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Since the lapdock has an HDMI in (for the atrix to output to the screen), would it be possible to hook up and output an xbox 360 with the correct adapters (like this)? Or is the HDMI plug just for use with the atrix?
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F**king brilliant man I was at the att store the other day and when I yanked the atrix out of the lapdock(one of which I have ordered) it said NO HDMI INPUT. I bet it will work with a micro HDMI adapter....ordering from China asap, so expect it to be a month :S
crashingout said:
F**king brilliant man I was at the att store the other day and when I yanked the atrix out of the lapdock(one of which I have ordered) it said NO HDMI INPUT. I bet it will work with a micro HDMI adapter....ordering from China asap, so expect it to be a month :S
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If it warned against hdmi input, it actually might not work . It might be a sort of proprietary jack in order to trigger the webtop on the phone. Even though we can just enable webtop with an hmdi cable, it might not work the other way around. But it's worth a shot seeing as the adapters shouldn't be too much money.
it didnt seem that way, if I can dummy load the usb connector possibly by using my atrix, then the hdmi is free for the taking, and when i pulled it out of the dock it seemed like, when you unplug a computer monitor, when it says nothing connected, it seemed like that, I bet this will work
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Since the lapdock has an HDMI in (for the atrix to output to the screen), would it be possible to hook up and output an xbox 360 with the correct adapters (like this)? Or is the HDMI plug just for use with the atrix?
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That adapter wont work, it would need to be a FEMALE micro and not a male micro which is what you linked to
http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?keyword=111458226
What about this: http://goo.gl/yWHar to this: http://goo.gl/R716a ?
DOH! Just noticed the MALE to FEMALE mini is on backorder.
Dr.Jeckyl said:
What about this: http://goo.gl/yWHar to this: http://goo.gl/R716a ?
DOH! Just noticed the MALE to FEMALE mini is on backorder.
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still not right. The dock has a male mini connector, to make it work you need a full sized male to mini female cable. They don't make those, so you'll have to make one yourself.
Or you could use the full size male to mini male adapter along with a female mini to female mini coupler or "extender".
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barry99705 said:
still not right. The dock has a male mini connector, to make it work you need a full sized male to mini female cable. They don't make those, so you'll have to make one yourself.
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I realize that. The first link is a mini FEMALE to standard MALE. ;-)
Dr.Jeckyl said:
I realize that. The first link is a mini FEMALE to standard MALE. ;-)
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it is micro hdmi not mini hdmi
They exist
Last week I was working with my exporter and I noticed a boatload of new micro hdmi products, one of them was male and female adaptors, male to male, female to female etc, I guarantee it you guys they exist, and they also exist for micro usb, with which we can dummy load the shell into powering on with the phone if necessary. This will take maybe $6 worth of chinese parts, a month for shipping, and patience for the adaptors to arrive for an investigation. I'll try to order by next tuesday
O, dang it. I didn't realize i found the wrong adapter. I forgot that we would need a female adapter.
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Last week I was working with my exporter and I noticed a boatload of new micro hdmi products, one of them was male and female adaptors, male to male, female to female etc, I guarantee it you guys they exist, and they also exist for micro usb, with which we can dummy load the shell into powering on with the phone if necessary. This will take maybe $6 worth of chinese parts, a month for shipping, and patience for the adaptors to arrive for an investigation. I'll try to order by next tuesday
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I look forward to hearing more about this.
If it would indeed be possible to use the laptop dock for such a purpose then I might be able to justify picking one up.
...it would then make a nifty portable DVD player too...
just get an inverter to run a blu-ray player in your car, make a $50 cable...
You guys have wayyyyyy too much time on your hands
(from a guy who doesn't own a gaming console )
However, as a proof-of-concept, it would show what the lapdock is capable of. Get a ATSC tuner with HDMI out and you would have a nice portable HDTV.
I am actually wondering if there is a way to put a touchscreen in place of the simple LCD (like Asus is doing with their prototype)
Pretty sure that the screen is going to shut off without the phone activating the display through the USB connection as well.
Good luck though, hope I'm wrong!
Ririal said:
Pretty sure that the screen is going to shut off without the phone activating the display through the USB connection as well.
Good luck though, hope I'm wrong!
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Which is why I will dummy load the microusb terminal in the dock with my atrix. I found the female micro hdmi part we are looking for! I'll put up more info ASAP, I'm a bit swamped ATM
It might attempt to sense an atrix via the microusb port. Perhaps a keep alive signal. But it will use the same proprietary protocols that all the docks use to trigger the correct mode.
