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I have a Thunderbolt running Das BAMF Remix 1.6.3 and Imo's 2.7.0 kernel (I have tried going between Batt Saver/Normal, and now I am on Extreme). I adjusted my brightness of my display to about 20% (instead of automatic), and when I am home I try to be on my Wi-Fi. For some reason, I am not getting a full day's charge out of my Thunderbolt (when I first got the extended battery, I was getting at least 32 hours). I read about people's batteries and I feel people with the stock battery are getting more/equal amount as I am with an extended battery. I tried running Normal setting on Imo's kernel at one point and I did not even last 12 hours, and I was on 3G doing only minimal texting. I tried Batt Saver, and the first day I used it, it was really good (about 10 hours and I was down to 75%, but until I got to 18% or so and then within 3 minutes it was dead, which was weird). But the following day it was not as good as it was, and it died again less than a day. I even tried the Das BAMF kernels and they have similar results. I am also trying to switch between InteractiveX/SmartAss/OndemandX, but I am not seeing too much of a difference (unless someone can give hints on which is supposed to lend to a longer lasting battery). Any advice would be appreciated! (And if you need more specs on my phone, let me know... I generally only text, I do not play games or do very intensive internet things).
I have found the best battery life on bamf stripped v1.1, I get better battery life on that than any other Rom I've tried including stripped v1.7 and all the other bamf versions. I'm running the 4.4.6 kernel, I haven't tried the batt saver kernel from Imoseyon yet. I get 2-3x's the battery life as stock and almost twice the battery life as any other bamf Rom
There are lots of things to consider about your battery life. If you look at your batter use on your phone does it show anything that might be suspiciously draining battery more than normal? If you're using Imo's kernel you can type "12" into the terminal when you are changing governors to see the stats of how long your phone is staying at different frequencies, does it show a high amount of time spent at the higher frequencies? How long does your phones display stay on for?
There are so many things that can drain the battery its ridiculous and randomly I will have severe drains at times that are only solved by a reboot.
eraursls1984, do you have an extended battery? How much battery life are you getting?
Beastclaw, battery use seems normal - nothing out of the ordinary or suspicious is really eating at my battery. As I said before, I am currently running InteractiveX and at Extreme mode, and these are my states at different frequencies:
245760: 2102206
368640: 409810
768000: 58113
1024000: 263351
1222400: 12737
1408000: 72575
1593600: 0
1766400: 0
1920000: 0
Seems that nothing is really running too much on high frequencies, mainly on the lower end. My phone display is supposed to stay on for, I believe, 2 minutes, but whenever I am doing using it, I always lock it.
I heard Autostarts was a good app that could help with battery life and performance (and I was warned to not change any system settings), but I am trying to see if maybe there is anything else I can do to figure out why my battery seems to not last as long as other batteries.
You can try using an app from the market called "CurrentWidget" It allows you to log how much power your phone is using at different intervals of time. My phone generally runs at 40-60mA when the screen is off and its not doing anything and between 400-600mA when the screen is on and I am running tasks. You can use the log to check to make sure your phone isnt drawing too much power in the down state. It even shows you the stats in a nifty little graph form
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eraursls1984, do you have an extended battery? How much battery life are you getting?.
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I have a stock battery and with normal use I get 12-14 hours compared to about 4 when I was completely stock. When I use my phone heavily, constant browsing, I get about 4 hours compared to less than 2 stock. I always have my brightness all the way up except for when I'm in bed because this screen is not bright at all compared to my old phones. Unless you just have to have sense (which to me makes no sense, lol) then I would recommend trying bamf stripped v1.1. I am also not overclocked, I noticed a little increase in performance but not enough to justify the loss of some battery life., however I was going to experiment with it again since I haven't tested the performance and battery life of stripped v1.1 overclocked.
I mean, I have BAMF Remix 1.6.3, which I guess has Sense elements since I do not have BAMF Stripped? I mean, I do not think I use any Sense features or anything like that, so I have no reason not to get BAMF Stripped if it helps increase performance/battery life. Yeah, on Remix 1.6.3 and Imo's kernel at Normal, I had 12 hours on my extended battery... Haha.
Bump - does anyone have Autostarts? Or any other program/app that will help with the battery life, or any other suggestions? I will test the CurrentWidget app tomorrow when I am actually up and using my phone and see if I get similar results or if I find another program is using up my memory... I also recently installed Advanced Task Killer today to help with this battery problem, but I heard mixed things about using it and how it can actually negatively impact the phone instead of helping.
