What ROM would you reccomend putting on my tab?
Starburst or Task650's KME V5.
anyones own experience with each and is there any differences .
You really have to see for yourself. I'm giving Starburst a go now for a few days and it's excellent. However this weekend I will try Task650's. It's a five minute job to flash a ROM, so give it a go
I recommend you try one for a few days and then the other.
I'm not trying to harsh your mellow, but this type of thread doesn't add anything to the community. Just inspires 1) responses like mine; 2) flame wars over perceived differences; or 3) some troll (you know who you are) who says "custom ROMs are all very unstable. It is recommended that you stay with the stock ROM."
piam said:
What ROM would you reccomend putting on my tab?
Starburst or Task650's KME V5.
anyones own experience with each and is there any differences .
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starburst sucks! lol. it only takes a minute or 2. why not try them both to do some real world testing instead of hear-say bro. thats the only way to know which one you and your device likes better.
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starburst sucks! lol. it only takes a minute or 2. why not try them both to do some real world testing instead of hear-say bro. thats the only way to know which one you and your device likes better.
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I beg to differ... but really there the same base... not going to be a ton of difference.
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I beg to differ... but really there the same base... not going to be a ton of difference.
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Lmao. Yep. Both KME, both fast as hell, and both better to use than stock!
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starburst sucks! lol. it only takes a minute or 2. why not try them both to do some real world testing instead of hear-say bro. thats the only way to know which one you and your device likes better.
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I beg to differ... but really there the same base... not going to be a ton of difference.
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Catfight!!!
I bought a tab from Best Buy a week ago to try it out, and I just left stock TouchWiz on there since I knew I was going to be returning it. Stock TW is infuriating.
I bought a tab from Newegg (this time the keeper one), and oddly enough it came with vanilla android 3.1 (!) I went ahead and flashed the Starburst ROM over it though.
Here's my opinion for what its worth. Both Starburst and vanilla 3.1 are a farcry better than stock TW. I barely had a chance to use vanilla 3.1 before flashing to Starburst, so I'd have a hard time saying which of those is better. (I'm inclined to say vanilla 3.1 just out of my loathing for TW.) Vanilla 3.1 just seems a lot cleaner, a lot more is black which means less battery drain, and there's no bloody screenshot button to keep accidentally pressing.
There's my long-winded, rambling way of agreeing that pretty much anything is better than stock TW.
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I bought a tab from Best Buy a week ago to try it out, and I just left stock TouchWiz on there since I knew I was going to be returning it. Stock TW is infuriating.
I bought a tab from Newegg (this time the keeper one), and oddly enough it came with vanilla android 3.1 (!) I went ahead and flashed the Starburst ROM over it though.
Here's my opinion for what its worth. Both Starburst and vanilla 3.1 are a farcry better than stock TW. I barely had a chance to use vanilla 3.1 before flashing to Starburst, so I'd have a hard time saying which of those is better. (I'm inclined to say vanilla 3.1 just out of my loathing for TW.) Vanilla 3.1 just seems a lot cleaner, a lot more is black which means less battery drain, and there's no bloody screenshot button to keep accidentally pressing.
There's my long-winded, rambling way of agreeing that pretty much anything is better than stock TW.
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Well my rom rapes me at night. So that's way better then starburst or vanilla 3.1. No homo. Thanks phantom!
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Well my rom rapes me at night. So that's way better then starburst or vanilla 3.1. No homo. Thanks phantom!
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Obabi, might need to switch ROMs now....
I've been using Task650's ROM since I got my tab, I'm waiting for Phantom to release his 3.2 AOSP which he says fix all the lag that is plaguing our tablets now :/, though Task650 did a great job at removing almost all the lag, I don't know about starburst though, haven't tried it but can vouch for Task650's ROM being great!
Here's my 2 cent. I have been using starburst rom for quite a while. I notice tht starburst is great at benchmark n smooth for a while but somehow the feel of smoothness degrades after a while. No idea why. Task650 rom however score crap in benchmark but crazy smooth in usage and doesn't degrade much even after long usage. I also kndda dig the theme on task650 especially the hidden tw middle button.
