I received the new Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet the day before I bought my HTC Jetstream. Below are my brief thoughts when comparing the two Tablets.
After using the Thinkpad for a week, it was an easy choice to keep the Jetstream as my tablet of choice.
The overall speed and quickness of the Jetstream vs the Thinkpad is noticeably different. Hands down the Jetstream is faster than the Thinkpad, and it's faster than every other stock tablet I have used. I have read people stating that the 1 GHz Dualcore Tegra is just as fast as the Jetstream's 1.5 GHz Snapdragon. After using these tablets side by side, that is not the case. Over and over, I notice the Jetstream is quicker. I cannot tell you how much quicker, other than it's noticeable. The Jetstream gets a A+ for speed and Power. The Thinkpad gets a B-.
The Pen function of both tablets is noticeably different also. The Thinkpad has a nice notebook application which even recognizes your handwriting, but unfortunately, this application does not work with Evernote. The Thinkpad also does not offer a built in anotation application which is weak. Overall the Thinkpad really lacks for a tablet that includes a pen. The Jetstream on the other hand seems to handle Pen input much better. The notes application always syncs with evernote, so your notes are always available online. You can also write notes on any screen. The Jetstream allows me to open a PDF, and highlight text immediately. The Thinkpad requires a 3rd party application, and I have yet to find a highlight function. Both tablets allow you to use the pen as a pointing device to open and close menus, and navigate. The Thinkpad does have a built in storage area for the Pen which is cool. I feel both tablets could include more pen applications. The Jetstream gets a B+ in this department and the Thinkpad a C-.
The design of both tablets is nice. The Thinkpad has a nice rubbery feel, and feels nice to carry around in the office setting. The Thinkpad is very easy to pick up and go with. You can carry it very easily without a case. The Jetstream has a beautiful design, looks sharp, and is just very well done. Overall I prefer the Thinkpad for the business setting, but the Jetstream for personal use. The Thinkpad gets a A+, the Jetstream an A.
The screens on both these tablets are nice. The Jetstream is comparable to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. The Thinkpad is nice, but it doesn't match up the the Jetstream. Jetstream A, Thinkpad B.
Both tablets come with Honeycomb 3.1 as the OS. The Jetstream includes the Sense interface, which is so well done, it truely completes the Honeycomb experience. I found myself missing the Jetstream while using the Thinkpad. The Thinkpad includes a couple of nice additions over the stock Honeycomb. It includes a customizable quick launch widget, and includes the ability to close open applications when viewing the open application list. The Jetstream gets an A+ for the Sense interface, and the Thinkpad gets a B+.
The Jetstream has the 4g radio, and the Thinkpad is WiFi only with 3g coming in the fall. The Jetstream currently doesn't have a WiFi only option.
Pricing is a big factor when considering these two. The Jetstream has a $699 price tag for a two year commitment, or $849.00 for an off contract price. The Thinkpad comes in 3 different models, and starts at $499.00 without 3g.
The Jetstream is a keeper for me. The Thinkpad went back to the store, but may be a good 2nd choice if price and afordability is a major factor.
Thanks for the review John. For handwritting recognition on Jetstream, you could try WritePad. It's kind of keyboard app so can be used anywhere need text input. It works with capacitive stylus on froyo and GB, i dont know whether it will work with the htc pen. The app is $10, i havent bought yet. Could you please check whether the htc pen works with highlight and free draw annotations in Repligo or ezPDF?
Highlight works with the stock PDF viewer, and also works with Repligo, but the stock works better. I actually did my entire fantasy league draft with the stock PDF view, and highlighted players I selected, and crossed off players others selected. It worked outstanding.
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Thanks for the review John. For handwritting recognition on Jetstream, you could try WritePad. It's kind of keyboard app so can be used anywhere need text input. It works with capacitive stylus on froyo and GB, i dont know whether it will work with the htc pen. The app is $10, i havent bought yet. Could you please check whether the htc pen works with highlight and free draw annotations in Repligo or ezPDF?
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I won't go over describing details of the product, other reviews/unboxings can provide that... only my thoughts after owning it for over 36-hours. This is the Best Buy 16GB WiFi model.
