 2011 month ABC release number 123
KG3 2011 July 3rd release .
XXX XEU OXA lettering is area of use for that rom .
jje
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ok i downloaded
GT-I9100_XEU_I9100XWKF3_I9100XXKE7_I9100XEUKD1
i couldnt see the KG3 one.
where do i find the csc to go with this?
If you want to get it back to stock "back to how it was when I bought it", don't use any KG firmware unless you're from Poland or Brazil - IIRC, they're the only 2 areas that KG firmware is "official", i.e., flashable via Kies.
Sounds like you'll need a KF firmware. If you can't remember what your firmware originally was, try this:
http://fus.nanzen.se/
- will also tell you your latest available official update.
KG and KH 2.3.4
Rest is 2.3.3
Edit - see you've got KF3 - for your scenario, 99% sure it's the right choice.
ok so ive downloaded that one, it was a self extracting.exe file
i now have a tar file.
do i use odin again and put this tar in the pda part?
Anyone??
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if the package one has one .tar file then yes.
keep in mind you will not have root access after this
Brilliant thanks all
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Also after reverting back to stock roms, do your self a favor and buy a USB JIG (Samsung galaxy S JIG) from ebay for like 10 dollars. You can use this to reset the Binary Counter in Download mode, before you ship of any phone for say Warranty issues
I have been researching the net on this and the posts in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278.
I haven't been able to post in there as I am a new user, but if someone can help me with this, it would be great.
I'm trying to upgrade my firmware to XXKH3 - Android 2.3.4.
My current version is:
PDA: I91000XWKE7
PHONE: I9100XXKE4
CSC: I9100OPSKE4
My Galaxy S II is rooted and it's on the OPTUS network in Australia.
My question is, how should I go about it?
Do I download the XXKH3 Stock Kernel: http://www.multiupload.com/C4DRUIJTLL and place that in PDA and PHONE in Odin?
And for CSC do I get this: Optus OPSKG1 CSC: http://www.multiupload.com/EPWZTIMS1F and place it in CSC?
I want to be able to use the OPTUS network on XXKH3, but without OPTUS bloatware. I'm just not sure which files to get so I can be with OPTUS on an Australian firmware if that makes any sense.
My last question is, would this then wipe my data? Or not?
I appreciate any help on this.
justmiike said:
I have been researching the net on this and the posts in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278.
I haven't been able to post in there as I am a new user, but if someone can help me with this, it would be great.
I'm trying to upgrade my firmware to XXKH3 - Android 2.3.4.
My current version is:
PDA: I91000XWKE7
PHONE: I9100XXKE4
CSC: I9100OPSKE4
My Galaxy S II is rooted and it's on the OPTUS network in Australia.
Why question is, how should I go about it?
Do I download the XXKH3 Stock Kernel: http://www.multiupload.com/C4DRUIJTLL and place that in PDA and PHONE in Odin?
And for CSC do I get this: Optus OPSKG1 CSC: http://www.multiupload.com/EPWZTIMS1F and place it in CSC?
I want to be able to use the OPTUS network on XXKH3, but without OPTUS bloatware. I'm just not sure which files to get so I can be with OPTUS on an Australian firmware if that makes any sense.
My last question is, would this then wipe my data? Or not?
I appreciate any help on this.
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you are referring to the right thread. clear instructions are given on that thread.
choose the PDA option.
CSC has nothing to do with what languages the firmware supports and it will not add keyboard language support either.
You don't have to change the kernel or root or unroot to flash a new stock firmware.
You can then flash the kernel of your choice.
If you want the CF-root KH3 kernel. refer this thread
If you want to flash stock KH3 kernel you can also do that.
as far as operator bloatware is concerned search for operator specific bloatware removal scripts which can be executed using Gscript app . or a simpler option would be to freeze or uninstall the bloatware apps using Titanium back up Pro.
Thank you for the fast reply.
So pretty much all I need to do is put the XXKH3 Stock Kernel in the PDA option and that's it. So the OPTUS network will not be affected correct?
Then root it and I'm done?
Thanks again!
justmiike said:
Thank you for the fast reply.
So pretty much all I need to do is put the XXKH3 Stock Kernel in the PDA option and that's it. So the OPTUS network will not be affected correct?
Then root it and I'm done?
Thanks again!
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Exactly. I did this yesterday.
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Excellent. Thanks.
I guess my last question is, by doing this, putting the XXKH3 in the PDA option, will this wipe my data?
Should I back up?
Back up apps with Titanium Pro
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Alright will do. Thanks for all your help guys!
let me know how you get on,am severely tempted to flash new firmware just for a change!
Hm. I just put XXKH3 Stock Kernel in PDA and flashed it but my phone still says Android 2.3.3. I used the CF-root KH3 kernel as well to root it again.
What do I need to do to get it to Android 2.3.4? Do I have to place it in PHONE as well?
