Just received my Jetstream yesterday, and so far so good. Absolutely love the look and feel and Honeycomb simply rocks in this form factor. Compared to Ipad, I'd say at least as good and if you're an android fan, it obviously wins.
A couple of points:
-ATT didn't ship the scribe pen, and now I'm having to deal w/ them on how to get it. Be careful if you haven't ordered yet.
-We need it rooted: It's loaded w/ ATT crapware, and it's always running in the bg.
-Google Video: Where is it?? Why not?? Anyone know of an apk that'll work? I tried one I saw floating around on the Inspire forum, but it force closed every time I opened it.
-Battery life is awesome! And... It solved my inspire battery issues, as I use it only 1/2 as much now and get 2 days use.
-Case: We need a good case for this thing; I constantly feel like I'm going to drop it (esp in landscape mode) and am afraid it'll get scratched up when in a bag for travel.
It's a great tab, I highly recommend it if price isn't a big issue.
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Scratch that... As soon as I submitted the above, the Scribe pen arrived separately/next day in it's own package. Haven't tried it yet.
I have try the pen in the store and it works awsome.
How much did you pay for it?
-Battery life is awesome!
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Wait, seriously? I would have thought the battery would have been raped away with Sense UX + AT&T's bloatware.
I agree with the original post. I have had the JS three days now. I didn't find the price too high for what you get. Side by side with Acer, Xoom etc it is clearly better built, and an equal or better performer. I need a tablet that works internationally and this is it... The Galaxy Tab was nicer looking but Verizon only, and I do not work well on iOS.
And the microSD card is very cool - I can carry lots of music, books and vids, and update the card offline (that is, without syncing a device). That's important to me.
Scrolling and general UI is very good. Functionality is typical for Honeycomb. The built in browser is slow and basic, but functional.
Battery life is very good. I have not run low yet, on moderate daily use. I'm not straining the system tho - clear wireless, no 4g in Seattle, no Bluetooth and I usually keep GPS off. That said videos, email, browsing etc. do not drain it as fast as I'd thought. The real test is an upcoming 9 hour flight.
The screen is not as nice as either iPad or Galaxy Tab (IMHO), but is very good with accurate colors. The camera is amazing.
Wish there were more accessories - I need a case.
Finding a JS in stock is hard. In Seattle each AT&T store only got one in! I had to travel before finding a physical unit to play with. You can get them online, but I wanted to have it in hand. The pen was also not in stock, and it is in the mail.
When the price comes down you'll see more people getting these.
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Could someone try handwritting recognition using WritePad? It's kind of keyboard app so can be used anywhere need text input. It works with capacitive stylus on froyo and GB, i dont know whether it will work with the htc pen. The app is $10, i havent bought yet. Could you please aslo check whether the htc pen works with highlight and free draw annotations in Repligo or ezPDF? Thanks.
Storage Space
Could I ask what you guys show for total storage space? I show 11.8gigs of total storage with 11.26gigs free.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Tim
dukenyrl said:
Could I ask what you guys show for total storage space? I show 11.8gigs of total storage with 11.26gigs free.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Tim
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Same here. 11.81
Doesn't sound right for it to not count 20 gigs. Have you checked size via usb disc connection?
dcd17 said:
Just received my Jetstream yesterday, and so far so good. Absolutely love the look and feel and Honeycomb simply rocks in this form factor. Compared to Ipad, I'd say at least as good and if you're an android fan, it obviously wins.
A couple of points:
-ATT didn't ship the scribe pen, and now I'm having to deal w/ them on how to get it. Be careful if you haven't ordered yet.
-We need it rooted: It's loaded w/ ATT crapware, and it's always running in the bg.
-Google Video: Where is it?? Why not?? Anyone know of an apk that'll work? I tried one I saw floating around on the Inspire forum, but it force closed every time I opened it.
-Battery life is awesome! And... It solved my inspire battery issues, as I use it only 1/2 as much now and get 2 days use.
-Case: We need a good case for this thing; I constantly feel like I'm going to drop it (esp in landscape mode) and am afraid it'll get scratched up when in a bag for travel.
It's a great tab, I highly recommend it if price isn't a big issue.
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Scratch that... As soon as I submitted the above, the Scribe pen arrived separately/next day in it's own package. Haven't tried it yet.
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The tablet is nice as you say, I found a nice HTC gel case at at&t, it fits it like a glove because its actually made by HTC not some generic brand.
Also I got a car mount for it: http://www.arkon.com/tablet-accessories/universal-tablet-car-mount.html
or if you want windshield version: http://www.arkon.com/tablet-accessories/universal-tablet-windshield-mount.html
- Dan
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dukenyrl said:
Could I ask what you guys show for total storage space? I show 11.8gigs of total storage with 11.26gigs free.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Tim
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There are 2 seperate 16GB internal cards in the tablet, one for apps and software, another just for storage.
Why would it say total available 11.8gigs with free of 11.26gigs?
dukenyrl said:
Why would it say total available 11.8gigs with free of 11.26gigs?
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Something about partitioned for the system.
All memory devices are like that.