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I bought a tab from Best Buy a week ago to try it out, and I just left stock TouchWiz on there since I knew I was going to be returning it. Stock TW is infuriating.
I bought a tab from Newegg (this time the keeper one), and oddly enough it came with vanilla android 3.1 (!) I went ahead and flashed the Starburst ROM over it though.
Here's my opinion for what its worth. Both Starburst and vanilla 3.1 are a farcry better than stock TW. I barely had a chance to use vanilla 3.1 before flashing to Starburst, so I'd have a hard time saying which of those is better. (I'm inclined to say vanilla 3.1 just out of my loathing for TW.) Vanilla 3.1 just seems a lot cleaner, a lot more is black which means less battery drain, and there's no bloody screenshot button to keep accidentally pressing.
There's my long-winded, rambling way of agreeing that pretty much anything is better than stock TW.
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This I had to laugh. You bought the Tab10 with Vanilla 3.1 ROM. You flashed Starburst and you stated both are far better than stock touchwiz ROM when you NEVER even used it. I find this VERY funny.
Second, you state having a black/darker theme would produce less battery drain. You dont even know that the Tab10 uses an LCD technology NOT AMOLED. You can have an entire white screen on one Tab 10 and entire black screen on another and they would have the same battery life because the Tab10 does not use AMOLED screens.
Third you provided NO reason or arguments as to WHY you think the Vanilla and Starburst ROMs are better than stock touchwiz. You are making things up out of thin air. Very bad form IMO.
Thanks for that bit about the LCD screen, didn't know that.
Gonna keep this brief since you're a known troll, but I did try the vanilla 3.1 and stock TW.
try both and see which one you like more... but yeah its all personal preferences....
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im on trigger 3.0.0.1 and i want to switch i either want eugenes "gcr3" and axura
I just went from trigger to CM7 and definitely loving it. I waited until it was stable with good battery life. I highly recommend it
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im on trigger 3.0.0.1 and i want to switch i either want eugenes "gcr3" and axura
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I'm loving Axura. I put the Erebos theme on top, and used the Bali kernel, and it's terrific. Seems speedy, no real lag (maybe a half-second to open Handcent). Everything's smooth. Battery is pretty great. I'm getting 30-ish hours per charge (light-ish use), give or take (I'm at 26% after 18 hrs right now, with 88% of that number display use and 4% cell standby, which I think is pretty good).
I'm running CM7 right now, and it's absolutely amazing.
Except for a little battery drain (will be more until you mess with settings to make it drain less), and the whole GPS thing on GB, it's great.
trigger, bionix, malice and bi-winning . fastest ill say malice and bi with bullet.
Man, if i had a dollar for everytime i saw one of these threads.....
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Man, if i had a dollar for everytime i saw one of these threads.....
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True, but I honestly find them useful in terms of frequency. The developers are doing such great work so consistently often I think it's great to read what people are using from day to day and week to week.
The most major problem I found with ROMs has been a lack of coverage of them. The threads are great to find out what's been updated when, but sometimes there's very little guidance in terms of how updates improve (or don't) usability.
Because, honestly, just up above, I noted my favorite ROM right now is Axura on a Vibrant, but two weeks ago it might have been Bionix or Trigger, and I'm fairly sure the latter two have been upgraded in that amount of time. Plus there's the new Heathen, and Simply Galaxy, and now that Android's up to 2.3.4 it's only a matter of time before that makes it to a Vibrant ROM, most likely.
In other words, instead of commenting on the nature of the thread, why not be useful and contribute? Some of us like to discuss what we're using at any given moment, and some of us flash new ROMs from week to week.
This same topic would have had entirely different comments just last week. The only really possible solution to avoid them would be to create a new sub-forum for each device that included threads reviewing each ROM.
And I, for one, would love such a feature.
I've been using Heathens Private stock 2.2.1. version and its a very good rom. It's beautiful and very smooth even without voodoo.
