Hi all,
I currently use an iPhone 3G but am looking to buy a CDMA phone to use on page plus. My options are: DX for ~ $150, DX2 for $200, or maybe even Evo 4G for around $160. I'd appreciate any advice regarding which is the best route to go with. Thanks
Evo
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Evo
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D'you think that the Evo's unlocked bootloader trumps the dual core on the DX2? Because the initial overlay in terms of cash isnt that big a deal as its not much different
I'd get the X2, It's pretty fast on a custom rom like eclipse.
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D'you think that the Evo's unlocked bootloader trumps the dual core on the DX2? Because the initial overlay in terms of cash isnt that big a deal as its not much different
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Yes.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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Pretty much. Cm7 and omfgb on my tbolt were a lot more stable and responsive than the dx2 on any rom. Dual core doesn't mean twice the fun.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I'd been leaning towards the X2 because of the processor and the qHD screen, but it seems the majority of you think that the Evo is the way to go. My only other concern would be the battery life I guess
Get evo.
Battery life is a valid concern. I'm on Evo forum EVERY DAY, and I see lots of people claim 24+ hrs battery life. I don't get anywhere near that. I suppose it just comes down to tuning. There is tons of dev support in the Evo forums. Still, after more than a year. There's tons of rom and kernels to choose from.
Evo devs are dropping new ports at an amazing rate. Hell, we're running roms that haven't even been publicly released.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I'd been leaning towards the X2 because of the processor and the qHD screen, but it seems the majority of you think that the Evo is the way to go. My only other concern would be the battery life I guess
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The screen looks nice for still images, but it has a strange and annoying motion blur that I haven't noticed on any of my other phones.
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I'd go with something besides x2...its fast but the camera and screen just suck..i loved my fascinate...miss it dearly ...
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The screen looks nice for still images, but it has a strange and annoying motion blur that I haven't noticed on any of my other phones.
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Thank you for the insight. Thanks everyone. This'll be my first Android phone, and I think I'm going to go with the Evo. I'll get something better when the LTE handsets start coming out
Why not get a Bionic from Amazon?
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Why not get a Bionic from Amazon?
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I dont want to get a phone on contract, and dont really have a need for 4G right now. So basically, I'm looking for a phone to hold me out for maybe a year atleast...
the Droid X2's 540x960 resolution, lack of front facing camera and being a solid 3g phone is what sold me on it. bottom line it's a motorola communication device, and they do what they need to do and take a beating. F HTC and their easily hackable bootloaders. the easiest to hack devices are gonna be the first to get taken out by malware and viruses once they start becoming more prevalent (and they will)
my droid X2 is fast as hell, gets great battery life (compared to what I read from others) and I can modify as much as I need to as it can still be rooted and I'm running the ported Atrix 2.3.4 rom w/ some bloat removed. I don't have any of the problems others complain about with this phone (media playback, sound/video issues)
I've literally tried every hack, script, and rom out there along with a few little tweaks of my own and this is the first android device I've EVER had that I've felt was adequate. I've had more than my fair share of HTC junk, and that's exactly how I feel about that taiwanese crap. so far this X2 has been through hell, I gave up on cases and protectors (cause they don't fit quite right and make the docks impossible to use) and it's got some battle scars from work and play (it even got run over by a K5 blazer while I was 4-wheelin in the colorado rockies) and it just won't die... every HTC I ever had I swear started just failing after being dropped once or twice with the exception of my old 8125, it took full immersion in a pan full of hot engine coolant to finally kill it, and it worked for a good 2 weeks after that happened until the keyboard and touchscreen became basically unresponsive. it's only a matter of time until this device is unlockable (seriously, give me ONE example of SOMETHING out there that runs software and could not be hacked/cracked/exploited in some way)
i'll put it in this perspective, launcher icons in a 5 wide 7 high grid. I can fit EVERYTHING I need on ONE homescreen with no overlap, an 800x480 screen will not do that.
my only complaint about the phone is the camera SUCKS in low light, but it's just a crappy CMOS phone camera with a plastic lens, what do you expect? I've NEVER used a camera phone for any really important pictures anyway. I want my phone to first and foremost be a COMMUNICATION DEVICE and when it comes to solid radio technology, you can NEVER go wrong with anything motorola (so long as it doesn't flip or slide)
but then again, I was born with a keyboard in my hand and an insatiable thirst for knowledge of all things electrical/electonic, mechanical and everything in between.
