I was wondering about the possibilities of a chrome os replacing webtop on our photons. Since it is Linux based like webtop, could it be possible to relayed ubuntop with chrome os?(see ubuntop forum for elaboration) Either way I was just thinking it would be perfect since there's Eucharistic simple GUI for the os.
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I can't believe I didn't see this post til now, sorry. Your question is very valid and deserves an answer.
ChromeOS and Moto's Webtop are, at their core, a web based OS (think cloud computing) in functionality. Granted, ChromeOS would be much smaller and faster than Moto's Webtop but still has all the failings of cloud computing. Cloud (ChromeOS, Webtop and so on) are based on the premise that you will ALWAYS have a working internet connection. We (the world) all know that this is rarely ever that case. So the premise is flawed from the start. Let's look at a real world scenario.
You need to write a report for school or work and are using Cloud (ChromeOS, Webtop and so on). While working on the report your internet connection goes down. It's a cellular outage/ internet provider outage and you do not have an alternative connection. The webpages you have open are still there but with cloud you can no longer continue to write that report. Your document creation/editing is somewhere on that, now inaccessible, internet. I, on the other hand, am running a stand alone OS (webtop+/ubuntop). Like you, my webpages are still open but I can also continue to work on that report due to me not being tied to the internet for document creation/editing.
The argument could be made that you could always use an Android office suite to continue working which is true. Try doing any real document work in android, it's a real pain in the ass. I know, as almost all things related to the Evo Desktop PC project was done in android.
Lokifish Marz said:
I can't believe I didn't see this post til now, sorry. Your question is very valid and deserves an answer.
ChromeOS and Moto's Webtop are, at their core, a web based OS (think cloud computing) in functionality. Granted, ChromeOS would be much smaller and faster than Moto's Webtop but still has all the failings of cloud computing. Cloud (ChromeOS, Webtop and so on) are based on the premise that you will ALWAYS have a working internet connection. We (the world) all know that this is rarely ever that case. So the premise is flawed from the start. Let's look at a real world scenario.
You need to write a report for school or work and are using Cloud (ChromeOS, Webtop and so on). While working on the report your internet connection goes down. It's a cellular outage/ internet provider outage and you do not have an alternative connection. The webpages you have open are still there but with cloud you can no longer continue to write that report. Your document creation/editing is somewhere on that, now inaccessible, internet. I, on the other hand, am running a stand alone OS (webtop+/ubuntop). Like you, my webpages are still open but I can also continue to work on that report due to me not being tied to the internet for document creation/editing.
The argument could be made that you could always use an Android office suite to continue working which is true. Try doing any real document work in android, it's a real pain in the ass. I know, as almost all things related to the Evo Desktop PC project was done in android.
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Sorry to resurrect this. All of the above being said, would it be difficult to use the most current version of chromium OS for web top?
elessarelfstar said:
Sorry to resurrect this. All of the above being said, would it be difficult to use the most current version of chromium OS for web top?
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Even the latest Chrome OS is still mainly a cloud based system. For what programs that do have standalone functions they still fall short of what UbunTop offers. For example, GIMP and OpenOffice are long term "standards compliant" programs and supported on multiple platforms. ChromeOS also offers far less in the way of software choices when compared to UbunTop which can run most ARM compiled programs based on Debian.
The other factor that now has to be considered is the removal of Webtop support by Motorola. Support for Webtop and webtop replacements will disappear with the ICS update on all webtop enabled phones leaving the users with Android based tablet mirroring mode. Even if you were to replace Webtop with the latest ChromeOS, it will no longer function as soon as you move to ICS. In short Webtop OR ICS, can't have both. The same applies to ChromeOS as well.
Projects, like Ubuntu Installer, that use disk images and VNC will still function on ICS. The draw back to this is that you loose audio support and external device support like flashdrives. Another issue is how VNC interacts with the disk image. There is also the issue that using disk images on the Atrix and Photon have very limited support. A specific Kernel/ROM combination has to be used to even get it to function.
Hello XDA Developers!
tl;dr I need either a solid, light OS replacement for Android 2.3 on my Atrix, or I need a video streaming and virtualization app with no lag that works between android devices and either windows or linux desktop.
First I'd like to say how impressed I am with you folks. Massive amounts of work most be done on a regular basis, and so I tip my hat to you in thanks for looking at my potential problem/question.
