should i update my thunderbolt? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there any reason I should update my phone to the new ruu if my stock phone is doing just fine. It hasnt updated...and it reset once like two months ago. Sometimes i wish i hadbetter signal. But yeah...any upsides?

I don't think the radio updates have much effect on the signal. Mine has remained a consistent -89db to -93db (at my home location at least) since I had the phone in March and I've updated to most of the latest radios when they came out (I'm also rooted of course).

Only thing I noticed was less reboots and better connectivity for data since mine would drop for hours even days with stock. Both of those have been fixed since I rooted and used ROMs updated with newest leaks. I would never got back to stock but need to find a ROM that has better battery with Shift I started off getting over 17 hours but like previous versions it stays like that for a few days then bam I am back to 6 hours with no task killers or battery eating apps. I was thinking about getting extented battery but going to put that money towards getting the HTC Vigor.
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I haven't updated from stock, either. There's no sense in losing free (legal) 4G WiFi hotspot. The only downside of stock is that Netflix doesn't work, anymore. Since I have a tablet, however, I just set up a WiFi hotspot and watch Netflix on a larger screen!

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froyo and issue ?s

?s For those of you running the froyo roms etc.
Are the issues with these phones getting resolved with the new drivers?
GPS and navigation. Not talking about lock but how well it works.
Lag and freezing issues, battery life issues etc........
do you think 2.2 will actually fix the issues with this phone?
My phone has frozen up and rebooted twice in the last two weeks while running navigation and the battery would lose about fifty percent or more of its charge when this happened (about 1-2 minutes and get really hot). I l wish samsung would get their act together, because all I see is another boondoggle on the horizon.........I want to keep this phone if it will work in stock form........otherwise I will have to force Tmobile to exchange it ..... I have already waited since it was new (July) for it to work right.
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?s For those of you running the froyo roms etc.
Are the issues with these phones getting resolved with the new drivers?
GPS and navigation. Not talking about lock but how well it works.
Lag and freezing issues, battery life issues etc........
do you think 2.2 will actually fix the issues with this phone?
My phone has frozen up and rebooted twice in the last two weeks while running navigation and the battery would lose about fifty percent or more of its charge when this happened (about 1-2 minutes and get really hot). I l wish samsung would get their act together, because all I see is another boondoggle on the horizon.........I want to keep this phone if it will work in stock form........otherwise I will have to force Tmobile to exchange it ..... I have already waited since it was new (July) for it to work right.
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Are you running a stock rom or a custom one? And if you got it in july you cannot "force" tmobile to do a thing with it unless you got the insurance but then its not really forcing them. But hey it was worth it to sound tough online...
My experience:
Obsidian V1
GPS Lock - Awesome
Freezing: None
Battery Life: Very Good
Fast?: Yes

T-Bolt is reboot central, wait for the OTA update?

