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Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
Man I guess ur in the same boat as quite a few of us. Sit back realx, wait for clockwork, wait for ROMS, and prepare to have fun when all of the previously mentioned items to start appearing and enjoy having the beat hardware available at this point.
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you chill.. till the next episode.
We're close. Hang tight.
Next big thing is the official Froyo update, I guess. This thing is already flying so fast, I can't wait to see how Froyo runs on it. I had installed KaosFroyo on my old Droid Eris, which made it actually functional again, but despite that ARMv6 CPU's (or was it ARMv5?) best effort while overclocked to 710MHz, along with the JIT compiler, it just could offer me the experience I was looking for.
Can't wait to see what people can do with the Fascinate, though at this level of performance, I will probably be less likely to install custom ROMS. Plus, the Fascinate ROM has some very nice bells and whistles, like the WiFi/BT/GPS/Airplane on/off buttons on the notification screen, which you don't get with a plain vanilla ROM. Now, if somebody comes out with a Gingerbread ROM, I just might be interested.
I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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Have you tried switching to LauncherPro? That will give you a good speed boost overall. The lag fix should take care of the rest. I saw the same issues as you, which are all gone after these mods.
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Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
The lag fix actually made my phone run worse..installed it..and it ruins like a dream
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There is no need to move an app to system just to uninstall another one. I use ADW launcher and have uninstalled TW launcher. Keep in mind, when you do the uninstall you must have your other launcher set to default or bad things will happen. After the uninstall the phone will go into a FC fit. Simply reboot and all will be golden.
After removing TW launcher I haven't seen any lag, and I never applied the "lag fix".
Hope that helps
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Yeah I figured that was true, I just wanted to make Launcher Pro even more official by making it a SYSTEM app .
I'm going to give it a shot now. Here's to hoping I won't require an Odin restore of any kind...
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Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
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REPLACE BING OR COURSE!
http://forum.androidcentral.com/fas...11-got-google-widget-works-now-bing-dead.html
theicemonkey said:
Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
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NOOO WAY!! The Incredible I had doesn't even compare to the speed I'm getting from my Fascinate! The Incredible I even had Froyo on it!! That thing was crap for me.. Lets not get on the topic of battery life...
The battery life on the Incredible was no good, I will agree with you on that. But, in terms of overall system smoothness (remember, NOT games or multimedia), the Fascinate (along with all of the other Galaxy S phones) doesn't play in the same league as the Incredible yet.
In addition to my personal encounters of sluggishness on 2 Fascinates, 1 Vibrant, 1 Captivate, and 1 Epic 4G, a few of the reviews I read mention this problem as well:
"More than once the phone locked up doing what we considered to be basic tasks, such as switching between apps or back to the homescreen. The Fascinate just seemed to stall out, often at the most inconvenient times, and we were left to simply wait until it sorted out whatever memory or processor issues it seemed to be having. Comparatively, a device like the Incredible rarely if ever stalled out on us, even during heavy use."
Engadget, September 7, 2010
"...That’s not to say Samsung has no room for improvement...we still observed a few of the periodic stalls that mar the overall user experience."
Slash Gear, September 7, 2010
"As much as I like the UI I did find some of the menu pops and screen flips to stutter a bit."
Geek, September 17, 2010
It's not like the phone is "slow", it just stutters and holds in places the Incredible never did, like the lock screen, or pulling down the notification bar, or when long pressing to get menus, even with the lag fix, TWLauncher removed, and no live wallpaper (which are tweaks I have done to ALL US flavors of this phone). Even flipping between home screens on the Incredible is noticeably faster than any Galaxy S when both phones have Launcher Pro installed. I think it's just a question of pickiness when it comes to the smoothness of animations. Again, I have noticed these issues on EVERY Galaxy S phone I have encountered, not a single, possibly defective, phone.
I really, really want this phone to live up to it's fancy hardware through development from the great people around here, which is why I will probably keep it as a sort of investment. Here's to hoping the community around it continues to grow!
My Incredible with Froyo does not compare to the Fascinate with Eclair (no lag fix, TW still present but running LauncherPro Plus).
It's not even close.
Battery life on the Fascinate is phenomenal compared to the Incredible. The only thing I miss on the Incredible is the support (duh, it's been out since April 29) and the optical trackpad (makes editing text much easier).
My x10 is not as smooth as a HTC Legend, an older iPod, iPhone 4 and more phones,
Why is this stupid thing?
Thanks for an answer if you reply.
Mine is quite smooth.
But maybe you thing it isn't as smooth as other devices because it has a 32fps cap.