I've got two devices that I'd like to make some serious software changes to, one of them my Atrix (the other is a Flytouch Tablet ARM11 with Android 2.3, but that's for a different forum). Let me start by saying that I like to think of myself as very technically literate, but when it comes to linux I just don't have nearly as much experience as I do with windows/mac, and it is about to really show.
What I want to do is load a light Linux OS on these devices. Normally, if I was going to install a new windows kernel on a machine I would copy an ISO to a USB thumb drive and make the drive bootable (using the MS program Windows 7 USB/DVD maker), then startup the PC and either through the BIOS or by hitting the proper button during the startup sequence I would ask the PC to boot into the drive and begin the installation.
Questions:
What is the image file type for mobile OS's?
How would one choose the right type of linux OS for an Atrix?
What is the difference between flashing a ROM and installing and OS?
Why is it when I updated my phone recently that it became unrooted?
(and) Is there any way to revert this process to make rooting easier?
Is there any way to capture a video output (like a stream) and broadcast it to these mobile devices so I can avoid changing their software alltogether?
(and) Could I just remotely control another PC from the mobile device, letting it do all the actual computing?
Can I use the Webtop Dock as a monitor for my desktop if I can find the proper HDMI cable to connect it to the HDMI output on my desktop video card?
(and) Can I also connect the Micro USB and use the keyboard/mouse (hooked into my desktop motherboard) on it as well?
(and finally) Can I use my Atrix as a prototype omni-tool by docking it in a docking station, attaching various tools that work with a linux operating system (wide-spectrum ultrasound imaging, temperature monitors, vital monitors, electronic laser saw (USB) (with separate power attachment of course) and extendable, movable USB cameras?) and then strapping it onto my wrist with a cool leather bracer design?
My end-goal is to have all three of these devices on the same network, with the ability to seamlessly access my data between them. For example, if I'm working on a document, I'd like to be able to access the document in a document editing program across all the platforms (imagine google docs with multiple users) however with one MAJOR stipulation: I'll be on a local network with NO INTERNET ACCESS!
Briefly (to better help you understand just what I'm trying to do) I am a freelance archaeologist/deep sea explorer/ROV tinkerer about to do a series of surveys mostly by myself in some VERY remote locations. I'll have a Wi-Fi network to link all of my devices together running out of my boat, but it's only for data sharing between each other, and since Satellite Internet is a joke, I can't think of any way to get data out there, and I've decided to live without it while I'm away.
I have a webtop dock for my Atrix, and the environment developed by Motorola is far too restrictive. I've tried countless fixes to try and get the webtop2SD to work, but I must be doing something wrong (Maybe the latest update screwed it?). I think since I'd like to use some linux applications while on the mobile devices, I would rather install a custom OS for both.
OR (preffered)
Even more simply, I'd like to stream the video feed and remotely control my desktop PC (located on the boat) on the mobile devices, but with yet another stipulation: I can't have FPS lag (I usually get 1-2 FPS with all the virtualization and remote control apps I've tried). This would in some senses be the preferred option, since I really don't want to spend oodles of hours trying to get some program to work in a difficult, restricted environment like these mobile device's current OS's. Is there a good, non-lagging version of desktop virtualization for Android OS?
About that webdock: I can't seem to find a female-to-female micro HDMI cable anywhere on the internet, thought I did find one Micro HDMI extension cable, and bought it promptly. I could buy another, but cut the male ends off and splice the female parts together (**** just got kinky). But if I could, would this work?
Phew that was a lot! Again thanks so much for thinking for me!
I've personally never found any kind of remote desktop software that works without lag, but it might be possible to find some. Someone else might know what to tell you there.
After doing some basic searching, the only collaborative document solution that I've found has been Etherpad Lite. You could set up a desktop or laptop running linux as the server, and all the other devices on your small network could (theoretically) run a browser based client similar (but far less advanced) than Google Docs. This way, everything on your LAN/WLAN could access the application, if it's stout enough to support your needs.
https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collab...Real-time_collaborative_text_editing_software
Everything you're looking for just seems to be limited for Android, I wish you the best of luck.
I have always found Teamviewer great for remote PC control from my Atrix. They have a nice app and free license for home/personal use. I get minimal lag controlling my PC at home when at work, but that's over WiFi. Not very fast and pretty laggy if I am on data with my Atrix.
BTW............I can work on documents, transfer files to and from PC's and laptops, print documents on my wireless printer, etc. across my home network from my Atrix, all routed through a Netgear WNR3500L running stock firmware (dd-wrt actually slowed my network down and reduced WiFi range considerably, so I reverted to stock).