So I've had less than stellar luck with this phone. I purchased it and rooted it pretty much on day 1, (this was back in early May) and immediately started seeing some pretty awful rebooting. I switched kernels from Das Bamf's to Imoseyon's, which helped it go from mind-numbing to merely bad (used to reboot EVERY TIME the screen was slept and turned back on, went to happening maybe once an hour)
I switched back to stock, same problem, rebooting literally once an hour. I called Verizon for troubleshooting help and they immediately had me switch it out for a Hardware version 2.0 phone, which I've now had since May 15th. It does work a lot better, but it's still pretty bad. Here's the timeline:
Ran stock for about a week, was seeing 1 reboot every other day, decided to root. Installed BAMF remix 1.7 with the .7/.6 CDMA/LTE radio, which left it pretty much the same, rebooting every 30 hours or so. It's particularly likely to do it when using Navigation or on phone calls. It's not a stress thing, I can run Linpack, quadrant, make calls and surf, whatever, it runs fine at stock speeds, 1.92, 1.92x... and will do so for hours without rebooting (until it does)
Switched to 2.0 w/ the MR2 radio, and the reboots were even worse. Now more like 1-2 times a day. Thinking this was not a radio issue now, I eased down the clock speed (I was running 1.92x kernel) down to stock speeds, no affect. Upped the voltage by switching to 1.92, still no affect, reboots a couple of times day, ALSO with a few random shutdowns thrown in for fun. I tried Standard as well, letting it top out at 1.4, still having the issue.
MR2.5 came out, switched to that, and it became unuseable. Reboots literally every 5-10 minutes, and I tried running it that way for the better part of a day, thinking it was maybe the kernel settling or whatever, but it stayed that bad. I switched back to 2.0 and kept seeing the reboots a couple of times a day, so since they were worse on GB I figured I'd go back to Froyo.
Loaded 1.8 Remix, and the reboots are still happening a few times day. At my wit's end, I decided to go straight back to stock, no root. It ran fine that way for about a day, then randomly shutdown again. It has seemed good so far today, but the random shutdown happening makes me assume it's still not stable.
I really don't think it's a problem with 2 phones in a row, and there's thousands of posts of people experiencing similar problems, so it's not something weird I'm particularly doing. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it, as some people are rock solid with Froyo with the .7 radios, or the .6/.7 combo, or some are fine with Gingerbread MR2, or even 2.5. Me, I have no luck with ANYTHING.
Should I start another ticket with Verizon for another dud phone, or is the promised OTA update really going to do something magical that MR 2 or 2.5 haven't already tried to do to fix this thing?
If it were me Id be screaming at somebody at Verizon. If your sure that nothing u did rooting or flashing roms caused the reboots then get a new phone. Rumors say that gingerbread is coming tomorrow but you can't out to much stock in that and even if it does I doubt there is any miracle code written in that's gonna help you.
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Some people have had random reboots on stock rom. But since you were on stock for less than a day, it's impossible to determine whether the reboots are due to a defective phone or something that happened during/after you flashed the custom rom. You obviously know your way around various roms, radios & kernel/cpu tweaks, and nothing seems to help. If you have the patience, go to the IRC channel for more suggestions. If no one there can help, I would restore to stock & exchange the phone. You may have a defective device that will never work right.

Gingerbread WIFI!!!???

