I want to buy a micro sd card the same speed/class rating as the built in memory in my galaxy s2. Don't see any point in going higher class or speed, on the other hand I don't want to go lower. What class our speed rating of microsd should I therefore buy please. Thanks folks.
You won't ever get a sd card that will run as fast as the NAND/internal sd. So in essence, your goal will never be achieved. What you can do however, is change the external sd card reading speed/rate, so that the scanning will be much faster than stock. I don't remember where a guide can be found, but search it up, it was on the portal/news here once. Also i do not know if it will work with the GS2.
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You won't ever get a sd card that will run as fast as the NAND/internal sd. So in essence, your goal will never be achieved. What you can do however, is change the external sd card reading speed/rate, so that the scanning will be much faster than stock. I don't remember where a guide can be found, but search it up, it was on the portal/news here once. Also i do not know if it will work with the GS2.
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It's called SD-Booster. It will only allow you to modify your READ times. It also requires root access to be set on boot.
Thanks both for your replies, my phone is not rooted (lack of confidence in doing that re warranty etc just while its new)
On a slightly different tack, is there a speed rating of a micro sd which would not impede 1080p video playback on my SG2 , I download a lot of astronomy podcasts which are HQ for small details to be displayed, not too bothered about the time to save them onto the micro sdcard , but wouldnt want the micro sd card not to be able to supply the data fast enough back to the system for smooth play. I know I could keep most of them on the factory memory, but micro sd based playback would be useful too.
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What do you guys think about having multiple Micro SD cards to contain movies and putting them in the TF prime when you want to watch them. But otherwise keeping the tablet without a regular MicroSD card?
I guess what else I'm wondering is does it put files onto the card the way the android phones do if you just leave a card in the device?
I'm trying to convince myself to get the 32gb and just get micro SD for my movies otherwise I only have about 10GB of personal media to put directly on the device.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
You would need a way to carrying your sd cards around safely then and a way to remember which movie is on which card ^^ But if you want as much storage as possible why not getting the 64gb version? Fast 32gb sd cards arent cheap.
I get the 32gb version too, i wont putting all my music on it though, i have my Phone for that. So i think 64gb (32gb internal+32gb sdcard) will be more than enough for movies+apps. I dont have to keep all my movies on the tablet all the time. I watch alot of episode based stuff like series and documentations so it will be completely fine to put 1 season on it and watch that then put season 2 on it and so on
And i will have the dock as well with regular SD card slot and usb so for me thats more than enough.
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What do you guys think about having multiple Micro SD cards to contain movies and putting them in the TF prime when you want to watch them. But otherwise keeping the tablet without a regular MicroSD card?
I guess what else I'm wondering is does it put files onto the card the way the android phones do if you just leave a card in the device?
I'm trying to convince myself to get the 32gb and just get micro SD for my movies otherwise I only have about 10GB of personal media to put directly on the device.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
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Use of the Micro SD Card will be helpful and also SD Card in the Docking Station but look at this posting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276410
The tablet can look at your computer and files (how you set it up) to look at almost anything even apk's to install. This can be done from anywhere with your tablet / WIFI as long as your computer is on. This works reall well with your phone also.
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Yeah, I'm getting a case that will hold accessories but mainly because I don't want to wait for the 64Gb to come out most likely in Jan. It's my only Christmas gift too. I'm just thinking that if that would work I could get it if my local gamestop comes through or microcenter.
I agree about the music, my phone as well is used for that. My only use outside of gaming, internet and Apps would be movies which is why I thought about the MicroSDs. A couple Class 4 I would think could hand scaled down movies and still look decent.
But that brings up another point if later on 64 GB microSD become more affordable could the tablet support it or is it limited to 32gb?
I prefer waiting for the 64gb version. It shouldn't be more than one or 2 weeks from here. For me, it's not just a matter of storage but performance too. I am using it for music, video and will try some basic photoediting (probably in RAW), so having to rely on a slow card (even Class 10 are slow for this) doesn't seem like an option. And I don't like having to switch cards. It wouldn't be the first microSD card I lost either, and as I am planning to use the tablet for travelling it's not a good idea to rely on a second microSD and then lose it
On the other hand, getting the dock means you should be able to use external hard drives, way better than just SD cards for more storage, so if you're using it home, why having 2 microsd cards when you can have all the space you need in an external hard drive?
hyrulejedi86 said:
What do you guys think about having multiple Micro SD cards to contain movies and putting them in the TF prime when you want to watch them. But otherwise keeping the tablet without a regular MicroSD card?