A 16GB card usually has 14gigs or so available
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I have a 4gb SC card installed. In the system settings, under Storage I see 11.81GB total space. I'm guessing windows is adding both internal and external storage, because Windows tells me I have 16GB free.
One thing I noticed that I love on my flyer is being able to send tech messages/MMS messages like I would on a phone. Does the jetstream do this too like the flyer..?
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Hi guys
I need ur advice
I am looking to a tablet
I already own Notion ink Adam,but it is suck tablet
I am confused between Flyer or to wait foe Transformer 3G
So can u help me to take my decision
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I have a Flyer and a Transformer. I feel a bit stuck with both...
Flyer pros: 7in size, good batt life, scribe pen.
Flyer cons: Micro sd card access blows, could be a bit bulky to some, screen small for video next to a 10 in.
Transformer pro: Like a Netbook, but without the fail of windo$e, doesn't get hot like a pc because all the parts are in screen, many features any other tablet won't have, sd car slot, keyboard w/batt built-in, Big screen for video, up to 16 hr batt life.
Transformer cons: software from Asus blows namely the browser, bulky with keyboard, charger cord short.
It's up to you what works best. If the flyer had an sd card slot iwould probaby have sold my tf.
Flyer 10 inch coming soon ! Wait for the same
vipfreak said:
I have a Flyer and a Transformer. I feel a bit stuck with both...
Flyer pros: 7in size, good batt life, scribe pen.
Flyer cons: Micro sd card access blows, could be a bit bulky to some, screen small for video next to a 10 in.
Transformer pro: Like a Netbook, but without the fail of windo$e, doesn't get hot like a pc because all the parts are in screen, many features any other tablet won't have, sd car slot, keyboard w/batt built-in, Big screen for video, up to 16 hr batt life.
Transformer cons: software from Asus blows namely the browser, bulky with keyboard, charger cord short.
It's up to you what works best. If the flyer had an sd card slot iwould probaby have sold my tf.
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It does have an sdcard slot. You mean one easier to access?
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Micro sd, not regular sized sd and yes, mentioned the fail access too.
xdaworld said:
Flyer 10 inch coming soon ! Wait for the same
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Are u sure about that
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Are u sure about that
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Check this out :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1243237
I would recommend to wait a while, because as you can read in this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142617
thread the Flyer has a big problem with compatibility, from my point of view. I can not say anything about this for the Transformer, maybe someone else can.
xdaworld said:
Check this out :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1243237
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Not "coming soon", the Jetstream has been out for a couple weeks now.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/index.jsp?device=HTC+Jetstream+%28TM%29+-+Shimmering+Silver&q_sku=sku5330326#fbid=O3vZEd3z6nm
While a nice looking tablet, its quite expensive ($700 on contract, $850 full retail), and a 7" tablet and 10" tablet are very different animals. Obviously, you get much more screen real estate on a 10", but its also much less portable.
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Kutchulu said:
I would recommend to wait a while, because as you can read in this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142617
thread the Flyer has a big problem with compatibility, from my point of view.
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Any Android device that does not have a phone function is going to be missing Market apps that have phone features. The intent is to prevent people from installing apps with "broken" features (features that don't work on their device). I haven't found compatibility to be much of a problem. Only a couple apps I typically use on my phone, are missing for the Flyer, and there have been other comparable apps.
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Any Android device that does not have a phone function is going to be missing Market apps that have phone features. The intent is to prevent people from installing apps with "broken" features (features that don't work on their device). I haven't found compatibility to be much of a problem. Only a couple apps I typically use on my phone, are missing for the Flyer, and there have been other comparable apps.
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Maybe it is just my Flyer, but if i look inside the Market with my browser and getting an "app not found" message for nearly 50% of the new introduced apps. I consider this a severe compatibility problem. Please see attached pics.
If i can not use an app because it has one feature "call support" and therefore needs a phone function then i think Android is on a wrong path. If i want to be patronized i would have bought an ios product. Maybe someone can check if his Flyer finds those apps and prove me wrong, then i will be very happy and can return my Flyer to get a working one. A nice example is tunein radio. I have installed the app but now it has disappeared from the market. I am not sure what is more annoying for the user. A not working phone function or disappearing apps depending whether the developer adds a phone function or not.
Please don't get me wrong, i love my Flyer but i think HTC had not thought this to the end. The missing phone function is, for my point of view, a great mistake. When i am looking for a pizza delivery or a cinema with my Flyer and then i have to pull my phone and type the number from my tablet screen to my phone a lot of the usability of the localization dependent search is lost. And compared to the other tablets the Flyer is very portable so i see no reason to carry a second device.
Kutchulu said:
Maybe it is just my Flyer, but if i look inside the Market with my browser and getting an "app not found" message for nearly 50% of the new introduced apps. I consider this a severe compatibility problem. Please see attached pics.
If i can not use an app because it has one feature "call support" and therefore needs a phone function then i think Android is on a wrong path. If i want to be patronized i would have bought an ios product. Maybe someone can check if his Flyer finds those apps and prove me wrong, then i will be very happy and can return my Flyer to get a working one.
