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yes or no
Yes.
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Whats guardianbd ?
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Lol why?
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Definitely
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Datsum foony ****e raught thar! LMAO
Yes
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Yes plz
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Yes!
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Give him a break
He is obviously frustrated, to add to his woes, English does not seem like his first language and he is having trouble explaining his issues and understanding what people are trying to tell him. (I draw this conclusion because he keeps trying to activate phone in sprint zone even when he is not in US and many others telling him not to do so )
The only thing I am afraid is that he is going to end up killing his phone.
Ha...finally something to liven up these photon forums...and yes as well
Wifi failure belongs in development, no?
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Wifi failure belongs in development, no?
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No.
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Y'all going to hell lol
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LOL! Don't be too harsh...
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this is a good idea
You've got to give the guy a little break. His main issue arises from the fact that he is in Israel which has a very unusual wireless situation (particularly for an Eastern hemisphere country). Israel has a mix of CDMA and GSM providers. So while others here, say in Italy, have been complaining that in MR5, even if they have the network mode setup to GSM/UMTS only, their phone still tries to find a CDMA signal - annoying but not fatal as it will eventually give up and lock onto a GSM signal after say five or ten minutes of trying to find CDMA. In Israel, because there actually is a CDMA (850Mhz) network, it will actually find and lock onto it and given that his phone has not been 'activated' with Sprint, it won't roam on that network, neither will it register onto his desired GSM network (since it found a CDMA one first). I can see how that would be rather frustrating, given that his phone is rendered useless by the unit not honoring his network mode selection to GSM-only in the settings.
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You've got to give the guy a little break. His main issue arises from the fact that he is in Israel which has a very unusual wireless situation (particularly for an Eastern hemisphere country). Israel has a mix of CDMA and GSM providers. So while others here, say in Italy, have been complaining that in MR5, even if they have the network mode setup to GSM/UMTS only, their phone still tries to find a CDMA signal - annoying but not fatal as it will eventually give up and lock onto a GSM signal after say five or ten minutes of trying to find CDMA. In Israel, because there actually is a CDMA (850Mhz) network, it will actually find and lock onto it and given that his phone has not been 'activated' with Sprint, it won't roam on that network, neither will it register onto his desired GSM network (since it found a CDMA one first). I can see how that would be rather frustrating, given that his phone is rendered useless by the unit not honoring his network mode selection to GSM-only in the settings.
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Actually same is the case with many other Asian countries.
Here in India too we have mix of CDMA and GSM and Photon does find the local CDMA network and tries to register on them and also finds the roaming enabled local CDMA network.
There are easy solutions to it. (How to avoid handsfree registration on every boot and avoid long startup scan )
They have been posted right here in this section.
There are ways to avoid the repeated Sprint Scan on boot as well. : : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238928
That guy's main problem is that he is not even looking at the solutions posted here. And he is not able to understand that he should not even try to register phone with sprint. Neither should he be messing with Sprint Zone.
His WiFi woes are totally different problem. It might as well be combination of bad flash / dud phone and his language barrier.
He is quick to open new threads in wrong forum and calling others wrong when they are just trying to help him by giving possible solutions, but he does not read what has been posted already in other threads and guides. Or he is not able to understand it.
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HI I don't know whether this mystery has already been laid to rest but I am in Toronto with an o2 XDA. I've tried changing bands via bootloader but the thing comes up with no signal. i know there's plenty of signal as I also have an unlocked Motorola v66i which happily works. I am also using a local network GSM simcard (Microcell Fido). The XDA is unlocked... thanks to the geniuses that run this site. does the xda work on 1900 or is it just wishful thinking? I'm back in blighty at the weekend
xdaer
I believe it. But to complete the test, make sure you open and close the SIM cover to completely 'super-reset' the phone part. If found this to be necessary sometimes, also when I switched bands and somehow couldn't get back to 900/1800.