I guess what else I'm wondering is does it put files onto the card the way the android phones do if you just leave a card in the device?
I'm trying to convince myself to get the 32gb and just get micro SD for my movies otherwise I only have about 10GB of personal media to put directly on the device.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
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most HC tablets have their internal storage partitioned and the OS sees it somewhat like an SD card, so those random files that usually get put on an SD card (android folder and such) will get put there and not the sd card, so you should be fine with swapping cards in and out without worrying about breaking apps.
This just makes me want to get multiple cards and then get something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/micro-SD-card-holder-RED/dp/B003F2K6MC
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This just makes me want to get multiple cards and then get something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/micro-SD-card-holder-RED/dp/B003F2K6MC
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that seems pretty handy
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This just makes me want to get multiple cards and then get something like this:
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Awesome! I think that's exactly what I will be getting. That's perfect, since I will have a carrying case with pockets I'd put it in the pocket. Create a document on the transformer as to what movies are on which card and label them 1 to whatever.
I did a few searches but didn't find a clear explanation so I'll ask. What is the proper way to install a new SD after having flipped int/ext cards via navenedrob's mod. If this possible without flipping them back to the stock config? I can copy the files to pc and then to the new card no problem but i don't know how to format the new card. Can anyone help?
Well if figured it out. I had problems with getting large game files to download and it turns the problem was the class 10 32gb SD I was using. From what i gather the X2 just doesn't like anything over 16gb. I went to a Class 6 16gb card and everything is working great and the response time is much better and the write/read times are both in the low teens. It sure is nice to have 15gb's of usable app memory instead of 4gb. 32gb's would have been awesome but oh well at least my wife's camera can now hold thousands of pics.
Hi everybody
I just got my phone yesterday and after inserting my class 2 16gb the phone asks me where i want to save pictures when taken with the camera. Any of you with performance "tests" regarding this so far?
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class 2 will defininitely not work with HD recording. correct me if im wrong. photo's are okay for that but if you will gonna load pictures in the gallery app i can guarantee you there will be some latency in loading thumbnails.
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I just got my phone yesterday and after inserting my class 2 16gb the phone asks me where i want to save pictures when taken with the camera. Any of you with performance "tests" regarding this so far?
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In your position I would save them on the internal card. As you probably know it will offer a faster transfer rate than the external SD card, especially as your sd card is class 2.
I doubt this will have an impact when taking single shots, but features like burst mode may suffer. Videos are very unlikely to work smoothly.
As your internal memory will have 16gb or more of space I dont see the downside. You can always use a file manager to copy files to the external card if problems arise.
If you are tempted by a faster SD card then this one seems to be universally regarded as the best. In case you are not sure about SD cards class system, an explanation can be found here.
Hello all,
Question for you guys/gals, i ordered the Z2 and expecting delivery today. I am now looking at microSD cards. I notice some inconsistency in the MicroSD card capacity from different sites. Anyone know if the 128 works with the Z2?
Sony's site: Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 64 GB (SDXC supported) Clicky
Phone Arena: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC up to 128 GB Clicky
GSMArena: microSD, up to 128 GB Clicky
Thanks in advance!
It shoyld support it mate, I wouldn't worry about it
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128 gb should be no problem
I got my wife a Z1 Compact and am (im)patiently waiting for my Z2 to arrive. I ordered a mess of the SanDisk 128GB cards when Amazon first got them in about 2 months ago. I've yet to put one in something and have it not work properly. Works perfect in the Z1 Compact, so I would think that there would be no issues with the Z2.
I should warn you however that the performance is pretty painful. Coming from SanDisk's 64GB extreme plus, the speed of something that just makes the cut to be a class 10 is a little disappointing. For me capacity comes before performance almost every time - my Go Pro probably being the lone exception.
Thanks all. Very much appreciate the responses.
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Hello all,
Question for you guys/gals, i ordered the Z2 and expecting delivery today. I am now looking at microSD cards. I notice some inconsistency in the MicroSD card capacity from different sites. Anyone know if the 128 works with the Z2?