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Might be a regional issue. I'm in the US, and off the X-ed off apps in your first pic, IMDB, NFL Rivals, Sweet N Spicy, Live Holdem Poker, and GroupMe are all listed as compatible with my Flyer. Sprinkle is listed as not compatible with ANY of my devices (my other device is an HTC Desire Z) since it requires a Tegra chipset (which the Flyer obviously does not have). Of the apps on your first pic, WiFi Finder is the only app that is listed in compatible with my phone, and not the Flyer.
On your second pic, SoundCloud, Official Rugby, Groupon and Workout Trainer are all compatible with the Flyer. iTriage is compatible with my phone, but not the Flyer (there is a tablet version, but it is also incompatible with the Flyer). NFL '11 International is listed is incompatible with all my devices, and says "This item cannot be installed in your device's country". The US version of that (NFL '11) is only compatible with my phone, and not the Flyer, probably since one of the permissions is "read phone state and identity".
Thanks a lot for cross checking this for me. Now i will contact my provider (where i bought the Flyer) and will ask him why my Flyer is so different. This is really weird.
If you visit the market on your desktop computer (and presumably on the tablet's browser), it says whether the app is compatible/incompatible with your device(s), and you can click on it for details (just below where you click to buy or install, on the left side of the screen). The reasons given for the incompatible apps varied for me from "This item cannot be installed in your device's country" (NFL international version, but US version was compatible) to a somewhat vague "This item is not compatible with your device" and "This application is not available for your carrier".
Do you see any pattern to the reason's for incompatibility? For some apps, it just may be that the developer does not support all regions/countries.
I am staying at Nigeria
If get it can I use the 3g here
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@ redpoint73: I figured out that somehow my content filter was set to lowest level. I do not how this could happen. The only thing i know: It wasn't me.^^ Thanks for your help, HTC Support was less helpful. Now the situation is a little bit better. But it is still annoying not having the possibility to use Whatsup for example, just because it offers the function to call your contacts. For me an Android device needs a phone and i think i am not alone here.
@ bmw-boy: Therefore you need to know the used band in Nigeria.
Here you find the HTC Flyer specs:
http://www.htc.com/www/tablets/htc-flyer/#specs
bmw-boy said:
I am staying at Nigeria
If get it can I use the 3g here
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According to the following webpage, the carrier Airtel in Nigeria uses 2100 MHz for 3G:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
And according to the specs Kutchulu linked to above for the 3G Flyer, it is compatible with 2100 MHz (which is also the 3G band used in most of Europe). So it should work on that carrier in Nigeria.
Kutchulu said:
@ redpoint73: I figured out that somehow my content filter was set to lowest level. I do not how this could happen. The only thing i know: It wasn't me.^^ Thanks for your help, HTC Support was less helpful. Now the situation is a little bit better.
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Don't know if anything I posted was actually very helpful, but your welcome!
I'm not familiar with this "content filter". This isn't a feature of your Google account, or the Flyer itself, is it (because I don't see those settings anywhere)? Is it a feature of your carrier?
Hi all,
I'm in two minds whether or not to get the Flyer...
Do any of you regret purchasing one?
I had the iPad 2 but was bored of not being able to do anything. I then swapped it with my wifes Tab 10.1 but that didn't appeal to me neither....
Help....Please
Depends on your use cases whether you'll be satisfied.
If you describe what you'll use it for it would help us to be able to tell you if it will be a good or a disappointing experience for you.
Butterflygirl probably has the best overall experience of tablets and can probably guide you more than most of us.
To me, the active digitizer is what makes the Flyer special. I need the ability to make quick ink annotations on the fly, and this does it for me. I also own a Thinkpad tablet, but it is way too bulky to carry around. So, if this feature is important for you, I definitely say it's worth it. Just my opinion.
It's just for reading whilst travelling, doodling and web browsing - that's it....
I don't really need one, but ever since I saw the very first promo video, I haven't stopped thinking about it,lol
I use it more than my iPad. I like the size, pen, and reading
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globatron said:
Depends on your use cases whether you'll be satisfied.
If you describe what you'll use it for it would help us to be able to tell you if it will be a good or a disappointing experience for you.
Butterflygirl probably has the best overall experience of tablets and can probably guide you more than most of us.
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I think this means I need to quit shopping
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I had an iPad first gen and it was a nice tablet, but I got frustrated with its limitations. I currently have a View, a Flyer a Kindle Fire and an Archos 80. All of them have something that they do better than the others, but my overall favorite is the View/Flyer.
If you want to doodle, then you will probably want the Flyer. It is a great size to carry with you when you travel and the onscreen keyboard is one of the best I have used. It has haptic feedback and directional arrows. I use the pen some. For example, I will use it to take notes at meetings and more recently for annotating pictures of things related to our current home repairs.
The Kindle Fire is also great for reading and surfing, however, unless you root, it is a somewhat limited Android experience. It also lacks BT, GPS and sd card support.
I love my Archos, but it can be a little temperamental, but I can deal with it because I know how to make it behave.