The ROM is 2.3.4, just about any ROM in original development is. What you are trying to flash is kernel. Best of luck.
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justmiike said:
Hm. I just put XXKH3 Stock Kernel in PDA and flashed it but my phone still says Android 2.3.3. I used the CF-root KH3 kernel as well to root it again.
What do I need to do to get it to Android 2.3.4? Do I have to place it in PHONE as well?
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Er, Kernel is kernel and firmware is firmware. Flashing the kernel won't update the firmware, just the kernel.
Alright I think I understand now.
Downloading the package, which should do it and I guess the stock kernel is used to root/rid yourself of the yellow triangle.
jr866gooner said:
let me know how you get on,am severely tempted to flash new firmware just for a change!
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It went well, the phone is working great.
My data didn't get wiped.
Follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278.
Download the XXKH3 package.
I also used Titanium to backup my apps just in case and MyBackup Pro for contacts etc. but haven't needed to use it.
After you flash that (if you want to root the phone) go to this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399 and get CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KH3-v4.1-CWM4.zip. Put that in PDA and flash it.
To get rid of the yellow triangle, follow this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14283369&postcount=2.
That's it. Thanks for all your help guys!
ok so lets say I chose new stock firmware to avoid the triangle,then later wanted to be official,could i plug my phone into kies and updatd to official 2.3.4 without problems?
i would like to try oranges firmware without rooting the device and voiding my warranty!
Intratech said:
Er, Kernel is kernel and firmware is firmware. Flashing the kernel won't update the firmware, just the kernel.
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Understand now, 1 more question my stock rom 2.3.3 it is xwkf1 Singapore version thinking to flash it to the lastest 2.3.4 Europe/ USA rom does it support chinese?
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Well I've googled quite a few key words to see if I could get the answers to my questions and I haven't found too much yet. I have a Bell Galaxy SII that's rooted 2.3.3 Android version. I ended up flashing my kernel long ago as well which gives me the yellow triangle now I don't care about that but i want to make my phone like it was when it came out of the box. I have the original firmware and kernel. What im confused about is there is Odin to flash this and that and then there's dumping the files on your phone and using Clockwordmod. what's the difference? which should I use and what do I flash first? the original Kernel then firmware? or other way around? or does it matter? youtube is nice and all but it shows customs unroots for branded S2's not mine which is Bell im having issues with my tethering disconnecting me from my computer so I think it's best if I revert back to factory since all I do is make phone calls and tether. Thanks guys
PS more info if this helps
Model: GT-I9100M
Android: 2.3.3
Baseband: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100JPKG2-CL342890 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Long story short downlown firmware you want and flash in odin this will be the default firmware without any root..
Nyssa1104 said:
Long story short downlown firmware you want and flash in odin this will be the default firmware without any root..
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thanks, once I do that do I repeat the process in Odin to flash my original kernel as well ? and that should also remove my yellow triangle right?
Philminator said:
thanks, once I do that do I repeat the process in Odin to flash my original kernel as well ? and that should also remove my yellow triangle right?
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No as you have just flashed an original kernel .
Reset custom rom counter with USB Jig .
jje
the moment you flash a stock rom it will contain the stock kernel so you would lose root and all the custom stuff you had, basically what you have is an out of the box device
RorixRebel said:
the moment you flash a stock rom it will contain the stock kernel so you would lose root and all the custom stuff you had, basically what you have is an out of the box device
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perfect thanks im just messing around right now with going back stock to see if that fixes my issue with getting Disconnected when I tether now I wrote all this info down so I can go back and forth over time and experiment with different roms
most of the custom roms do not support tether which sucks, but yeah its part of the fun to flash stuff over and over
agreed with above posters, flash it over and over again until you fully understand how the flashing really work
my sgs2 download counter has reach 16 because I was affraid to use cwm flash, so i went back and forth from original rom to custom rom
Hi guys... tried searching hi and low for the right answer, but didn't get one definitive enough. Bare with me, I have a Galaxy Nexus, but am helping out my wife here who has an i9100M.
First off, I'm well aware of how to use ODIN and the like (as I previously owned the original SGS), so I don't need help with that.
Now.. on to business:
The stock firmware for the i9100m via KIES is 4.0.3. I've noticed that this firmware causes the phone to freeze up at times and she's telling me she didn't experience that under Gingerbread.
So I know there are a whole slew of stock 4.0.4 firmwares out there, unbranded UK's and the like. Just wondering, based on your experiences, which PDA, PHONE, CSC combination for a 4.0.4. rom works best with the i9100m?
I'm aware that I will lose the 'm' designation... not too concerned about that... just want this phone to be smooth as it once was without the lockups but maintaining ICS. Hopefully 4.0.4 actually eliminates that.
Again, I'd prefer the stock firmwares if thats an option.