FIXED: check out post #17
I didn't think posting this in each GB Rom thread and kernel thread would be appropriate so I'm starting here. Thanks in advance for any feedback!
Okay......After doing countless and wasted hours of searching and coming up empty handed, why is it that only a few of us are having the WIFI issue on the Gingerbread ROMs? It doesn't matter which ROM I use as soon as the screen cuts off, BAM, no WIFI or 3G data. And yes WIFI sleep policy is set to never and I've tried turning on Better WIFI performance and I've even tried every kernal out there, nothing works. FROYO ROMs are working fine so it's got to be either the Gingerbread ROMs or the Kernels.
Either way I'm okay with the issue not working (yet) and I understand that HTC hasn't released the source for the GB Kernel yet. All I would like is some clarification from the people that build these ROMs and Kernels that the WIFI is not working yet. I understand if you're in a 4G area, after all 4G is much faster than the WIFI anyway but for those of us not in a 4G area yet WIFI is king when at home or at work. So if the developers are using 4G constantly I understand the WIFI neglect, but I really don't think it's the developers. These guys are too smart to let something like that slide by! Can someone shed some light on the issue? Thanks again in advance!
This is not an issue with the leaked GB roms themselves or the latest kernels, because the wifi is working great for most people.
It is going to be helpful if you list which rom, kernel, and radio you are using. I did have a similar problem one time, my wifi was going to sleep when the screen turned off and went idle.
It had been working fine but I tried to take a shortcut and reflash the rom without wiping data because it was the same rom. After attempting that which was a bad idea but more of an experiment/learning session for me, I had exactly the problem that you stated.
After wiping my phone properly and flashing the rom, the problem was gone.
I have been running BAMF sence 3.0 with the MR2 radio. I tried MR2.5 and had some different small issues, MR2 has been working Great. Currently with BAMF 3.0 RC 3, the MR2 rom and the latest dreamKernel, everything is running perfectly, at least everything I use or thought of using.
The background data is extremely important for me because I communicate exclusively with my girlfriends using IM services such as gtalk with Trillian. So I wouldn't be able to run gingerbread if it wasn't working REALLY good.
Here's the thread that I use often as a resource. It discusses some issues similar to what you are dealing with, and is update very regularly
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1086518
I'm having an identical issue to the OP. Running BAMF GingerREMIX 2.1, Imoseyon's 3.3.8GBTest+ , MR2 radio.
Wifi just disconnects when screen is off. When I turn the screen on, i can see the wifi indicator is all black (similar to no bars). Once it's on for a second or two, it lights up again, and I get whatever notifications I missed due to no data(email, etc).
Ive done the 3x data, cache, and dalvik wipe before flashing the ROM and before flashing the Kernel. It's absolutely DESTROYING my battery life. Since noticing the problem, i've re-wiped and re-flashed everything, didn't help.
Thanks for the response...I'm stumped then because I have tried every combination of kernal/ROM that is available out of the Gingerbread leaks. I recently last night tried BAMF Sense 3.0 RC3 and GINGERTH3ORY V4.5.1 and BAMF 2.1 Remix again along with both MR2 and MR2.5 radios. Nothing worked so I went back to the reliable Perfect Storm 1.5 ROM and left my radio at MR2.5
Any suggestions? Thanks for the help!
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Thanks for the response...I'm stumped then because I have tried every combination of kernal/ROM that is available out of the Gingerbread leaks. I recently last night tried BAMF Sense 3.0 RC3 and GINGERTH3ORY V4.5.1 and BAMF 2.1 Remix again along with both MR2 and MR2.5 radios. Nothing worked so I went back to the reliable Perfect Storm 1.5 ROM and left my radio at MR2.5
Any suggestions? Thanks for the help!
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I'm having no issues with gingeritis 1.0 (Not the 3D Alpha), and lean kernel 3.4.0. Did you try those?
Wayloss said:
I'm having no issues with gingeritis 1.0 (Not the 3D Alpha), and lean kernel 3.4.0. Did you try those?
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I did try the gingeritis 1.0 3D with dreamkernel but not lean. Maybe I'll give that a shot this evening but I'm not holding my breath...lol I've tried almost everything and known combinations that are working for others and all the wipes I can muster, nothing is working.
Okay I've been trying Gingeritis 1.0 3d with the lean kernel for a few hours hours now. When my screen turns off I will receive emails for a few minutes but then I stop receiving them until I wake the the phone up. Once i wake the phone up i start receiving messages likevi just turned it on from a good nights sleep. Does anyone know what's going on?
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I've actually had this problem also ever since i moved to the Gingerbread. When the screen turns off and i turn it back off after awhile, the WiFi seems like it was sleeping the entire time. I get all my notifications when i turn the screen back on. And i do believe this has been killing my battery life a bit. I have wiped before i flashed. I tried it with the original GB radio/MR2/MR2.5. I've flash different kernels. Wifi sleep is set to never.
Note: I tried running an app such as Pandora on while the screen was off and only in situations like this the WiFi doesn't have the problem.
tethering is ****ed up as well in gb, screen off, no tether, screen on and everything is okay. personally i think that something is ****ed up at the kernel, i switched back to froyo and problems went away.
For the record.....if I set wifi sleep policy to never when plugged in I still receive notifications instantly but it's through 3G because when I wake the phone 3g is active instead of wifi.
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This is something I've brought up before too, but nobody addresses it because there probably isn't an answer about a whether it's the kernel or rom. I've just come to terms that I can't use wifi. For those who are suggesting we didn't clear data appropriately, that's not the issue. Most of us who have this wifi problem have been determined enough to try multiple clean installs to get to the bottom of this issue.
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This is something I've brought up before too, but nobody addresses it because there probably isn't an answer about a whether it's the kernel or rom. I've just come to terms that I can't use wifi. For those who are suggesting we didn't clear data appropriately, that's not the issue. Most of us who have this wifi problem have been determined enough to try multiple clean installs to get to the bottom of this issue.
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Shall I throw another quirk into our problem?............... I flashed CM7.1 RC1 early this morning. This is the best ROM I've put on my TBolt yet. WIFI seems to be working flawlessly except for right after the initial install it wouldn't download anything, through browser or even open the market. After a reboot, I'm going strong. I am receiving messages and data when phone's screen is off. I'm beginning to think that it might be a Sense 3.0 problem....any thoughts from the peanut gallery?
The problem with GB is that it is not official. The ROM is not final (or has been ported from a different phone), kernel is not final, and neither is the radio. We shouldn't be surprised that a lot of features don't work properly. Now cyanogen do their own Roms and kernels basically from scratch, and maybe that is why it's working. GB was fun to have, but i just switched to Froyo for faster 4g speeds, ability to tether properly and better battery life. I'll wait for the proper GB before switching again.
Yeah not Gingeritis 3d but the normal version.... I've noticed also that it seems settings don't change, Like I have turned off Haptic feedback yet still get it when i type on the keyboard, and still get weather sounds with the sounds turned off. This is every time I flash even with 5 wipes. Settings don't seem to stick.
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Yeah not Gingeritis 3d but the normal version.... I've noticed also that it seems settings don't change, Like I have turned off Haptic feedback yet still get it when i type on the keyboard, and still get weather sounds with the sounds turned off. This is every time I flash even with 5 wipes. Settings don't seem to stick.
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For the keyboard not turning off haptic feedback, you have to go to the settings in the keyboard to disable it. Settings->Language and Keyboard->Touch Input->Text Input->Uncheck Vibrate While Typing.
WI FI Alternative
And I thought I was the only one having problems with wifi tether on gingeritis 3D. I posted a question in a different forum but no one answered me. So after trying different versions of wireless tether I found one that is working perfectly for me. It is wireless tether v2.0.5. I've been using it for 2 days with no issues and phone screen doesn't have to be on. Now, this may not work for everybody, like I said I tried different versions until I found the right one.
Here is the link: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I hope this helps some of you.
Okay.......!!!!!!!! Thanks to the folks over at theMikMik.com (akaGingeritis ROMs) forums I now have working WiFi with the Gingeritis ROMs. Just download Advanced WiFi Lock from the Marketplace and set it up and you're good to go! Now that wasn't hard was it guys/gals? I've been looking for an answer for so long I can't even remember when I started....oh wait it was the first day that Gingerbread were available by these great developers!!!! Sorry, I didn't mean to vent, I'm not mad just very excited that now I can enjoy these Gingerbread ROMs. So everyone else that's having problems with the WiFi staying connected, download Advanced WiFi Lock from the Marketplace and get your Ginger on!
So is that the free version, or the paid version? You're finding that your WiFi now says connected even if the phone is sleeping? To do some more testing, I fully charged my phone, turned on my WiFi, and connected to my home wireless for 5 hours, just let the phone sit. Used 50% of my battery. Next day, same thing, but had WiFi off, 4g on. 5 hours later, used 15% of battery. Pretty sucky that I can't use my TB on my own home network.
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So is that the free version, or the paid version? You're finding that your WiFi now says connected even if the phone is sleeping? To do some more testing, I fully charged my phone, turned on my WiFi, and connected to my home wireless for 5 hours, just let the phone sit. Used 50% of my battery. Next day, same thing, but had WiFi off, 4g on. 5 hours later, used 15% of battery. Pretty sucky that I can't use my TB on my own home network.
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I'm using the free version as the paid doesn't offer any extra features I needed. I left my phone connected to WiFi all night idle, about 7.5 hours, and only used 13% of battery and received all messages. I can't test on 4G so please provide feedback for others.
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Not so lucky. Downloaded and installed advanced WiFi lock. Connected to my home wireless and see the same exact results. WiFi just sucking battery. Still draining at about 10% an hour on WiFi and about 3% an hour on 4g. I'm so confused over this, how is WiFi draining battery more than 4g? Phone isn't even usable on WiFi. Checking battery usage stats as noticed that the phone is constantly awake when WiFi is on.
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Some SGS2 problems could be device specific? Maybe? Post your findings...