Hardware and Accessories
Great design that feels good in the hand. Although dense, and not as light as some, it did not ever feel heavy in my hands. I usually use it one handed. It always feels fast and responsive.
After owning mainly Apple products the last several years, the quality of the HTC Flyer is as close to A-level as I have seen in a competitor. (It does look like Samsung's new Galaxy Tab molds are just as good if not better.)
Only a power adapter and USB sync cable are included in the box. A simple pocket sized user manual, an HTC warranty, and contact information are included as well. No pen, no case, and no earbuds are in the box. We knew that no pen would be in the box, and the earbuds would have been subpar, but the case would have been really nice to have.
Software
It booted quickly and walked me through linking all of my accounts. Only the Reader application, powered by Kobo needed to be setup separately. I absolutely love HTC Sense. The bundled widgets, themes, wallpapers, sound sets, and application really make the device. If I have to have something wrapped around Android, I pick HTC Sense. Shipping the tablet with a "vanilla" version of Android would have left me wanting more. The third-party applications that were bundled are useful and fill in the gaps nicely. Polaris Office integrates with Notes (powered by Evernote) nicely. They work hand in hand.
Notes is a great app that works well on this tablet, and the syncing with Evernote is a key feature. I haven't tried Timemark yet, and don't see needing it much. I will give it ago at my next staff meeting however, just for fun. HTC Watch works well, although their selection of movies is quite sparse. Since some HTC phones are now Netflix-ready, I am hoping the Flyer will be as well. I tried streaming Amazon On Demand content, but the movies would never load. (I might try updating Flash and see if that helps.) The Reader app supports Kobo purchased/download books. A Kobo account and an Adobe ID is required for using. The pen is not required to highlight content in the Reader app, not any other app for that matter. Friend Stream and the Music applications are cool, and their widgets work well. Mail and Calendar seem to support my work's Exchange account very well. Gmail's application is the standard fair, and get the job done. Maps and Locations work great, with excellent GPS response times and accuracy. Some Market downloaded apps aren't pretty when resized to a 7-inch screen, Pandora for example, but most seemed acceptable. The built in Gallery apps supports the video formats I need it to... MP4 and AVI and the interface/playback is great. However, it won't see the media on my DLNA compatible Buffalo NAS. It sees the NAS, but not the files.
The Pen
In short, it just works OK. Accuracy and pressure response is good, but it seems to take longer to write on the screen that I would like. Definitely try before you by, or be ready to return after trying at home. It would seem better if it was free, or in the $20-40 range. $80 is just too much for something that can only be used in 2-3 applications. I also feel it will take some getting use. Writing on glass is a unique experience. My handwriting looks worse that when using ink on paper.It is nice to mark up documents with the pen, or to draw shapes, maps, and diagrams. But I think typing on the keyboard is so quick and easy, it will be my referred method of note taking. Although a unique accessory, the optional pen is my least favorite aspect of the device. I should probably return it, but I might find uses for it down the road.
Overall
I love the HTC Flyer. I will probably keep it and get enjoyment using it at work, on the road, and from the comfort of my couch.
I sold my iPad earlier this year. I wasn't impressed with the iPad 2. The Nook Color is a great value, but I returned it as although the mods work well, their always seems to be something missing feature wise or with application support.
The two biggest draws (uniqueness) to the HTC Flyer for me that have let me down so far are the pen, and On Live supporting being nonexistent. The other draws of size, build quality, and software integration have all met or exceeded my expectations.
I am slightly concerned that the upcoming Galaxy Tab 8.9" might be the winner of the small tablets. The industrial design and native Honeycomb support could make it the best choice. And the lack of On Live gaming support and the arguable usefulness of HTC Scribe make it look even more appealing. However, I was tired of waiting for a tablet that made me happy. And Honeycomb application and developer support is extremely light. I think HTC Sense is needed to make a tablet this size truly useful.
Hardware = 9
Software = 10
Uniqueness = 3
Overall = 7
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I won't go over describing details of the product, other reviews/unboxings can provide that... only my thoughts after owning it for over 36-hours. This is the Best Buy 16GB WiFi model.