The Flyer has a single core processor but it feels snappier than my other tablets.
To sum it up, I got Flyers for my husband and kids and they are all very happy with them.
I love the size and capabilities of the tablet. Very rarely looking back with regret. Every so often I'd love to have a 10" tablet for movie watching and games, but then I remember I can stuff this thing in my pocket.
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I had an iPad first gen and it was a nice tablet, but I got frustrated with its limitations. I currently have a View, a Flyer a Kindle Fire and an Archos 80. All of them have something that they do better than the others, but my overall favorite is the View/Flyer.
If you want to doodle, then you will probably want the Flyer. It is a great size to carry with you when you travel and the onscreen keyboard is one of the best I have used. It has haptic feedback and directional arrows. I use the pen some. For example, I will use it to take notes at meetings and more recently for annotating pictures of things related to our current home repairs.
The Kindle Fire is also great for reading and surfing, however, unless you root, it is a somewhat limited Android experience. It also lacks BT, GPS and sd card support.
I love my Archos, but it can be a little temperamental, but I can deal with it because I know how to make it behave.
The Flyer has a single core processor but it feels snappier than my other tablets.
To sum it up, I got Flyers for my husband and kids and they are all very happy with them.
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Thank you....It's getting delivered Friday
Iv never regretted getting mine. I do a lot of city travelling and its an ideal size to whip out on the bus/tube/train. A 10" struck me as too large, and watching people trying to balance their ipads and xooms on the tube is amusing. The pen and the excellent Notes app (if you use evernote daily as I do) is a great bonus.
As a counter argument the implementation of honeycomb i thought was poor (Why would I want a half-page news widget on a 7" screen?) i went back to gingerbread.
purchased mine for $299. Would not pay $600+ for a tablet so this price range brought me in. The fact that it was made by a quality producer like HTC also made a big difference. I do not think you are truely getting something that is equal to an Ipad 2, but at half the price why would you expect it. I find IOS to be boring, and it does not suite my personal usage. The Flyer is, in my opinion one of the better Android Tablets available. The smaller screen size allows it to actually be more portable, as a tablet should be otherwist just bring a laptop with you. The 1.5ghz processor gives you a snapier experience than most dual core tabs. The pen adds a nice functionality either for novelty, or for work/school. The only thing to consider is if you like sense or not. It does slow things down from time to time in my opinion but I like the feel and the functionality of it so it is more a win for me.
I should point out that I have the 3g/GSM model, not the US Wifi. I wanted something I could use as a phone, which further sets the Flyer apart from other tablets (save possibly the Viewsonic 7x if it ever ships). So my experience is a little different in that I was looking for more than most of the tablets out there deliver. The Viewsonic vPad7 was ok, but ran out of memory on me *way* too quickly.
Because this was also an unlocked GSM phone, my price point wasn't exactly $299, and I'm still a mostly satisfied customer. Now if only ICS was officially available for this bad boy...
Thank you everyone for the info....
It's arrived and I have S-Off'd it before I've even used it
I've not searched through the forum much as I thought I would ask you lot first as you seem to know what you're all talking about,
what ROM's are you running or what ROM have you found the best so far.
My model is the 3G/GSM model!
Thanks again
depends on HC or GB and what you are looking for.
If you are on HC and do not like sense
desensified or Honeypot
If on HC and like sense and want HW buttons and ability to make calls
LeeDroid
If on GB I can not advise as I have not had GB on my device for some time
mcord11758 said:
depends on HC or GB and what you are looking for.
If you are on HC and do not like sense
desensified or Honeypot
If on HC and like sense and want HW buttons and ability to make calls
LeeDroid
If on GB I can not advise as I have not had GB on my device for some time
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Thank you.....will give them a go
kurtish said:
Thank you everyone for the info....
It's arrived and I have S-Off'd it before I've even used it
I've not searched through the forum much as I thought I would ask you lot first as you seem to know what you're all talking about,
what ROM's are you running or what ROM have you found the best so far.
My model is the 3G/GSM model!
Thanks again
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Personally I think gingerbread suits the flyer a lot better than honeycomb. i like Sense a lot and I didnt think Sense for tablet HC was very good. I'd recommend LeeDroid GB, which suits me great.
That said, going back and forth from GB to HC, I thought was a lot harder than similar procedures on my phone so that may be a factor.
BishopBlaize said:
Personally I think gingerbread suits the flyer a lot better than honeycomb. i like Sense a lot and I didnt think Sense for tablet HC was very good. I'd recommend LeeDroid GB, which suits me great.
That said, going back and forth from GB to HC, I thought was a lot harder than similar procedures on my phone so that may be a factor.
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I'd agree with this. I started with a stock GB. S-Off and installed LeeDroid HC, but found that HC with Sense didn't feel right. The software buttons were distracting (although I found out later you can remove them). I went back to LeeDroid's GB and have used it ever since at 1.8Ghz.
The process to flash back and forth because of the different HBoot versions, radios, etc. is more hassle than it's worth. I just tried HC because I thought it would make a difference, but I ended up on LeeDroid's GB.