^^^ jealousy is the worst emotion.
More politics in xda then Washington.
I'd double check getting that evo onto page plus. I couldn't get my thunderbolt on there because of the 4g radio.
With regard to the Droid x2, I've got a real love hate relationship with this thing. It's really picky and takes a ron of fine tuning to get it working fluidly, in my experience. But, in my experience it gives the best photos of any phone I've used. They don't look very good on the screen (pentile is horrible with color banding), but they reproduce really well on other media.
My dinc2, which you should also consider, functions much more reliably without all these freaking scripts with dozens of parameters to tweak. But, the video frame rates can't match those of the dx2, and photos are not as good.
Always boils down to what you need. I'm about ready to throw my dx2 under the next bus that passes by if it stutters on me again.
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Durable? I dropped it once from hip distance and now the screen had a hairline crack in the bottom corner. not sure about being ran over..
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Evo is a Sprint phone. Page plus uses Verizon phones. X2 with tegra doesn't seem to have any advantages besides good video codec support. Nothing amazing optimized for tegra and the single core phones have so much more customization going for them. And all Motorola qhd screens suck. Colors including video look washed out.
Htc's qhd like on sensation use normal rgb lcds vs. The new moto (DROID 3, x2, bionic, photon, ATRIX) using pentile rgbw.
I wouldn't recommend this phone for a few reasons, one of which is tegra has little going for it especially on this phone. Everything is optimized for snapdragon, even if this phone should technically be more powerful.
If u do a lit of music listening from device don't go with x2. Otherwise great phone. Stupid st..ut.ter..s...I..a.mm.g...g ..ettett ...img...tired of music skips ;(
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Title says it all. What do you guys think?
I love my Tbolt, and I love that I got it at a time where I am grandfathered into unlimited data, which I would not have been had I waited for the Bionic.
And what feature are you waiting to get from Bionic that TBolt can't already do?
I bet the Bionic will be more of a pain in the ass to root...will prob have an even more locked down bootloader
Having owned the Atrix... the QHD display is really a deal breaker for me. It was really washed out, couldnt draw the color yellow at all, and was VERY pixelated. Not to mention its an even bigger screen than the Atrix, so it will be worse.
Not a chance id buy it.
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A battery that lasts longer than 5 hours.
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A battery that lasts longer than 5 hours.
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And have you actually tested Bionic so you can confirm this?
On a side note my Bolt lasts me 12+ hours for the last 4 days, my normal use.
I was thinking of waiting, but went for the Thunderbolt. I usually wait a few months before getting a newly released phone, but wanted to make sure I got unlimited data on 4G. Other than the network being a little fickle on 4G, I have no complaints. Development for this phone is moving pretty quickly!
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you have got to be kidding me. that thing is dual core. what in god's name makes anybody believe its battery life will be better? if you know engineering and hardware, you will know that unless motorola has unearthed the elixir of battery life, its simply not physically possible. maybe thats why their battery size is bigger. and by the way, good luck trying to run anything except what verizon and motorola want you to run on that with locked and encrypted bootloaders - keep dreaming about CM7 and MIUI.... finally i had an x for a day - nice hardware but horrrrrrrrendous UI compared to sense. no thanks, its htc for me - tried true and tested
For one i think the dual core is wat is makeing me wait. Anyone think its worth it? Also i think the stock rom on it looks amazing. Just juice defender and im set.
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more cores just mean running more processes at "full" speed at the same time. I don't know about you but I rarely render 3d graphics and run matlab on my phone.
multi core cell phones are just a selling point in my opinion.