Hardware and Accessories
Great design that feels good in the hand. Although dense, and not as light as some, it did not ever feel heavy in my hands. I usually use it one handed. It always feels fast and responsive.
After owning mainly Apple products the last several years, the quality of the HTC Flyer is as close to A-level as I have seen in a competitor. (It does look like Samsung's new Galaxy Tab molds are just as good if not better.)
Only a power adapter and USB sync cable are included in the box. A simple pocket sized user manual, an HTC warranty, and contact information are included as well. No pen, no case, and no earbuds are in the box. We knew that no pen would be in the box, and the earbuds would have been subpar, but the case would have been really nice to have.
Software
It booted quickly and walked me through linking all of my accounts. Only the Reader application, powered by Kobo needed to be setup separately. I absolutely love HTC Sense. The bundled widgets, themes, wallpapers, sound sets, and application really make the device. If I have to have something wrapped around Android, I pick HTC Sense. Shipping the tablet with a "vanilla" version of Android would have left me wanting more. The third-party applications that were bundled are useful and fill in the gaps nicely. Polaris Office integrates with Notes (powered by Evernote) nicely. They work hand in hand.
Notes is a great app that works well on this tablet, and the syncing with Evernote is a key feature. I haven't tried Timemark yet, and don't see needing it much. I will give it ago at my next staff meeting however, just for fun. HTC Watch works well, although their selection of movies is quite sparse. Since some HTC phones are now Netflix-ready, I am hoping the Flyer will be as well. I tried streaming Amazon On Demand content, but the movies would never load. (I might try updating Flash and see if that helps.) The Reader app supports Kobo purchased/download books. A Kobo account and an Adobe ID is required for using. The pen is not required to highlight content in the Reader app, not any other app for that matter. Friend Stream and the Music applications are cool, and their widgets work well. Mail and Calendar seem to support my work's Exchange account very well. Gmail's application is the standard fair, and get the job done. Maps and Locations work great, with excellent GPS response times and accuracy. Some Market downloaded apps aren't pretty when resized to a 7-inch screen, Pandora for example, but most seemed acceptable. The built in Gallery apps supports the video formats I need it to... MP4 and AVI and the interface/playback is great. However, it won't see the media on my DLNA compatible Buffalo NAS. It sees the NAS, but not the files.
The Pen
In short, it just works OK. Accuracy and pressure response is good, but it seems to take longer to write on the screen that I would like. Definitely try before you by, or be ready to return after trying at home. It would seem better if it was free, or in the $20-40 range. $80 is just too much for something that can only be used in 2-3 applications. I also feel it will take some getting use. Writing on glass is a unique experience. My handwriting looks worse that when using ink on paper.It is nice to mark up documents with the pen, or to draw shapes, maps, and diagrams. But I think typing on the keyboard is so quick and easy, it will be my referred method of note taking. Although a unique accessory, the optional pen is my least favorite aspect of the device. I should probably return it, but I might find uses for it down the road.
Overall
I love the HTC Flyer. I will probably keep it and get enjoyment using it at work, on the road, and from the comfort of my couch.
I sold my iPad earlier this year. I wasn't impressed with the iPad 2. The Nook Color is a great value, but I returned it as although the mods work well, their always seems to be something missing feature wise or with application support.
The two biggest draws (uniqueness) to the HTC Flyer for me that have let me down so far are the pen, and On Live supporting being nonexistent. The other draws of size, build quality, and software integration have all met or exceeded my expectations.
I am slightly concerned that the upcoming Galaxy Tab 8.9" might be the winner of the small tablets. The industrial design and native Honeycomb support could make it the best choice. And the lack of On Live gaming support and the arguable usefulness of HTC Scribe make it look even more appealing. However, I was tired of waiting for a tablet that made me happy. And Honeycomb application and developer support is extremely light. I think HTC Sense is needed to make a tablet this size truly useful.
Hardware = 9
Software = 10
Uniqueness = 3
Overall = 7
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Agreed on most points but HIGHLY disagree on the uniqueness since there are no android tablets released with the same functionality. The scribe pen can be better but other devices have NO pen.
