I have just bought one for my dad, who needs my help quite frequently for basic functions. Is there an app out there, that I can use to see and control his screen. The only simple one I have come across is webkey, but that will only work for rooted tabs. Being remote, it is going to be a real challenge to root this, so just curious if anyone can point me to a good app for remotely managing the app. Thanks a lot.
try droid vnc server beta
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try droid vnc server beta
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This one also says 'It needs a rooted device'
remote access to unrooted Android devices
Unless the stock rom has remote access backed in then you will not be able to do this without a rooted device. We use Bomgar where we work and before Android and iOS we used to remote to windows phones all the time. Now the system file on these are more locked down on stock. If you search bomgar and ios you will see that Bomgar has a patition out there for users to sign. Right now only providers can use there software to rmote to devices. Maybe this will chamge in the future but it depends onthe rom and who is selling the device.
Being a techincal security guru, I like the more locked down phones, but it does come at a cost. As these roms and devices mature more, I'm sure a dev will figure out a way to do this without compromising the security of the device.
tave a look at this:
Removed ,hope he grabed it.
I think you might want to remove that link sharpish.
awww now my curiosity has the best of me lol
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I posted this in another forum but I want to know what you guys here think about android security.
How worried are you all about security on the android platform? Don't you find it a little unnerving that anybody could upload and app to the android market and there is no verification of the app like on IOS platform. Anybody could write an app that looks legit but does devious things. All this along with there are very very few security applications and they are in the infant state. Don't you find it very dangerous? How do you try to maintain security on your android device? Don't download apps? Only download from known publishers? Or do you roll the dice and download anything? If you use a security app which one?
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I posted this in another forum but I want to know what you guys here think about android security.
How worried are you all about security on the android platform? Don't you find it a little unnerving that anybody could upload and app to the android market and there is no verification of the app like on IOS platform. Anybody could write an app that looks legit but does devious things. All this along with there are very very few security applications and they are in the infant state. Don't you find it very dangerous? How do you try to maintain security on your android device? Don't download apps? Only download from known publishers? Or do you roll the dice and download anything? If you use a security app which one?
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There are viruses for Android.....right ?
Besides , if you're smart enough you can check whether an app needs such permissions when installing , through the Mart or an .apk .
I don't like the way iOS works , they give too limited functionality .
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I posted this in another forum but I want to know what you guys here think about android security.
How worried are you all about security on the android platform? Don't you find it a little unnerving that anybody could upload and app to the android market and there is no verification of the app like on IOS platform. Anybody could write an app that looks legit but does devious things. All this along with there are very very few security applications and they are in the infant state. Don't you find it very dangerous? How do you try to maintain security on your android device? Don't download apps? Only download from known publishers? Or do you roll the dice and download anything? If you use a security app which one?
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i dont use a security app, i use common sense.
a game doesn't need access to my contacts...
notepad app doesn't need access to my private information...
this is why android phones are for the power users and shouldn't be used by soccer moms and grandmas - because they have no clue what they are doing with these phones except for when a phone call or text message comes in... let them have the iphones.
but if you are tech savvy, and want to squeeze every bit of user capability out of your phone, a high end android phone is for you.
the people that are tech savvy also have the awareness because they treat their phone like a computer, and not a phone.
just my thoughts.
I think the best thing would be if android embraced that the user can choose which permissions to give to apps. I mean, an app may want to know your location, you denies it, and the app continnues happily without using that functionality, or quits saying its essantial.
cobraboy85 said:
i dont use a security app, i use common sense.
a game doesn't need access to my contacts...
notepad app doesn't need access to my private information...
this is why android phones are for the power users and shouldn't be used by soccer moms and grandmas - because they have no clue what they are doing with these phones except for when a phone call or text message comes in... let them have the iphones.
but if you are tech savvy, and want to squeeze every bit of user capability out of your phone, a high end android phone is for you.
the people that are tech savvy also have the awareness because they treat their phone like a computer, and not a phone.
just my thoughts.
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very well put, unfortunately most dont think like this..
It is always a good habit to check the permissions an app needs before installation.I personally think that a system should be implemented in android market where all apps are erquested to give informaation on "Why they need certain permissions?".Certain apps do that.
An antivirus program is also useful in my opinion.I use Lookout antivirus,as i find it simple to use and does not slow down my phone.I tried avg but it slowed down my phone terribly.
hiitti said:
I think the best thing would be if android embraced that the user can choose which permissions to give to apps. I mean, an app may want to know your location, you denies it, and the app continnues happily without using that functionality, or quits saying its essantial.