Yes i always make sure I close the tab on the sim slot so the phone resets. I'll try again in a few minutes but I just keeps coming up no signal and doesnt appear to even try to search for a new network
HI all
Having tried the xda a few more times i am at a complete loss. It seems as if it won't even try looking for a signal, just no networks found whatever sim card (O2 UK or a local canadian network sim) is put in. Judging from the number of views and no light shed from anyone else that one must assume the XDA is not triband.
Just one question... is the band switch program mentioned in the all singing update different in design from the one you can do in boot loader?? or is it the same thing just easier to access?
I hate giving up but I guess we will have to start saving up for the XDA II. I certainly hope that it is as hackable its elderly relative.
Being a new member and XDA user I must express my thanks to you lot, the people who make this website so informative, there's so much info here, stuff i never thought you could do with the XDA and it's so satisfying when you can "modify" the settings which are not mentioned in the instruction manual.
Ta and Keep up the good work!
I was wondering if anyone knows how to put straight talk on a cdma android phone. Preferably a Droid Eris. Please any knowledge? Let this be a general question.
Not possible. Go to Howardforums.com and check out the straight talk forums. You need to use a straight talk phone. You might want to check out page plus cellular, they offer bring your own device on verizons network.
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Oh ok well what about boost mobile
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Oh ok well what about boost mobile
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Boost mobile isn't CDMA or GSM
It's IDEN (I think that's the acronym).
Wont work.
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Oh ok well what about boost mobile
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Boost mobile isn't CDMA or GSM
It's IDEN (I think that's the acronym).
Wont work.
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Wrong. Your information is out of date pko. Boost was bought out by Sprint a while back and uses both IDEN and CDMA. The CDMA part is now the actual Sprint network so from what I have heard on various other forums you can get any Sprint phone and run it on Sprint prepaid (Boost). They have an unlimited everything plan for $60/mo. Or better yet you can get a Sprint 450 minute plan for less and get unlimited texting and data I believe.
Well now I've got boost with full evdo network. Not 1xevdo full evdo. Anyone that wants to know how I did it I will tell you if I see a request I am tired of uptight people hiding and keeping secret thing that people wanna know.
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Well now I've got boost with full evdo network. Not 1xevdo full evdo. Anyone that wants to know how I did it I will tell you if I see a request I am tired of uptight people hiding and keeping secret thing that people wanna know.
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I kind of have an idea but please email me the rouht u took
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just wondering.
if any one sucessfully "flashed" a vzw or spcs phone over to straight talk
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just wondering.
if any one sucessfully "flashed" a vzw or spcs phone over to straight talk
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I'm waiting for this to happen too.
Straight talk is just Verizon.
Just really cheap.
it won't happen. I have heard Straight-talk has an esn white-list of phones sold for Straight-talk. Phones not on the list can't access the network, even if the same model as a phone they sell. But if you are near wifi most of your day, page plus is a better deal anyway.
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it won't happen. I have heard Straight-talk has an esn white-list of phones sold for Straight-talk. Phones not on the list can't access the network, even if the same model as a phone they sell. But if you are near wifi most of your day, page plus is a better deal anyway.
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other than esn hacking then, this is impossible.
Darn.
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Well now I've got boost with full evdo network. Not 1xevdo full evdo. Anyone that wants to know how I did it I will tell you if I see a request I am tired of uptight people hiding and keeping secret thing that people wanna know.
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You are contributing to this problem and should go on your way.
Anyway who wants to be pm'd to share their methods is either selling something, spamming people, or simply a selfish person who has no business on a community forum.
not hackin more like clonin/donor
if i got a straight talk phone already. cant i just have that one as a donor for my evo 3d or my eris htc. i dont think im hacking since i own both evo3d and eris htc both with clean esn... and the straight talk one i own it to and its clean... is it more like modifying...right???????
if people want an Eris like phone on straight talk, just get the Samsung. Its better than the Eris anyway. Plus no hacking...
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if i got a straight talk phone already. cant i just have that one as a donor for my evo 3d or my eris htc. i dont think im hacking since i own both evo3d and eris htc both with clean esn... and the straight talk one i own it to and its clean... is it more like modifying...right???????