I like Simply Galaxy RC3.2.1 its a 2.3.3 rom and it's sleek and fast.
I also like it because the install instructions are easy. LOL.
i've been running bionix-v for close to a year now and since then have been out of the loop. what's the consensus top tier of roms currently, and should i update to a newer android (ICS? idk) since i am on a VERY old version (on android 2.2!)
I like cm7 nightly. Works well, gps works for me, battery is okay. Get around twenty hours. I get random battery drains though when I'm using meebo or
something
I've flash so many roms and fell in love with miui for a long time
I'm so sick of all the aggravations of things working and not working blah blah.....I just went back to bionix myself 2 days ago and I now have a new found love for everything working as it should
But everyone should play around and enjoy the differences.
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i found bionix not very snappy, and im stuck on froyo. surely the gingerbread/ics offers some better upgrades?
MIUI (based on 2.3.7 gingerbread), without a doubt. And to make your life easier here's a link to my guide that will take you through all the steps on getting your phone to run the custom firmware. MIUI is easily customizable, smooth, and stable. Then when you add the Glitch kernel to the mix you get a truly amazing result (Increased speed + Amazing Battery). I used to use Bionix and it was great, but MIUI offers so much more.
The pace at which the ICS ROMs are improving is pretty awesome, and definitely something to get excited about. I never really bothered with Gingerbread, everytime I tried a 2.3 ROM I ended up going back to 2.2 within a week. Currently trying the I9000 ICS port, but my fallback is usually Toxic Crazy8 with a GB theme slapped on.
2.3 has worse battery life than 2.2. The ICS roms are coming along nicely, but not really a daily yet (in my opinion). I would try out Team Toxics JCCs D9. its on rc2 and the final should be up today or tomorrow. It has great battery and is very snappy. link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360502
There is an ICS port in the making. The creator being neobuddy89. However it is in the beta stages and not something you'd want to use as a daily rom. Still you should check it out, it looks really nice and is very smooth. I'll post a link in a few...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362961
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i found bionix not very snappy, and im stuck on froyo. surely the gingerbread/ics offers some better upgrades?
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I agree with you...its not very snappy at all...was startung to really miss miui lol until i found crazy 8 and i am loving it....hoping its the one for me lol...otherwise ill be back to miui
Bionix wasn't the snappiest, but I found that the NextGen V2 had the same theming and was much smoother. From my experience it had some stuttering issues from a lack of RAM though.
I'm interested in trying the new Phiremod as well though, I like the theming on it.
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I'm interested in trying the new Phiremod as well though, I like the theming on it.
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Just took a look at it and it looks really nice. Thinking I might go and give it a whirl later this week.
What's in my sig right now is working flawlessly for me. I think I've finally found a combination that I'll be using until we get our first official taste of ICS. Been going for about a week now with this combo and it's solid, looks great, and battery life is well above what I was getting with stock.
Do you all prefer to test various roms for the sake of testing or are you trying to find that ONE permanent solution... for at least a good month or two?
Noo sadly i haven't. I like to try new things though
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If I wanted one single rom/theme/kernel to always use without tinkering, I'd still be using my iphone.
Today, I'm on unnamed 1.3.1, Entropy's 12/1 DD, no installed theme. I have modified a few things on this device myself (auto-bright levels, adding AOSP VoiceDialer (to enable BT voice dialing), etc.)
Take care
Gary
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If I wanted one single rom/theme/kernel to always use without tinkering, I'd still be using my iphone.
Today, I'm on unnamed 1.3.1, Entropy's 12/1 DD, no installed theme. I have modified a few things on this device myself (auto-bright levels, adding AOSP VoiceDialer (to enable BT voice dialing), etc.)
Take care
Gary
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how much of a difference does Entropy's 12/1 kernel make vs. the one that comes with the ROM? I don't care about BLN.
Definitely like the galnet miui (recently blocked from xda).
Themes are very customizable and has lot of styling without sacrificing the battery.