The lack of OnLive support that was once promised really bothered me. And I felt that lack of the pen being bundled, and costing $80 hurts the device. Let alone it not being terribly necessary.
Good review I don't have a problem with the pen being a seperate item. It keeps the.cost down for people who don't need it. The mighty dollar isn't what it use to be.
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The lack of OnLive support that was once promised really bothered me. And I felt that lack of the pen being bundled, and costing $80 hurts the device. Let alone it not being terribly necessary.
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I somewhat agree with both points. Keep the cost low for those who don't want the pen but at the same time its the selling point for the device. To be honest without the pen its just a gtab.
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Agreed on most points but HIGHLY disagree on the uniqueness since there are no android tablets released with the same functionality. The scribe pen can be better but other devices have NO pen.
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I have to agree also. Uniqueness should score a little higher due to the pen. The pen integration seperates this device from all other tabs on the market. It could bring this device into the boardroom. I'm finding that writing on glass is difficult, and hoping a screen protector will help. Unfortunately we may be at the whim of HTC for pen support in apps (they have released the SDKs, but will depend on the popularity of the device). PDF Viewer seem suitable to get around PDF docs. I also like the "livescribe-esque" capabilities of recording and time-syncing meeting notes. Yet to tell if this device will make it into my daily workflow... We'll see in the upcoming week(s). I'm hoping for the best.
I have read a number of articles dissing the new HTC Flyer base upon it's relatively diminutive size at 7 inches compared to the 10.1 inch competitors.
My only response would be to ask the critics if they have ever tried to hold a 10.1 tablet in one hand while standing and writing with a stylus with the other? Or have they ever tried to hold their tablet in two hands while in portrait mode and type with the keyboard? Or have they ever tried to slip their 10.1 inch tablet into their suit coat pocket?
Right. If I want a 10.1 inch tablet, I will just buy a laptop. If I want a HIGHLY PORTABLE DEVICE which CAPTURES AND NOTATES LIFE ON THE GO, I'll get the Flyer.
The ability to easily grip the Flyer with one hand while navigating, typing or taking notes with the other is not to be underestimated. If you want a tablet just to sit on the coach and surf, get a Transformer, iPad II or any of the other BIG tablets.
Before buying a tablet, ask yourself, what is this really for? What do I want to do withe this that I cannot do with a laptop or netbook? I think if you answer yourself honestly, you will find yourself leaning toward the Flyer.
P.S., Is the Flyer perfect? No, there are a number of things I would change, but what it does, it does well.
No checkerboards when surfing!
One of the features I loved about the Flyer was the fact that I never got any checkerboards on my browser when scrolling quickly. Every other tablet I checked out had terrible checkerboarding.
Also, when you pinch to zoom on the Flyer, text resolves itself immediately. Every other tablet lagged badly before text was crisp again.
I agree with you whole heartedly, it is pathetic the number of reviews where the start of it is about the size. I have a 10" netbook, I don't need another device that is the same size. I can slip this into my back pocket and go on about my business, and no need to carry bag or anything
Whatever though, haters gonna hate I love mine and nobody else is going to change my mind
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Another thing I like is I can type in landscape too and reach all the keys with just my thumbs while holding the tab. Can't do that with a 10".
A huge problem with 10" tabs is that you cannot thumb type. If you want portability the flyer is the best. If you want to browse at home stick to the laptop.
Both tablets seem to have the same hardware and the only difference I can really find between the two is that the Xoom runs stock 3.1 out of the box and the Tab runs Touchwiz on top of 3.1 and that the tab is a bit thinner than the Xoom.
That being said, if you had to choose again, would you get the Tab again or would you switch to the Xoom or another tablet and why?
I am looking to get one of these tablets so I greatly appreciate any useful input.
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Both tablets seem to have the same hardware and the only difference I can really find between the two is that the Xoom runs stock 3.1 out of the box and the Tab runs Touchwiz on top of 3.1 and that the tab is a bit thinner than the Xoom.
That being said, if you had to choose again, would you get the Tab again or would you switch to the Xoom or another tablet and why?
I am looking to get one of these tablets so I greatly appreciate any useful input.