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Bump - does anyone have Autostarts? Or any other program/app that will help with the battery life, or any other suggestions? I will test the CurrentWidget app tomorrow when I am actually up and using my phone and see if I get similar results or if I find another program is using up my memory... I also recently installed Advanced Task Killer today to help with this battery problem, but I heard mixed things about using it and how it can actually negatively impact the phone instead of helping.
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Before 2.2 they were useful on some phones if used right, but its not needed nor does it work on the thunderbolt. If its set to autokill then it will drain the battery faster by running and killing apps, then the phone using juice to reopen the apps that were killed. If you root you can use autokiller (not a task killer) to set parameters for ram memory but I haven't found it to be necessary on the t-bolt, it was needed on my old droid X to keep it from lagging. I would suggest uninstalling the task killer.
Took your advice and uninstalled the task killer - thanks! Anyone else have any other suggestions or advice about my battery problem?
Autostarts is definitely worth $1. If you are familiar with Windows, it's kinda like msconfig for android. It prevents nonessential apps from starting in the background and wasting battery & network bandwidth. If you want to do everything you possibly can to minimize resource hogging, you should get Autostarts.
I downloaded Autostarts - I hate to be asking this sort of question but I am sort of cautious when changing these sorts of settings (because I heard a person who had to boot into recovery because he shut off system applications by accident), which programs should/shouldn't I turn off? I am a little confused how to use this program - did it automatically shut off some programs, because as I look through I see some programs are crossed off in a green line... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
Bump - can anyone help me with Autostarts? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
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Sigh, Autostarts isn't a "task killer"
I stay away from any proccess that's needed to run in the background. Things in yellow, leave alone. IMO pandora has no business running in the background at start up. If there's no valid reason, I kill it.
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I realize Autostarts isn't a task killer (it cannot kill a task if it never opens up, hehe). Thanks for your advice though! The more I was looking at it last night, the more I was understanding, but you just reassured what I was assuming. Hopefully this helps my battery a bit... Or I figure what else makes my extended battery drain faster than others.
Even with Autostarts, my battery life has not improved that much... I have been experimenting a bit with different governors and settings, but now I am back with the extreme Imo kernel and on InteractiveX. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Any help would be appreciated!
I was having trouble with my battery also. I've been lucky with Gingeritis but still the battery was killing me. This may not be an option but the extended battery is amazing. I got the case to go with it and I'm not disapointed. This OS with heavy use also and display at 50% and all animations enabled. Also running 4g all day!
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The problem is, I DO have the extended battery and now seeing some of the battery life that others are getting (a lot say 30+ hours, I am barely pushing my phone and I am getting less than 20 at a time).
BAMF 3 RC2, imo 3.3.4, 245/1593, LTE Only mode, auto brightness, twitter sync every 15 minutes, facebook every hour, gmail push, weather every hour, 4 hours of music streaming, another couple of playing, a lot of twitter and facebook, and doing a bunch of other things with the phone, and I rebooted about 3 times. I think I could hit 50+ hours if i didn't OC or reboot.
Oh yeah, I have the extended battery
g00s3y, which governor are you using?
i'm on the same kernel, but using gingerremix w/ a std battery. the phone drains 40% overnight with it being on wifi. (that's with just gmail pushing and gtalk on).
Hi, I love my 3VO but my biggest issue with it is battery life.. I use my phone a lot for music, texting, facebook, etc.. and can't get it to last me a full day. I seem to get 8-10 hours out of my battery, if I back off on usage I probably get 12 or a little better. is there much to gain by rooting? my old phone was a rooted hero, which stock the phone hardly worked.. so root was almost required, and made the phone so much better. I've considered rooting the 3vo, but it's just worked well enough that I haven't made time to mess with it and don't necessarily have a reason to. any input for me?
For battery life, I run MIUI. Yes root it. De bloat it at a minimum. Toss a few ROMs and kernels around. I like my Evo4G more than this phone until it was rooted.
Eternity is a sweet sense ROM by the way. Not great on battery, bit it is a best!
E3D'ed... Booyah!
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Root your phone, install clockwork mod recovery, flash clockwork recovery to save your rooted stock rom.
Next drain your battery until its dead, recharge to full and reboot into recovery.
From there you you will need to wipe your battery stats, found under advanced. Reboot.
Drain battery once again and charge to full.
useful links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954107
If ur gettiing that good of battery life u should be happy. Thats pretty impressive for any phone in my opinion.