Sony's site: Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 64 GB (SDXC supported) Clicky
Phone Arena: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC up to 128 GB Clicky
GSMArena: microSD, up to 128 GB Clicky
Thanks in advance!
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I have a 128gb in my Z2, only got the phone yesterday, no problems so far
My 64GB card is showing up as a 64GB card but I'm yet to find a way to actually get anything onto it. The only way I got stuff on is when the phone's internal capacity was getting full (already! after one day!) and it offered to move stuff (movies, music, photos) to the SD card. It managed to yet none of my file manager software on the phone, or when connected directly to PC, or via WiFi File Explorer, or even when the card is directly in the PC with an adaptor, lets me put an actual file on it. I can create a new folder if I'm lucky, that's it.
It's a beautiful phone but the SD card is doing my head in. I've a Sony 64GB SDXC so it should work a treat... have I missed something? Like an option somewhere to actually allow writing data from the card by the user rather than just when the phone says it's okay?
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My 64GB card is showing up as a 64GB card but I'm yet to find a way to actually get anything onto it. The only way I got stuff on is when the phone's internal capacity was getting full (already! after one day!) and it offered to move stuff (movies, music, photos) to the SD card. It managed to yet none of my file manager software on the phone, or when connected directly to PC, or via WiFi File Explorer, or even when the card is directly in the PC with an adaptor, lets me put an actual file on it. I can create a new folder if I'm lucky, that's it.
It's a beautiful phone but the SD card is doing my head in. I've a Sony 64GB SDXC so it should work a treat... have I missed something? Like an option somewhere to actually allow writing data from the card by the user rather than just when the phone says it's okay?
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Yes, you missed Kitkat restrictions. :/
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Yes, you missed Kitkat restrictions. :/
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That doesn't seem right.
So according to you I can't put music on my SD Card; I can record movies and photos on the phone onto the SD card but cannot transfer them to a PC, and I can't basically do ANYTHING with files on the SD card on my phone?
That doesn't sound right. What's the point of having an SD Card slot at all then? I thought the Kit Kat restrictions applies to apps, not general files. If you're right I'll have to change to another phone as that is a step backwards. It was SO easy on my Xperia S.
So far I've had to upload all my photos & movies I've taken since getting the Z2 to Dropbox and then download them on my PC from there, which is taking HOURS. I'm then going to format the card and see if that helps (I did not format it on insertion as it showed up OK and all seems well but my PC won't read it even in a reader).
This don't seem right. I'll update later (it will, as I said, be hours) with a solution to this in case anyone else is having the issue I'm having.
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That doesn't seem right.
So according to you I can't put music on my SD Card; I can record movies and photos on the phone onto the SD card but cannot transfer them to a PC, and I can't basically do ANYTHING with files on the SD card on my phone?
That doesn't sound right. What's the point of having an SD Card slot at all then? I thought the Kit Kat restrictions applies to apps, not general files. If you're right I'll have to change to another phone as that is a step backwards. It was SO easy on my Xperia S.
So far I've had to upload all my photos & movies I've taken since getting the Z2 to Dropbox and then download them on my PC from there, which is taking HOURS. I'm then going to format the card and see if that helps (I did not format it on insertion as it showed up OK and all seems well but my PC won't read it even in a reader).
This don't seem right. I'll update later (it will, as I said, be hours) with a solution to this in case anyone else is having the issue I'm having.
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The restrictions that kitkat impose are that applications cannot write to anywhere on the sdcard and must use their own folder on an sdcard. Applications that have rootaccess are able to bypass this limitation including some pre-installed apps such as the camera, walkman and file commander application.
I have all my music and videos stored on my sd card and have no trouble accessing them and I copy them across in media-transfer mode via usb cable on my pc.
When you attach the sd card to your pc, are you doing it through your phone or via a card reader etc?
Situation has changed a little now - I can now view the card correctly on my PC.
It's because I'm stubbornly still on XP (I am NOT moving to Vista, 7 or 8 any time in the future!) so I needed an update to enable SDXC cards, otherwise it just gets stuck saying "card isn't formatted, do you want to format it? (yes) Oh, formatting failed" etc.
In case anyone else has problems like this the update is KB955704, available from link below.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=19364
This means I can now just pull the card from my Z2 and stick my music etc. on from there, and pull the photos etc off from there.