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I am extremely happy having my Tab and would not change it if I had the choice again.
People say light weight and thin is their reason, andthe light weight is one of my biggest reasons. I'm still working on my undergrad and take the train to campus every day. Carrying my laptop (for a semester) then netbook with my books was a heavy load to carry every day, the Tab and an external keyboard has completely replaced those electronics.
The screen is another reason. When I am taking the train, a lot of times I am streaming videos from my server or stored on the Tab. The quality of the screen is far better than the xoom (even though the comparison was in the store).
I am a big fan of Touchwiz. I use the mini app tray all the time to take extra notes while working on something. If I am working on something while in class, I can pop up the mini tray to use memo to make the extra notes and then memo syncs to my google docs.
As the above said, weight is the most important issue when using a tab. In most cases, you will use one hand to hold the tab and the other hand for scrolling, gesturing and so on. Xoom is too heavy for one hand use
I had the Xoom when it first came out. My biggest complaint was the AWFUL screen. It's also a lot heavier and thicker than the Galaxy tab, and the edges are very sharp which meant one hand holding was painful.
The only positive thing it has going for it is stock Honeycomb and it gets the updates before any other tablet. I'm not a fan of touchwiz and prefer stock honeycomb. We'll have to live with honeycomb 3.1 until the ICS source is released and a developer turns it into a ROM. But the Xoom will most likely get ICS right away directly from google or Motorola.
Had the Xoom (and a few other tabs) before settling on the GT10. Consider how you'll be using your tab: If it will be propped up on a desk or if you'll be holding it. You won't want to hold the Xoom. This is what made my decision to sell the xoom (and the iconia, and the dell streak, and the chinatab).
The other thing to consider is whether the ports are important to you. Of course, there are adapters for all of these things, but they're expensive and hard to find. HDMI: important only if you want to output presentations, or if you're in a hotel room and the TV has an HDMI input (and you really don't want to watch your movie on the 10" screen). USB: if you need it. I do all transfers wirelessly (wifi file transfer pro), so the only advantage would be USBhost for thumb drives (external HDDs don't generally work with the xoom). MicroSD: For me, 16gb is enough; I use dropbox, google music, and netflix, so I really don't use much space. You can use the USB adapter to give you access to external flash storage, so there's your workaround.
prefer xoom
maybe i'm more a heavyweight champ now , but I decided for the xoom.
My biggest reason was: I can put in a microSD card.
Now I can watch my foto's from my camera directly on the xoom,
without having to use other devices and adapters.
Is there a way to do handwriting on the 10.1? I picked one up for our QC department and it'd be very hand if they could handwrite notes on their documents.
EDIT: Will be using Polaris office unless there is something better.
yes you can, there's a whole thread about pens on the accesorie section, with an app you can add to adjust the sensitivity.
Excellent, thanks for the heads up.
I highly recommend FreeNote. It is one of the few apps I have found that works the best for me.
Even though I think the tab is the best tablet on the market right now, the one thing its not very good at is handwriting. Even with the sensitivity app it's not as good as the transformer or the (sorry) ipad. It's a hardware problem; the handwriting lags behind the stylus, and it doesn't have palm recognition (so if you touch anything to the screen, it registers as a touch). If this was your purpose in getting the GT10.1 (and this is the only reason I'd say this); I'd suggest returning it for the transformer (original, I don't know anything about the prime).
Screen sizes are not significantly different (especially after the lost pixels due to the Honey bar), IMO, plus the Note will get ICS in the near future. Also, having experienced with both Wacom and N-trig digitizers, I generally favor Wacom (which is what the Note has). Of course there is a huge price difference between these two at this time, but the Note is also a phone right out of the box (unlocked version is about $650, and AT&T version with two year plan is $300).
So what do you think? Worth shelling out the extra money for the Note? Or remain faithful to the Flyer/View?
Get both! Its what I'm doing! BTW If you get a new two year contract you can take another $100 off the Note price, link through retailmenot
I guess it depends on whether you actually use the stylus for writing BC if you do, I think that the apparently small screen difference will probably be quite apparent. I've never tried out the note, so I could be wrong....but looking at the engadget review writing sample, it looks like I may be correct.