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I might have to give rooting it a shot, my friends with iphones and similar usage seem to get at least a couple hours more than I do. could just be the tiny screens they have to deal with.. but if I could make mine last longer with a different rom I might have to give it a shot. As of right now my phone has been on the fritz a little bit.. and I wanna get that taken care of before I try rooting it. I'm sure sprint won't be too quick to replace a rooted phone.
Installed synergy and with Virtuous_OC-PC my battery life has doubled compared to stock htc sense. It appears to manage turning on and off services better then the stock, as well as under clocking when it's asleep. I really notice it when the battery is low, the power save settings seem to really kick in there.
Yes, absolutely root your phone. Best thing I have done! Check out CleanROM by Scott at www.scottsroms.com. Great battery life - I average about 24 hours with light to moderate usage and 12+ hours with moderate to heavy usage.
Just try out a few ROMS and see which one you like and runs good on your phone. Even with the same ROM some phones have can have issues and others don't.
Simple question for all the experts...
If two different Roms are running the same Kernel, should the battery drain be that much different?
Im running REZRom currently and thinking about switching to Bamf 2.1. i'm sure both roms are smooth and fantastic I just want the one with the best battery life.
Any advice would be great, thanks in advance.
You should get good battery life on either. That is depending on your usage and setup of course.
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Battery life with same kernel should not vary too much from ROM to ROM. Depends on how much "stuff" is running in bakground that might be using the battery up. The kernel makes the biggest difference since it controls the whole system. I am personally using Scotts CleanRom Developers Edition (Senseless) and it is great! I get a solid 13+ hours with moderate use (some calls, lots of web, and a few games) and thats on 4G for 11-12 hours of it! If you use wifi you probably could squeeze another hour or 2 out of the battery...
This is on clean rom dev edition. 2 hours screen on time so far with standard battery. I use 3g normally unless I need 4g. I also use juice defender ultimate and keep data off while not in use.
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While there are a number of tweaks and apps you can use (like SetCPU) to improve battery life, it's true that the kernel has more to do with battery life than that ROM itself.
Sometimes a rogue app can prevent the cpu from idling or prevent the phone from entering deep sleep mode. This happens on mine occasionally, and you can usually tell from the extended battery graph because the phone will show as awake for large periods of time, even when the screen is off and it should be in sleep mode.
My battery life is ridiculous. It doesn't use that much when the screens off but when it's on it uses 10% in about 15-20 minutes. I'm on a sense 4 rom and on senseless it's not much better. Even if I'm streaming music with the screen off, it's okay. It seems the screen is using a massive amount. Is there anything I can do? Thanks
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My battery life is ridiculous. It doesn't use that much when the screens off but when it's on it uses 10% in about 15-20 minutes. I'm on a sense 4 rom and on senseless it's not much better. Even if I'm streaming music with the screen off, it's okay. It seems the screen is using a massive amount. Is there anything I can do? Thanks
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Nope. Thats typical.
You'll get around 4 hours or so of continuous screen-on time, and thats IF you start with a full battery...
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My battery life is ridiculous. It doesn't use that much when the screens off but when it's on it uses 10% in about 15-20 minutes. I'm on a sense 4 rom and on senseless it's not much better. Even if I'm streaming music with the screen off, it's okay. It seems the screen is using a massive amount. Is there anything I can do? Thanks
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i get 2 hrs screen on. less if im playing games, currently im obsessed with dead trigger. ive been playing with my phone plugged in....
You can try slim rom. It worked a little for me. I have the same issue you're describing. Tho for me I also get drain while the screen is off as well due to being in a poor reception area most of the day. Also make sure ur brightness is no higher than 30%. Its just the phone man. The screen is a hog. Honestly I've Bern wondering if there's a way to turn off every other pixel on a hardware level or something cause frankly its ridic.
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Yep, the screen's the culprit, and it's pretty bad. Try JuiceDefender. If you get one of the advanced versions you can really conserve battery power while the phone's not in use, which will extend the power available for screen-on use. Also, you can reduce the CPU speeds a bit, which will also reduce draw and lower the heat.
I use JD Ultimate. My idle/standby time is now very nice, but as others have said there's only about 4 hours of use with the screen on.
I keep hoping the reason for the ICS release delay is because they're working on battery life issues. :sigh:
Thanks guys. I guess it just isn't great on battery life. I've tried juice defender and stuff like that but i was never a fan. I'll give it another try. It sucks to have 50% and the next time I look it's at 40... Haha. Is auto brightness better that doing it yourself?
Turn off any auto syncing and location services if they're not needed.