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You need a ST donor phone, yeah, but you should never turn it on or activate it, just need it for the MEID. if you already activated it you're SOL, need a new donor.
For Anyone who cares
Let me start off with saying, I have been screwed over by VZW far too many times to allow them to continue pliaging my pockets. I'm currently working on converting my Verizon (CDMA) Smart phones (HTC Incredible; 1st Gen Android; iPhone 4) over to straight talk.
Now for all you nay sayers, who, for the longest time have made claims that it can not be done; well I tell you it can. I know it's a cliche, but as people have said before, "where there's a will, there is a way!"
This will involve a very intimate understanding of all the mobile networks there are, and, the different networks Straight Talk uses. For anyone who is currently pondering the question "Can I flash/spoof, or otherwise get an AT&T phone on a CDMA network?" The answer is and always will be NO! This will never change. The only exception to the rule is the iPhone4s. This is due in part, to the fact the iPhone 4s was originally designed to be a world phone. This means that the iPhone 4s has the capabilities to switch to CDMA from GSM and vice versa.
If Straight Talk does have a white list of ESNs that have acess to the network, then that would be a tiny problem. I say tiny problem because it can be overcome. This comes down to legalities though. In order to get any CDMA phone (to include verizon phones) onto the straight talk network, you will first have to buy a Straight Talk (CDMA) smart phone. Next you'll have to unlock your current Verizon phone (or any other CDMA network phone, i.e. Sprint, Boost, etc.) from the current carrier. Then you'll need to spoof your IMEI and ESN to what ever your current Straight Talk phone's IMEI/ESN is. You should be able to find some software to assist with this, by doing a google search (specific site will follow in my next thread.
Spoofing both the IMEI and ESN are very important, as the ESN is unique to the IMEI. Essentially, you are fooling the network into thinking that the phone accessing the network is the one you bought from Straight Talk. Another reason for this is so that VZW never catches the on to what you're doing, considering they monitor the data usage of each phone on thier network. If they notice an IMEI from the phone previously on thier network, now with a new carrier who offers cheaper services, they will cut and block you from their network.
(The following thread is a concept in progress. If anyone else thinks they have another/easier way to do it, please feel free to comment)
All questions are welcome, however, if you lack a basic understanding of the cellular technology or the information flow through the mobile networks, I will probably ignore your question. (SO GOOGLE IT!)
Hint
Check this out. Search can be your friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210240&highlight=straight+talk
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I know this is old but just reading around thought id post, i just bought an atrix 2 online an at/t phone and got straight talk last week, and all you need is a GSM phone on bands 850 and 1900 mhz thru T-mobile at/t or unlocked and your good, they dont do cdma because it gets complicated if you use anyhing then the phones they sell. But i can report on my "4g'' phone which is HSPA+ i get 8mbp/s up and 2 mbp/s down in my area, so great service!
i'd suggest page plus - its also on the verizon network... nothing special needed, just a clean esn eris - call pageplus and they'll activate you for free, free $2 to get you started and then all you do is buy pins to refill service.
also, you can load cricket prl and some more to get cricket working...
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I know this is old but just reading around thought id post, i just bought an atrix 2 online an at/t phone and got straight talk last week, and all you need is a GSM phone on bands 850 and 1900 mhz thru T-mobile at/t or unlocked and your good, they dont do cdma because it gets complicated if you use anyhing then the phones they sell. But i can report on my "4g'' phone which is HSPA+ i get 8mbp/s up and 2 mbp/s down in my area, so great service!
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Dear EVO 4g LTE owners,
At the moment I own a Samsung Captivate, I imported it from the USA more then a year ago. I'm actually quite fed up with it, it has a lot of speed issues and other issues like randomly turning itself off.
I really want to have an EVO 4g LTE, but since they don't sell it in my country, I'm forced to buy it through eBay. I often see phones with a bad ESN.
My question is if I can use it here for calling and data internet(we have GSM networks here)?
Can I unlock it, so I can put my own sim card in it?
Oh and will I have warranty on it?
Does anybody know if it has Dutch(Nederlands) (NO NOT DEUTSCH) language on it?