First, there is no "magic" within the lapdock device. It is a nice HDMI screen, a couple crappy input devices on the USB side, and a battery. The standard Moto software does recognise the usb device and do some software magic, but certainly you could use the dock on it's own w/o the phone.
As to completely replacing the /osh webtop OS that Motorola provides, that is challanging.
There are 2 basic ways to open it up though. Go to the developers subforum and look for webtop2sd and "full Debian".
Somebody did post recently with an attempt to fully replace the webtop OS. he was using gentoo, so look for that and you should find it. But I suspect it is early, and likely to be a significant WP.
As to learning all this ****. If you do some Linux developement or heavy hacking (which it kind of sounds like) you should set up a full full blown 'droid dev platform and start playing. It is big and bulky, but you will learn faster that way than just searbhing around.
EDIT: just reread your post that you are light on Linux. if you want to do anything more than just follow along, it might be a good idea to setup something like an Ubuntu and get familiar there. 'Droid is way different looking (it really basterdises things around) but yoiu need to know both if you want to play with webtop hacks.
Thanks all. I'll look around again to see if I can find the threads you mentioned. I've tried Webtop2SD but to no success so far.
Thanks again.
Hello, everyone!
If you aren't an expert - that's okay. Everyone is welcome and you're free to ask questions.
Make sure to check the date this post was updated (I may forget to update the date in the title) which is located at the bottom of this post. If this post hasn't been updated in more than a month, contact me and I'll refresh everything.
Quick Introduction:
I'm new to the Yoga Book squad, and I've noticed one major downside.... the forums are a total mess. So what I'm hoping to do, is to keep this thread as up-to-date as possible, with links to guides, development progress and anything else.
I figure to make this more... tidy, I will enforce a colour-coding system for each sub-thread-guide-thingy, so you can instantly tell whether a guide or method to do something to your Yoga Book is risky, and most likely experimental, or is well tested. These will probably be done via experiments on my own Book (the wifi-only version), but of course I will hope via this community thread I will be able to provide more detailed statistics and such as everyone does their own thing to their device.
If you have anything to add to this thread, or would like to help out with anything; please feel free to contact me or just tell me what you're thinking - I'll do my best to read everyone's replies.
General Yoga Book Information
To my knowledge, there are two versions of the Yoga Book, each with two sub-versions for the OS:
1.) YB1-X9aF - this is the Wi-Fi version
2.) YB1-X9aL - this is the LTE/4G version
Where the "a" between the 9 and the F/L is either a zero or a one, depending on the installed OS (Android: 0, Windows 10: 1)
The SIM card is a Nano-SIM with 3G capability.
Other than that, all Yoga Book devices share the following specifications:
- 10.1 inch IPS display, of resolution 1920x1200
- Intel Atom x5-Z8550 processor, which:
----+ Has an architecture of x86_64
----+ Core base clock of 1.44 gigahertz
----+ Core boost clock of 2.4 gigahertz
----+ 4 cores and 4 threads
- Battery capacity of 8500 milliampere hours
- On-board storage of 64 gigabytes of solid-state storage (SSD)
- 4 gigabytes of random-access memory (RAM)
- A microSD card slot capable of up to 128 gigabytes of storage
- Two camera's, one above the display and one on the keyboard
- Wi-Fi (802.11 ac) and Bluetooth (v4)
- 3.5 millimetre headphone jack
- Micro-USB 2.0 OTG port
- Micro-HDMI port
Colour (or color) Codes and Tags:
For those who like using grey-scale display filters or whom are colour blind, I've added a "level" to each of them, where level 3 is like... crazy meltdown experimentation mode, and 1 is stable-ish (probably as stable as it'll get unless a REAL developer takes on the challenge).
[X] - Means that you will have to delete some or all of your data for it to work
[R] - Means that it requires a Rooted device
[Level 3] VERY EXPERIMENTAL - Use with caution, and with the knowledge that you may boot-loop, brick your device or lose your data!!! OR ALL OF THOSE THINGS!! Make sure to backup everything you hold dear, and just for good measure you'll have something to fallback on.
[Level 2] NOT WELL-TESTED - This will probably work for most people, but things may be unstable at the best of times. Again, make sure you have a backup before trying level 2 items.
[Level 1] 99% FINE - If there's an issue, it's probably your own fault... but again, I can't guarantee that everything I or anyone else does is perfect and will work for everyone! You should probably still have a backup, but if you're lazy like myself it's okay, I forgive you.
Android M/6.0
Rooting, backups, and more!