Flo95 said:
Mine is quite smooth.
But maybe you thing it isn't as smooth as other devices because it has a 32fps cap.
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I guess you've never seen the smoothness of an iPhone 4... Can developers here on XDA remove the cap when the bootloader gets cracked?
I find it very smooth...
The stock firmware isn't, but custom roms are super smooth.. Mine never lags or freezes, and I've use all that you have mentioned above..
Same here. with 2.1 using various roms, there was a noticeable lag, especially moving from an app to the dialler. I'm now using 2.2 cm mod(6. 1.3) and the difference is pretty amazing, no discernable lag atall.
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iphones are definitely more responsive to the touch. as far as scrolling and everything.
but my x10 with the custom 2.2.1 rom, adw, and all the tweeks is smooth as fast and sometimes seems faster at opening apps and stuff than my gf's evo. so im happy as long as i have these great developers.
tho i do wish it had come like this out of the box.
Well considering the lack of true multi tasking on an iphone it makes sense that it would be smoother as it hardly has to use any of it's ram or processing cpu...
Anyhow, this thread is posted here about every two weeks, if you want an iphone go get one. I'd pick my x10 over one any day
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Well considering the lack of true multi tasking on an iphone it makes sense that it would be smoother as it hardly has to use any of it's ram or processing cpu...
Anyhow, this thread is posted here about every two weeks, if you want an iphone go get one. I'd pick my x10 over one any day
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amen to this...
i agree with the two above. had an iphone before this.
only thing i see better about it would be a majority of the apps and games.
the phone itself is much better than an iphone.
+1 for the 'il take my x10 over any iphone any day'
and also +1 for ' it didnt come out of the box as good as it can be'
but its got potential with a bit of research and some modifications... iit can do waayy more than an iphone can
and with the right mods its as smooth as it needs to be imo
well said ^^
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Well considering the lack of true multi tasking on an iphone it makes sense that it would be smoother as it hardly has to use any of it's ram or processing cpu...
Anyhow, this thread is posted here about every two weeks, if you want an iphone go get one. I'd pick my x10 over one any day
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Did I every say that my x10 sucks? Im just wondering something dumb ass.
Good one, and very mature..
Your parents must be very proud.
fiscidtox said:
Good one, and very mature..
Your parents must be very proud.
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Brave kid -.-
PlayGunsta said:
Brave kid -.-
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Firstly, I'm a 28 year old man...
Secondly, wow I'm terrified!
hahahaha .
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amen to this...
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Indeed it is, Iphone just pretends of multitasking. SE really deserve that title In X1, X2 and X10 has a Multitask Powner Title!! Compared to iphone, even a intel PIII running just Clock App would be smooth
Wow - When did we all get so good at going completely off topic!..
I had lots of problems with the stock rom being jittery and generally slow.. I didn't want to move to a custom ROM cos none of them are complete.. so I've rooted, installed JIT, and removed some of the preinstalled apps that I don't want (Timescape, and moxier mainly.) now it's fast and smooth..
What if I want to keep Timescape and Moxier? (They are one of the main reasons I'm not switching to a custom rom, other than battery life)
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What if I want to keep Timescape and Moxier? (They are one of the main reasons I'm not switching to a custom rom, other than battery life)
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moxier - not a problem, you can purchase it from the market if you need it - there are other email clients anyway but if you like this particular one...
timescape - there are other social media aggregators also, tweetdeck was one that i played with once.
personally i would switch to a custom 2.1 rom and get some alternate apps running. you wont look back I say custom 2.1 rom so you get a complete rom and not a beta. i am running a 2.2 cyanogen rom and its 98% functional but i can understand why others dont like to run beta roms!
how this all relates to the OP? custom roms run so much smoother due to the lack of bloatware and not using the SE launcher. it is a resource pig and when it combines with time/mediascape running in the background at all times - the x10 drags to a halt. i switched to custom roms a while back and have not considered going back at all. closest thing i did was run KXHawkins high performance 2.1 rom for a while - it is based on the SE 2.1 rom with all the crap removed or modified.
Hi, first of all I love my SGS2, this is my 3rd android phone and I couldn't be happier. This phone is great. BUT... There's one thing that's bugging me. Every rom and kernel I've tried have the same problem. Lag. I'm NOT talking in games or the loading of applications, because this phone FLIES through those tasks. It's small areas where there shouldn't be the smallest amount of lag i.e. scrolling and the homescreen. I hope someone could shed some light on this for me. Everyone talks about how great this phone is and how there's absolutely no lag. Well have you used an iphone. Their like butter. We've got a phone that ****s power and they've got weak hardware in comparison. What gives?
