[Q] unlocking question - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am using a Motorola Atrix with 4.5.91 build. I rooted my Atrix without unlocking the bootloader which is why I am getting a (Failed to boot 2 Starting in RSD Mode) message when i try to use Rom Manager to back up my current Rom. Do I have to unroot my Atrix in order to unlock it and if so how do I unroot it.

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My question was does it have to be done in that certain order. Unlock Bootloader then root.

Sousuke_Kira_Alexein said:
My question was does it have to be done in that certain order. Unlock Bootloader then root.
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No it doesn't matter...
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Sousuke_Kira_Alexein said:
I am using a Motorola Atrix with 4.5.91 build. I rooted my Atrix without unlocking the bootloader which is why I am getting a (Failed to boot 2 Starting in RSD Mode) message when i try to use Rom Manager to back up my current Rom. Do I have to unroot my Atrix in order to unlock it and if so how do I unroot it.
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try to follow the order and see if its worked. any particular reason why you need not to follow the order?

Sousuke_Kira_Alexein said:
My question was does it have to be done in that certain order. Unlock Bootloader then root.
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mramirezusa's auto scripts really help on this. Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871

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[Q] Help 2.3.4 locked boot

Okay guys, i flashed the 2.3.4 ota as soon as it came out (before all this trouble with it of course) and now i am stuck because i was under the impression that the new bootloader would be unlocked so i had never even though about eating any pudding before the fact. Now i come to my trouble, im running a totally stock 2.3.4 att and i cant seem to find a way out.
Question #1- If i have a locked bootloader can i fruitcake back?
Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader?
Question #3- How in heck do i get root, im on windows 7 and i recently tried the two bat files that one of the devs released and they were a no go, it didnt seem to flash the preinstall when i tried to look for it, it wasnt there. I have been quietly trying to fix this on my own for days now i am asking for a little help. Im stumped.
I got root using the /preinstall method with those 2 .bat files posted yesterday.
From page 30-35 is the guidance I followed from mramirezusa.
Other than that we are in the same boat.. I read puddings will flash relatively safely.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159950&page=30
cthomas5714 said:
Okay guys, i flashed the 2.3.4 ota as soon as it came out (before all this trouble with it of course) and now i am stuck because i was under the impression that the new bootloader would be unlocked so i had never even though about eating any pudding before the fact. Now i come to my trouble, im running a totally stock 2.3.4 att and i cant seem to find a way out.
Question #1- If i have a locked bootloader can i fruitcake back?
Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader?
Question #3- How in heck do i get root, im on windows 7 and i recently tried the two bat files that one of the devs released and they were a no go, it didnt seem to flash the preinstall when i tried to look for it, it wasnt there. I have been quietly trying to fix this on my own for days now i am asking for a little help. Im stumped.
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Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader? yes use pudding
cthomas5714 said:
Okay guys, i flashed the 2.3.4 ota as soon as it came out (before all this trouble with it of course) and now i am stuck because i was under the impression that the new bootloader would be unlocked so i had never even though about eating any pudding before the fact. Now i come to my trouble, im running a totally stock 2.3.4 att and i cant seem to find a way out.
Question #1- If i have a locked bootloader can i fruitcake back?
Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader?
Question #3- How in heck do i get root, im on windows 7 and i recently tried the two bat files that one of the devs released and they were a no go, it didnt seem to flash the preinstall when i tried to look for it, it wasnt there. I have been quietly trying to fix this on my own for days now i am asking for a little help. Im stumped.
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hey man first things first. dont panic, you are not stuck. this is temporary at best, in the mean while theres plenty of stuff you can do, sbf is not safe to begin with. so actually be gladd you only got to use RSD one time
first things first, get yourselfed unlocked, pudding will do the trick. once after pudding, you never have to touch RSD
Once you are done with pudding go ahead and get tenfars unlocked cwm
once you are done with that you are free to flash pretty much all the roms, as usually custom roms, or fruit cakes dont have bl, only the rest
enjoy
Okay guys, thanks for your help. but let me get this clear, i do not have a unlocked bootloader, im a pudding virgin. I can simply rsd the 1.83 with pudding and thats it? No worries no nothing?
cthomas5714 said:
Okay guys, thanks for your help. but let me get this clear, i do not have a unlocked bootloader, im a pudding virgin. I can simply rsd the 1.83 with pudding and thats it? No worries no nothing?
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Yes but you still can't use any other sbf. I'd use the raw pudding sbf, unlock, then use CWM from here on out. No more rsd
Sorry about that. There is just the unlock and then the unlock packaged with 1.8.3. The one that has has been causing bricks from my understanding is the packaged one. Be sure you flash just the unlock.
Anyone know what exactly will be erased from /data after flashing the unlock? Also I don't want to restore backed up files that will conflict with new ones. Any guidance on this is appreciated.
snudmusk said:
Sorry about that. There is just the unlock and then the unlock packaged with 1.8.3. The one that has has been causing bricks from my understanding is the packaged one. Be sure you flash just the unlock.
Anyone know what exactly will be erased from /data after flashing the unlock? Also I don't want to restore backed up files that will conflict with new ones. Any guidance on this is appreciated.
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All user data is wiped when unlocking. The 1.8.3 sbf with pudding is safe to flash but i recommend just using pudding and then CWM and ditch rsd.
jruweaver said:
All user data is wiped when unlocking. The 1.8.3 sbf with pudding is safe to flash but i recommend just using pudding and then CWM and ditch rsd.
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Agree, just use the pudding only sbf. to unlock , then preinstall to get root.