It seems even when connecting to PC via the phone's USB lead there are problems until this update is in - I could see the files but not edit them, move, copy, etc etc which is what was REALLY confusing me.
Sorry if I seemed a bit noobie about that. I've actually been flashing my phones, tinkering etc for years and years but I guess I've not had an SDXC card before so didn't realise it wouldn't play ball.
MUCH better now - I don't really care what the KitKat limitations are now I can just transfer files "properly".
Cheers for the explanation about KitKat though, that is very useful.
So I wasted a day transferring files via Dropbox when a poxy Windows update would have solved it. You live and learn. I hope I can save someone else the hassle!
The pre-installed File Commander can write to the internal storage. So getting files onto the external add card is two stages. I copy over WiFi from my NAS to internal storage using ES file explorer, then copy from internal to external using file commander.
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ericjennings said:
The pre-installed File Commander can write to the internal storage. So getting files onto the external add card is two stages. I copy over WiFi from my NAS to internal storage using ES file explorer, then copy from internal to external using file commander.
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Thanks for that, I found that File Commander trick earlier. Problem I had to get around was I went nuts and installed every single app I ever bought but couldn't use properly on my old phones - namely the GTA games which were broken for my Xperia S. I ran out of internal storage within hours of getting my Z2... I got over-excited. I've calmed down now and deleted a load so there's more space and my SD card works fine now when in a card reader.
I've never been able to manage files directly from Explorer on my PC though when the phone is directly connected, either on the S and now the Z2. I think it worked to a point on my Xperia X10 but I mostly used Wifi File Explorer... which isn't working on my Z2 unfortunately, probably due to the Kit Kat restrictions mentioned.
I can kind of see why they did that - my phones used to get full of mystery folders full of crap over time - but it's a shame it breaks a lot of the old ways I used to get things done.
Anyway I apologise if we've gone off topic but thanks everyone for your very helpful hints and advice. I'm actually looking forward to getting my O2 Xperia Z tablet with the bundled offer (£99 for an Xperia Z tablet, yes please O2!) because it will most likely be permanently stuck on good, old-fashioned Jelly Bean. I've not seen much in Kit Kat that has thrilled me. I don't think I'd update to Kit Kat if I had a choice given how firmly a grip of your nuts they have now.
Cheers!
Hey guys with the 128gb card. How does 4K video go when writing to the card? Is it fast enough?
robt772000 said:
Hey guys with the 128gb card. How does 4K video go when writing to the card? Is it fast enough?
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Hi I don't have a 128gb in mines but rather a Sandisk ULTRA 64Gb class 10 SDXC card.
I shot a 2 minute 4k video this afternoon which was saved directly onto the SDcard and on playback there seemed to be no problems whatsoever playing it back.
I hope that helps.
I have a 128gb card. Just recorded 1 minute of 4k to sd card and played back without problems. File size 391mb.
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What sort of write speeds do you get?
I'm thinking of buying this to replace my 64gb card.
Hi !
I have just install my new a1 sdcard in my tab s3, but as I can see I not still be able to install more apps than with my previous non a1 sdcard ! So all is the same but I suppose that the sd is just faster....
This is happening also in my s7 edge.
A1 sdcard was not suppose to let us install any app directly into the sd (not even just move some of them) ?
Is there anything I am missing? Any special format or whatever?
Many thanks !
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If you want to install apps on the SD Card (are you asking this question) then you may want to try the Storage Enabler patch. If this isn't what you're after then I do not know what you're saying (sorry).
I was tempted to reply but I was not sure about his query, if it is about moving apps to the Micro SD card, then this is easy: Settings>Apps, tap on any app, Storage>change, you can choose either External storage or Internal storage. Some apps will allow moving some won't.
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I was tempted to reply but I was not sure about his query, if it is about moving apps to the Micro SD card, then this is easy: Settings>Apps, tap on any app, Storage>change, you can choose either External storage or Internal storage. Some apps will allow moving some won't.
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The question is about the new A1 app performance sdcards... I thought with this kind of new cards I was going to be able to move any app to sd (now there are so many apps that cannot be moved to the sd) or even install the app directly to the SD card... But seems these new a1 cards are working just the same than normal sdcards...
So the question is... Is there anything I am not doing.... Or A1 cards works exactly the same but faster?