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But, as a matter of degree, this just what we wish. The fact may be far beyond our imagination. Sometimes, malware still run certain functionalities even you cancel it. It's worse that some apps run secretly in system. I'm a little scared about security issue based on my PC.
cobraboy85 said:
i dont use a security app, i use common sense.
a game doesn't need access to my contacts...
notepad app doesn't need access to my private information...
this is why android phones are for the power users and shouldn't be used by soccer moms and grandmas - because they have no clue what they are doing with these phones except for when a phone call or text message comes in... let them have the iphones.
but if you are tech savvy, and want to squeeze every bit of user capability out of your phone, a high end android phone is for you.
the people that are tech savvy also have the awareness because they treat their phone like a computer, and not a phone.
just my thoughts.
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But a game might ask for internet/network permissions which you would probably accept. How do you guard against this? How can you prevent a malicious app that asks for relavent permissions but abuses them?
I never take the time to study the permissions required when I download an app from the market.
I tend to avoid the low number of d'load apps..... partly as there is less feedback to judge.... and partly as any app thats worth the download will have high stars and many d'loads.
Works for me so far.
Netquins running in the background just in case...... but whose to say they dont upload my contacts for spamming?
Prof Peach said:
I never take the time to study the permissions required when I download an app from the market.
I tend to avoid the low number of d'load apps..... partly as there is less feedback to judge.... and partly as any app thats worth the download will have high stars and many d'loads.
Works for me so far.
Netquins running in the background just in case...... but whose to say they dont upload my contacts for spamming?
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But what about new apps that may be legit? They won't have any reviews yet or stars. If everybody did the same as you it would never get reviews or stars? There's got to be a better way, don't you agree?
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But a game might ask for internet/network permissions which you would probably accept. How do you guard against this? How can you prevent a malicious app that asks for relavent permissions but abuses them?
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That's the only question above that can't be answered by LBE Privacy Guard.
Someone mentioned a game that wants access to your contacts. What if you really want the game? You just don't allow it access to your contacts and then play it anyway.
Most apps ask for access to your IMEI (you'd be surprised how many!) With LBE they don't get it.
Antivirus software is all well and good, but it's not the same as on a PC where pattern matching can be used. AV software on Android basically opens the apk file and has a look round to see if anything looks suspicious. Other than that, there's nothing it can do to stop a clever developer bypassing it.
Seriously, if you have concerns then get LBE and start restricting permissions access on an app-by-app basis.
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That's the only question above that can't be answered by LBE Privacy Guard.
Someone mentioned a game that wants access to your contacts. What if you really want the game? You just don't allow it access to your contacts and then play it anyway.
Most apps ask for access to your IMEI (you'd be surprised how many!) With LBE they don't get it.
Antivirus software is all well and good, but it's not the same as on a PC where pattern matching can be used. AV software on Android basically opens the apk file and has a look round to see if anything looks suspicious. Other than that, there's nothing it can do to stop a clever developer bypassing it.
Seriously, if you have concerns then get LBE and start restricting permissions access on an app-by-app basis.
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this.
i was JUST about to say the same thing about the android "anti-virus" scam... not really a scam, but a false sense of security. as you said, not the same at ALL. people need to get out of the PC mindset with these phones. this is not windows, it's linux.
and i'm going to give LBE a shot. seems pretty legit.
for all of those running antivirus "software" on your phone, how many of you have actually run a virus scan and had it give a detailed description of a malicious "virus"....
Liking lookout
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ummm, anyone ever heard of antiviruses (Kapersky, maybe?)? Or at least look up the app's access to things... If it accesses something you don't want it to access (or think the app doesn't need to access it), don't install it!
I know out-of-the-box Androids aren't so vunerable to viruses, compared to rooted ones... So...?
First look up the developer of the app, then if you trust him, install, if you never heard of him, google it (or look at the comments at where you're downloading from), and if you had experience with the developer before (and if the experience is bad, like trojans, etc.), don't install!
(I don't understand half of what I'm typing XD...Don't blame me for misspellings, please )
Cant say I can rave or not when it comes to the anti virus apps.
Have used Lookout in the past and currently using netquin.... neither of which ever flagged up a virus, malware or whatever.
Its nice to think its running in the background but dont know whether it will do anything if its needed.
I was tempted to download a load of apps in a zip file but 20 secs in my Avast siad there was a virus. I'd like to think the market would have its own precautions but having searched the site, cant see any mention of its security for the apps we download.