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Nice to see I'm not the only one that saw the no input message and thought to myself, HEY I CAN PLUG SOMETHING ELSE IN! Anyways, anybody get this working yet? I found an adapter on Ebay that should do the trick... But I guess I'm not allowed to post that yet... Take a look though, they do exist if you do not mind waiting for it to ship from China.
I think this just might work!! Sometimes when I plug in the phone I get a message on the screen "no hdmi input". And if this does in fact work, guess what. The atrix 2 will work with our "outdated" lapdocks haha
Greetings,
Just've got my RAZR. Its awesome! Just wondering if I can use web top functionality with only miniHDMI <-> HDMI cable and bluetooth keyboard+mouse? What is the purpose of special web top adapter?
It will be possible with a custom APK for WebTop.
The purpose of special webtop adapter is "Money For Motorola". Nothing else.
Or, if you're talking of the lapdock, I've got it (atrix lapdock) and I can tell you it's nice to take with you and use it because it's thin and lightweight.
You've proven my point. I'm not going to buy motorola's webtop adapter
Could you give more details on special webtop apk I need to install?
Also on clove blog its said:
Why do I need this adapter? If you connected a HDMI cable to the device without this, you would get only a mirror image of your device screen on the HD display. With the webtop adapter you get more advanced features like you would when connected to a HD dock, without the need for the HD dock.
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As I've understood HDMI mirror image is not mandatory. And I should get image on HD panel, just the phone display will be turned off...
I just ordered the smart controller, I'm also very interested in whether I could just plug the phone into the usb&hdmi cables w/o the adapter or dock.
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I just ordered the smart controller, I'm also very interested in whether I could just plug the phone into the usb&hdmi cables w/o the adapter or dock.
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uHDMI and uUSB on their own will only work with mirror, gallery etc mode, no WebTop afair.
I have a minihdmi and can confirm that there is no webtop
Hello!
I'm planning to but original dock for my RAZR, and I see that there are two versions of it. What are differences between them?
http://www.motorolastore.eu/pl/p_motorola_product.aspx?i=225118
http://www.motorolastore.eu/pl/p_motorola_product.aspx?i=225121
It bugging me, since they are looking the same but the second one is much more expensive. And description is the same.
Cheaper one has only one USB port for charging, another is equipped with hub and three USB ports. HDMI micro socket is in both models.
Ed. Ale bardziej opłaca się złożyć samemu =]
Also, The more expensive dock has a standalone Firefox web browser. I purchased the more expensive one and use a usb mouse and a bluetooth keyboard and it's like having a full PC on your TV through the HDMI cable. You could probably do the same thing with the less expensive dock if you have a Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard combo but I am pretty sure you can only go into mirror on display mode vs the full webtop application. Either way, I think it would be a worthwhile purchase in my opinion. I enjoy using it.
Additionally I was told that the less expensive model does not include the mini HDMI cable. Not sure if that would influence your decision or not.
I'm just wondering. And I don't mean to jack the mans thread, but has a powered USB hub ever been successfully patched into the dock interface? If its easy enough I might try modding mine.
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So, basically in more expensive model you can access Webtop, while in cheaper one, you can't, right? Or am I wrong and it's only USB ports and browser difference?
Also, lack of HDMI cable is no problem. I can get one easily xD
The one I have has no USB ports. It only has HDMI, Audio and a micro USB charging port. I'm just wondering if a USB splitter can be added some way?
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But can you acces Webtop App like on more expensive one? If it doesn't have Webtop app then it's not worth to buy it.
Also I have questions for other. Is it possible to attach normal USB hub to it and make it work like expensive dock? I mean, connect normal HUB with three normal USB slots and one microUSB for charging. Is it even possible without tearing dock apart? I know it's less stylish then buying expensive one, but unfortunatelly I can't afford it xD Life is brutal and stuff.
Webtop is in your phone, not the dock. The docks play some tricks with USB pins so the phone knows which dock it's in and which mode to activate.
People have used USB hubs to add devices to the RAZR, with or without a dock. The only caveat is that the hub must have its own power supply and you may have to make a cable to have it work. Google around for it.
The ICS leak (.211/OTA?, at least) will enable webtop without using a dock at all. Just plug in an HDMI cable and you're good.