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davidetkin511 said:
Thanks guys. I guess it just isn't great on battery life. I've tried juice defender and stuff like that but i was never a fan. I'll give it another try.
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I wouldn't bother, JD has never worked well at all in the Rezound.
I have one of the paid for advanced versions of JD and I don even bother installing it anymore. I think my battery life was actually worse when running that.
My solution now is to use a mugen 4000 battery. That battery lasts so long I don't even bother to set a screen timeout anymore.
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I wouldn't bother, JD has never worked well at all in the Rezound.
I have one of the paid for advanced versions of JD and I don even bother installing it anymore. I think my battery life was actually worse when running that.
My solution now is to use a mugen 4000 battery. That battery lasts so long I don't even bother to set a screen timeout anymore.
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Do any of those battery saving apps work?
I'm not crazy about big batteries. How is their 1900 one?
I've got about 15 hours once off newts sense 4 rom but with like 2 hours screen time. Screen time is really all that matters in deciding if ur battery lasts 5 hours or 15, unless u have things like music going on while the screen is off, but 2 hours or so is about all the screen time I can get
about 4 hours screen on with standard and 6 hours with ext battery
Same here, I've gotten up to 14-15 hours on a single charge, but with twoish hours of screen time. Other than the screen being a battery murderer on this phone, I've noticed that having poor reception really wreaks havoc on the battery also. I live in the sticks of PA where I'm in a crossover area, and continually switch between 2-4 bars signal of 1x, 3G, and 4G. And if I don't have a stable signal for a while, the phone will actually heat up and start discharging the battery due to constant searching for a signal. Sitting at work, full strength 4G signal, it only heats up when the screen is on for an extended period of time.
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I wouldn't bother, JD has never worked well at all in the Rezound.
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JuiceDefender works fine on the Rezound. The problem is that the Rezound doesn't benefit from JuiceDefender as much as other phones do, mainly because it suffers from a different problem than other phones.
JuiceDefender's strategy is to shutdown nearly every radio and process in the phone when the screen is off and there's no active communications. This works, in the sense that if you turn off the screen with 98% power, you can turn it back on a couple hours later and the phone will still have 94% battery remaining. You won't get that kind of battery life if you're running a bunch of widgets and syncing email without JD.
But the Rezound's incredible screen (and even now it remains one of the very highest quality displays in the industry) draws a lot of juice when it's running. Not coincidentally, this is also the time when the dual cores are running at maximum speed, and the heat you feel on a Rezound that's been screen-on for a few minutes is the milliamps getting sucked from your battery.
Still, JuiceDefender can help here, too. You can tinker with the brightness curve to reduce your backlighting even with the dimmer set to "Auto," and you can tinker with the CPU speeds and the governor strategy. The phone does not need to run both CPU cores at full speed to feel responsive, and yet that's what it does by default. In the Ultimate version, anyway, JuiceDefender does a good job of capping that. In fact, with the right settings I can operate my phone indefinitely without overheating it. And any heat you can't feel is energy that's staying in the battery.
JuiceDefender does work. But it helps to have reasonable expectations. That display does draw a lot more current than most other phones, and this does limit your screen-on time no matter what else you do to conserve power.
I never really cared for JuiceDefender back when I used it on my Evo 4G. It seemed to just barely save me any battery and having to wait for the radios to turn back on after every unlock was annoying me.
I will suggest that if you have the Facebook app and you're regularly using it, it might be taking up tremendous amount of battery. If you want to keep using it, at least disable it from syncing.
Also, TurboProp works pretty nice in extending my battery life. I don't think it's just a placebo, either. I can go over 24 hours on a single charge thanks to it, and that's for the stock battery, too.
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JuiceDefender works fine on the Rezound. The problem is that the Rezound doesn't benefit from JuiceDefender as much as other phones do, mainly because it suffers from a different problem than other phones.
JuiceDefender's strategy is to shutdown nearly every radio and process in the phone when the screen is off and there's no active communications. This works, in the sense that if you turn off the screen with 98% power, you can turn it back on a couple hours later and the phone will still have 94% battery remaining. You won't get that kind of battery life if you're running a bunch of widgets and syncing email without JD.
But the Rezound's incredible screen (and even now it remains one of the very highest quality displays in the industry) draws a lot of juice when it's running. Not coincidentally, this is also the time when the dual cores are running at maximum speed, and the heat you feel on a Rezound that's been screen-on for a few minutes is the milliamps getting sucked from your battery.