Cm7 kernel on conservative/noop at 200-1.2 works perfectly for me
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If I wanted one single rom/theme/kernel to always use without tinkering, I'd still be using my iphone.
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This ^^
I pretty much flash every ROM I can find, if I like it I keep it until anew one comes along. Right now I'm on Task's ICS'd Out ROM- and it kicks ass. not quite as good battery as unnamed, but it looks sexy and is really customizable through JKay Mods and TW 4.5...
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I pretty much flash every ROM I can find, if I like it I keep it until anew one comes along. Right now I'm on Task's ICS'd Out ROM- and it kicks ass. not quite as good battery as unnamed, but it looks sexy and is really customizable through JKay Mods and TW 4.5...
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Dang it, I was hoping it wasn't that good. I've been trying to talk myself into sticking with UnNamed/Entropy 12.1/ICScrewD/CircularBatteryMod/GlowingSBoot.
Oh, well. I hope CircularBatteryMod works on ICS'd...
I think I'm sticking with MIUI on mine. The combination of aesthetics and configurability can't be beat, IMHO. It's also very stable, and I get great battery life. I wouldn't go back to a stock based ROM, it would have to be either MIUI or CM.
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Dang it, I was hoping it wasn't that good. I've been trying to talk myself into sticking with UnNamed/Entropy 12.1/ICScrewD/CircularBatteryMod/GlowingSBoot.
Oh, well. I hope CircularBatteryMod works on ICS'd...
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Haha yeah, thats what I was using. That combo might be slightly more functional, and with ICScrewd it probably looks good too. But for me the good looks stock and extra customizability of Task's make it better for my use. Really, it is whatever works for you though, I'd try both and see which works better.
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how much of a difference does Entropy's 12/1 kernel make vs. the one that comes with the ROM? I don't care about BLN.
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im interested in knowing this too
Started on Unnamed... tried miui for about a week, liked some things about it but felt too prepackaged/ifruity and went back to Unnamed - a great ROM, indeed.
Loaded Task650's ICS'd yesterday and v2 update today... been messing with it too much to compare battery life, but really impressed with ability to customize, with snappiness, and with smoothness. Wifi and cell signals seem stronger, too. Think I'm sticking with this for a while,with Unnamed as a backup plan.
I am running Criskelo rom v31 with entopys kernel.I also have a modified Galaxy Blue theme on it great battery performance and looks great.I love using JKays app. I would like to think I will stay on this for a long time but I have a flashing addiction
checkrom v4 2.3.6 hellraised entropys latest will be with what I stick with. stable and smooth
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I went ahead and flashed entropy's latest daily driver. Not sure how much or if it has improved anything, but nothing seems broken or worse. Note, I don't use BLN.
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Is anyone who's using an I9000 based ROM also using a corp exchange account that requires a PIN? I'm having issues with that combo.
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Like everyone, I ran with various stock-modded ROMs (Perception, Serendipity8). But I settled with Cognition777 (i9100XWKJ3 framework), themed w/ICS Domination which utilizes JKAY mods and I am running SiyahKernel v2.3. I really dig the look, feel, stability; which, is rock solid and most importantly battery life. I have really enjoyed the added options the framework allows, plus the JKAY features are a must-have. I will definitely stay with this setup for many months, until something more solid or impressive comes out.
Only issue I have discovered is the GB built-in tethering doesn't work, which is no biggie for me as I just use the google root-users wired tether app when I need tethering. Wireless tether is just too much of a drain on the battery to ever, be considered useful.
Started out with CM7... Realized google didnt save my app data and what not, so i switched to UnNamed with ICSkrewD and Entropy's DD Kernel.
I may flash Siyah's tonight to see how it does.
Right now i am looking to the best battery life and stability as i patiently wait for a ICS ROM
I flashed the Alpha 7 build for the I9100 and it booted and everything was buttery smooth but no data like stated, so i didnt keep it.
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Started out with CM7... Realized google didnt save my app data and what not, so i switched to UnNamed with ICSkrewD and Entropy's DD Kernel.
I may flash Siyah's tonight to see how it does.