Its a different thing altogether but we cant take the fact that its the market and relax...... the worst virus my laptop ever had came in an update from Microsoft...... and another directly from google tools.
Kapersky for Android then? You can pick up free full non-trial versions on the web...
About the Market - yes, that's true. You'd expect them to check if apps are infected or at least leave a bot to do it...
Sorta lame...
The best security is the brain.akp just like brain.exe is on windows - best thing it's free, godgiven and everyone got a copy
Zeze21 said:
The best security is the brain.akp just like brain.exe is on windows - best thing it's free, godgiven and everyone got a copy
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yeah but not everyone got the full version. A few of my friends got a corrupted exe and then this girl I know got the 30 day trial
not that good
Prawesome said:
It is always a good habit to check the permissions an app needs before installation.I personally think that a system should be implemented in android market where all apps are erquested to give informaation on "Why they need certain permissions?".Certain apps do that.
An antivirus program is also useful in my opinion.I use Lookout antivirus,as i find it simple to use and does not slow down my phone.I tried avg but it slowed down my phone terribly.
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I have both Lookout and AVG, neither has stopped my phone from getting up to 10 junk downloads, you have won an ipad, iphone etc., a day, not sms or email, I have to have every form of external contact turned off, the moment I get wifi or mobile access it starts downloading spam.
If anyone knows of a way to stop it I would appreciate the feedback
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Hi Guys
I've been developing a http based Server Software that uses an android device as a single purpose device.. say an input terminal. So I developed a very simple app just for this input purpose (including some data from sensors on the device). It aslo loads a web view for a little html banner.
So it's really simple and the design is to basically turn an android device into a single purpose hardware... and with that said i really dont need 90% of what's installed and running on android, I dont need complicated launchers, and i DO need to kind of "lock the device down" to my app only (i guess kiosk like?)
I basically need the hardware and the OS to run my app.
if possible make everything as lightweight as possible (again as i dont need most of the android features)
and I would love it if my app can run on top of everything and at every start up (it can even pretend to be the SHELL or OS on top of Android OS, or kind of like that approach)..
So yeh, I'm hoping you guys can give me some advise/suggestions as to how best to approach this? (honestly i'm fairly new to android as a whole)
Things off the top of my head are:
1) Custom ROM like really plain/lightweight w/ lock down features <-- is there even any rom like this? or could i ask someone to code this for me?
2) Root, SuperSU, and xPosed Framework plugins and tweaks ? <-- i've not tried xPosed Framework and Im not sure if it's meant to be, or good for, my purpose.
3) Use an APP that can pretty much make a Kiosk out of the phone, w/ my app running permanently? <-- i've seen one kiosk app www.kioware.com but it's crazy expensive and i guess a bit of an overkill to what i need.. Perhaps there's a cheaper more simple kiosk app you can recommend? or perhaps an opensource project i can tinker with?
Would really appreciate your thoughts on this..
Thank you very much!
A common request
Can anyone direct me to a thread where this issue is resolved? It seems more complicated than it seems at first glance.
Dear Friends,
Hoping to find some fellow (unlucky) Good for Enterprise users here. More specifically, has anyone been able to use it on an Android device that Android 5.0 and up? My company unfortunately requires me to use the software to get to my Exchange email. I am a T-Mobile Note 3 User who is just tired of how lanky and heavy TouchWiz is, but do enjoy the hardware of my phone, every single bit!
Long story short, thinking of going to CM11 (KitKat) to make my device fast, but was wondering if there are any Good for Enterprise users here on Android 5.0 and up and if so, do you know if there is a way to use the app on a ROOTED device? AKA Hide root like we used on Xposed via RootCloak or GFE patch?
Would appreciate ANY help and advice! Thank you in advance for your responses!
*BUMP* Any input friends?
I'm no developer or anything but I have been "coping with limited success" for a while now. There is a thread XDA that uses xposed framework developed by "Phantasm4489" but its in a limbo phase at the moment.
1. The alpha build of PA 5, if installed without root ( user discretion now to root or not to) works fine. The only issue is that the ROM is quite bare bones. My point being ROMs built using those principles may work as long as you forfeit your root privileges.
2. If you have a browser access ( web login ) you can install GFE on an unroofed secondary device, and sync notifications across android devices through the push bullet app. You will be notified of new mails, but you will have to login through web. Not the best but it can work somewhat reasonably.
how secure is Remix-os and Android-X86?
can I, for example, run my bank-app on it?