By the way; if I'd buy it, I'd flash it out of the box
The 4G LTE is CDMA and LTE, so it won't work on the GSM network in Rotterdam. Also, there is no user accessbile SIM card slot like other LTE devices, so you definitely wouldn't be able to swap out the SIM. Also, I'm pretty sure ESNs that are flagged as bad won't work on the carrier to begin with because they reported stolen or otherwise tagged as bad because of unpaid bills on the account or something. Maybe that wouldn't affect your service if you used a different carrier, but that's a moot point here, you won't be able to use this phone on any other carrier to begin with.
The LTE doesn't have a SIM slot that would allow you to use it on a GSM network. The only SIM that it has is embedded and inaccessible without taking the phone apart and even then, I don't think it's as simple as just popping yours in.
Edit: ^Beat me to it.
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Thanks for replying,
Hmm I didn't read the specs well on PA I see. My network (Tele 2) provides LTE, but only in the Amsterdam area...
It won't work. It is designed to work on Sprint towers exclusively.
I have seen options to have it work on other US networks(boost, cricket, etc). Not for anything international though.
Consider a HTC One X as the exact same option.
Good luck.
Look for an International HTC One X in your area. Same phone, different look.
We have the one X here, I don't like that phone
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We have the one X here, I don't like that phone
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This :3
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JigsterNL said:
We have the one X here, I don't like that phone
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Dam all bad
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JigsterNL said:
We have the one X here, I don't like that phone
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Its pretty much the same phone besides the microsd slot and tad bit bigger battery
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Its pretty much the same phone besides the microsd slot and tad bit bigger battery
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I appreciate all of your advice, but I already said I don't want that phone. To me that phone isn't the same
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ESN dummy, really need help.
I'm getting a great deal on eBay for a Galaxy S5 on Sprint. It has a clean ESN, I checked it, however I dont know if the phone is unlocked. Will I be able to pop in an Indian GSM sim card into the phone and use it without any restriction?
If you have any skill flashing phones [and have a donor phone], I would recommend flashing the bad esn Evo 4g LTE to PagePlus. That's what I did.
I acheived 3g data too, though that part was hard.
If you're interested in this, let me know and I can try to post some of the guides/links I used [I used several].
I'm a noob here, but other places i'm not. I have read VERY many posts and the gist of owning a thunderbolt is that it only work(ed) on CDMA VZ so it is not compatible with GSM although it has a SIM card because its is/was locked to VZ only frequencies.
Just to make sure, I called VZ to attempt to get an unlock code saying I was going on a trip overseas and needed my phone to work. I was told that if I upgraded via the OTA to ICS, my device would then be compatible with GSM and I could simply use any SIM card in my phone and get it to work.
What I am trying to do is move over to straightalk away from VZ.
Instead of unrooting, I flashed the radios and ROM available on this site and ICS is up and running.
So has anyone tried straight talk yet on ICS?
That doesn't sound right to me but I would be interested in finding out whether or not it works. From what I understood about the antenna in this phone is that it is locked in on the 700mhz band at a hardware level. Also there are no settings to change to GSM in the network settings.
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Hmmm. Don't know why tech support would lie though -- especially when I waited online for about 30 minutes throughout the conversation. I've been a customer since 1997. He even said, after I switched to ICS, simply insert new SIM and I'm ready to go.
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That doesn't sound right to me but I would be interested in finding out whether or not it works. From what I understood about the antenna in this phone is that it is locked in on the 700mhz band at a hardware level. Also there are no settings to change to GSM in the network settings.
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They may not be lying but rather don't know what they are talking about lol. They are wrong all the time. Just because we have a sim doesn't mean that putting a gsm sim in makes it possible to use on other networks. Give it a try maybe they finally did make it possible. Like I said I thought at a hardware level this phone was permitted from using gsm bands.
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RE: Thunderbolt to straight talk
Granted, they may be wrong. But, all the many hours of reading I have done, says that CDMA only phones don't have SIM cards and my TB does. And per another posts GSM in the USA operates on more frequencies than abroad. Why would HTC create a phone with a SIM card if there was no reason because it was only CDMA?