[1][X] Unlocking the Bootloader
earthCallingAngela wrote a really nice guide for unlocking the bootloader. The original thread is here, but for those who are too lazy to open the link in a new tab I've quoted the information.
IF YOU APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS GO AND THANK THEIR ORIGINAL POST!!!
Remember, unlocking your devices bootloader will format your storage (meaning you'll lose all of your data), so backup anything important before proceeding.
earthCallingAngela's OP: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/how-to-unlock-bootloader-t3502216
I hope this is useful information. It took me a bit to figure it out due to a lot of conflicting information, since the procedure has changed, perhaps several times, since the first version of Android. Also, I'll probably forget myself.
Please note that I've performed these steps on Linux (Specifically Arch Linux). Others have pointed out that if you have issues executing step 7 from Windows, you may need to follow this post.
1. Install Android Studio, or otherwise obtain the latest versions of the adb and fastboot programs. I think Windows users also need to install a USB driver, but I run Linux, so I am not sure about that procedure.
2. Gain access to the developer options on the tablet. Go to the settings, and find the "about tablet" section. Scroll down to the "Software version" section and tap on that several times until it says that you are now a developer. Feel special.
3. Go to the new "Developer options" setting. Select "OEM unlocking." Also, I selected "USB debugging" as a straightforward way to reboot into the boot loader.
4. Connect to the computer on which you've installed adb and fastboot.
5. Type 'adb devices' to see your device listed. The tablet will ask you if you're sure you want to allow the computer access to it. Answer in the affirmative, and save that option.
6. Type 'adb reboot-bootloader' to do just that.
7. After you see the innards of your 'droid, type 'fastboot flashing unlock' . On Linux, you may need root permissions to do this. The tablet will ask you to confirm (select with up/down volume, and accept with the power button), and will then erase all of your data! I didn't worry about this as I'm all on Google services, and so they can be restored easily enough.
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[3] TWRP Custom Recovery
danjac has written a post about his attempt at getting a modified version of TWRP running on his Yoga Book. From what I can tell it was a success, besides a few bugs (which are avoidable... I think).
WARNING! MAKE SURE YOU READ THESE!!
Before you go ahead and just flash his version, make sure you know the consequences that could arise if something goes wrong. If the recovery of your device screws up, you don't really have much to bring it back to life with. Even though there shouldn't be many things to worry about, it's still very risky.
In fact, it is recommended you ONLY temporarily boot into TWRP, instead of just flashing it like you would on another device. danjac's OP gives more information for you to use.
If you think you are willing to take the risk and know what you're doing, I highly suggest you make a complete backup of your device if possible. So far there isn't really a way to get your stock recovery back (since we don't have a custom ROM or a way to download Lenovo's modified version online).
danjac's OP: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/development/recovery-twrp-t3533980
[2] Rooting (via Magisk)
danjac wrote the first guide to rooting the Yoga Book, and you should, again, go and thank his original post. However, his OP is now a bit outdated, Magisk (currently v12.0) now includes a root module (MagiskSU) based on phh's SuperUser.
Please note: If you are already rooted via a different method (and maybe you want to change because it didn't work... or something like that) you have to go into your super-user manager and uninstall it. If you have a previous version of Magisk installed, there is an uninstall ZIP that you can flash, which will remove any Magisk version, including MagiskSU. Again, more details on the main Magisk thread.
Do I NEED to unlock my bootloader to Root my device?
The short answer is yes, and the long answer is sort-of. You only need to unlock your bootloader if your ROM doesn't support Rooting out-of-the-box (which in Lenovo's case, it isn't supported). However, you can lock your bootloader afterwards if it's such a concern to you. Yeah, you probably will stop receiving over-the-air updates from Lenovo, but they're probably not going to push out another update for a long while, so in my opinion it's nothing to worry about.
Follow the instructions on the main Magisk page to install it if you're new to Magisk, but if you know a thing or two then I'll paraphrase:
- Flash the latest Magisk ZIP file via the TWRP Recovery (if you have it) or just flash it over ADB
- You should also download the Magisk Manager from the Play Store to make sure you're always up-to-date
danjac's OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/root-yb1-x90l-how-to-t3534268
Magisk's main thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
[2] Dual-booting Android and Windows 10
Since there isn't a place to get the Android side of things, I won't put too much info here.
Although if you're already running the Android version and want to know how to put Windows 10 on your device too, look at this thread.