I use the stylus quite a bit. Honestly, for serious inking/annotating for professional purposes (I am a college professor), anything less than a 10-inch screen just looks too small to me, so I use my ThinkPad Tablet. For lighter inking/note-taking, the Flyer is better, also because it is significantly less bulky than the TPT. In this regard, I think the Galaxy Note may be a good substitute.
I'm intrigued by the idea of having both. But personally still on the fence about whether the Note is too big to be practical as a phone.
On a side note, I think its ironic that the stylus is coming back to smartphones (LG is copying the idea also). Everyone was all like "its so cool that the iPhone came out and you don't need the stupid stylus to poke the screen". Now people are realizing that they have some really useful and cool applications, and never should have gotten rid of them. Sure the stylus concept is updated, but the basic idea is the same.
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I'm intrigued by the idea of having both. But personally still on the fence about whether the Note is too big to be practical as a phone.
On a side note, I think its ironic that the stylus is coming back to smartphones (LG is copying the idea also). Everyone was all like "its so cool that the iPhone came out and you don't need the stupid stylus to poke the screen". Now people are realizing that they have some really useful and cool applications, and never should have gotten rid of them. Sure the stylus concept is updated, but the basic idea is the same.
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Yeah, I used to try so hard not to have to use the stylus on my Windows Mobile phones. Now I am like, huh...really...styluses are cool now.
Since I haven't touched either yet I don't have much to add. But I was just debating this before I recently ordered the Flyer. With the Note around $600 (no contracts for me) and the flyer at $200 it was just easier to take a chance on the Flyer. If the Note fails at taking notes then what did I just buy? If the Flyer fails my kids get a new toy. And I am hoping to do more writing than I think I'd want to do on 5".
The review of the Note on The Verge says that the Note has the better pen then the Flyer, accuracy etc. fwiw.
ive only had my note for two days, and i havent used the stylus much yet, but if im making a call id peg the flyer pen as more accurate
Pressure sensitive stylus are useful. The plastic stick palm pilots had allowed poor ui choices
I've been using both. The Note has far better accuracy in writing than the Flyer in my opinion. In addition, the ability to zoom in in portrait mode is much better for fine details. I still can't understand why the Flyer doesn't have this.
That being said, the Flyer's Evernote integration is still hands-down better. The fact that it seamlessly integrates with meetings and reminders as well as automatically syncs with Evernote makes it a lot easier to move between devices with. Also, having the erase button on the stylus is really convenient.
In the end, I'll probably end up replacing my Flyer with the Note just because the Note is a lot more convenient and I only have to carry around one device, but there are still some nice features to the Flyer that you can't find on the Note. Hopefully, Samsung can replicate some of the great functionality HTC worked into the Flyer.
I did take some comparison shots in case anyone was looking at it from a size standpoint. You can find them on my Google album -https://plus.google.com/photos/101248606811583627981/albums/5711273582828842705
Wow, those are great comparison shots. Thank you so much for posting them. I am receiving my Note tomorrow to replace my trusty old Nexus One. I am really pumped-up now!
I have both the Note and the Evo View. I use the Note as my main driver and a phone. My Evo View is used for times I need bigger screen to watch movies or surf the net or play games... I guess I can do all those on my Note but I baby my Note so it doesn't get abuse while my View gets toss around. My kids watch videos on the go on it. It's nice to have the 7" screen for kids to play on as well so that they don't touch my Note.
I do like the pen input better on the View since it's got a bigger screen to draw on and ink as well as better intergration of selecting options for the pen. As far as accuracy and lag... I think they are pretty similar... slight lag and okay accuracy.
Oh..and battery on the View last a lot longer since I have it in airplane mode and wifi on only. It last about a week with about 6 to 7 hour screen on time. During standby.. it only drops about 1% in 24 hours.
If I had to choose just only one device, then it would be the Note though since it can do everything that the View can do. But it is also a lot more expensive as well. My Note was $500 more than the View unless you get the Note on contract then it's only about $100 difference then. But if you just want a tablet with stylus input ability, then I would get the Flyer/View while they are on clearance.