Hi, I have recently come back to an SGS2 after dumping one after they first came out. The reason for me was terrible battery life, the 3G, H, H+ switching lockup issue, and poor GPS performance. At the time I think the most recent firmware was XXKE4. My original phone was originally on 3, which I de-branded and upgraded every time a newer version of firmware got released, after a couple of weeks use I noticed a duff pixel, so re-branded, took it back and swapped it for another, did the same customisation and it was still no good, I could be wrong, but I think the received signal strength was worse on the second one too. In any case the aforementioned issues still remained. In the end I got rid of it and went for a HTC sensation.
This proved, ultimately, to be a bad choice, what with all the dust issues, and an even bigger battery life problem than the SGS2, also, despite popular belief, i think the build quality of the SGS2 is better, sensation is horrible and creaky. Anyway, I ended up getting all disappointed with dual-core phones, and went back to my trusty old LG optimus one for a bit of normality. Eventually tho, I got the opportunity to own an SGS2 again, and I crumbled..
Now, I have an SGS2, I was immediately greeted with a software update, which I did, to XWKG4, still 3 branded, only mod was insecure kernel, root, reflash standard kernel. That's it.
Now I have no 3G, H, H+ switching issues, it takes its time sometimes but never gets completely stuck like it used to, GPS is better, Signal strength is actually good, no browser flash crashes, and most impressive, even set up as it was before with multiple push email, whatsapp, skype running constantly, twitter, constant syncing, wifi on all the time, gps on all the time, no battery saving at all, it's using about 4% an hour in standby. Which I think is pretty darn good. In fact, I can't find anything to complain about.
Seems to me, some of these problems could be related to individual handsets, so i'm keeping this one, and not gonna be messing with any ROM's either.
Anyone else got one that "just seems to work"?
Pink spot on camera is my only problem, playing with white balance almost solves this. I get 10 - 12hrs heavy use, 36hrs medium use and 48ish hrs light use. all with wifi on constantly, gps on, emails on push. no signal issues, no yellow or blue tint on screen. sound through headphones is great on power amp, never used stock player, no wake up lag. from reading on here we may be the lucky ones tho, either that or the other happy people don't bother posting
Btw I'm on unbranded voda UK, kf3, stock Rom without root
My wifi keeps dropping out. It'll work for 10 minutes and then stop completely yet still show bars of signal. Latest firmware i've used is KG3. I've now taken it in to be fixed.
No Probs with wifi here, seems to work just fine. Actually, just had my first issue, although nothing major, was using the built in email app, just went to reply to an email and it kept insisting that it was an unrecognized email address, wouldn't let me reply, so just binned it and gone back to using Gmail.
Had 2 phones from O2 in the UK and both have poor in call volume through the headset.
Music volume is fine. I think it uses different hardware for voice calls? Which means it might not be fixable via firmware. I'll make do tho cause everything else is smashing!
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Awake time issues since radio updates