My opinion... HTC > Moto. I like HTC's hardware designs better. Love the look and feel of HTC devices.
I also hate Moto for locking down bootloaders like crazy, but it looks like HTC may be joining these ranks soon as well. I cannot deny that Moto has some nice specs on their devices... but the Thunderbolt is no slouch.
My TB gets great battery life running stock. It will be even better with root, custom kernel, and custom ROMs. You really cannot go wrong. The development for this device is awesome.
Since my introduction in the Android world Ive had nothing but HTC devices. I don't care for hard buttons so most of the Motorola devices are out for me. Plus, with HTC I can root and run aosp toms as well as Sense. Win win.
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Wat about the inc 2. There r a lot of new phhones comeing out and i.need some suggestions. My brother is a develeoper and he says hes gonna be using my phone for deving but not if i get the bionic. I wonder why. And also u guys know any deals on the thunderbolt? Like discounts or something? That would be great. Im gonna get tep for sure no matter what lil
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That thing has 2 cores and total of 512MB of RAM. Android OS is not even optimized for dual core hardware, not to mention that the amount of RAM could be a choking point for anything from Web browsing flash content to gaming.
No thanks.
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And have you actually tested Bionic so you can confirm this?
On a side note my Bolt lasts me 12+ hours for the last 4 days, my normal use.
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I second this... I have mine since launch the only thing I changed was the brightness, which i set at 30% as opposed to automatic. Since then, I my TB battery has given me 12+ hrs, with my normal use. The people who complain about the battery must have their gps turned on while surfing 4G all day.
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That thing has 2 cores and total of 512MB of RAM. Android OS is not even optimized for dual core hardware, not to mention that the amount of RAM could be a choking point for anything from Web browsing flash content to gaming.
No thanks.
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Are u reffering to the inc2. Do do you think the thunderbilt would be my best choice?
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Yup, the brightness did it for me as well.
unless you are trying to do linear programming on your phone, i see no point in a dual core phone. i do believe all tablets should be dual or quad core though because they replace PCs - your phone is meant to be held next to your ear and do some simple things like calendar, email etc, do video chat and so on. this is a communication device primarily - screen real estate is too small to be of much use beyond that. also consider motorola's pathetic laptop dock - does anybody think they want that? there is nothing you can do on that. convergence my rear end.
I don't have any experience with Motorola because I am a flash junkie and I don't want to be stuck with a locked bootloader and Motoblur overlay. My first Android was an HTC G1 and my only experience venturing away from HTC was the Samsung Vibrant, and although I learned a lot about flashing, after six months of not having an AOSP rom because Samsung would not release source, I gave up and got another HTC device. I'll stick with HTC, thanks.
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but i figure ill fire it out there. After going thru multiple warranty replacements and they even swapped my original x for an x2. It will not activate. the manager said he would send me an iphone4 32gig model. He said i will have until Friday to make my decision. I love android and never used ios. They will not ship me anything with a 4.3 inch screen except another x2. Im just tired of the swapping. I told them i may switch to sprint. I just am looking for opinions and i wont flame anyone for their opinion. Thanks all
They should be able to get you activated eventually, that sounds odd to me. I'm very happy with my DX2. I would rather have the Nvidia Tegra 2 processor over any other feature on any device. The qhd display is also amazing, don't let anyone tell you otherwise until you see a Tegra 2 game like PinballHD or RiptideGT in person.
I also have an original Droid X running ota Gingerbread and the performance is great. Once the DX2 is updated to 2.3 and more apps are written to take advantage of dual core this device will deliver some awesome performance. Fir now, gotta love scoring 2800+ on quadrant everytime with stock unrooted DX2
But do what's best for you. The iPhone is sweet and iOS 5 is just around the corner. That will be like xmas morning in iPhoneland, so many new features to unwrap! But I'm sticking with my Droooiiiiddddd
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Just a quick tip.. I had problems activating too.
This might help - Make sure you have good service and instead of pressing the activate button on the screen, go to emergency then dial *228. That worked for me.