Regardless, I purchased a ST SIM and an unlimited plan to try out. I'll post back after I see if I wasted my $$$ or not.
The LTE frequency Verizon uses is actually a GSM which is one reason. Verizon owns the upper c block of the 700mhz spectrum. Also, because Verizon is originally a CDMA carrier they had to use another antenna in all LTE phones in order for them to function. The LTE antenna uses data only. It is not equipped to make phone calls unless a phone call is already in progress in which case the phone is routed through the LTE antenna and is then made over the data connection much like VoIP.
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disconnecktie is right, the Thunderbolt can not connect to GSM services. The sim card is not a GSM sim card, its is a 4g LTE sim card. Just because its called a sim and looks similar, does not mean they are the same. The guy you spoke with on the phone probably knew nothing about the Thunderbolt and just assumed that because it has a sim card it would connect to GSM networks.
understandably.
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disconnecktie is right, the Thunderbolt can not connect to GSM services. The sim card is not a GSM sim card, its is a 4g LTE sim card. Just because its called a sim and looks similar, does not mean they are the same. The guy you spoke with on the phone probably knew nothing about the Thunderbolt and just assumed that because it has a sim card it would connect to GSM networks.
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"The LTE antenna uses data only. It is not equipped to make phone calls unless a phone call is already in progress in which case the phone is routed through the LTE antenna and is then made over the data connection much like VoIP."
So theoretically, if there is an LTE only antenna....how does a call get routed regularly when LTE networks (such as 1G and 3G) occur when LTE network isn't available to pass the information over the data connection? More than one antenna?
I'm not expecting this card to work in and of itself. I'm going to swap out another GSM to see if after ICS upgrade, it is actually opened as promised. Now if it doesn't have the requisite antenna, that's understandable, but in that case, why theoretically couldn't I just get a GSM antenna and swap it out for the CDMA one? Can't be any worse than replacing a wireless card in a laptop?
Based upon the "answer" given to me by VZ tech support, I have to wonder if there really is a different antenna or simply the "sim" card installed locks it into the frequency -- and the OS lock(ed) into the sim card previously. A SIm card is essentially what allows you to communicate with a carrier afterall.
Definitely interested if this works, thanks for attempting this
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All the LTE sim does is authenticate your phone on the network. That is the reason *228 is no longer needed.
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The thunderbolt does not support GSM. It has 3 radios, two 3g cdma which enables svdo or simultaneously voice and data over 3g. FYI some new 4g phones won't do this. The LTE is data only and no phone calls are placed over LTE on any phone for vzw. VZW is not setup for voip yet and that won't start until at least 2014. The thunderbolt is not global ready even with ics. There is no apn info to edit. This all has been discussed many times over the last two years.
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Just to clarify I wasn't saying the thunderbolt uses VoIP but that svdo is similar is all.
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Just to clarify I wasn't saying the thunderbolt uses VoIP but that svdo is similar is all.
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I'm no cell tech and I get what you were trying to say. I apologize the last part of my post was a little rude. I don’t think voip and svdo are even close, I admit I could be wrong. Voip uses a data connection to place calls while svdo uses the cellular connection for calls and data. If you place the phone into airplane mode, connect to wifi you would not be able to place a call. If you had voip you'd be able to place a call. I know many carriers offer some sort of 3g to network extender that creates a similar type of connection.
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Svdo also makes it so that calls can be placed over 4g when it is present which is like VoIP. Either way I know it isn't exactly the same but was merely using VoIP for a comparison.
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Svdo also makes it so that calls can be placed over 4g when it is present which is like VoIP. Either way I know it isn't exactly the same but was merely using VoIP for a comparison.
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In my original post above I incorrectly used VoIP when I should have used VoLTE, I knew what i wanted to say, but used the wrong terms which can lead to confusion and this is all to the best of my understanding
The Thunderbolt as with all 3G cell phones make phones calls over 1x voice network while data is handled by 3G network. The thunderbolt does not make any phone calls over 3G or LTE, it has multiple radios which allow SVDO, a 1x for voice calls, a 3G radio, and a LTE radio. Calls are placed over 1x and data is handled by 3G or LTE whichever is available.