Confirming. I've got the simple dock for free with the costco verizon deal recently. No mHDMI cable included. However the web top works the same through the dock as with the cable only (upgraded to ICS right away, so can't tell for GB, but who cares now, as JB is coming? ). Tinkering with the idea of installing a USB hub board inside the dock. Looks straight forward, just need to measure the inside compartment to get a proper hub for parts.
Anyone tried to fit the Amaze 4G on a lapdock? Can't find any posts via search
Those Lapdocks (eg Atrix Lapdock) go on sale for ~$50, basically a display, keyboard, battery and trackpad.
Below is someone's hack for raspberry pi on the lapdock.... since amaze 4G has HDMI out, only thing to do is to see if we can get the cables to fit properly, and the USB functionality(keyboard+trackpad) to work, and the software
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/21/3105822/motorola-lapdock-hacked-raspberry-pi-rikomagic
So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
derpTastic said:
So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
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from looking at the raspberry pi and other stuff(laptop/wii connected to the hdmi port), you'll get a "mirrored" display... the keyboard/trackpad depends on the usb connection/driver/OTG Kernel, dunno about that
Youll need
Lapdock: $20-$60 (i'd suggest getting the atrix/bionic versions, not the motorola 500 one)
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/motorola-atrix-4g-laptop-dock-hdmi-upgrade-kit.html
http://slickdeals.net/f/5035746-Lapdock-ATRIX-4G-60-and-Droid-Bionic-90
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29994146&postcount=16
MHL connector for HDMI: $10-$35
Official http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Adaptor-Jetstream-Tablets-Package/dp/B005LSOPN4
Unofficial, may need USB cable for power http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
->I can't get any clear indication that the USB data from phone passes through to the USB connector on the MHL adapter
maybe some HDMI cables/connector (HDMI male from MHL connector to miniHDMI female on the lapdock)
I have a tablet and a netbook too, so don't think I'll be attempting this for now
the 35Whr battery(from googling), people say it can charge your phone a couple of times over(your phone's battery is 4Volts*2AmpHr = 8Whr)
I'll see if I can find a cheap one here in Canada.
It's a rather interesting concept.
It kinda reminds me of this.http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Definitely interested in this, would be cool to have this setup.
Live and Die on this day....
went to a radioshack nearby, they didn't have it..
bascially, i would only get one if its around $20 (since you can charge phone with it, $20 for a large battery is worth it, though not for the laptop form factor)
The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
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The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
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commute on a train/bus, could watch video on a larger screen while charging your battery
if we had the software to support it as well (like the ubuntu-phone posted earlier or webtop options), could compose email or edit code on the go...
Isn't that why we have laptops?
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Isn't that why we have laptops?
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if you want to spend more than $200, a laptop
if you want just one device that has everything loaded, and customizable(via the lapdock), maybe a netbook or this lapdock
i guess that's why the Atrix Lapdocks are selling at a discount... the manufacturers couldn't find a good way to advertise this expensive device (MSRP is $300 or so)
it's available for $40 on bensoutlet
http://slickdeals.net/f/5501414-AT-T-Motorola-11-6-Lapdock-40-FS
http://bensoutlet.com/products/lapdock-atrix
1% in stock left...
I got one, will play with it
We don't have hdmi
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
chozyn said:
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
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amandez said:
We don't have hdmi
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yes we do, via the ExtMicro / MHL port
http://androidforums.com/htc-amaze-4g/500285-clearing-air-mhl-hdmi-adapters-amaze.html
I heard that the Amaze 4G is picky about which MHL cable it accepts, and the kernel/android build on it must support HDMI out
PHP:
Are there any kind of laptop docks available that would work with it, such as the Motorola's extinct Atrix lapdock, the fabled clambook or something similar on the market?
Cheers
Not that I know of, but if you were looking for a home solution (as opposed to travel), I've really enjoyed a Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse, with an MHL cable into a 23" screen.
Still working on what's the best software to make the most of this (the new Open Office for Android will come in use). And sorry I know I'm not really answering your question.
I'm confident that with the right set of connectors and adapters you could make an atrix lapdock work. It would be kludgy but it would work.
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I was just asking a friend about the Atrix Lapdock. I have one sitting here and a friend suggested something that may work.
Im not saying this WILL work since i dont know if the keyboard and trackpad are powered via the usb connecter or are powered by the internal battery, but if its the latter, you might be able to get a female micro usb to usb female adapter and connect a Bluetooth dongle to it and then use an MHL thing to connect to the micro hdmi connector.
I don't currently have any easy means to try this myself and i don't have the patience to find the adapter(s?) to give it a shot. Running on fairly limited funds right now.