Dual-booting OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/help/android-to-windows-hack-dual-boot-option-t3475733
[3][X] Custom ROM
Currently there is no custom ROM which supports the Yoga Book, mainly for the simple fact not many people own the device. However, if we make enough noise in the community I'm sure someone will crack under the pressure ;P
Although, I'm doing my best efforts to merge the device drivers and such into the Android Source code, but you shouldn't get your hopes up. If I ever get it working, it will probably be unstable and not that great (I don't have much experience with the details of the Android OS), I'm running off my knowledge of the Linux OS.
If you're using the Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book (I'm sorry you paid the extra $50!!), hopefully Lenovo will at least release a version of their own ROM soon (or put it back from what I've heard). I've also heard that they're upgrading to Nougat in October (of 2017)... so we've got plenty of time to find another solution to our sorrows.
Information for Developers:
Someone has also posted a backup of their working Lenovo-customised Android OS, but I won't post a link here because:
- It's only a backup
- May draw un-wanted attention to the link
But if you're a developer and you think that will help you, you can easily find it somewhere in these forums.
EDIT: The link has now been removed (I can't find it)
If you're trying to
Code:
repo sync
the AOSP and you're getting stuck syncing the work tree, try doing this (from the folder you're trying to sync to):
Code:
rm -rf frameworks/compile/slang/
mkdir /home/<user>/slang_helper
sudo ln -s /home/<user>/slang_helper frameworks/compile/slang
Please be careful when typing commands into your terminal, especially from the internet, and especially when you don't understand what the commands are doing.
Lenovo's source code download: http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/tablets/yoga-series/yoga-book/za0v/downloads
[2] Linux without removing Android
Thanks to @Tiggi2017 for making the first guide. His OT here is a good one to read through if you're interested in this.
Via a few apps and some commands, you're able to have a "Linux" OS running on your Android device with the Halo Keyboard and such still working perfectly.
His original method doesn't need Root access apparently. However, there are other methods that may be easier for some people if they have a Rooted device. Look through the comments in that thread for more information.
OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/yoga-book-gnuroot-debian-t3580358
Apps, tips and tricks!
[1] Apps That Support Multi-Window
Thanks to sashlon1138 for doing most of the hard work by putting this list together (may not be complete, if you know of more apps that work let me know so I can add them!).
Thanks to uuang for getting the ball rolling.
Thanks to Csilla4 for finding the first calculator app that works.
Thanks to docoli for also finding a huge list of compatible apps.
Csilla4:
- iDo Calculator
uuang:
- RAR
- Google Photos
sashlon1138:
- Chrome (but not beta)
- Facebook
- Messenger (Facebook)
- Gmail
- Outlook
- Youtube
- VLC
- Google Search
- Home
- Instagram
- Pinterest
- Dolphin Browser
- Ebay
- Paypal
- Flow Free
- Google Maps
- Google Earth
- OneNote
- Wikipedia
- ES File Manager
- Twitter
- Evernote
- Reddit
- Skype
- Candy Crush Saga
- Candy Crush Soda
- Candy Crush Jelly
- Spotify
- Soundcloud
- Opera
- Opera Mini
- Yahoo Mail
- Viber Messenger
- MX Player
- Google Translate
- Shazam
- AliExpress
- Tumblr
- Twitch
- Mega
docoli:
- Microsoft Word, Excel and Powerpoint
- Softmaker Textmaker HD, Planmaker HD and Presentations HD
- RealCalc
- Adobe Acrobat
- CamScanner
- MindjetMaps
- LinkedIn
- ezPDF Reader
- Detexify
- HERE WeGo
- Google Street View
- Öffi (German Public Transportation Schedule app)
- DB Navigator (German Railroad Schedule app)
- Kindle
- Amazon Prime Video
- Maxdome
- Barnes & Noble Nook
- Audible
- TuneIn Radio
- TED
- Babbel
- dict.cc. plus
- Amazon
- Nine (you can even have any number of items in parallel on the screen, e.g., inbox, calender, contacts, notes)
- OneDrive
Link to OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/help/multi-window-apps-t3565253/post71494066#post71494066
[2] Changing the DPI
WARNING! Do not change your DPI to extreme values! You may render your device useless (unless you already have set up ADB and know how to revert the changes)!
Thanks to melando for bringing up the actual default DPI values.
Just so you are aware, if you're running Android 7 (Nougat) or later, you can adjust the "DPI" to some preset values from the settings app.