Thanks for reading...
ive noticed if i have the phone plugged into a different charger, ( non oem samsung) there is alot of lag on the phone, its almost impossible to type cause its so annoying! lol its weird cause i thought it was the rom and tried flashing a few roms and it was all the same! found out it was because i was using a htc charger instead of the samsung one. weird cause its the same charging specs and a micro sd cable is all the same!!
Yea I've heard of that. It's indeed weird. I think there is something about it in the manual as well if I remember correctly (yes I read the manual for once!). Any ideas on the home screen/scroll lag?
I'm only on 2.3.3 ROM stock, and it's been great so I don't find the need to flash to other custom ROMS yet
The Touchwiz homescreen for me is buttery smooth. I mean, I've loaded alot of widgets on the thing and it's still smooth
ADW Launcher Ex homescreen scrolling is laggy for me though. No idea why, as the rest of the functions fly (ie app drawer scrolling, app opening, etc)
i also feel there's a tiny lag sometimes... don't know why... btw,i'm using go launcher
I'm also on stock 2.3.3 now and I think I'm going to stay with stocks for a while. I've used different launchers including ADW Launcher Ex and Go launcher Ex but they all have lag at some area. @rantzzz have you used an iphone before? how would you compare the homescreen to our S2. @sept20 can you please look under the battery and see where your phone was made? I.e. mine was made in korea. Thank-you.
Comparing the iPhone homescreen scroll and the Touchwiz 4.0 scroll on SGS2, the iPhone is much much smoother
But the stock Touch wiz 4.0 isn't a slouch also. There is a noticeable fraction of a lag when you swipe, but nothing too big
Thanks for confirming rantzzz. Yeah that fraction of lag when you swype is what I'm talking about. I also experience something similar in my apps drawer. I just can't figure out why Samsung couldn't have optimized something so small and argumentatively most important since it's the portal to everything you do on your phone! Maybe they will fix this in a future update or possibly in ICS.
Well i noticed if i use the 2x4 weather widget i get lag scrolling, shrinking it down and i lost the lag. I dunno if this will help you guys but worth a pop.
I get the lag no matter what, 100 widgets or no widgets. It would be interesting to hear if it helps anybody else though.
OP, Can you give us a full list of all software installed on your device, because I've NEVER seen lag on my phone. I've used TouchWiz, Launcher Pro and have finally settled on Go Launcher, and this phone makes the iPhone 4 looks slow and tedious, so I can only suggest that you have some software that is causing problems.
Edit: Okay, it doesn't make the iPhone 4 look slow. But it is clearly faster and smoother.
A list of software is pointless because I'm experiencing the problem at absolute stock. Whether it is my stock vodafone rom or a stock custom rom. If you wouldn't mind johncmolyneux could you please look under your battery and see where your phone was made? Also what rom and kernel you are using? Thank-you
rantzzz said:
Comparing the iPhone homescreen scroll and the Touchwiz 4.0 scroll on SGS2, the iPhone is much much smoother
But the stock Touch wiz 4.0 isn't a slouch also. There is a noticeable fraction of a lag when you swipe, but nothing too big
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I have to disagree here, my mate has an iPhone4 and compared to my GS2 it's definitelty not as smooth,my GS2 is much faster too and the display whilst good on both phones is definitely better on mine even my mate (relucantly) admitted that.
Scrollable wallpapers and live wallpapers kill the smoothness. Have a stationary wallpaper that doesn't scroll as you swipe and you'll see how smooth this baby is.
iPhone's launcher seems smoother because it doesn't let you install any wallpaper that'll slow down the homescreen.
I believe it is smooth. My friend (Iphone 4) user actually used my phone and he said that it was smoother and faster than his Ip4. But then again, actually at that time I just purchased it like an hour before. So it was really stock brand new and I have not actually installed anything yet.
I think the word 'lag' is misleading. Lag would actually imply that when you swipe the screen that it takes a moment to react. Do you really have that problem? I do not. The only time I could say I have with lag is the home button reaction speed - which isn't lag, it's because of the voice activation feature.
HOWEVER ...
What I would say is that slowly swiping between screens is far from buttery smooth - I would describe it as slightly juddery. If you swipe fast you barely notice, and if you scroll through the dots it's beautifuly smooth and impressive! BTW I've had 3 different firmwares and casual screen swiping has been equally unsmooth on all..
My question to all is... If you casually/slowly swipe between screens, do you find the animation smooth or a little juddery?