Make sure to have 50 or so battery so you don't run into the trouble I had with battery being to low to fastboot. Also once you flash pudding you wont be able to boot the phone, don't panic just follow steps to fastboot oem unlock and phone will boot fine afterwards.
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woahh no bad idea, im scared. I did exactly as you all said and it acts like its hard bricked, SVF:105 error but then it says no OS detected and i have 14 options
1RSD
2Fastboot
3Nvflash
4-9BP something
9Android recovery
10Boot android (no bp)
11Device UID
12Console
13early usb enumeration
14BP tools
WHAT DO I DO?
cthomas5714 said:
woahh no bad idea, im scared. I did exactly as you all said and it acts like its hard bricked, SVF:105 error but then it says no OS detected and i have 14 options
1RSD
2Fastboot
3Nvflash
4-9BP something
9Android recovery
10Boot android (no bp)
11Device UID
12Console
13early usb enumeration
14BP tools
WHAT DO I DO?
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Which did you flash? Pudding or 1.8.3 with pudding?
Try connecting your phone to pc select fastboot and finish the pudding instructions (fastboot oem unlock)
It might boot then.
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Here is what I did.
1. If you were to update to the OTA 4.5.91. Or already on the OTA 4.5.91 you can still unlock your bootloader.
2. Flash pudding only SBF so you can unlock the bootloader. http://diamantephoto.com/fastboot.rar direct link. Flash this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1136261 Original Post about pudding.
It will go to a text only 14 option screen and say something like boot failed 0x1000. Don't freak out and tell me you bricked you phone blah blah blah. You still have to unlock the bootloader by choosing fastboot from your phone and connecting it to the computer via usb. Make sure you have ADB with fastboot tools installed on you computer.
Open command prompt from you computer and type fastboot oem unlock. It'll display warning about voiding warranty and a unique device id. Type again fastboot oem unlock ############. The # are the unique device numbers. Don't type # it wont work. The instructions are posted on the pudding thread if you would like to read more about it.
Then type fastboot reboot to reboot. Unlock should be displayed on top left of screen and it'll take 5 long mins to boot up.
3.Then you need to install CWM and root.
You'll find instructions in the developers form. But if your lazy here is the CWM link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1138541 follow the instructions or every time you reboot you will loose CWM. For root there are two available for gingerbread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1140110 I used this one and got root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1138204 I hear this works too.. Haven't tested read the post if you want to use this method.
As always don't blame me for bricking if you happen to do so. DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. these are the steps I took to unlock and everything works great. Absolutely no problems with my phone after wards.
One thing unlocking your bootloader will format/erase data. Basically a factory data reset so make sure you backup everything with titanium or you favorite app. I would not restore system apps as i've had a few problems with email and motoblur force closes.
Is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader?
five3zero said:
Is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader?
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Yes.
Follow the instructions listed on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15023030
The 3rd post has the instructions I followed.
If you have problems be sure to read through the thread as someone else has most likely already had the same issue.
This worked for me.
cthomas5714 said:
woahh no bad idea, im scared. I did exactly as you all said and it acts like its hard bricked, SVF:105 error but then it says no OS detected and i have 14 options
1RSD
2Fastboot
3Nvflash
4-9BP something
9Android recovery
10Boot android (no bp)
11Device UID
12Console
13early usb enumeration
14BP tools
WHAT DO I DO?
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Just do: fastboot oem unlock (or whatever tthe code is)
Them: fastboot reboot
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Can i unlock my atrix if i used the official att update is it safe i wanna flash a new rom i have the instructions how to just not sure if its safe i read all these people saying its not on some of these forums
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Yes, but when you flash pudding, you will get soft bricked (don't worry) you'll have 5 seconds to put your phone is fastboot mode, when done just continue the process and you should be fine. I unlocked on official 2.3.4, and I'm doing good
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526&highlight=sbf+2.3.4
this thread has a ton of information on what to expect. I did it and its worked fine
mvolkhart said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526&highlight=sbf+2.3.4
this thread has a ton of information on what to expect. I did it and its worked fine
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OP says "i used the official att update", so I'm assuming he's already on Gingerbread. No need to flash a full SBF just to unlock it then, and flashing full SBFs is no longer recommended except as a last resort.
Pudding.sbf is the way to go (just a megabyte), and here's the easiest way to do it:
Automatic bootloader UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
OP, this is as safe as it gets. If you are already on GB then you will get a soft brick after the initial unlock attempt but mramirezusa script warns you of this and tells you exactly what to do about it. Just make sure that you have the latest Motorola USB drivers installed before you do any of this.
The script will unlock your phone, install a special ClockworkMod for Atrix 4G, and install su for root access. After this is all done you will want to apply any future updates via ClockworkMod in your phone's Fastboot menu. Don't mess around with SBFs unless you absolutely need to, and definitely do not apply an SBF for an earlier version of the phone's firmware or you will hard brick your phone.
Good luck!
Javi97100 said:
Yes, but when you flash pudding, you will get soft bricked (don't worry) you'll have 5 seconds to put your phone is fastboot mode, when done just continue the process and you should be fine. I unlocked on official 2.3.4, and I'm doing good
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^^^ THIS ^^^
mramirezusa's script rocks.
Thanku man now I was scared to softbrick my phone so I used my older atrix that I have laying around I unlocked using that method but im on 4.1.26 now the prob im having is how to safley update to gb now without losing my unlock any ideas
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For your 4.1.26 unlocked phone it would be easiest to just do the full 4.5.91 SBF with unlocked bootloader and /preinstall root as another poster suggested: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526&highlight=sbf+2.3.4