Thats a good question...
Do you trust google?
Would you trust ex-google employees? (Remix developer team)
Do you trust.. all your apps, that you installed?
The RemixOs M comes pre-Rooted and has therefore a higher chance for malware takeovers
So... how knows
Ps... installing a firewall.. is adviced (like netguard,you can select what apps can connect to the web)
capoeiraES said:
how secure is Remix-os and Android-X86?
can I, for example, run my bank-app on it?
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That sort of thing depends on the bank app. Most have set conditions that have nothing or very little to do with Android version but rather the hardware used [where they can ensure the OS is exactly the same and unaltered on the same device]. Bank apps may report things like 'altered OS detected' or 'you're device has been rooted' and refuse to work; but most of the time the issue is that the device itself is blacklisted by the app.
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Thats a good question...
Do you trust google?
Would you trust ex-google employees? (Remix developer team)
Do you trust.. all your apps, that you installed?
The RemixOs M comes pre-Rooted and has therefore a higher chance for malware takeovers
So... how knows
Ps... installing a firewall.. is adviced (like netguard,you can select what apps can connect to the web)
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This is false having a rooted device can actually increase security if you know what your doing.
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gangrenius said:
This is false having a rooted device can actually increase security if you know what your doing.
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Man I know Linux (Arch) very well, but I still don't understand Android.
can I do things like compile Linux packages in terminal? or does Android only execute APK?
I have the same concern as OP. I understand computer security but I can't say the same about phones/tablets.
My concern is, would it be possible for the OS to log your key entries and have access to those data? Or keep a log in the system that contains sensitive data? I know, I sound paranoid but it's better to be safe than sorry. I just installed RemixOS on my old Nexus 10 and I'm really impressed with the performance.
I always have these types of concerns when installing custom roms. If someone can help me understand the situation better, I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
hooman64 said:
I have the same concern as OP. I understand computer security but I can't say the same about phones/tablets.
My concern is, would it be possible for the OS to log your key entries and have access to those data? Or keep a log in the system that contains sensitive data? I know, I sound paranoid but it's better to be safe than sorry. I just installed RemixOS on my old Nexus 10 and I'm really impressed with the performance.
I always have these types of concerns when installing custom roms. If someone can help me understand the situation better, I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
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NO. I don't recommend sensitive data running Windows 10, Ubuntu based distro's, android, or IOS
the way how Jide is displaying ads in the OS is a definite IDGAFF about security.
as for android-x86
http://www.android-x86.org/documents/analytics-program
WIndows 10
adobe flash built-in. if you remove it you lose system updates.
good luck disabling cortana. if you actually manage system updates will enable it again
Ubuntu
12.04.1 LTS user updated to try newer LTS's. WTF did canonical do?
Maromi said:
NO. I don't recommend sensitive data running Windows 10, Ubuntu based distro's, android, or IOS
the way how Jide is displaying ads in the OS is a definite IDGAFF about security.
as for android-x86
http://www.android-x86.org/documents/analytics-program
WIndows 10
adobe flash built-in. if you remove it you lose system updates.
good luck disabling cortana. if you actually manage system updates will enable it again
Ubuntu
12.04.1 LTS user updated to try newer LTS's. WTF did canonical do?
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Well I see your point, what I mostly am concerned about is that RemixOS is closed source, so I don't know if users data could be abused or used in a way that is not ethical. Again, I am not saying it is. I just am curious to know if there is evidence proof that it's not. I'm just trying to be more educated in this regard. Thank you.
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Well I see your point, what I mostly am concerned about is that RemixOS is closed source, so I don't know if users data could be abused or used in a way that is not ethical. Again, I am not saying it is. I just am curious to know if there is evidence proof that it's not. I'm just trying to be more educated in this regard. Thank you.
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closed source is the problem. we don't realy know what is in the code at all.
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closed source is the problem. we don't realy know what is in the code at all.
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True!
Does anybody know if there is a tool to monitor OS activities?
To monitor data.. android tuner by 3c (you can also manage startup apps)
To manage data.. netguard.. firewall, seems a to be a good app
Cheers
mitchell4you said:
To monitor data.. android tuner by 3c (you can also manage startup apps)
To manage data.. netguard.. firewall, seems a to be a good app
Cheers
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Thanks buddy.