Using this site, I calculated that the Yoga Book has a technical DPI of 224 pixels per inch, with a resolution of 1920 by 1200 pixels, over a 10.1" screen (diagonal). However, the default Lenovo has set it to may be actually 280. They suggest that you may find it better if the DPI is set to 240.
This is a trivial modification if your device is Rooted. All you have to do is open the Play Store, and search for something along the lines of "DPI changer", and find an app that has good reviews.
An example app would be "Easy DPI Changer [Root]"
If your device does not have Root, then you will have to have a computer with ADB installed.
To install ADB, do a quick Google. There's bound to be a guide there somewhere (I'll put one here soon).
Once you have ADB installed, you can follow this easy guide to change your DPI to whatever you like.
DPI Calculator: http://dpi.lv/
Non-Root Method: http://www.androidbeat.com/2015/07/how-to-change-dpi-of-android-device-without-root/
[1] Recommended Apps...?
There isn't anything here as of yet, because I haven't gotten far enough to look for any good apps that work well with the Yoga Book. So right now I'm going to rely on everyone else for that. I'll get there eventually.
However, you should at least download Magisk Manager from the Play Store, to manage your Root and other neato Magisk features.
If you're a developer, and need guinea pigs to test your stuff on, I am happy to help anyway I can (and I'm sure much of the community is too).
If anyone needs help, I'll do my best to assist, but if it's anything too tedious (such as teaching you how TWRP works or something along those lines), you should probably have a look on the internet for tutorials and guides for that stuff. There are plenty of people out there who can explain concepts better than myself.
Windows 10
Simple customisations!
[1] Touch-pad Customiser
This program was first put into the spotlight by dinosauria123, so go to their original post and thank them for finding this.
This small program lets you modify some simple variables associated with your touch pad, only requiring a reboot after you change something.
Features:
- Setting extended right click area
- Setting unlock area
- Setting mouse pointer acceleration
- Setting scroll direction
- Disable Touchpad clicking (added in version 1.4)
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OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/themes/yoga-book-touch-pad-setting-application-t3569836
[1] Minor Halo KB Customisations
If you were wondering if there was a simple and easy way to lower the brightness of the Halo Keyboard, or just get rid of those pesky battery-draining touch vibrations for every key press, there is a way!!
Best of all, you don't have to download it! It's already installed!!
To find this not-so-well-hidden app, you have to either go to your Program Files, or open the good-old Control Panel (thanks to urayandro for pointing out that it's in the Control Panel!).
Control Panel method: Once you're in the Control Panel, just click on "Appearance and Personalisation", and you will find the "Halo Keyboard" program right at the bottom.
Program Files method: For 99.9% of people this is on your Local Drive (C: ). It may be located in your normal Program Files or it may be in your x86 Program Files, I'm assuming it depends on whether you're using the Windows 10 your device originally came with, or you have re-installed it (thanks to sawyerbenjamin for informing me that for them, it was in the normal Program Files folder). Assuming it's in your normal program files; go to Program Files/Lenovo/ and there it is. The application name is "ControlApp.exe". You can also make a shortcut to this application - I put a shortcut on my Desktop.
It allows you to:
- Toggle the touch tone/sound
- Toggle the vibration on keypress
- Adjust the time it takes for the keyboard lights to turn off
- Adjust the backlight (or whatever that is called) brightness for the whole keyboard
Risky or experimental customisations!
[2] Using AMIDuOS (Android Emu)
Update: I've spent a bit of time trying to use this, and in my opinion it's not worth the time. But if you need a development environment for something, it's pretty good at that. :/
In my attempt at replacing my Windows 10 installation with any version of Android I could find, I ran across this program called AMIDuOS. It's similar to emulating an Android system while you're in Windows, but instead of running it in a virtual environment, it runs directly on your x86 hardware (which is what the Yoga Book uses).
If you're cool with having a Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book, but still want to use some Android applications (possibly for drawing, or maybe just because the Android ecosystem is miles better compared to the Windows one) this may be a good solution for you.
Currently, they support Lollipop and Jellybean (not Marshmallow). However, this program is not free. You can trial it for free though. I'm fairly certain the full price is $10 USD.
It's not a difficult thing to set up (apparently), so if you wanna try something out and know how to deal with possible emulation problems (although unlikely) it may be worth it.
AMIDuOS Website: http://www.amiduos.com/
[2] Process Lasso
Huh? Process what-now? Yep, Process Lasso is a very complex program filled to the brim with algorithms tailored mainly towards getting the best performance and responsiveness, and to control those pesky rogue background processes that slow down your device when you don't need them to.