recovery without bootloader unlocking.. possible?

so i'm about to install 4.5.91 in a few hours.. gonna backup lots of data first..
im trying to avoid bootloader unlocking for the meanwhile cause of the warranty issue and the fact u cannot re-lock.
anyway i just grabbed ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.rar and ill flash it over the gladiatrix 1.8.3 i have currently on the device (will it work?)
later i intend to use the preroot method and root and of course.. install a recovery BUT.. since the new recovery needs an unlocked bootloader.. ill use the previous one with the battery charging hack
so.. what do you think guys? will it work?
p0xer said:
so i'm about to install 4.5.91 in a few hours.. gonna backup lots of data first..
im trying to avoid bootloader unlocking for the meanwhile cause of the warranty issue and the fact u cannot re-lock.
anyway i just grabbed ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.rar and ill flash it over the gladiatrix 1.8.3 i have currently on the device (will it work?)
later i intend to use the preroot method and root and of course.. install a recovery BUT.. since the new recovery needs an unlocked bootloader.. ill use the previous one with the battery charging hack
so.. what do you think guys? will it work?
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I would assume the att-2.3.4_pudding_preroot already is preunlocked (hence the pudding) which defeats your purpose?
Also, what would the purposed of the old plugged in Recovery? It won't install any of the new ROMs and I don't think the nandroid back up really works that well.
not quite.. its just have the "pudding" in it.. you'll have to perform an unlock with fastboot to void warranty.
p0xer said:
not quite.. its just have the "pudding" in it.. you'll have to perform an unlock with fastboot to void warranty.
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Ok, so the other question - point of the old recovery? Just to help you wipe data/cache/batterystats?
The old recovery will still save him... You shouldn't need to be unlocked to do that.
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The old recovery will still save him... You shouldn't need to be unlocked to do that.
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save him from what and how? other than wiping data... he can't flash anything that can save him...
Indeed I think he can backup with old tenfar's recovery. The problem is that the sfb he wants to flash is the incorrect one, you can't use the prerooted without unlock the BL at least for the version I know. In other hand The update process is kinda complicated without unlocking the BL, if you do it OTA you will also update the BL and that one can't be unlocked now also could leave you bricked if flash back to 1.8.3.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163342
gives stock 2.3.4 without touching bootloader.
you should be able to use preinstall method to root then i think.
He needs to unlock the BL to flash kennp image files.
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Kelvin0007 said:
He needs to unlock the BL to flash kennp image files.
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yeah my bad.