If/when ICS is released, I'll give it a try.
Hi I was wondering if anybody else has this Matrix One Tablet its only 60 buck witth a 1.5 ghz single core cpu and 4 gb storage http://mtxone.com/products/matrixone
I got one
I just got the Matrix one7, they put it on sale for $60 as well after the old one sold out. Looks like mostly the same specs except more onboard storage. Hopefully we'll see a bit of development for it on here.
Just got mine in yesterday. Gotta say it doesn't suck. It's a good basic tablet, and that's coming from someone who's never seen the point of a tablet lol. From talking with someone in the company it's apparently sold far better then they were ready for so hopefully someone a bit more code savvy and with more time on their hands then me bought it and will do some developing for it.
I just got the Matrix One, and I am considering the Matrix One7 at the discounted price except it doesn't have HDMI out, plus the CPU and camera seem to be a downgrade. I noticed in the build.prop its model is A10_MID and device name is crane_q7, google search doesn't bring anything comparable up. What would the devs need to build for this tablet?
The tablet comes rooted out of the box so all a dev would need is source code and the kernel from the tablet but since its running vanilla Android 4.0 it should be easy I think, mines should come Thursday!!!
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I just received my two today. Decent specs abs decent tablet. Would be willing to help out devs looking to take this on.
Riding the LTE waves on my unlocked VZWGS3 !
Yea I can't wait for mines I can't really find any decent reviews so when I get mines I will surly do a in-depth review and put it through it's paces
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Just got mine. Worked at first but installed just a couple nonroot common apps and it rebooted and just spins Android splash startup screen. Bummer. Suggestions? Cant find button combo for a recovery screen.
Seems it back and get a free one it's a one year warranty
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Would like to try hard reset if possible.
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Yea I can't wait for mines I can't really find any decent reviews so when I get mines I will surly do a in-depth review and put it through it's paces
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Getting mine tomorrow! CAN'T WAIT!!
Matrix One Unstable
I got mine yesterday. Was able to load the Play Store and some apps. However, after some use, it decided to randomly reboot. I performed a Factory Data reset and just got it connected to the internet, started up Skype, made a Skype video call connection and it rebooted after a few minutes. Think I have a hardware problem? Seems the network connection is unstable.
Also, where is development for this going to land? What should I be browsing on XDA?
Thanks!
I'm having problems too after more use. It seems to overheat and freeze, especially when charging. If I fully charge then use unplugged, it's OK but when on while charging, it hangs.
Secondly, it really only has 384MB RAM available, which is tight. I was getting a lot of freezing while using. I went into Developer options and restricted to 3-4 background processes and it solved that problem but it's still relatively sluggish.
This feels more like a prototype device. Is OK if you want to use for e-reading, streaming music or occasional browsing but don't expect full tablet experience.
I got mine today and after minimal use here are my comments:
My unit is labeled as the Matrix One and looks like the picture on the website. With that being said, it does not match the specs, mostly in my favor. 1. It has 1GB RAM, 2. It came shipped with 16GB and three it seems to only have a 1GHz processor.
I find the unit to be lagging with the responsiveness when I press the screen.
It gets a little warm but not anything to mention.
The webcam is real nice and the picture is very clear.
The website says "Micro USB" when in reality it is "Mini USB".
The one thing that does bug me a bit is that not all the apps are compatible with this tablet. It is running Android 4.0.3 so most should be compatible and I am not sure why it is not.
Over all I have no real impression yet but I also keep in mind that it was only $60.
^Nice, they apparently just shipped the wrong item.
I'm disappointed that it comes with mini usb when the specs say micro usb. But even more disappointing is it can't be charged via USB. It needs a wall charger.
I had low expectations of the display but in some ways I like it better than my Nexus 7, which has a glossy reflection. The touch screen isn't as responsive but is not bad when adjusting to it.
I spoke with tech support and they said they were getting rid of inventory and it was a crap shoot as to whether or not you got an S branded one which is what they gave me.
they also said this was an MID A10 compatible device and there are some CM10 build out there which would work on this.
I am trying to track those down now.
Just got mine today. First thing I can say is don't put the free case on the white one. It has already put black marks across the back of mine that don't wipe off.
Downloading and installing apps is pretty slow. It does get quite warm, but no locking up yet. The wifi connection doesn't seem all that stable.
But for $60, my kids can beat it all to hell and spare my phones and other tablets.
I wouldn't be opposed to buying one of their higher end products.
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The battery is also draining really fast. After about an hour the battery has gone from 71% to 38%.
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sushiguy732 said:
I got mine today and after minimal use here are my comments:
My unit is labeled as the Matrix One and looks like the picture on the website. With that being said, it does not match the specs, mostly in my favor. 1. It has 1GB RAM, 2. It came shipped with 16GB and three it seems to only have a 1GHz processor.
I find the unit to be lagging with the responsiveness when I press the screen.
It gets a little warm but not anything to mention.
The webcam is real nice and the picture is very clear.
The website says "Micro USB" when in reality it is "Mini USB".