Im not an Apple fan. Droid all the way
Just left iphone 4 on AT&T, signed up for Verizon, got DROID charge, returned charge a day later and got DROID x2. I am finally at home.
Dual core, qhd display, supreme build quality, reliable network, unlimited data and working netflix... simply can't beat it.
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Just left iphone 4 on AT&T, signed up for Verizon, got DROID charge, returned charge a day later and got DROID x2. I am finally at home.
Dual core, qhd display, supreme build quality, reliable network, unlimited data and working netflix... simply can't beat it.
Stick with it, take your x2. Because of the processor and the build, it will last you anonly get much better with gingerbread. Plus the boot loader will probably be unlocked in the future.
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Don't go to an IPhone
stick on android. A developer friendly community and not to mention its open source.
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Thanks for all the responses. By the way the emergency call *228 worked. Thank you for that. I used to have an iphone and when i activated it was like riding a bike again. But then it hit me that i have to jailbreak and add all these repos and install all this crap and have pretty icons all over the place. I got it 6 hours ago and its going back in the box. Im sticking with the x2. Hopefully it gets updated soon and all will be right with the world. I now despise apple products even more. Its more of a gimick toy for someone to say "i have an iphone" Sorry i doubted you android, even if it was only a couple of hours.
Yeah, ipwn is teh suc. Glad you stuck it out.
Yeah, good move with the x2. The ip4 is stable, intuitive and runs itself more or less... But it's so boring and limiting. The android phones just feel faster. Back when I was a dedicated iPhone guy, I thought the ip4 was blazing fast...until I started on android.
My OG Droid felt faster then the iPhone 4 after Root/ROM/OC. 10 minutes of work and I had a superior phone. (in my book)
Now that I've got the X2, using the iPhone feels like going back to my Palm Pre from the OG. Big leap forward, pentile display be damned.
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My OG Droid felt faster then the iPhone 4 after Root/ROM/OC. 10 minutes of work and I had a superior phone. (in my book)
Now that I've got the X2, using the iPhone feels like going back to my Palm Pre from the OG. Big leap forward, pentile display be damned.
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The X2 display is MUCH nicer than the Atrix's screen. Its like night and day for some reason, even though they are using similar tech.
Agreed. DX2 display is better.
I don't dislike it necessarily, it has just taken some adjustment from the OG Droid.
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I just came over from AT&T. Coming from a long line of iphone, I have owned the following devices, some less, some more than a month:
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Iphone 4
Htc inspire
Motorola atrix
Htc inspire
Samsung infuse
(Another) iphone 4
(Got onto verizon)
Samsung DROID charge (2 days)
Motorola DROID x2
And I can say with confidence the x2 is my favorite. Stability and build quality are great. Everything works and will only get better.
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I agree, and the thought of Gingerbread is exciting. I only hope Verizon doesn't take too long.
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Currently have the razr, but considering a switch to the rezound. I don't care about the nexus. Just wondering what everybody else thinks.
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I like the razr but the rezound did finally get the boatloader unlocked.
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Good question. I've read many reviews of the Rezound and they are all positive except for size. Some like the extra heft, some loathe it. Seems like a solid phone though, plus it has an unlocked BL now.
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If the bootloader wasn't an issue I would stay with the razr for sure. I came from an evo where the development was endless. I think the development for the razr would probably out live the rezound if it wasn't for the dang thing being locked. Ugh...I can't make up my mind.
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I would stay with the razr myself, but that's just me.
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After using multiple HTC phones, including my current Incredible S running cm7, I have a deep distaste for HTC. Just my own opinions. So I won't even want to compare any top line HTC phones with other brands like Moto/Samsung.
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After using multiple HTC phones, including my current Incredible S running cm7, I have a deep distaste for HTC. Just my own opinions. So I won't even want to compare any top line HTC phones with other brands like Moto/Samsung.
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I like the build quality but hate the hardware.
Nothing a little CM can't fix.