[Q] Revocery mode issue

Hi all, i rooted my phone (2.3.4 MB860) and when I try to get in recovery mod and make backup I cant, I get error. Tried other root program, and still got the same.
manyelski said:
Hi all, i rooted my phone (2.3.4 MB860) and when I try to get in recovery mod and make backup I cant, I get error. Tried other root program, and still got the same.
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Need unlocked bootloader to backup.
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Shoud I root with a diffrent program ( Oneclickroot 2.3.3 is ok ?)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
manyelski said:
Shoud I root with a diffrent program ( Oneclickroot 2.3.3 is ok ?)
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Root does not equal unlocked bootloader. Read the important information in every thread before you attempt to use what they post. Else, you wind up looking like an idiot, like you do now. Now if you want to do nandroid, follow the link in the post above and unlock your bootloader.
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Can I unlock my bootloader, after my phone was rooted ? Or should I unroot it, unlock the bootloader and than root it again ?
Rooting your phone, and unlocking bootloader are 2 different things.
Rooting is for your ROM, while unlocking bootloader is for your phone...

New Atrix 4G user needs help

Hi guys,
Just now got a new Atrix 4G off Amazon. It's an AT&T unlocked one. I am totally confused with all the processes posted here about unlocking the boot loader and stuff. I used to be a Defy user, but rooting and installing ROMs in Defy were a bit simpler than this.
Model - MB860
System - 4.5.141.MB860.ATT.en.US
Android version - 2.3.6
Kernel - 2.6.32.9
I want to flash either MIUI or Cyanogenmod. Should I unlock the bootloader first or root first. Can anybody help me out, pointing the right links? I couldn't find any guide for 2.3.6. and I don't want to brick my device.
Thanks a ton in advance
Wolvish
Whenever getting my Atrix replaced by Best Buy Mobile, I find these steps easier to follow in lesser words:
1. download ROM of choice and place it on the internal memory card
2. use automatic boot loader script
3. flash Romracer's recovery via command prompt
4. flash ROM
5. profit!
It's just easier to do this vs. rooting the phone/stock ROM first, finding that install-recovery.sh crap, and then doing the process to unlock the bootloader/flashing custom ROMs.
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Read the threads you think don't cover 2.3.6. They have recent comments so you should assume people commenting might be on 2.3.6. I was on the same version as you and I'm unlocked and running CM10. The titles of the methods aren't updated but they still work (some of them) for yours. The threads god into amazing detail about how you do it, but make sure you read the comments too because those are more up to date than the original post. And if you say it's unlocked already then why would you unlock it again? If you boot up your phone and it says unlocked in the upper right corner when the motorola symbol is up then you are past the hard part. After that just get a custom recovery (Romracers) and flash your ROM
TotalBS said:
Read the threads you think don't cover 2.3.6. They have recent comments so you should assume people commenting might be on 2.3.6. I was on the same version as you and I'm unlocked and running CM10. The titles of the methods aren't updated but they still work (some of them) for yours. The threads god into amazing detail about how you do it, but make sure you read the comments too because those are more up to date than the original post. And if you say it's unlocked already then why would you unlock it again? If you boot up your phone and it says unlocked in the upper right corner when the motorola symbol is up then you are past the hard part. After that just get a custom recovery (Romracers) and flash your ROM
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It does not show 'unlocked' during boot up. It's unlocked from AT&T (working with my SIM card). Isn't that different from a unlocked bootloader? So I should do that pudding thing next? BTW what is automatic boot loader script?
I read that downgrading from 4.5.141 is causing hardbrick, that's why I'm scared..
Deggy said:
1. download ROM of choice and place it on the internal memory card
2. use automatic boot loader script
3. flash Romracer's recovery via command prompt
4. flash ROM
5. profit!
It's just easier to do this vs. rooting the phone/stock ROM first, finding that install-recovery.sh crap, and then doing the process to unlock the bootloader/flashing custom ROMs.
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Can I do this for any ROM? I'm pretty much satisfied with MIUI, not going to try anything else.
Yes any ROM. Read the sticky in the Atrix general forum. The noob guide one.
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WolVish said:
It does not show 'unlocked' during boot up. It's unlocked from AT&T (working with my SIM card). Isn't that different from a unlocked bootloader?
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Yes, two completely different things.
AT&T has absolutely nothing to do with your bootloader. You need to deal with that yourself. And yes, you need pudding for that.
Can I use this method instead?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Motorola_Atrix_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
It's the same exact thing.

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