The one thing that does bug me a bit is that not all the apps are compatible with this tablet. It is running Android 4.0.3 so most should be compatible and I am not sure why it is not.
Over all I have no real impression yet but I also keep in mind that it was only $60.
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I'm having problems too after more use. It seems to overheat and freeze, especially when charging. If I fully charge then use unplugged, it's OK but when on while charging, it hangs.
Secondly, it really only has 384MB RAM available, which is tight. I was getting a lot of freezing while using. I went into Developer options and restricted to 3-4 background processes and it solved that problem but it's still relatively sluggish.
This feels more like a prototype device. Is OK if you want to use for e-reading, streaming music or occasional browsing but don't expect full tablet experience.
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You can clear up alot of the lag by bumping up the memory settings with apps like rom toolbox or autokiller
swapper is another good app for it, a swap file really helps with the lack of memory
Really had to start tweaking things to get it running smoothly, changed the cpu governor, upped the memory levels, and changed to holo launcher for the home screen.
One issue I have is mine reboots when I try raising the cpu speed above 1152mhz even though the max is supposed to be 1.5ghz, it's set at 1008mhz by default. Though with my settings it all of butter right now
Edit: So mine froze up while watching a video online, rebooted it and it said the encryption was corrupted and it had to factory reset
I never turned on the encryption
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I spoke with tech support and they said they were getting rid of inventory and it was a crap shoot as to whether or not you got an S branded one which is what they gave me.
they also said this was an MID A10 compatible device and there are some CM10 build out there which would work on this.
I am trying to track those down now.
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I found this searching around http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821398 maybe it will work.
mijoja said:
I found this searching around http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821398 maybe it will work.
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I'm willing to try. Will Clockwork install directly from ROM Manager?
I'm tempted to buy the 16GB...but really prefering the one with cellular on it.
I think I maybe doing a lot of recording. Some told me not to get the 16GB since there is no ext SD on this so I must get 32GB. I don't know a $100 more for 16GB?
I wonder if we can get by the lack of space issue just by using Google Drive, Dropbox and Microsoft Skydrive on the 16GB?
Which version are you going to get?
16GB, 32GB, wait for something more later?
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Are apps on tablet much bigger size than phone version? Or they are the same exact size?
What are some of you guys reasons for needing the 32GB?
16GB. I used to have a 8GB Nexus 7, which worked fine up until Google's mass 5-day sale a little while back. I only have enough money currently for a 16GB Nexus 10, and I think 16GB should do fine. Chances are I'll end up wiping the tablet before I even use the full storage anyway
16g ordered yesterday
Don't need 4g cuz I can just tether my phone
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16GB. I used to have a 8GB Nexus 7, which worked fine up until Google's mass 5-day sale a little while back. I only have enough money currently for a 16GB Nexus 10, and I think 16GB should do fine. Chances are I'll end up wiping the tablet before I even use the full storage anyway
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Nexus 7 only has 1.9MB camera...so that maybe why you don't fill it much? I think once we have Front and Back camera recording at 1080p, I'm worry 16GB may fill up fast for me
I ordered the 16GB... the 32 isn't worth the extra $100 considering I can use my portable 1TB hard drive ($79) and an OTG cable ($3) and get a better deal. Is 4G really necessary? Most of use already have 4G phones and chances are that since you're on these forums you're rooted and have the ability to tether for free.
Here's the hard drive I have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136996
You don't need external power to use it... It's like a bigger thumb drive which at 2.5" isn't very big at all.
andrix10 said:
16g ordered yesterday
Don't need 4g cuz I can just tether my phone
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Whenever I tether via CM10 Android AP, it drained phone battery fast. By the time I get to the final destination, phone already low on batt and can barely use phone for anything else. So I was thinking had I have a tablet that has cellular, I can just swap in the sim to the tablet to handle gps navigation while on trip and when I get near the place, i just put the sim back in to the phone so I can use it right away without low battery issue.
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I ordered the 16GB... the 32 isn't worth the extra $100 considering I can use my portable 1TB hard drive ($79) and an OTG cable ($3) and get a better deal. Is 4G really necessary? Most of use already have 4G phones and chances are that since you're on these forums you're rooted and have the ability to tether for free.
Here's the hard drive I have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136996
You don't need external power to use it... It's like a bigger thumb drive which at 2.5" isn't very big at all.
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Yea, it seems $100 more is waste for me also.
Thanks for mentioning of OTG cable. Based on your response and googling, OTG is some cable (like this http://www.amazon.com/T-Flash-Adapt...=1353034131&sr=1-2&keywords=microusb+otg)that I can hook up between the tablet and external drive to expand the tablet's drive capacity right?
kobesabi said:
Yea, it seems $100 more is waste for me also.
Thanks for mentioning of OTG cable. Based on your response and googling, OTG is some cable (like this http://www.amazon.com/T-Flash-Adapt...=1353034131&sr=1-2&keywords=microusb+otg)that I can hook up between the tablet and external drive to expand the tablet's drive capacity right?
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Yes sir, you are correct. You can connect other devices too.