The link below has a good discussion and more clarification on the Thunderbolt when it was first released.
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunde...ort-voice-over-lte-when-verizon-launches.html
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The thunderbolt does not support GSM. It has 3 radios, two 3g cdma which enables svdo or simultaneously voice and data over 3g. FYI some new 4g phones won't do this. The LTE is data only and no phone calls are placed over LTE on any phone for vzw. VZW is not setup for voip yet and that won't start until at least 2014. The thunderbolt is not global ready even with ics. There is no apn info to edit. This all has been discussed many times over the last two years.
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I realize that it has been "talked" about. But based upon conversations with VZ support perhaps it was time to rehash it based upon what I was told.
As far as the APN to edit -- after ICS update (non over the air -- the one provided here). See screenshot. There is even a folder created on the SD called APN Backup restore.
My phone is rooted using revolutionary and running the ICS deodexed, etc. found on xda-developers.
Based upon what I was told by VZ tech support, I purchased a ST test SIM with unlimited service. I installed it today and get SIM card is from an unknown source. I googled that and it appears to be locked. I thought I was unlocked and rooted using revolutionary. But now I question that. So am I truly unlocked like I thought I was? I then tried getting the unlock code using fastboot as per instructions on HTC's development site using oem get_identifier_token waiting for device, and I get stuck at "waiting for device" with no information ever coming up. The only way I appear to be able to communicate w device using ADB is by letting the phone boot then connecting it via usb using debugging mode, and always awake, then it appears as a device, but that's where I get that waiting for device message.
Meanwhile, with the ST card in it's downloading email. I just cannot send.
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I realize that it has been "talked" about. But based upon conversations with VZ support perhaps it was time to rehash it based upon what I was told.
As far as the APN to edit -- after ICS update (non over the air -- the one provided here). See screenshot. There is even a folder created on the SD called APN Backup restore.
My phone is rooted using revolutionary and running the ICS deodexed, etc. found on xda-developers.
Based upon what I was told by VZ tech support, I purchased a ST test SIM with unlimited service. I installed it today and get SIM card is from an unknown source. I googled that and it appears to be locked. I thought I was unlocked and rooted using revolutionary. But now I question that. So am I truly unlocked like I thought I was? I then tried getting the unlock code using fastboot as per instructions on HTC's development site using oem get_identifier_token waiting for device, and I get stuck at "waiting for device" with no information ever coming up. The only way I appear to be able to communicate w device using ADB is by letting the phone boot then connecting it via usb using debugging mode, and always awake, then it appears as a device, but that's where I get that waiting for device message.
Meanwhile, with the ST card in it's downloading email. I just cannot send.
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Your phone is S-off, and rooted, unlocked is totally different. Unlocked means that verizon has allowed that phone to be used on other networks and carriers. You should really do some research, you will find that the thunderbolt will somewhat work on straight talk for a little while, then they will kick you off the network. Just google it instead of questioning everything people say here as they are just trying to help you and you seem to want to do nothing but argue anything that is said.
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Your phone is S-off, and rooted, unlocked is totally different. Unlocked means that verizon has allowed that phone to be used on other networks and carriers. You should really do some research, you will find that the thunderbolt will somewhat work on straight talk for a little while, then they will kick you off the network. Just google it instead of questioning everything people say here as they are just trying to help you and you seem to want to do nothing but argue anything that is said.
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First off, I'm not trying to "argue" with anyone. If these forums are not to ask questions, then what are they for? With that said, as I previously stated, I have spent HOURS which have amounted to DAYS reading not only the forums here and elsewhere and the information conflicts -- and I may have updated information who the heck knows. You never know when there is false information out there floating around and when it becomes outdated -- and the only way to update that information is by sharing upon these types of forums, I would think. You take your car to an automechanic and he tells you the entire transmission needs to be changed, do you just say ok or do you ask questions until you can fully understand the scope, do you do research, and if that research conflicts, do you ask for a second opinion or simply tell him, ok, go ahead and change it?