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ok, some lag is there, but yesterday when i tried miui, and there was absolutely no lag...
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OP, Can you give us a full list of all software installed on your device, because I've NEVER seen lag on my phone. I've used TouchWiz, Launcher Pro and have finally settled on Go Launcher, and this phone makes the iPhone 4 looks slow and tedious, so I can only suggest that you have some software that is causing problems.
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Mine was made in Korea and I'm using stock ROM (XWKE2) that has been rooted.
I've been so happy with stock ROM that I'm not seeing any need to put anything custom on it.
Hope you find the cause of your problem mate, because your phone is definitely not living up to its possibilities! Any chance of a video of your lag?
Im using launcherpro and i dont feel any lag while scrolling in the homescreens :S
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Im using launcherpro and i dont feel any lag while scrolling in the homescreens :S
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Launcher pro reminds me of one que I had- when i was using villain rom 1.4 lite, the launcher pro that came preinstalled didn't have any lag, but when I installed launcher pro on villain rom 1.4 (full version), i felt laggy app browser... why is it so? its also true with adw and go launcher... only thing changed now is that villain rom 1.4 days are gone with release of villain rom 2.0...
Hello ive brought the motorola atrix and i think its great but im afraid it has some flaws. Using a live wallpaper with golauncher gets everything laggy, the browser speed is awful. In somethings its lightning fast in others its even slower than other weaker phones. Im using the at&t atrix with the latest OTA update. Ah i forgot mention the touchscreen bug in games so called raindrop protection. I want to know if other roms like cyanogen mod would fix this issues. Because i cant believe they say that tegra 2 is better than an ipod touch 4g and in browser its slower. And will atrix ever recieve ice cream sandwich? Official or not? And i would be able to use webtop on cyanogenmod? Thanks!
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Lordareon said:
Hello ive brought the motorola atrix and i think its great but im afraid it has some flaws. Using a live wallpaper with golauncher gets everything laggy, the browser speed is awful. In somethings its lightning fast in others its even slower than other weaker phones. Im using the at&t atrix with the latest OTA update. Ah i forgot mention the touchscreen bug in games so called raindrop protection. I want to know if other roms like cyanogen mod would fix this issues. Because i cant believe they say that tegra 2 is better than an ipod touch 4g and in browser its slower. And will atrix ever recieve ice cream sandwich? Official or not? And i would be able to use webtop on cyanogenmod? Thanks!
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I'll try and answer some of these questions.
1) You should try using a custom kernel first of all, you should notice a huge difference in speed
2) Try using dolphin browser hd or opera browser and im sure your browsing experience will be much better
3) The atrix will receive ice cream sandwich for sure. Motorola is bound to release it for the atrix if it comes out before next july (which it will) as per the google handset agreement. The only way the atrix could not get ICS is if the hardware didn't allow for it. But the hardware on the atrix is better than the nexus S, and since that is getting ICS we are guaranteed our update.
4) Webtop on cm is being worked on
Thanks for the reply, ive been using dolphin and it is faster indeed. But yet not even close to ipod one. About the custom kernel can you point me to some instructions how to install it? Which relation it has with a custom rom? Thanks
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iphone and windows phone have hw acceleration. makes for better browsing and smoother everything. helps tremendously with battery too. hardware acceleration is something android is severely missing. let's hope ics brings it. it would breathe new life into even older phones.
Did the guys at google said sonething about it? I was hoping a stretch to fit feature so games with lower resolution would fit nicely and work too in bigger phones like atrix. I miss order & chaos so much :/
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Opera is lightning. It has hw acceleration
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I came from an iphone 4 and I love the ATRIX,
Then again I had many tweaks running lol but anywho try a custom rom, its like owning a whole mother phone now
I came from a Trash Zte Racer and an ipod touch 4g, and atrix is like the sum of their good parts. but in comparison to ipod touch i miss the game compability, display detail and speed =/ i dont think android is ugly nor "not usser friendly". its very intuitive too. ill try opera mobile. to see what it says, i just hope ICS brigs all those cool features plus the Android 3.0 and 3.1 features. I hope it be as tasty as a Real Ice Cream Sandwich. I was thinking abou custom rom. but nobody told me the diference of a custom kernel and a custom rom. and i'd like some features of atrix like the webtop, so ill wait a bit more till the cyanogen is stabilished to move to it.
why, I bought a new motorola razr, the first thing I see its this phone is really choppy and have too much lag comparing with samsung or htc devices I have =/
I just don't understand why, my droid 3 is more faster than razr and only have 512mb
soo, what I think, its related with motorola ui and version off android?! Can we have a clean cm7 with everthing working, including the webtop and tv mirror?