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Whenever I tether via CM10 Android AP, it drained phone battery fast. By the time I get to the final destination, phone already low on batt and can barely use phone for anything else. So I was thinking had I have a tablet that has cellular, I can just swap in the sim to the tablet to handle gps navigation while on trip and when I get near the place, i just put the sim back in to the phone so I can use it right away without low battery issue.
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I may be wrong, but i believe the only time your maps would need an internet connection is when you're first creating the route and if you need to reroute. So you could just tether until you have your route made on your tablet and then turn it off. Maps should preload everything needed. Couldn't you just plug in the phone?
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Yes sir, you are correct. You can connect other devices too.
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I may be wrong, but i believe the only time your maps would need an internet connection is when you're first creating the route and if you need to reroute. So you could just tether until you have your route made on your tablet and then turn it off. Maps should preload everything needed. Couldn't you just plug in the phone?
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Yea, I guess I can do that...it might be a little inconvenience stopping the car and turn it on tethering so I can get my navigation to handle detour.
Thanks for the tip. I think I will ordered the 16GB as your solution would work for my concern on diskspace and battery draining.
I'm going to enable Google Maps Offline feature on there and download all the maps it allowed me. I'll put Sygic on there as backup to handle situation where Google maps is not available in Yellowstone Park deadspot area.
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Yea, I guess I can do that...it might be a little inconvenience stopping the car and turn it on tethering so I can get my navigation to handle detour.
Thanks for the tip. I think I will ordered the 16GB as your solution would work for my concern on diskspace and battery draining.
I'm going to enable Google Maps Offline feature on there and download all the maps it allowed me. I'll put Sygic on there as backup to handle situation where Google maps is not available in Yellowstone Park deadspot area.
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Not sure why you'd need live GPS in Yellowstone, it's really hard to get lost there on pavement.
16$ more is not worth 100$ at all. I can live with 16Gb and the dongly USB OTG...
Dang 16GB already sold out. I should have grab it this morning.
Update: Stock is available again...so just got it a few min ago
rookiegenius said:
16$ more is not worth 100$ at all. I can live with 16Gb and the dongly USB OTG...
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What's worse is that it's actually more than $100 if you consider higher tax.
Croak said:
Not sure why you'd need live GPS in Yellowstone, it's really hard to get lost there on pavement.
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That was just one of the location where I"m going...but along the way, I'll be going across several places where they might have bad traffic and possible detour where I need the live traffic and to showoff the iPad person in the car.
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Dang 16GB already sold out. I should have grab it this morning.
Update: Stock is available again...so just got it a few min ago
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I ordered a 16GB from Google Store yesterday although I wanted a 32GB. I found the pre order sale at Staples and ordered a 32GB from them this morning. I know it won't arrive until Christmas. I was thinking of returning the 16GB within its return period but Google will refund only to Google Wallet account and I don't know if I can ever use the balance in Google wallet. I guess I screwed myself. Anyone in my situation???
I would rather have the built-in memory. I got the 32GB model ... I wish they offered a 64GB.
I look at it like this , loading your drive to the hilt is murder on ya memory. 16gig seems good to me !!!
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My 16 GB came in yesterday, yea 32 would've been nice but for $100 I don't need it. My S3 has all the music I need on it and I've got no problems moving videos back and forth if I need em.
$100 at this point really is steep for me, for something I really have no need of..16gb is already a luxury for me. I do prefer the 32gb that's for sure but I don't think I can justify it. I may just wait till the price drops. I am not even sure if ill like the bigger model. I love the 7 because of its size. Its perfect.
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Warrior1975 said:
$100 at this point really is steep for me, for something I really have no need of..16gb is already a luxury for me. I do prefer the 32gb that's for sure but I don't think I can justify it.... I am not even sure if ill like the bigger model. I love the 7 because of its size. Its perfect.
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Yea, I prefer 32GB too until someone suggested the OTG cable as mitigation to me plus I'm not sure I need the full size either. I can't wait for another 4 months to see some new stuff at CES 2013 and this poll shows there are many 16GB users so I don't feel so bad and join the bandwagon to buy the 16GB. Even though the 32GB was sold out first, but this poll shows there are more 16GB users...so maybe Google had fewer 32GB in inventories than 16GB to start with. The 32GB ppl will probably have to wait a little longer?
Hey everyone, I've encountered a little nuisance with my HTC One.
Under Storage the phone claims around 7GB is in use under "Other". However, when I plug the device into my computer via USB, I can't find any directories that are taking up this amount of space using Windows Explorer or Android Commander, which lets me down into the root of the filesystem.
FYI, I have Nova Launcher active as my primary UI, so I'm not even using Sense 5 at the moment. I know that 7GB can't just be Sense 5 + Built-in apps.
Anyone else seeing this and know what it is?
It actually probably is just Sense 5 and the AT&T bloat apps. Apparently Android along with the manufacturer's skins are pretty large now. Then add AT&T's useless apps that literally no one uses and you have 7gbs of storage being consumed. This is one of the reasons I'm going with the 64gb.
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its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
cachookaman said:
its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
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Wow, that's crap. What exactly is that being used for? There's no way 16gbs of space is reasonable at all.