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Your phone is S-off, and rooted, unlocked is totally different. Unlocked means that verizon has allowed that phone to be used on other networks and carriers.
And as far as unlocked by Verizon, I followed a post until I reached an HTC forum indicating it can be unlocked for all carriers....by replacing the carrier OEM identifier token with an unlock code in binary format from HTC. See what I have pritned and attached.
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I think your issue is you read too much into this. Yes, your phone cane be unlocked, it can run on other carriers and networks.
Your phone can however only use CDMA carriers and networks. Just because it can be unlocked does not mean it can be used on networks that do not support the hardware your phone was made with. nothing can be done with software to change that.
Your second problem is, you are misunderstanding terms, and HTC them self are not helping this. The PDF files you linked say unlocking, they refer to unlocking the bootloader, meaning you gain S-off (you can flash files) The unlocking you are questioning here is to get your phone working on another network.
Those 2 things are entirely different.
A phone is designed to work on specific frequencies when it is designed. Some phones are CDMA phones, some are GSM phones, and some are global (they use both). This is a hardware thing. Nothing changes this once the phone has been made. Our Thunderbolts are CDMA phones, unfortunately we can not just up and go to AT&T or anywhere we want with this phone.
I am sorry for being argumentative with my last post, you are right this is a place to discuss issues like this.
If you search for StraightTalk you'll find that it may be both CDMA and GSM supported depending on where you live. If you search for Thunderbolt other carrier you'll find that some people have had limited success with missing functions getting it to work on other carriers.
If Your switching to another carrier, buy a phone for that carrier or a global phone. It's a lot of work getting a phone to work on another carrier and you can get a smartphone better than your thunderbolt for a low price on a MNVO. If your dead serous on taking your thunderbolt to another carrier it loks like Page plus is going to be your best bet. USE EXTREME CAUTION when flashing your phone as you could brick it and it would do you no good at all.
I've never flashed a phone to a different CDMA provider so I thought I'd ask here first and see if anyone had knowledge of how to do this? Or point me in the right direction to somewhere to learn how to? I've unlocked the GSM radio for use on att already and I'm sure it's a similar procedure, but I followed a guide to do this and have little experience with it. Thanks in advance to anyone that has information on this.
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Corutesy bump for wanting to switch the rezound I'm getting soon to Virgin Mobile.
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Also, how did you go about unlocking your phone? If you unlocked the gsm attenna. I assume that the phone is fully unlocked and you should just be able to switch it over. As long as it isn't on another account I.e. Verizon.
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anubis2k3 said:
I've never flashed a phone to a different CDMA provider so I thought I'd ask here first and see if anyone had knowledge of how to do this? Or point me in the right direction to somewhere to learn how to? I've unlocked the GSM radio for use on att already and I'm sure it's a similar procedure, but I followed a guide to do this and have little experience with it. Thanks in advance to anyone that has information on this.
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The CDMA providers blacklist phones from being used on other CDMA providers networks. "Flashing" in this sense is stealing and ESN/IMEI from an existing phone and cloning it to your phone. Not only is it extremely risky for your hardware, it is extremely against the law and cannot be discussed on these forums.
Certain phones like the Rezound and the Dinc4G have additional feature of GSM radios added for compatibility with oversea networks, you aren't really flashing anything so much as the phone reconfigures itself for GSM or CDMA depending on what kind of SIM card it finds.
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The CDMA providers blacklist phones from being used on other CDMA providers networks. "Flashing" in this sense is stealing and ESN/IMEI from an existing phone and cloning it to your phone. Not only is it extremely risky for your hardware, it is extremely against the law and cannot be discussed on these forums.
Certain phones like the Rezound and the Dinc4G have additional feature of GSM radios added for compatibility with oversea networks, you aren't really flashing anything so much as the phone reconfigures itself for GSM or CDMA depending on what kind of SIM card it finds.