This program is completely free (but it does have a Pro version if you want a few extra customisation's and want to support the developers) and I've found it works pretty well, especially with a low-power device like the Yoga Book.
Since the Yoga Book is meant to be a very portable device, I'm not using Process Lasso to get maximum performance (as that would obviously drain the battery life quickly), I'm using it to make sure that if there's a program that needs to use power and deplete my battery life, then it's something I want - not some dodgy Windows background processes or other stuff like that.
It's pretty easy to set up. I've got a few of the main features enabled, and I recommend that you use similar settings.
I've enabled:
- ProBalance; this will keep the background processes in check, and allow the foreground processes to take the reigns of your CPU, insuring you experience minimal stutters.
- SmartTrim; this is an optional one, since I'm constantly micro-managing the applications I've got installed on my 64GB internal drive, this should help to prolong the performance of my drive, making sure it's well pruned (that's a pretty good analogy actually)
I've turned off the tray-icon showing me the CPU utilisation, so that doesn't need to waste any of my precious battery life (I'm usually a battery-life extremest), but you don't need to do that.
So if you're experiencing major delays when just doing simple things like moving around the Windows 10 user interface due to rogue background processes, I highly recommend you give this program a try.
Also, if you're a pro-ish-user like myself, feel free to dive deeper into the program. It's filled with toggles and adjustable's for you to play with and tailor the program to your needs, and almost everything you can change is accompanied with a tool-tip explaining what it does. Enjoy! But of course, as always, be careful of what you change - there are some things that could make your system really slow and or unstable.
P.S. The Yoga Book uses the 64-bit system, so choose that version of the program.
Website: https://bitsum.com/
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Does anybody know, whether bootloader unlocking is necessary for magisk root?
Con_Sole said:
Does anybody know, whether bootloader unlocking is necessary for magisk root?
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I'm not entirely sure, however flashing something to your device (via TWRP at least) does require an unlocked bootloader. So without an unlocked bootloader, I don't think there's a way to install MagiskSU. Sorry about that... :/
I will have a look around and see what I can find, though.
Con_Sole said:
Does anybody know, whether bootloader unlocking is necessary for magisk root?
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So I've done more looking around and here is your answer: Yyyyeeeeaaaahhhhhh......?
Magisk itself does not require an unlocked bootloader, however, it does require root access. Usually to get root access you need to unlock your bootloader, unless it comes already rooted in a custom ROM (but in our case, it doesn't). Unlocking the bootloader is a relatively safe procedure to perform, so [in my opinion] you shouldn't have anything to worry about!
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[1] Minor Halo KB Customisations
If you were wondering if there was a simple and easy way to lower the brightness of the Halo Keyboard, or just get rid of those pesky battery-draining touch vibrations for every key press, there is a way!!
Best of all, you don't have to download it! It's already installed!!
To find this not-so-well-hidden app, you have to go to your Program Files. For 99.9% of people this is on your Local Drive (C. So to get to it, go to Program Files (x86)/Lenovo/ and there it is. Its very helpful and informative name is ControlApp.exe.
It allows you to:
- Toggle the touch tone/sound
- Toggle the vibration on keypress
- Adjust the time it takes for the keyboard lights to turn off
- Adjust the backlight (or whatever that is called) brightness for the whole keyboard
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it's not not-so-well-hidden app.... it's not hidden at all. you can found it under "appearance and personalization" section of retro control panel.
urayandro said:
it's not not-so-well-hidden app.... it's not hidden at all. you can found it under "appearance and personalization" section of retro control panel.
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Indeed it is! Consider that noted ;P
urayandro said:
it's not not-so-well-hidden app.... it's not hidden at all. you can found it under "appearance and personalization" section of retro control panel.
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I found it in my normal Program Files folder. (x86) only contained a folder for LenovoPaper.
sawyerbenjamin said:
I found it in my normal Program Files folder. (x86) only contained a folder for LenovoPaper.
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Huh, well it must depend on whether you kept the original installation of Windows that came on the device, or whether you reinstalled it (or came from Android). I'll add that information. Thanks!
sawyerbenjamin said:
I found it in my normal Program Files folder. (x86) only contained a folder for LenovoPaper.
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Same here. In my device is also only contain LenovoPaper under \Program Files (x86)\LenovoPaper
What i mean with retro control panel is old window's control panel. not the win10 setting. You can access it by:
1. Click start and type "control panel" then press enter.
2. You should see control panel window that similar to older version of windows.
3. Go to "Appearance and Personalization
4. Under there you should see "HaloKeyboard" shortcut.
You can also create another shortcut of this app by right-clicking it then choose create shortcut. Windows will make another shortcut on the desktop. I did this to get easier access when need to adjust keyboard brightness.