Still, JuiceDefender can help here, too. You can tinker with the brightness curve to reduce your backlighting even with the dimmer set to "Auto," and you can tinker with the CPU speeds and the governor strategy. The phone does not need to run both CPU cores at full speed to feel responsive, and yet that's what it does by default. In the Ultimate version, anyway, JuiceDefender does a good job of capping that. In fact, with the right settings I can operate my phone indefinitely without overheating it. And any heat you can't feel is energy that's staying in the battery.
JuiceDefender does work. But it helps to have reasonable expectations. That display does draw a lot more current than most other phones, and this does limit your screen-on time no matter what else you do to conserve power.
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Very good explanation cpurick. Totally agree with your assessment that the cpu cores need to be capped. Do you mind sharing your JD settings?
What has been people's experience with battery life with the different ROMs? I've been on AOKP for awhile, and the battery, quite frankly, sucked compared to stock. I'm currently on PA and am getting just under stock. For me, battery life is first priority, even if there is occasional stutter. Testing battery life takes a long time, so I just wanted to see what others have been seeing. I would stay on stock, but I really want Tablet UI and real setting toggles.
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What has been people's experience with battery life with the different ROMs? I've been on AOKP for awhile, and the battery, quite frankly, sucked compared to stock. I'm currently on PA and am getting just under stock. For me, battery life is first priority, even if there is occasional stutter. Testing battery life takes a long time, so I just wanted to see what others have been seeing. I would stay on stock, but I really want Tablet UI and real setting toggles.
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Disable Google Now and see if that helps, totally did on my HOX and I've yet done it to my Nexus but I've not used it enough to actually deplete a battery yet.
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What has been people's experience with battery life with the different ROMs? I've been on AOKP for awhile, and the battery, quite frankly, sucked compared to stock. I'm currently on PA and am getting just under stock. For me, battery life is first priority, even if there is occasional stutter. Testing battery life takes a long time, so I just wanted to see what others have been seeing. I would stay on stock, but I really want Tablet UI and real setting toggles.
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You sort of want your cake and eat it too. If you want a ROM full of features and packed full of unicorn blood and the tears of leprechauns something is going to have to give and that will always be the battery life.
I use pa ...I charge my tablet every other day
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Ktoonsez Kernel: Underclock to 1.3Ghz
Disabled: Google Now, GPS,
Freeze: all stock apps I don't use, Magazine, books, currents
Battery Life: 4 days.
I read a lot.
Don't game.
Watch videos with zero stutter.
I finally charged my tablet last night. Im at 82% in 8 hours.
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I'm addicted to my tablet... I've been using it without stop for the last three hours. This are my results with Paranoidandroid:
Very similar with stock though. I think I could upload some as well.
I'm pretty sure this is stock. Not a lot of difference as I said. Both of the images are with very heavy usage, I mean, screen on all the time, but almost the lowest brightness. With the screen off I get almost no drop.
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Battery life will always be a combination of idle drain + screen on drain. THe most important is obviously how long you can actually use the tablet (screen on time), but you also need good enough idle drain to not lose hardly any charge between when you use your tablet.
The more features you add the less battery life usually is. So either keep PA so you have the tablet UI or use a ROM that is very close to stock, like the stock ROM from scrosler or Muzzy's ROM.
A kernel can also have greater effect on battery life. If you want the best battery then go with KTManta kernel. Use either PegasusQ or ktoonservative governor and add in some undervolting to lower power draw. Using this combination I was able to get over 13 hours of screen on time in 1 charge. Idle drain was about 1% every 8-9 hours.
Personally, I've found that my battery life has improved maybe 10% since running cyanogenmod. If I'm really lucky I can get 7 hours SOT. Not a huge improvement over stock, but its definitely better.
Its worth noting that I use the "performance" CPU governor, which is supposed to be a battery killer. Strangely it doesn't seem to make much difference for me though, it just makes everything quicker!
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Personally, I've found that my battery life has improved maybe 10% since running cyanogenmod. If I'm really lucky I can get 7 hours SOT. Not a huge improvement over stock, but its definitely better.
Its worth noting that I use the "performance" CPU governor, which is supposed to be a battery killer. Strangely it doesn't seem to make much difference for me though, it just makes everything quicker!
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Well, it is difficult to notice a higher battery drop when it is already insane... XD. Well, according to battery widget I'm getting around 8h with the screen on, which is not bad.
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Well, it is difficult to notice a higher battery drop when it is already insane... XD. Well, according to battery widget I'm getting around 8h with the screen on, which is not bad.
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I've used the "battery widget" for a very long time and that app is a battery drainer. Got way better battery life uninstalling that app.