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Umm. Not true at all actually. I had a P+ dealer switch over my phone with a bad esn (mother in law didnt pah her bill) and they didn't use a "friend" phone. It doesn't require stealing a phones imei or anything it requires a lot of work to port it to a different carrier, but doesn't require anything illegal. Not to mention what you're talking about is also based on the staye you are in. In the states it js legal as long as you aren't copying two have two phones on one service and is completely legal ( state dependant) if you own both phones. Check your facts.
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Corutesy bump for wanting to switch the rezound I'm getting soon to Virgin Mobile.
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Also, how did you go about unlocking your phone? If you unlocked the gsm attenna. I assume that the phone is fully unlocked and you should just be able to switch it over. As long as it isn't on another account I.e. Verizon.
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as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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OK. Well it makes sense now why I'm not getting much help on this topic. Anyone know of a forum for this kind of stuff?
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It should be possible, I've gotten as far as getting the NV values on both radios, but it seems as the 9k wants to search for signal on 800mhz only, at least according to DFS.
The Thunderbolt is able to get 3g working on Boost/VM/etc. at least from what I've seen. Considering the similarity between it and the Rezound I was hoping it would be easier...
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blu422 said:
as far as using it on gsm networks, yeah its possible you just need to either do some things (I could dig up a link if you want) on stock and have it kinda work, or find a rom that supports it and flash that (recommended, what i'm gonna be doing). and flashing phones to other networks i am pretty sure is illegal, i know from experience, i tried to work that out on xda and they sent me away saying this isnt a topic allowed of these forums, so if you still want to know about carrier flashing i suggest another forum
but anyways just making sure i am following you right, you want to gsm unlock but want to use it on virgin mobile (a CDMA network?)
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Flashing phones to different networks aren't illegal. It is a state dependant thing. I went and had my note 2 flashed over at a business in the middle of a bestbuy, guitar center, more big businesses. (Aka, big businesses near ~ not a shady place)
Yes, I know that Virgin Mobile is CDMA. I wanted to know how to unlock the GSM antenna purely for education purposes.
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jameyscott said:
Flashing phones to different networks aren't illegal. It is a state dependant thing. I went and had my note 2 flashed over at a business in the middle of a bestbuy, guitar center, more big businesses. (Aka, big businesses near ~ not a shady place)
Yes, I know that Virgin Mobile is CDMA. I wanted to know how to unlock the GSM antenna purely for education purposes.
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well if it is by the carrier or carrier certified reps it isn't. and what that other guy said it works with DFS CDMAtool or I've heard of cdma workshop working good take a look here
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It should be possible, I've gotten as far as getting the NV values on both radios, but it seems as the 9k wants to search for signal on 800mhz only, at least according to DFS.
The Thunderbolt is able to get 3g working on Boost/VM/etc. at least from what I've seen. Considering the similarity between it and the Rezound I was hoping it would be easier...
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It is easy, but only to people that already know how to do it. The process is similar for most phones and doesn't require a lot, but most that try to do it dont know what they're doing and it takes them forever. What we need is a good electrical engineer.
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Quick update:
The Rezound can work on Sprint-based towers, at least with leaked global (4.03) and stock global (4.05) radios. It took me couple of days of fidding via DFS, but right now I do have 3G working, albeit with the stock ROM complaining that mobile data isn't working. Trying out couple of ROMs to see which ones is usable.
Most important thing is that the 8K radio needs to be set to NV_ONLY but that 9K can be set to RUIM preferred. Also, flashing the firmware (from the recent 4.05 global update) will reset the 8K radio to RUIM, which is a good thing/bad thing. Good thing is that if you ever want to NV reset (since hard resets do not seem to wipe NV), flashing the latest firmware/radio should get you back to RUIM/stock PRL/blanked #. Bad thing is you need to fiddle with some of the settings in DFS again, but at least it's only for the 8K radio so far.
Another thing that probably made it work was to use the same PRL from the phone Sprint thinks you are using. For me this was the 61009 PRL. Profile info only needs to get stuck into the 9K radio and I don't think you really need to bother with the NAM2 stuff. But again, I've done too many fiddling to be able to say for certain.
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