please tell me, because I'm start to be desapointed with my razr. I have a rezound with stock rom and 2.3.4 version, and runs pretty well.....more, the evo 3d and droid 3 are fast too....
this razr is like galaxy ace with performance and opening applications
into the phone option when I press one character it will take like 3 seconds to apear one name with the character I press....the others phones only take 0.10ms
another thing...the WIFI connection....why its soo week
EclipseX said:
why, I bought a new motorola razr, the first thing I see its this phone is really choppy and have too much lag comparing with samsung or htc devices I have =/
I just don't understand why, my droid 3 is more faster than razr and only have 512mb
soo, what I think, its related with motorola ui and version off android?! Can we have a clean cm7 with everthing working, including the webtop and tv mirror?
please tell me, because I'm start to be desapointed with my razr. I have a rezound with stock rom and 2.3.4 version, and runs pretty well.....more, the evo 3d and droid 3 are fast too....
this razr is like galaxy ace with performance and opening applications
into the phone option when I press one character it will take like 3 seconds to apear one name with the character I press....the others phones only take 0.10ms
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try using other launcher. im using go launcher. its pretty smooth with email n calendar widget on screen.
I already try, I have the ics launcher for now. but its not normal you see =
soo I've got a score with quadrante 2491....=/ its too low comapring to 3000 from my droid 3
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I already try, I have the ics launcher for now. but its not normal you see =
soo I've got a score with quadrante 2491....=/ its too low comapring to 3000 from my droid 3
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I'd experienced the same laggy with stock system I got with my first Raz. Got a replacement, a new system but same sdcard wich I though was bad. It's running flawless now.
I think it's related to system version (or a bad intallation). Try a new rom. Do wipe data and cache. If the issue persist you may have got a defective device. Mine is running smoothly now.
Also I tried the Chinese ICS leak and the system get even better.
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another thing I found is my second cpu is offline
EclipseX said:
why, I bought a new motorola razr, the first thing I see its this phone is really choppy and have too much lag comparing with samsung or htc devices I have =/
I just don't understand why, my droid 3 is more faster than razr and only have 512mb
soo, what I think, its related with motorola ui and version off android?! Can we have a clean cm7 with everthing working, including the webtop and tv mirror?
please tell me, because I'm start to be desapointed with my razr. I have a rezound with stock rom and 2.3.4 version, and runs pretty well.....more, the evo 3d and droid 3 are fast too....
this razr is like galaxy ace with performance and opening applications
into the phone option when I press one character it will take like 3 seconds to apear one name with the character I press....the others phones only take 0.10ms
another thing...the WIFI connection....why its soo week
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I'm still asking myself why I still have this phone. It is laggy and choppy and I hate it. I bought a $300 phone and its **** honestly. The only thing that is keeping me from selling this phone is that I flashed the first leak of ICS and boy it our phone smooth. The first leak was fast, smooth, and just amazing. If official ICS isn't here by the end of may im getting a better phone.
really...its soo smoth? whats don't work? I almost want to install the leak one
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really...its soo smoth? whats don't work? I almost want to install the leak one
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I am using the ICS leak 6.14.75 with Apex launcher and for me it's smooth. Quadrant score is around 3000 plus or minus. What's not working varies case by case from what I read in the forum but for me, only three issues so far.
1. Battery level is way off when I first flashed it but now seems fine after I wiped cache and reset. I also used a free battery calibrate app from the market.
2. Sometimes I need to press power button twice to wake up the phone. Maybe it's because I don't have screen lock on but I don't care much. I am pretty sure it's a bug in this version.
3. 3g/4g icon sometimes shows in notification bar even when data is off. But again I don't care because I mainly use widgets to show my data ON/OFF anyway.
I am actually debating if I want to move on to official ICS when it's available. There are a lot more bloats to be add on the official release. With the leaked version I can uninstall any bloat in the system app without worrying about future OTA since leaked ICS won't get OTA anyway LOL. This is just a personal preference. I don't like anything that I don't use in my device.
Are you using Rom Toolbox (or some other tool), and changed the governor?
You want mot_hotplug unless you have a specific reason NOT to use it.
You'll get very choppy response with the ondemand governor.
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I don't find any lag on mine..its rooted and on stock ROM 2.3.6, Asia version. And I am using Go Launcher EX at the moment.. Its smooth as butter..
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im having the same problem with the stock, never rooted latest update. before it was butter, now its laggy as all hell.
I have the original mode in processor
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