If you really want to find out exactly what it's doing set it up with a wired Ethernet connection through a trusted device (device would need two Ethernet ports.) Run wireshark or similar on trusted device. Leave it in this configuration for days, not hours. As for security in android your best bet, as with all modern electronics, is to invest in a hardware firewall to put it behind. Untangle NG or the like can even be run on an old computer. Failing that, root plus a firewall that writes to IPtables, which is what protects most of the internet anyway. AFWall+ is an example of that.
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If you really want to find out exactly what it's doing set it up with a wired Ethernet connection through a trusted device (device would need two Ethernet ports.) Run wireshark or similar on trusted device. Leave it in this configuration for days, not hours. As for security in android your best bet, as with all modern electronics, is to invest in a hardware firewall to put it behind. Untangle NG or the like can even be run on an old computer. Failing that, root plus a firewall that writes to IPtables, which is what protects most of the internet anyway. AFWall+ is an example of that.
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This is great info. I m gonna try this and see if I get anywhere. Thank you very much for the info.
Is there a phone/android version that allows someone whos not an Android expert to actually have control over what their phones doing? Or is it just not possible nowadays for a regular person to fully control the info their phone sends?
Sorry if this sounds cynical, it really is a genuine question.
Thank you.
Hi Steve, it sounds like what you need is a rooted phone. Forgive me if you're already familiar with the term, but rooting basically gives you administrator rights over just about everything on your phone, with only a few exceptions depending on which Android version the phone is running. This allows you to do stuff like revoke permissions for apps, block ads, and change how Android looks and behaves.
Do you have a phone in mind already? If not, what's your budget?
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Hi Steve, it sounds like what you need is a rooted phone. Forgive me if you're already familiar with the term, but rooting basically gives you administrator rights over just about everything on your phone, with only a few exceptions depending on which Android version the phone is running. This allows you to do stuff like revoke permissions for apps, block ads, and change how Android looks and behaves.
Do you have a phone in mind already? If not, what's your budget?
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Thank you for your help. I had a rooted phone, but a friend did it for me. Now I have a S8 active on Pie and from my research the bootloader I have (V5) is not rootable. I'm definitely not well versed in Android though and could be wrong. That's why I was wondering if there was a device that offered full control without the need and rick of rooting. If there's not, could you suggest one that is perhaps the simplest and least risky to root? I don't need top of the line, I don't game or anything and would be fine with getting something used. thanks again!
Luckily, there is a way in stock Android to control permissions! I forgot about it when I was typing my previous response. Here's an overview: https://www.howtogeek.com/355257/can-you-control-specific-permissions-on-android/ Hope that does what you're looking for.
If you want to do more with a rooted phone like block ads, there are some that are easily rootable, like the Google Pixel series. Here are a few options: https://www.androidcentral.com/best-phone-rooting-and-modding I liked the Pixel 2XL I used through my previous job, and I've heard good things about the other Pixels, for what that's worth. I haven't tried the other phones in that link, but the OnePlus phones have an excellent reputation.
There are many other phones that have varying degrees of difficulty for rooting, but I'm not aware of any relatively recent ones not on that list that I'd consider easy to root. I've found that the best approach to finding a new phone is going to GSM Arena's Phone Finder to put on my criteria, then coming back to XDA and searching through the forums to find out whether my prospective phone of choice has root yet. As you've discovered with your S8, some phones just never get there, which is pretty frustrating.
I hope that helps! Holler if you have any other questions.
Well, that's my main issue, you can only control certain permissions there. When I click "all permissions" I can see them all, but not turn them off. It's just a bummer that one has to go thru all this rigmarole to control a device they supposedly own. I was hoping maybe someone made a device that you could control stock, but I guess that was wishful thinking. Thanks again.
SteveJustSteve said:
Is there a phone/android version that allows someone whos not an Android expert to actually have control over what their phones doing? Or is it just not possible nowadays for a regular person to fully control the info their phone sends?
Sorry if this sounds cynical, it really is a genuine question.
Thank you.
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You must distinguish between Android OS itself and the apps that run on it: Android OS has no permissions you can invoke/revoke, only hardware/OS specific settings can be made there, but permissions can be granted/withdrawn from an app - if its developer has allowed the latter. To change the permissions of an app basically no rooted Android is required, this is done either via Android->Settings or via a 3rd-party APK editor.
BTW: It exist 3rd-party apps that can show you what apps are sending/receiving data over Internet.
Hint: Use your Android phone without Google.
Is root required to disable hardware?
SteveJustSteve said:
Is root required to disable hardware?
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No, only a hammer. :laugh: