Hello All,
My girlfriend just got a new Orange SGS2. The phone is great, really slim, fast at playing games, high linpack score etc.
However there is a problem that really bothers me, apps load pretty much instantly however when you press the home button they take ~6 seconds to close!
This happens with even the most basic apps such as the dialler or contacts and is very frustrating as I am sure the SGS2 should be performing better than this. My HTC Desire (and even my old HTC hero to a slightly lesser extent) closes apps pretty much instantly
Hope the gurus of XDA can help with this one.
Many thanks,
hopoffbaby
Okay, the reason your old phone shut them instantly was because it needed to free up resources.
The SGS2 is a far superior phone in terms of spec and as such it doesn't need to shut its apps the moment you hit home.
Android is very capable to say the least when managing its resources so stop watching the task-manager and RAM usage, don't use a task killer and just enjoy life with the SGS2 it'll never struggle.
Mine regularly has 15+ apps running in the background with no noticeable effect on its stunning performance.
Hi,
I think you have misunderstood me. I'm not talking about the kernel killing the apps to free memory, I'm talking about how long it take to return to the home screen after pressing the home (or back) button.
For example, I open the contacts app and it loads instantly. When i click the home button I can count to 6 (slowly) before I am back at the home screen.... It is incredibly annoying and I am sure it is not how Samsung intended??
Thanks again,
hopoffbaby
Should be instant .
You may need to factory reset after backing up data .
jje
Hi,
I was hoping to avoid a factory reset. I have read a few people are having issues (none seem to be as long as 6 seconds though) and that it may be related to the voice control or the touchwiz launcher?
Any thoughts on that?
thanks
Hi,
I toggled the driving mode on and off again and that seems to have go the delay down to around 2 seconds which is a massive improvement, although still not ideal I don't think. What I don't understand however is that the driving mode wasn't on in the first place so why did this make a difference?
Does anyone know what driving mode actually does?
Thanks,
hopoffbaby
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Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
To show you what I mean, I just restarted the phone and killed everything except:
WaveSecure Beta
com.google.android.apps.mapssomething that goes off the screen) - can't kill this
HTC Sense
Touch Input
com.htc.provider
Go back to it 10 minutes later and I also have the following open:
Settings
vizBattery
Wi-Fi Status
Google Mail
Thats without me touching it at all.... if I had also used the Twitter app, Facebook, messaging etc then they would all still be open, the browser and music player would probably be there too.
It's normal fo it to start some apps on its own, for example peep (htc's twitter program) the music player (only if you have a widget on one of the homescreens)
same goes for calander etc etc google mail is push so it has to be opened to recieve messaged realtime.
Things like batterystatus thingy's often drain your battery and sometimes slow down your device I suggest removing that.
Also I don't know about wifi status but can imagine that draining battery to since
I don't think that will be running without your wifi being on. When continuosly searching for networks your device also will slow down, and drain the battery
My english isn't perfect so I hope you understand what I'm saying.
edit: do you use the official t-mobile rom or a custom? Don't know if htc released the last update for t-mob devices. That update really improved almost everything
so if you don't have that it's ''normal'' for the device to lag.
Some apps register themselves to start automatically. Obviously Gmail needs to run if you're syncing a Gmail account.
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
However, for the most part, it doesn't really matter since many of the apps that appear to be "running" will not be consuming any CPU time (and by extension battery life) unless they are designed to run in the background.
In addition, as Stafflover has already said, I'd also suggest you try removing vizBattery - whilst I've no specific experience with this app, I've heard that many battery status widgets drain the battery significantly.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
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AutoStarts does the same job, also paid. using it for weeks, works great.
programs starting up
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
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Hey Pal! I had the same problem then I got into a bit of app development and understood. Some service need to be "broadcasting" and some other to be "listening". Best you can do is sometimes tell them how often to "wake up and check". But if you think about it, a program MUST be checking on a few things, at least sometimes, to give you the "android experience". Also, no matter how much you care about that number you see in the "free ram" widget (assunming you use taskiller with the widget), it is not very important until it REALLY does slow your phone down. Some apps are worse than others at clogging up or draining your battery: try them, weigh how useful they really are for you and then decide what to keep (running) Ciao!
OKay, so this is my first android phone, coming from an Iphone 4 and let me tell you im about 80% disappointed.
Here are some problems im having, im hoping that you can help me turn that 80 into a 20.
1. Apps just randomly run in the background: I'll close all but my live background, my task manager and my alarm clock and go to sleep. When I wake up almost EVERY SINGLE app I have is running in the background. Why? How do I stop this, the Iphone never did this, I feel this is a hard fail on androids part.
2. Many apps force close while im trying to use them: Ive tried stock rom, and serenity 8, same apps same issues. Its becoming a turn off to use the phone for any apps.
3. Multitasking: Is there any? MOST of the time when I switch apps and "multitask" its just like having the app open at the start page, I dont have to reload the app but its not where I last left it like the Iphone. Even on web pages I find if I switch out of the web and go to another app if I return to the web im back at my home page and I have to go to my history just to get back where I was. Is there a way for me to fix this?
4: Ram usage: when I turn my phone off, then on I see 150 in the used ram. This number raises even with out opening any apps. I kill all apps and close all running programs I see nothing running except services and it raises as high as 600 mb with 0 apps open and nothing running except a live background and the task manager. My iphone never had a memory leak, how do I fix this? 600 mb to do nothing is a bit excessive.
As a software developer im really confused as how Google tricked everyone that android was good. Perhaps Im just uninformed and that is why I am here. I am wondering why there would be all these problems right out of the box on an item that is what 4th 5th generation? These are problems that shouldnt be as frequent in 1st and 2nd generations. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
1. this question has been asked a million times. In short, the Android OS handles memory much different than you'd expect. An app will appear as running after you close it but it may not be. Android just keeps that memory allocated to that app in case you need to use it again. But if the OS needs that memory for something else, it will release it from that app and use it for something else.
2. what apps FC on you?
3. i'll leave this for someone else to explain because I dont use the browser much so I dont have much experience with that.
4. this goes along with my answer for #1. Android OS likes to have its memory allocated but it doesnt mean those apps are running.
I might be a little off on my explanation so I'll leave it to the experts to clarify but i'm pretty sure i'm fairly accurate.
1/4 - Not deficiencies, Android is designed that way. If an app is resident in memory, it is more readily accessible. Some badly written apps DO more than just sit there in the task list - but most are OK. Sitting in memory is not bad - holding a wakelock or showing up in your battery usage is.
2 - No clue - not having this problem here. I haven't seen an FC in a few weeks, and the last one was my own fault. What apps?
3) This depends on the app. However, usually the browser returns to wherever I last was when I use it. In fact I wish it were easier to "go home"...
3) Matter of using the right button. Close the app with the home button, and restart it where it left off. Back out of the app with the back button, and start over.
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
i really dont know what to tell you about the FC's because none of those FC on me ... whether I was stock or not. That just doesnt sound right. If you're stock, it shouldn't be FC'ing at all. I can understand if you're rooted and running S8 or some other ROM. Maybe something happened during the flash but stock should be fine.
I'm also trying out the browser on my phone and if I load a random website, go home, open another app and go back to the browser, its still on the last page I viewed.
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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If you're swithing from app to app, and want to do it more quickly, hold the home button for a few seconds (pretty much anywhere, no need to go 'home' first). It will open up a list of the last 6 apps you've used. Pretty sure from the point you left off.
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
Chase
email
Gmail
maps
market
netflix
web
I'm running Serendipity 8.1 and do not have any problems with these apps from your list. You may need to re-flash.
Edit: what Entropy said.
DKS1282 said:
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
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any of them are good but I personally use UnNamed. You really should wipe your phone first. Thats probably why you have so many FC's. When you flash a new rom, make sure you do NOT restore system apps via Titanium Backup (if thats what you use).
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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i think thats exactly what happened because having that many FC's is not normal .
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
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Lot of user error here. I'm on the stock ROM with root.
Switch apps quickly by holding home.
If you use the back button to exit an app then you truly are exiting the app. Use home if you want it to start running.
Don't worry about ram usage. This device has 1GB and Android manages it very well without you ever having to worry.
I never have force closes unless it's the developers issue. If you're running from backed up apps then you can expect to have FCs. Install from fresh if you try a new ROM.
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I think the main reason the op is having his browser reset most of the time is because the op is using some kind if task killer. This task killer is also probably the cause of a significant portion of the fc's being experienced.
There should be a forum rule against people who run task killers then complain about fc's, laggy apps, and problems with multitasking.
I mean it should be obvious running a "task killer" on a device designed specifically to multitask - it is so silly. Look at the two phrases side by side "task killer" "multitasking device" - can you see what I mean.
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dayv said:
To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
Just because you don't know how to use a device does not make the device a general fail. Let's put the blame where it belongs, on the guy who has no understanding on what is going on with the processes in the device and drawing conclusions on based on an obviously ignorant perception those observations.
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I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Not that I know of. There are little tricks like that and a good majority of people would never know of them I'm afraid.
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jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Samsung has a tips and tricks page specifically for the AT&T GS2 that may show you some things you didn't know. One thing I didn't know was that you can take a screenshot with stock by pressing the power button and the home button at the same time. I also didn't know you can access the clipboard to show everything you "copied" from text fields.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-galaxy-s-ii-at-t-
As far as the OP's issues, I have all of those apps except for chase and hootsuite installed on stock and I don't FC at all. For the browser concerns, you may just be opening a new window each time you run the browser from the app icon. Try zooming all the way out of the page and then pinch to zoom out once more and it will show you the windows you have open, or you can press the menu key and select windows. The icon for "windows" in the menu will have a number on it if you have more than one open.
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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Number 1... I didnt do that. I didnt think I had to off of a stock rom, but your right, I should have.
Thread cleaned... Please do not make me have to do so again. This forum is for friendly discussion.. Lets keep it that way.
edit --- I see Devine madcat is pushing back to topic
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I bought the HTC One S and it is my first android device.
I am very confused how multitasking actually works and how to close apps. For example I am playing a game then I press the multitasking button to select the webbrowser. Well if I immediately switch back to the game again, it will resume where I left it. But if I wait a little bit longer and then switch back, it will automatically start the app from new. I lose all my progress. This happens so often and I am think this is not multitasking at all.
Also when I swipe to close an in multitasking mode, it just doesn't close the app. For example I am using navigation but then I don't need it anymore. I press the multitasking button, swipe up to close the up. And then I noticed it isn't closed at all but there is no app for it when I enter multitasking mode. I'd have to actually open the app and manually close the app from inside to actually make it quit.
Am I using android wrong or is this just it?
I believe that is the way how android works. When you switch between apps or press the home screen they will minimize and stay in the RAM memory. While in the RAM memory apps will use very litte recourse. This way you can switch between apps quickly because they don't close. Those apps don't need to start up again. If you've got some apps in RAM and you'll launch a app that needs more RAM then there is available, android will close some background apps to make room for a new app.
I hope this is clear to you?
I don't think that is the reason. I got 1gig of RAM and I barely have any apps open and yet it still starts from new after some time.
And why doesn't it close my apps when I swipe up to remove them from the list of multitasking. I am running sense 4.0, ICS 4.0.3
I don't have ics yet on my phone, though I have been reading a lot about its more effective multitasking. But one thing I know for sure: sometimes it depends on how the app you have suspended works, that is how it is written and how it is designed to behave once suspended.
It's not all related to android's multitasking. For example, I have experienced in android 2.3.7 that some games, once suspended, can be recalled even 1 hour later as if no time had last. I don't exactly know how it can work, but that's what I saw.
ruudheurkens said:
I believe that is the way how android works...
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Yep, that's correct. That behaviour has to do with the life cycle of an Activity.
Well if this is how it works then I don't see how this can be called a pro for android. Then in my opinion ios has a much better multitasking system.
It instantly resumes where I left off and it instantly closes an app for good.
Not at all. In Ios apps (but for music and some other stuff I don't remember) once suspended aren't running any longer. Their current state is saved somehow, so that people have the illusion it is an actual multitasking, but it is not. That's not because Apple people are stupid (they're obviously as smart as at Google's) but it is a different approach which can't be compared to the one of android.
Among mobile system (but for maemo/meego and maybe webos) androids multitasking is the most similar to the one or your pc but I agree that it could be even better.
Yeah I am experiencing the same thing in my HTC EVO 3D. Here is my experiment.
An iPhone 4, and an HTC EVO 3D. I restarted both phones and opened Asphalt 7 on both. Opened the main menu screen on both phones and closed it with the home button on both iPhone and EVO. Now, opened Chrome on both phones and entered google.com. Searched blabity blabity bla and opened a new tab but didnt do anything. Then, went back to Asphalt 7 on both phones using iPhones multitasking bar (or whatever its called) and EVO 3D's recent apps list with long pressing the home button.
Result: Strangely iPhone wins as it continues where it left off, and sadly my lovely EVO 3D loses, opening the application from the begining.
Hell I tried to fail the iPhone but no, it always continues where I left off. I opened GTA3, opened Chrome, opened Asphalt 7, switched back and forth, everything continued from where I left off.
I searched this but it seems like its HTC's doing. People are having no issues with their non HTC phones about multitasking, but ONE X users are really complaining about this. Here, take a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-x-multitasking-problem-apps-killed-off-86498/
However, if Sense 4 users are having this issue, I really dont know why I'm having this issue with my EVO 3D as its Sense 3.6. Maybe this "aggresive memory management" is also there on Sense 3.6. I bought this phone when it came out a year ago and it was running Sense 3.0 and Android Gingerbread, I cant really be sure but I think it wasn't this aggresive back then.
Does anybody know if this issue can be overcomed by rooting the device? If so which ROMS have a feature like this?
cetindk said:
Yeah I am experiencing the same thing in my HTC EVO 3D. Here is my experiment.
An iPhone 4, and an HTC EVO 3D. I restarted both phones and opened Asphalt 7 on both. Opened the main menu screen on both phones and closed it with the home button on both iPhone and EVO. Now, opened Chrome on both phones and entered google.com. Searched blabity blabity bla and opened a new tab but didnt do anything. Then, went back to Asphalt 7 on both phones using iPhones multitasking bar (or whatever its called) and EVO 3D's recent apps list with long pressing the home button.
Result: Strangely iPhone wins as it continues where it left off, and sadly my lovely EVO 3D loses, opening the application from the begining.
Hell I tried to fail the iPhone but no, it always continues where I left off. I opened GTA3, opened Chrome, opened Asphalt 7, switched back and forth, everything continued from where I left off.
I searched this but it seems like its HTC's doing. People are having no issues with their non HTC phones about multitasking, but ONE X users are really complaining about this. Here, take a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646409
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-x-multitasking-problem-apps-killed-off-86498/
However, if Sense 4 users are having this issue, I really dont know why I'm having this issue with my EVO 3D as its Sense 3.6. Maybe this "aggresive memory management" is also there on Sense 3.6. I bought this phone when it came out a year ago and it was running Sense 3.0 and Android Gingerbread, I cant really be sure but I think it wasn't this aggresive back then.
Does anybody know if this issue can be overcomed by rooting the device? If so which ROMS have a feature like this?
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I rooted the phone and downloaded ROM Toolbox from Google Play. Under Performance there is Auto Memory Manager. I never touched any of the settings, just set "Mild" from presets and checked Apply on Boot box. Now the "aggresive memory management" thing is gone and tried Asphalt 7, closed it, opened Chrome, checked mails, surfed about 10-15 minutes, closed chrome, text a friend, then returned to Asphalt long pressing the home button and the game starts from where I left off.
TL,DR: Rooting is a great thing if you are unsatisfied with your device and it fixes the multitasking issue with HTC.
wilcoholic said:
I don't think that is the reason. I got 1gig of RAM and I barely have any apps open and yet it still starts from new after some time.
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The number (and size) of apps has nothing to do with RAM usage. I could write you a 1KB app that would use every byte of available RAM. It would be pointless, but I could do it
Games in particular will use more RAM than other apps, so will get shut down more often than other apps when not in use.
Fyi I had already fixed multitasking weeks ago and have just managed to fix it on sense 4.0 and 4.1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Hello Proud GS3 owners,
I have been loving the phone so far. However I have had a couple of problems. Haven't rooted the phone so far. Just so that you know. Also its my first android so forgive me for any noobishness
The problems i have been facing are :
1. When I use FB for sync in accounts and sync it has the option to sync calendar and gallery. However the calendar doesn't sync. I have tried to unsync and resync it and all other basic steps that I could possibly think of but it doesn't help.
2. This is a bit unusual (Given the phones top specs) but sometimes I have noticed that the phone starts lagging specially when its hot after using it at a stretch. I make it a point to keep closing the apps running in the background but it still lags. Its fine after a few minutes when the phone isn't hot anymore or when it has not been used extensively. What am I doing wrong? Also just to add Nova 3 isn't t as smooth as I have seen it in the videos on youtube. Could it be a hardware issue?
3. This is the one which really bugs me the other two are no biggies. My apps keep redrawing/refreshing when i open them after minimizing. So if I have a game that i am playing and I decide to use the stopwatch and browse I minimize the game using the home key not the back key. Start the stopwatch. Start browsing. Then I return back and when I open the browser the page reloads itself. Also stopwatch resets itself completely which is a pain in the rear. I am using the stock browser.
Also have tried resetting the phone back to factory default and took the phone to samsung and I believe they flashed the stock ROM but all the above issues have not been fixed.
Any help would be extremely appreciated
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JeetuGagnani789 said:
Hello Proud GS3 owners,
I have been loving the phone so far. However I have had a couple of problems. Haven't rooted the phone so far. Just so that you know. Also its my first android so forgive me for any noobishness
The problems i have been facing are :
1. When I use FB for sync in accounts and sync it has the option to sync calendar and gallery. However the calendar doesn't sync. I have tried to unsync and resync it and all other basic steps that I could possibly think of but it doesn't help.
2. This is a bit unusual (Given the phones top specs) but sometimes I have noticed that the phone starts lagging specially when its hot after using it at a stretch. I make it a point to keep closing the apps running in the background but it still lags. Its fine after a few minutes when the phone isn't hot anymore or when it has not been used extensively. What am I doing wrong? Also just to add Nova 3 isn't t as smooth as I have seen it in the videos on youtube. Could it be a hardware issue?
3. This is the one which really bugs me the other two are no biggies. My apps keep redrawing/refreshing when i open them after minimizing. So if I have a game that i am playing and I decide to use the stopwatch and browse I minimize the game using the home key not the back key. Start the stopwatch. Start browsing. Then I return back and when I open the browser the page reloads itself. Also stopwatch resets itself completely which is a pain in the rear. I am using the stock browser.
Also have tried resetting the phone back to factory default and took the phone to samsung and I believe they flashed the stock ROM but all the above issues have not been fixed.
Any help would be extremely appreciated
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3rd one is bad software optimization, there is a fix in the development section for Samsung JB based roms, it will let you multitask 7+ apps.
Second problem, you say the phone is hot when it happens? maybe the CPU got hot too and is throttling down, are you sure powersaving mode is off?
First problem, Facebook for android was really bad, it started improving but facebook developers are dumb, try third party apps like friendcaster.
I agree the facebook app isn't great. However it concerns me when my friend who has the same version of GS3 can get his calendar to sync without using any 3rd party app and I cannot. But I will give a 3rd party app a shot.
I will be searching for the thread you mentioned and try to tweak the settings and see how it goes
I am not really sure what can be done as far as the second issue is concerned. Also as I mentioned earlier I hate it when I play a top notch game like NOVA 3 but it isn't as smooth as expected. Other games like fifa 12, Dead trigger hold up fine.
Thanks for the suggestions though
[Edit] : Yes I do make sure power saving is off as I am aware it slows down the CPU and there is a considerable lag specially when scrolling pages on the home screen or the app drawer which I do not like. It does improve the battery life to a certain extent but I cannot complain if I get a battery life of around 10-12 hours which includes 3 hours of screen time with pretty heavy usage while having the power saving mode off
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Anyone else having same issues? Any other fix/suggestions?
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I have been running CyanogenMod 10 Alpha 2 by dragonzkiller for a couple of days now and can say...my phone has never been better! As is expected there were some hiccups, but overall this thing rides smooth! What does everyone else think about it and what has been their experiences?
Here is what I've found so far
Not working:
Facebook
Dolphin Browser
SMS does not show text in field, and notifications do not show.
My workarounds:
Opera browser has so far worked flawlessly.
Friendcaster works fine in place of FB.
Combination of Handcent SMS and SMS popups as workaround to native SMS issue.