Right now i am looking to the best battery life and stability as i patiently wait for a ICS ROM
I flashed the Alpha 7 build for the I9100 and it booted and everything was buttery smooth but no data like stated, so i didnt keep it.
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i have the exact same setup and imo, it might be the best combo for battery life and stability.
here is my testing with this combo.
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i have the exact same setup and imo, it might be the best combo for battery life and stability.
here is my testing with this combo.
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Thanks for the info!
I have found I can go from 9AM to 11PM with 30% left then charge it all night.
thats with Wifi, sync on and music player playing music all day when i am at work (9 to 6) with probably a total time of 4 hours screen on in the whole 9 to 11 period of time.
if it lasts 9 to 11 and i am a happy camper why change it you ask? I loving to tinker thats why
Hi,
So my old man has an S2, and while he loves it, having seen my Nexus 4, he fancies a bit of the Jelly Bean loveliness. Anyway, we tried to load the trusty Samsung Kies and do it the official route, only for it to hang forever on 'Connecting' (quality software Samsung :good: ). Now I've downloaded the official Samsung Jelly Bean ROM, I figured I'd stray on here first before jumping the gun.
Considering the guy using the phone is going to be an old geezer, not totally useless with phones but he isn't exactly that sharp with them either, would it be wise to stick with a stock ROM? Obviously the stock ROM can be rooted (he does have his GB rooted) so we can still access a number of the apps he uses but how are custom ROMs fairing with regards to battery life, and performance. I noticed a considerable drop in battery life when using Jelly Bean on my old i9000 but a large improvement in performance. How is it for the i9100?
I'm not asking for a ***** fight, I just want simple answers.
Stock vs Custom?
Battery better or worse?
Performance?
Yep thanks
i am going to answer your questions.
the rom doesnt make the battery life. kernel does. if you change your kernel battery life will be better. i say to try again but this time use a different kernel.
performance is better on custom roms, at least my opinion.
He's right.
Now, your dad wants stock JB, trust me.
I'm sure he's gonna use the device for calls, mail, browsing, camera and that's about it, he'll get 2 days of battery. If he gets less and start *****ing, flash a custom kernel and that's that.
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gastonw said:
He's right.
Now, your dad wants stock JB, trust me.
I'm sure he's gonna use the device for calls, mail, browsing, camera and that's about it, he'll get 2 days of battery. If he gets less and start *****ing, flash a custom kernel and that's that.
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Yeah he isn't much of a hacker. He does really use for calls, texting, email, browsing and camera, and not much else apart from the standard apps such as sports scores. He's not quite as keen as I was on an S1 when I was hacking everything and anything possible and tweaking the **** out of it lol!
OK, we'll give the latest version a pop, Italian XWLSD. We'll get that on, root it, then if necessary I'll flash a UK modem (not that Italian modems are much different I imagine, it isn't that far away).
Flash nordic.
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Downloaded LSD, it's only 1 file though. As I'm coming from Gingerbread do I need to go to ICS first, or can I use the single file without a .pit file?
Straight to JB.
No pit files involved, just the single LSD file.
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Stick to stock for him. Tried custom roms on wifes phone gave me a headache !
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OK, having seen the Multi-Window he fancies a bit of that lol!!! Yep, I know, I know, so I'm going to give him a custom ROM, with that feature, see what he says, and then if needbe, I can always flash back to stock.
Anyway, fancy recommending a good custom ROM with decent battery life and the multi-window mod?
I've been looking at RainBox, (elsewhere doesn't have a thread here for some reason) but also NeatROM has it and I'm quite impressed with that.
Unless it's possible to put the Multi-Window mod on XWLSD stock? Which would be good too, so if so, let me know
You should try AllienceRom.It has multiwindow and great battery life for me
v6.0 ???
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v6.0 ???