Ok so here is my setup, I've been rooted since the hour that Revolutionary first dropped, been on plenty or ROMs, stick with Decks Sense ROM, and currently have all firmware up to date. Prior to the 2.3.4 update, my phone slept amazingly well, the little blips on the battery use graph page almost always lined up perfectly between the screen on and awake bars. When the update was released and the new radios were posted, I originally flashed the newest radio/pri combo just to have everything that matters up to date. I quickly realized that after doing so, my phone didn't sleep well at all, the "awake" bar had many little slivers of activity when the screen was off. Keeping in mind that I'm no noob and have been troubleshooting to the best of my abilities, I could use some help now... I have tried reflashing ROMs, turning off the Google auto backup/restore, leaving the phone stock with 0 third party apps and probably other things to try to pinpoint my issue. I have even went and flashed the whole new firmware minus hboot combo pack in hopes of correcting this but to no avail... I'm not sure what else to try so I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable than myself can offer me some pointers or suggestions. Attached are some screened showing what I'm talking about. Please note that while my battery life is still pretty decent, and this was a particularly good day, this was with the phone rarely being used as I was at work all day.
Here are the screens showing the issue.
I have the same issue. And my phone is official ROM without rooted or unlocked. (buy from HTC) So, I guess it is a bug from HTC (nothing to do with custom ROM)
Bumped since I'm really hoping to see hear some ideas.
Pretty please...

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