Many thanks.
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The question is about the new A1 app performance sdcards... I thought with this kind of new cards I was going to be able to move any app to sd (now there are so many apps that cannot be moved to the sd) or even install the app directly to the SD card... But seems these new a1 cards are working just the same than normal sdcards...
So the question is... Is there anything I am not doing.... Or A1 cards works exactly the same but faster?
Many thanks.
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Okay, I see what you mean now. It's a new standard (read as "label" ) to throw on an SD card. It means nothing. At least personally I see at meaning nothing because every manufacturer these days tosses a confusing specification on a card that may or may not live up to it promise, so I'd seriously recommend checking out some SD card reviews and benchmarks instead of relying off a label (here's one site that reviews cards based on read/write and price/performance). Making this suggestion for you due to how some cards don't even live up to what they have printed on the card/packaging anyhow.
I don't even pay attention to SD card marketing anymore, it's ridiculous. Just find a card with tested high read and high write (because that's what your "a1" label really is).
I bought a Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB UHS-1 U3 card a while ago for my Windows tablet but moved it into a Sony Xperia X Compact instead. I can use apps and take burst shots with the camera at the same time with it.
It's probably the best bang for your buck but there are slightly faster cards out there. I can't test it in the TabS3 because apps are installed on it, but on the Windows tablet I was getting near 60MB/s write and 260MB/s read (using a clean image on both devices where data was never written, to remove the possibility of re-enabling deleted data).
I'm getting a Samsung Evo + 256GB card (UHS-1 U3, mind they also released a UHS-1 U1 card so it's something to look for when shopping) for this tablet so what I'll do is test on the Windows tablet to see what this card is really capable of, then test the speed of the card using the TabS3.
I'd have used the Sandisk card but it's being used already. I wanted big and fast because I deal with music software and loading/reloading WAV files needs to be easy and not take all day :laugh:
TL;DR: Read up on benchmarks rather than relying off an SD card's specification label because very few SD cards ever live up to the spec they advertise.
To install apps directly to an sd-card, you need to enable Adoptable Storage via this patch
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Okay, I see what you mean now. It's a new standard (read as "label" ) to throw on an SD card. It means nothing. At least personally I see at meaning nothing because every manufacturer these days tosses a confusing specification on a card that may or may not live up to it promise, so I'd seriously recommend checking out some SD card reviews and benchmarks instead of relying off a label (here's one site that reviews cards based on read/write and price/performance). Making this suggestion for you due to how some cards don't even live up to what they have printed on the card/packaging anyhow.
I don't even pay attention to SD card marketing anymore, it's ridiculous. Just find a card with tested high read and high write (because that's what your "a1" label really is).
I bought a Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB UHS-1 U3 card a while ago for my Windows tablet but moved it into a Sony Xperia X Compact instead. I can use apps and take burst shots with the camera at the same time with it.
It's probably the best bang for your buck but there are slightly faster cards out there. I can't test it in the TabS3 because apps are installed on it, but on the Windows tablet I was getting near 60MB/s write and 260MB/s read (using a clean image on both devices where data was never written, to remove the possibility of re-enabling deleted data).
I'm getting a Samsung Evo + 256GB card (UHS-1 U3, mind they also released a UHS-1 U1 card so it's something to look for when shopping) for this tablet so what I'll do is test on the Windows tablet to see what this card is really capable of, then test the speed of the card using the TabS3.
I'd have used the Sandisk card but it's being used already. I wanted big and fast because I deal with music software and loading/reloading WAV files needs to be easy and not take all day :laugh:
TL;DR: Read up on benchmarks rather than relying off an SD card's specification label because very few SD cards ever live up to the spec they advertise.
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I don´t know If u had read about these cards before... I have SanDisk Extreme 128GB Class 10, U3, V30, A1, No matter how expensive is the card but if the card is not an A1 card the aleatory access is not good enough...
A1 means this cards are much much faster for aleatory access / read... and after some bench I have to say that difference is so big... So the card is working well and very fast both sequential and aleatory...
Anyway I thought This kind of cards could be considered by Android in a special way... and let us to install any app in it with no restrictions and without any patch or root mod... but as I can see.... no luck.... again after some installed apps.... memory problems are here again... no matter if you have 200 free GB in your SD.... so bad....
Many thanks !