Thanks guys.
greeced said:
Hi guys... tried searching hi and low for the right answer, but didn't get one definitive enough. Bare with me, I have a Galaxy Nexus, but am helping out my wife here who has an i9100M.
First off, I'm well aware of how to use ODIN and the like (as I previously owned the original SGS), so I don't need help with that.
Now.. on to business:
The stock firmware for the i9100m via KIES is 4.0.3. I've noticed that this firmware causes the phone to freeze up at times and she's telling me she didn't experience that under Gingerbread.
So I know there are a whole slew of stock 4.0.4 firmwares out there, unbranded UK's and the like. Just wondering, based on your experiences, which PDA, PHONE, CSC combination for a 4.0.4. rom works best with the i9100m?
I'm aware that I will lose the 'm' designation... not too concerned about that... just want this phone to be smooth as it once was without the lockups but maintaining ICS. Hopefully 4.0.4 actually eliminates that.
Again, I'd prefer the stock firmwares if thats an option.
Thanks guys.
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You need to read this first about ICS 4.0.4 stock firmware
Thanks, but I'm guessing that had to do with people flashing a new .pit which I never do.... Unless I'm wrong.
Personally I find stock roms not as smooth as custom roms.
If you're willing to try out custom roms, I'll recommend RootBox. Very stable and smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696419
EDIT: Sorry, just realized you were looking for stock firmware. I have a i9100m as well, used XXLPJ to restore my phone when I got stuck in a boot-loop. Didn't really play with stock rom that much, went straight back to custom roms and flashed XXLQ5 modem. I'm with Rogers btw.
Ya I know Stock Roms usually aren't as smooth.. I just find the Stock Firmware, with the Stock recovery, the safest.... And seeing as I don't want my wife yelling at me.. I'd rather it have a stock experience without the lockup/freeze she is now constantly experiencing.
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Thanks, but I'm guessing that had to do with people flashing a new .pit which I never do.... Unless I'm wrong.
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If you are not rooting the device, you should be safe.
XWLPX is the most stable Stock ICS 4.0.4 firmware at the moment
Firmware info:
I9100XWLPX
Base Firmware: I9100XWLPX (4.0.4)
Region: Europe
Country Nordic Countries
Carrier: Unbranded
Build Date: 29 August 2012
Modem: XXLQ6
CSC: NEELP5
Change List: 1068762
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Jokesy said:
If you are not rooting the device, you should be safe.
XWLPX is the most stable Stock ICS 4.0.4 firmware at the moment
Firmware info:
I9100XWLPX
Base Firmware: I9100XWLPX (4.0.4)
Region: Europe
Country Nordic Countries
Carrier: Unbranded
Build Date: 29 August 2012
Modem: XXLQ6
CSC: NEELP5
Change List: 1068762
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So even rooting with a STOCK insecure kernal would have bricking issues?
I've never used CWM and don't plan to.
greeced said:
So even rooting with a STOCK insecure kernal would have bricking issues?
I've never used CWM and don't plan to.
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If you want to Root, use this method
Remember: you must never wipe or backup rom in CWM recovery!
Jokesy said:
If you want to Root, use this method
Remember: you must never wipe or backup rom in CWM recovery!
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Ya.. thanks.. like I said.. I only use the stock recovery... I never understood why people used CWM recovery.. even on my old SGS.
Thanks for the info... hopefully that ROM you suggested works well here in Canada.
greeced said:
Ya.. thanks.. like I said.. I only use the stock recovery... I never understood why people used CWM recovery.. even on my old SGS.
Thanks for the info... hopefully that ROM you suggested works well here in Canada.
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Read that Warning thread I posted to you earlier. Read everything there, it's very important. The only way to stay 100% safe is by flashing a custom kernel.
From what I read, flashing a stock or insecure stock kernal (to root) is the only safe way. Especially in that Nordic firmware thread you mentioned.
Either way, going to try it the insecure kernal root. If it bombs, it still has warranty.
Well as suggested in this thread (thank you) I have installed the latest Nordic ROM (I9100XWLPX) and so far things are fantastic.
I ran the 'Have Brickbug?' app and my wife's phone does show the warning, but ran it anyway... even went as far as clearing cache and wiping in the stock recovery after install just to see if there would be an issue and there wasn't.
I haven't rooted the phone.... yet.... and I may not have to... afterall, its my wife's phone and she doesn't use it the way I use my Nexus. That might change in the future, but with this UNBRANDED ROM, there is no real bloatware, and most of the things I don't want can be disabled anyway.
Time will tell if there are any issues... but thus far no freezes or lockups.
KIES did screw up the back up of her memo's and settings which she is slightly peeved about (wouldn't restore them), but oh well.
Thanks for all the suggestions and help.
Question though... If official Jellybean comes out for the Nordic region, will this 'frankenstein phone' receive an update via KIES? I don't plan on using the OTA update.