I just tried the Note yesterday and here are my impressions:
1) TAKING NOTES: C-
The thing that struck me the most odd about the Note is that they call it the "Note" and yet have engineered it in such a way as actually taking "notes" on it is almost impossible.
If you are like me and like to rest your fat old palm on the screen as you are writing, the Note simply will not work for you. I assumed that the Engineers at Samsung would have done something clever like disabling the hard buttons at the bottom of the screen anytime the s-pen was within an inch of the screen. But no, they didn't. If you attempt to write notes and your palm hits the hard buttons at the bottom, literally all hell will break loose on the screen. You simply cannot take notes. It is impossible. With the View, after a while you sort of get the hang of resting your palm on the screen in such a way to not trigger the keyboard or menus, but with the Note this is simply not possible.
One HUGE benefit of using the View to take notes is the ability of the pen to quickly highlight typed text. I LOVE this. The s-pen on the Note does not have this ability (that I could tell anyway).
Horrible, horrible implementation by Samsung.
2) SPEED: B
The thing is slow. This REALLY shocked me given the specs but there is no way the Note I tried was nearly as quick as my View. When I scrolled webpages I even saw the dreaded checkerboard pattern occasionally. I was shocked.
3) FORM FACTOR: A+
The size is nice and it's light and thin. I use a bluetooth headset anyway so would never be holding it up to my face and looking like a dork.
Conclusion:
Overall nice device but needs some serious software tweaks to be a contender.
P.S., Guess, what? The Sprint Rep told me that he heard from TPTB that Sprint will be getting the Note this summer.
Did you try the Unlocked International version? Or the AT&T version?
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Did you try the Unlocked International version? Or the AT&T version?
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AT&T Version.
I have both the note and flyer. I use the two Devices interchangeably.
Aside from the clicks noise the pen makes on the flyer screen, it's pen is still better IMO. it has eraser on it - v convenient. Taking screenshots is more straightforward. When. Taking notes, u can just continue to write, page extends to accommodate writing. On the Note however, u must open up a new page after first is full. you must also save the first full page separately...as separate document. Being able to just continue writing on the Flyer is an advantage for note-taking at meetings. But, you need somewhere to put your pen, on the flyer, there's no stylus slot option..
Screen and camera - in some respects is leaps and bounds ahead on Note; brighter images. Although, flyer is still v good for brightened. Flyers have advantage though with regard to current quality control. In snore forums you will notice several concerns about pixilated dark images on stills and videos. Also, concerns about artifacts on some Note screens - visible on dark grey backgrounds.
Calendar - Note has more functionality and pen can be used to arrange calendar appointments - I don't think this can be done on flyer.
Seven screens on Note vs 5 on Honeycombed HTC flyer. However, the note will never be able to touch the Flyer for screen transition animation and weather animation. If you like your bling, it's got to be the flyer, no competition.
Battery...I have been finding the note battery much much better than my flyer battery. With note on low to moderate use, I can go for 2 days. With the flyer, it's only a day. Difference is really apparent when upping use to moderate.
They are both good in own ways. If u can get flyer dirt cheap, buy it alongside the note. If not, stick with Note. Note wins as it easily works as multifunction device. But Flyer is more of a Web-surfing, video and brief note device. Even for the 32GB 3g flyer, phone functionality is difficult (pls correct me if I've got this wrong - as I have wifi-only Flyer but have read moans on 3g threads). So if phone accessibility and quality is important, go for Note. But of you're floored by minor quality control flaws, go for the HTC.
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whmcal said:
But Flyer is more of a Web-surfing, video and brief note device
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I've had my note for a couple of days, and the above review is pretty much spot on. I'd like to also add that the Note, despite its size, still feels like a phone, with additional note-taking capabilities and a nice screen. The Flyer, on the other hand, feels more like a small tablet (which is exactly what it is!)
Since I had them both, I would prefer using view than note. I bought note when it first released in my town. And I became so frustated after several days using it due to its form factor isn't note taking friendly. So I gave my note to my wife, and I bought the view. and yes, I am very satisfied with the view.