Hey there,
i think there is a way to flash the win 10 image on my yb1-x90f. just don't wont to brick it and so i have a few questions to all of you experts. in other words, i need your help
there is a quide i found in internet, which i think could work. But there are words i've never read before like "RUSB". is this an important word? i attached as low quality pdf...
there is also the win 10 image online. but we have to pay for it because it's "exclusive" stuff. 50$
maybe we can put together, 50/50 so its 25$ for me and you?
i think you know which page is meant. if not pm me
like descriped in the guide, (part 3) we have to select "Boot Menu" and after that "EFI USB Device"
But my bootloader looks different (android version).
is there a way to flash the image via original android bootloader/recovery or do we need to find a way to get into the other bootloader?
in this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/help/bricked-yoga-book-yb1-x90l-t3537048
@mmusaad managed to get into this kind of "mode" but i think its a dangerous way and he had a big luck to "unbrick" his device. maybe onyone find an easy way to go into this "windows bootloader" or whatever?
so maybe we can work togehter
woodirk said:
there is also the win 10 image online. but we have to pay for it because it's "exclusive" stuff. 50$
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Probably wrong translation from Chinese... Should read USB-R. There are USB Ports which don't support remote drives
woodirk said:
there is also the win 10 image online. but we have to pay for it because it's "exclusive" stuff. 50$
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Windows was never free, that's why the Windows Yoga Book is $50 more expensive. A Win-Image will not help you either, as Lenovo brands the Product Key into the Bios.
jamespmi said:
Windows was never free, that's why the Windows Yoga Book is $50 more expensive. A Win-Image will not help you either, as Lenovo brands the Product Key into the Bios.
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OMG sometimes i think "together" :highfive: is a heavy word... :crying:
what about this ? (see attachement)
and stop letting me look like an idiot...
I'm on the YB1-X91F, which is the Windows version. Unfortunately for us, the Android and Windows versions of the Yoga Book have totally different BIOS's. This is the main thing stopping us from being able to dual-boot.
Easy-firmware has both the Android and Windows' ROM's, but they only provide instructions on how to overwrite the current operating system, not the opposite ones. I have downloaded everything they have on the Android side of things, and everything except the Windows ROM on the Windows side.
While I was messing around with my device, I did brick it. But I was able to get an SD-card with a Windows bootable "USB" install on it, and went through the installation process on my external keyboard. Then from there was able to install the drivers and restore the Windows version with everything working after a bit of time. I don't know how different this would be if you don't mind getting rid of the Android bootloader totally, but that's not really recommended.
What we'd need for getting Android alongside the Windows version is a way to get a working Fastboot/ADB connection.
For the Android version getting Windows alongside it, you need a way to get the Android bootloader to point to and recognise the Windows installation. However, this is almost impossible unless you have a custom ROM, which we do not have that supports the Yoga Book. You could probably delete Android totally, and then install Windows from there, but I'm not 100% sure because I haven't messed around with the Android version of the tablet.
We'd need a way to get the Android BIOS and Fastboot off of it so we can then use it to our advantage.
nan0s7 said:
I have downloaded everything they have on the Android side of things, and everything except the Windows ROM on the Windows side.
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that's good to know...
nan0s7 said:
You could probably delete Android totally, and then install Windows from there, but I'm not 100% sure because I haven't messed around with the Android version of the tablet.
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this is exactly what i want to do and where i need your help
imo this will help us https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70540959&postcount=7
woodirk said:
what about this ? (see attachement)
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That probably flashes a valid Serial Number into the Bios...
DPI settings
I believe default DPI may actually be 280 - there's a Lenovo forum thread recommending setting it to 240 which I have found reduces the size of icons etc. so 224 does not seem right
melando said:
I believe default DPI may actually be 280 - there's a Lenovo forum thread recommending setting it to 240 which I have found reduces the size of icons etc. so 224 does not seem right
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Thanks for the information! I've added a bit to the DPI section about the other values.
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Thanks for the information! I've added a bit to the DPI section about the other values.
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However now that the Nougat update is out some adjustments can be made in Display Settings...
melando said:
However now that the Nougat update is out some adjustments can be made in Display Settings...
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Oh yeah forgot that happened (I'm on the Windows version). Fixed it now!