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ive put neat rom and speed mod kernel on my dads phone , hes pretty happy with it
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ive put neat rom and speed mod kernel on my dads phone , hes pretty happy with it
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Yeah. I'm either going to try Alliance or Neat. Maybe both lol. I'm trying to explain that once you've flashed one, it's very easy to flash another and there's no reason you can't switch between the two until you like one lol. Hitting a brick wall right now though
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Yeah. I'm either going to try Alliance or Neat. Maybe both lol. I'm trying to explain that once you've flashed one, it's very easy to flash another and there's no reason you can't switch between the two until you like one lol. Hitting a brick wall right now though
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haha true , you need to test the roms before you pick one ... but having a stable kernel is more important :silly:
Of course, the current kernel has some cool battery profiles which would be great in this new kernel. I've never been one to go for the massive performance thing, you gain about 0.1ms of time on apps loading, but by having a good battery kernel, you can save a lot of battery lol
I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I recommend PACMan Rom 4.2.2. Highly stable, very few problems for my Note
phnord said:
I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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so many people ask this same question and anyone with real experience here is going to tell you..................
every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
common rule here (im not being a jerk,you should know this) is read, read, read.
to show you how often someone asks this very question, go back out one screen and down about 5 threads "looking for an excellent ROM"
I have posted my honest opinions and what you can expect from all available firmwares.
good luck my friend
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every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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again, if you haven't, read the other post.
from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
personal choice.......PADAWAN........others have had some issues with lag (biggest complaint) and I refer them ( an I have the most thanks on thread) to p.355-378. read through those pages. obviously others have not figured it out cause they don't read. those setting had my phone running better than it ever ran, even out of box.
the only way you will know is to try for yourself. but it is lie Trident gum.............4 out of 5 dentist surveyed.........
as always, good luck in your hunt
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from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
captemo said:
first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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On 4.2 they have option to OC/UV with stock kernels. It can just be a constant adjustment in those values to minimalize the reboots. With 4.3 I guess you can say I had reboots, my problem was the reboot would never complete and would just bootloop.
I am just being patient and giving it some time. I know many are working on it cause there is so little action in development thread. Many impatient members have driven developers away by constant pestering. I think many have learned that lesson. That why it is so quiet.
Trust me, it is the calm before the storm
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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anything 4.3 was doing it. again I am thinking it may have been my APP2ZIPP file.
here is a tip as to what I do when contemplating new ROM...............
obviously I am looking at original OP post for features to what I want. then I go to last page of thread and read backwards. this gives me the most recent problem ROM is having and hint as to whether there is a fix. if it is something I can deal with, then I go for it. if its too much hassle, then I don't.
I thought I was the only one... I I do the exact same thing capt.
2$HAYNE
Now my eyes hurt
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
Now my eyes hurt
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work. :beer:
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I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work.
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Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
Since it's become clear to me that the main issue here is finding something both modern and stable, I've started a different thread that makes that clear in the title. It can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425090
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Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
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again, everybody's phone is different. I am not sure why, but my phone cant run CARBON, any version. which kind of bums be out cause of all the options available. many of the 4.2's would do exactly that for me, I get a couple of days out of them, then reboots galore. Carbon, (4.2, 4.3, alternate kernels) is just a no go for me. it's like my phone has an allergy.
it was always suggested to me to try stock KERNEL and let it settle for couple days and hell if I had to flash something, might as well flash a new ROM. then I ran out of ROM's. that's when I started trying KERNELS.
most recently, I have had success with BLOWNFUZE's AOKP and compatible UBER (I think it in OP) and also ROOTBOX w/ UBER. ROOTBOX has some pretty cool features. different sounds and statusbar changing colors in different menus. pretty neat. AOKP, just a bit more stable maybe. I am not sure I had the OC/UV settings dialed in just right though. battery wasn't quite lasting me. want to go back and tweak those some more.
in the meantime, and I don't know why I haven't tried in the past, I have been running SONS of ANDROID. 6 days, stock kernel, NO REBOOTS
in between, I am trying to keep my eyes open for some breakthrough's on 4.3. of course I am also trying work out my options for getting the MEGA 6.3.
again, good luck, read, and remember all phones are just a smidge different. that's smidge can be ALL the difference