Weird things yet to be worked out or around:
File explorers (so far ES and File Expert) randomly will not delete or rename files.
And again, this ROM is great (thank you dragonzkiller!). Too bad providers didn't push for Jelly Bean on these models because I think it works the best so far. Older in the cycle, so I understand. I still have about of week of testing before I praise it any further, but so far I am mega happy. I can say this having tried various other ROMS throughout the year or so I've owned this phone, and of those I am coming from what I consider a rock stable ROM, Liberty3.
Introduction:
I have been using CM10 for a month and a half now. My review is based on the standard of an every day driver. I understand that Dragonzkiller is the only developer for this ROM and basically for DX2 (as far as I know) but I use my phone with the intention of USING it. With this in mind, I've been struggling with the idea of reverting back to the stock OS or some other rom because of some key issues I have with the current alpha release.
Pros:
Status Bar brightness control: Although you have to disable auto brightness, this is the biggest plus for me, mainly because auto brightness never seems to be good enough. Its always slighty too dim or too bright, even with custom brightness levels. The negative of this would be that if you have a passworded lock screen (swype lock screens don't affect this) the status bar is not click able so you can't increase brightness. This is a big issue if your screen is on the lowest brightness and you need to unlock your phone in the sun. This is mostly for taste. I find this feature highly convenient and puts control in my hands. Although automatic brightness works, it doesn't work well enough for me.
Toggle buttons in the notification pull down menu: This is insanely convenient. This coupled with the long pressing option to open the corresponding settings menu is also one of the biggest things keeping me with CM 10
Swypable notifications: You have no idea how convenient this is until you have it. To be able to pick and chose which notifications to dismiss with the swype of a finger.
Screen Shot and restart option in the power menu: I restart and screen shot enough that these options need to be in the power menu or somehow accessible
Everything else ICS and CM10 provides: I really dislike how Ginger Bread looks. It just doesn't have the nice clean feel. CM10 gets it right with the minimalistic look and design while adding features hidden where they should be hidden. Honestly, this is a HUGE plus. I really like the way CM10 looks and feels over almost every other ROM. I haven't found one that I've liked more than CM10.
Cons:
Most apps that use some form of a web view crash: A web view is a little window that renders webpages for you. Apps like Facebook use to use this and they crashed all the time. Exceptions include the stock web browser and most other web browsers. The reason for this crash is that there is a fatal Out Of Memory exception.
Google Now takes way longer to load: Yes, I already said that apps take a while to load but Google Now seems to take 5 seconds MINIMUM up to 10 seconds. I don't know why. I tried disabling the "Say Google to search" feature as well as the cards and that seems to have cut down on the load time but if Google Now is something you really want/need, this is a huge drawback.
Apps take a long time to load: Long is a subjective term so I'm defining it as between 1 second to just initialize to 3-5 seconds on a bad day. I am very sure this is because our phone has very little ram so the OS has to free some space for the new app and this is an intensive process that take that much time. At first, I pushed this off as some issue that doesn't really need attention but when you are trying to add a contact and it takes 5 seconds to load the Phone app, then another five seconds to load the People app, you're going to start being annoyed. Want to take a picture of your contact, add another 5 seconds to load the camera app.
The flashlight button in the notification pull down will crash: It will crash. You tap the button and it crashes. You long press and it crashes. Don't even bother. That's a big enough con for me to give it a mention and put it in the middle of my list. There have been a few times when I've needed a flashlight only to realize I need to actually open an app for it. I think the next best thing is to put the flashlight app in the swype to unlock menu.
Media Player stutters under load: Remember how I told you that app loading is an intensive process? Apparently, the thread priority for the media player process is lower than the app loading process. I say this based on the fact that as I play music from Pandora, if I press back, switch apps, or open a new app, the music from Pandora starts cutting and stuttering almost like a buffer, but not quite. I have not tried this with other music players but I have done it with another youtube player and I get the same problems. I haven't tried this with Google Music though so you may have some luck with that.
System Crashes: Rarely will my phone reboot on me for some strange reason. It has happened to me maybe 5 times in the last month and a half but it has happened. I don't really consider this a con just because it's so rare but it happens.