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Why I prefer the Razr over the Rezound:
Display has much less glare
Much easier to see outside
Better touch response
Better contrast and brightness
Hot swap card
Webtop (Atrix lapdock rocks)
Better call quality
Faster performance
That said, if you are a kernel and ROM junky, the Razr will probably leave you cold turkey.
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I like the build quality but hate the hardware.
Nothing a little CM can't fix.
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Lol. Thanks for not bashing me for having my own preferences and opinions. There are some hardcore HTC lovers and fan boys out there who sweat by them.
I had a rezound razr and nexus. Ill put in my .02$
Rezound was nice, screen felt tiny even though it was 4.3". 720p LCD is great. Colors are great. Sense is either you love it or hate it. I hated it, and it was a big turn off. It is now unlockable which will just lead to more development. The phone was fat but felt great in the hand, unlike the thinness of the razr. Beats was just a marketing tool, nothing really special about it, should not be a deciding factor. Battery life was decent, not as good as bionic/razr however. Oh and sense made the phone lag from time to time, but like the above guy said, nothing a desensed or CM rom cant fix.
This was one of the first threads on the Rezound vs RAZR...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332652&highlight=rezound
Here's another with a video...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380197&highlight=rezound
Tbh as much as people whined about battery life on this phone, I refused to get one with a faster processor, bigger screen, AND smaller battery. Just wasn't doing it for me.
Everyone seems to like the Rezound with one exception... they all says its slow for its specs. It packs a 1.5ghz processor but only fares as well as 1ghz phone, or so they say.
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Currently have the razr, but considering a switch to the rezound. I don't care about the nexus. Just wondering what everybody else thinks.
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A brand from Taiwan is not comparable with USA's technology at all, razr is perfect
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I had a rezound razr and nexus. Ill put in my .02$
Rezound was nice, screen felt tiny even though it was 4.3". 720p LCD is great. Colors are great. Sense is either you love it or hate it. I hated it, and it was a big turn off. It is now unlockable which will just lead to more development. The phone was fat but felt great in the hand, unlike the thinness of the razr. Beats was just a marketing tool, nothing really special about it, should not be a deciding factor. Battery life was decent, not as good as bionic/razr however. Oh and sense made the phone lag from time to time, but like the above guy said, nothing a desensed or CM rom cant fix.
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Talk about the Nexus now. What brought you here again?
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I try and think of it this way... If all the devices had say CM7 on them which one would you want?
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I try and think of it this way... If all the devices had say CM7 on them which one would you want?
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Razr, because its build and call quality are superior.
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Razr, because its build and call quality are superior.
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+1 on that.
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This is just my experience of course. But I had two Rezounds before I got my RAZR. I did my research and the Rezound seemed to have the edge. First one's casing around the charging port jiggled. It was unsettling so I got a different one. The second one's call quality was so scrambled you could barely hear the other side. My family got a total of 5 Rezounds, and 3 had horrible call quality.
So finally I got the RAZR instead, and I'm so glad I switched. It never bogs down due to Sense, and call quality and signal are the best I've had on a phone. The screen resolution is a bit lower, but it's not noticeable. Actually it's nice having bigger text. And for build and call quality, speed, and battery life, the RAZR wins hands down in my experience.
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Ok I know I'm weird but i have all 3 devices. I've used each for at least 3 days or more and I'll throw in my 3 cents. For me I'll list in order of devices.
1 - The Razr 95%
2 - Rezound 85%
3 - Galazy Nexus - 45% (I think I'm giving that too high a mark really)
I should mention I've rooted all 3 and use them with heavy use with over 3000 contacts, GPS and lots of phone calls to my clients.