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That's asinine that it reserves that much storage... Completely inexcusable when you factor in the lack of an SD card. Epic fail.
I think HTC realized that since they are releasing the Chinese version WITH microSD support... >_<
At least they aren't pulling the crap they used to - like with the Inspire - saying it had 4GB of storage but then formatting it for speed, dropping it to 2GB and leaving 1.3GB or so to the end user...
Still what the hell would they reserve a quarter of the storage for?!
im guessing the extra 9 GB that are part of my "other" are the SD card data for some of the apps i have installed. but it still seems excessive.
Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
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Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
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It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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jtc276 said:
It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
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Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
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Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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jtc276 said:
Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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jtc276 said:
Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Camera, screen, speakers, CPU......
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spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Ok. Take in mind that this is from someone who was dead set on getting the S4 only a week ago. I also want to add that my non-tech-savvy iPhone-using mother was with me at the AT&T store while I was comparing phones and also agreed that the One is better.
1. The screen is smaller on the One but it has better color reproduction and, when playing the trailer for 'Star Trek Into Darkness' on both devices, produced clearer results.
2. The One's software is much more optimized and runs smoother than that on the S4. In my half an hour of constant use with both devices, the One maybe had three instances of minor lag while the S4 produced lag (sometimes major lag) every few seconds. The S4's lag was most prominent when multitasking, hitting the back button, or going home. Switching between home screens produced some stuttering but was not terrible.
3. Speaking of software, the "features" on the S4 aren't that great. Probably the most difficult thing about using the S4 was trying out the Smart features. Many of them were pretty useless such as scrolling through web pages with hand gestures. However, it did actually work and work pretty well. I also really liked having the ability to answer the phone by waving in front of the phone and seeing some general information displayed on the phone after waving my hand in front of it while it was sleeping. But that's about as useful as it gets. I could never get Eye Tracking to work. Some kid beside me finally did after nearly a minute and a half of working with it which completely defeats the purpose of using it in the first place. None of the other features really worked well either making me wonder why Samsung decided to add them to the device and bog it down in the first place.
4. Build materials are pretty bland on the S4. I'm not going to criticize them for using plastic because plastic is durable enough, but I am going to criticize them for not really differentiating the phone from the S3 in terms of look. I was, however, impressed with how they implemented the 5" screen into such a compact and usable package, but that's about it. The S4 is no looker. My mom was also not a fan of the design, thinking at first that the hyper glazed finish was some sort of case and not the actual design.
5. Sound quality through the headphones was good on both devices but better on the One due to its added amplifier. The S4 had definitely improved over the S3 and maintained a pretty loud volume. The One was slightly louder and produced more dynamic results with great highs and lows. The average person would be happy with the sound quality from either, though.
6. The general Android apps such as Texting and Email are hardly changed on the S4. For some users, this will be fine. But, personally, I hate the stock Android Messaging app. I have a Nexus 4 and have used GoSMS since the day I purchased it. I don't understand why anyone would want to view a multiple picture MMS like a slideshow instead of each photo separately. Thankfully, the One does exactly that and has a rather perfect Messaging app. Of course, you can always download GoSMS or Handcent or something from the Play store, but the fact that this won't be necessary on the One is nice.
7. This is picky, but I really liked the One's keyboard. Like, a lot. I've been a stock Android keyboard user since ICS and I didn't think that choice would change with the purchase of any new phone. But the keyboard on the One is nice. Really nice. I almost never made mistakes on the keyboard when using it. On the S4, I couldn't stop making mistakes. If you're just going to use SwiftKey or the stock Android keyboard, this probably isn't a huge deal to you. But I found it shocking that I loved the One's keyboard.
So, yeah. This is a huge post but those are my honest opinions. I was as subjective as I possibly could be and my honest opinion is that the One is the better phone.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
HTC's storage doesn't give the user a run-down of the apps that are classified as Other when you select Other.
If I go to Storage on my Galaxy Note 10.1, and push Other (on the Galaxy Note 10.1, it is classified as Miscellaneous Files), I am given a run-down of the all of the app data that is classified as Other/Miscellaneous.
The Galaxy S3 (which I switched from to get The One) has it's storage implemented in the same way on the stock ROM.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
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Exactly, specifically the /data/data folder.
Whoever said it's the system partition is incorrect.
BTW, when you buy a 32GB device, that means 32GB total NAND storage. On the One it's broken down like this:
/system 1GB
/cache 629MB
/data and /sdcard (share the same partition) 22GB, or 54GB on a 64GB model.
The rest goes to modems (/firmware/mdm and /firmware/q6), secure (/data/secure/data and /mnt/asec), and miscellaneous other partitions (logs, etc.)
Every device on the market is this way, the total NAND space is divided up between a variety of things and the usable /data and /sdcard space is generally 80 to 85% of the total.
It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
HYNK said:
It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
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Yeah, I'm the same only 7gb though. Using TWRP I make a backup on my usb-otg. Wiped everything internal and restored from usb. Worked once or twice, didn't work today though. Probably is just system files.