Google Maps Street View Crashes all the time: I believe this is related to the problem with Google Chrome. I remember reading that our kernel doesn't support certain drawing textures or drawing APIs so any app that tries to use those methods force close without warning.
Here are the apps I run and why:
Facebook Bookmark: I have a bookmark to facebook.com instead of using the facebook app mainly because the app USED to crash very frequently in the alpha one release (it used to use webviews instead of native code). I haven't noticed it crashing on me recently so I may switch back to using the stock Facebook App.
Go SMS: Simply because I like the look and feel of Go SMS better. It's really your choice on this one. I also like the popup notification when I receive messages that Go SMS provides over the one that the stock Messaging app provides.
K9-Mail: The stock E-Mail app crashed very frequently on me in the alpha one release. I could never figure this one out because it would crash even without the web views open. It may be fixed now but I've gotten used to K9-Mail
Stock Browser: Most other browsers clutter the screen (like Opera). I don't run firefox because I tried the beta release and it was very lacking. Google Chrome crashes all the time because of the kernel issue. I really enjoy using the stock browser with the "Quick Control" feature enabled under "Labs" in the stock Browser app. It cleans up the screen really well.
aCalendar: The widget is better. Plain and simple. I use day view for the widget. I use the widget on it's own home screen.
gTasks: Just something to use. I mostly use the widget on it's own home screen full sized
Conclusion:
Although I cannot recommend this ROM as an every day driver, I have to say that it does provide some serious features with some serious drawbacks. It is really up to you in my opinion because even I cannot decide whether it is a good or a bad ROM. The reason why I would flash a ROM is because I want to increase usability and to clean up my cluttered OS. However, minimalistic ROMs don't provide the features that CM10 provide. Those features definitely come in handy at times. Moreover, I like the CM10 lock screen way more but that's just taste. The reason why I haven't discarded CM10 already is because I can probably live with the longer load times for apps and the spontaneous crashes. The crashes are either rare enough to not bother me or predictable enough that I can avoid them.
My recommendation would be to try it out and see if you can live with it. If you can live with it, then you should definitely run it because it is by far the best app around. This is a good rom but not good enough for a solid recommendation. However, it is amazing it is still only on Alpha 2 considering how well it works for an alpha.
By the way, if you're coming form CM7/9, definitely jump to CM10. The decrease in force closes is worth the increase in app load time.
randomKID thanks for the awesome breakdown of the pros and cons you've found in this ROM. You still using it?
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It's been 5 days and it's holding quite well except my batteries drain 3 to 4 times as faster. I don't use 3G so it's disabled throughout the day. I'm coming from Gingerbread 4.3.3.
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OxyX said:
It's been 5 days and it's holding quite well except my batteries drain 3 to 4 times as faster. I don't use 3G so it's disabled throughout the day. I'm coming from Gingerbread 4.3.3.
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Gingerbread 4.3.3?
Well I do love CM10. I was getting some great battery life out of it. Wonder if everyone was/is that uses or used it? I had workarounds for just about every bug but one- the camcorder. I had to have a good working camcorder and the Videocam Illusion app was not reliable enough. Why so necessary? A 6 month old little girl that daddy loves to capture every day So I went to Eclipse but was not at all impressed with the battery usage (ROM was fine otherwise). I have now landed back on CM7 which I test drove some months ago. I will go back to CM10 provided there is an update that speaks to the camcorder issue. If not, I will hang out here for awhile most likely :silly:
You should try Eclipse 1.3 as I net 1.5-2 days of light use (phone calls / sms / fb) and it's blazing fast. I just put 2.3 on a few days ago and it's a very solid ROM but the speed isn't like 1.3 thou
PnoT said:
You should try Eclipse 1.3 as I net 1.5-2 days of light use (phone calls / sms / fb) and it's blazing fast. I just put 2.3 on a few days ago and it's a very solid ROM but the speed isn't like 1.3 thou
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I think I'll give that a try
I have serious battery issues running CM10. My battery NEVER lasts a full day on light/moderate use. When I was on CM7, I used to get a day and a half out of moderate use, so I'm a bit upset at that. I still prefer it to CM7 though, mostly because of the layout and the fact that my WiFi doesn't constantly lose connection. But the constantly-crashing apps and battery life have me ready to move on from the phone altogether. :/
Google Nexus 4, I'm on my way...