Razr - screen beautiful, Navigation gps locks in a nonosecond, volume is excellent, fast and just a pleasure to use and very light to hold. With 2 rooted apps (Battery Calibration and AutoKiller Memory Optimizer I'm getting almost 2 days with all my use!!! On the negative side I think the thin is great but I wish it was not so wide for my smaller hands. Quadrant score consistent over 2700 (I don't know if that means anything really but it is cool to blow everything out of the water)
Rezound - screen is very nice, smaller print etc so harder to read for my old eyes, not quite as brilliant as the Razr. Navigation GPS lock not as quick as the Razr but quick. Volume on par with the Razr and like the Razr all software works excellent. With 2 rooted apps (Battery Calibration and AutoKiller Memory Optimizer) I'm able to get about 18 hours on average so ok) Quadrant score consistent over 2100 - not bad. I Like the resound in my hand as it's not as wide but it weights like a small brick.
Galaxy Nexus - I was so thinking this would be bomb...but after several days of use it is a bomb and not in a good way. Navigation GPS takes forever, Volume is abysmal, I mean from 5 feet away you can hardly hear a ring or music...horrible. I have a motorola bluetooth headphones and with my phone in my pocket I get a silence every 5 seconds, unacceptable to say the least. With 2 rooted apps (Battery Calibration and AutoKiller Memory Optimizer) I was getting about 10 hours of use and for that reason alone it gets an F. Quadrant score about 1200 but again not sure that means much. But really its an F for me for almost all categories except Ice Cream Sandwich which is nice, but Gingerbread works just fine for me with the other 2 phones. Phone is wide like the Razr and the weight is in the middle of the Razr and the Rezound.
This review is just my opinion. The Galaxy I just sold on Ebay and I will not miss it at all. I'm keeping both the Razr and the Rezound and have for now trading off using each. Being able to flash roms on the Rezound is way fun and at the moment I'm on Ineffabilis ROM which has so many cool tweaks and that make me smile.
I hope this helps,
Cheers to you all...
Loved my first Rezound, until it started overheating 131F. Verizon replaced it.
Loved my second Rezound, until first YouTube stopped working completely then the internet stopped working intermittently. It only worked when it wanted to.
My 3rd Rezound was defective right out of the box. Would not read a SIM card at all.
Strike 3,... and now I have a Razr Maxx. I miss the true 720p display the Rezound had,...but that's it. The Razr Maxx other than the less than perfect display has run flawless in all areas.... Except one.....
..... I think the Rezounds Adreno 220 is a faster smother GPU than the Razr's PowerVR SGX540 GPU, in most games. I've only found one game where the Razr way our performs the Rezound and thats Modern Combat 3, which is almost like playing a PC game its so smooth. On my Rezound it was laggy.
Oh well I'm enjoying the Razr but I still feel a little torn because I've been an HTC fan for years.
The battery is the only thing I'd want.
buy an extra battery for 25 and problem solved
HTC cameras still beat the rest. Samsung is decent, and Motorola has been the worst for quite some time. It's a shame really, since Moto is the only one still trying to keep a good hardware keyboard phone in their lineup. I hope they get that sorted out with some decent sensors in the next generation.
Great enjoy your Maxx. I'm jealous of that battery though.
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i tinkered with one of those razr's before. i don't know how you can tolerate the screen... the weird fuzziness around text/icons really bothered my eyes.
just looking at that screen makes me want to punch a baby, especially after using the rezound.
I have rezound and razr. And I still prefer the rezound. Because the diaplay, sense, camera and fast /smoth UI
The only thing in rezoind its because it is soo heavy
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The only thing in rezoind its because it is soo heavy
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Well, people do s-off and think they bricked their phone. I say "Wasn't it a brick before?"
I really wanted to droid 4 to be nice, because I love a hardware keyboard, but it is just dreadful. I can't wait for Verizon to pick up some more Windows phones. I love WP7. That's the only thing I'm jealous of at$t users.
(The money symbol was not a mistake)
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just looking at that screen makes me want to punch a baby, especially after using the rezound.
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LOL, exactly.....
tspderek said:
just looking at that screen makes me want to punch a baby, especially after using the rezound.
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Yep, the motorola Amoled screens with pentile suck!!!
yeah, crappy screen and its wider than a thunderbolt. Its uncomfortable to hold. Do like the stock battery in that sucker though.
It's not even a stock battery though, it's just a Razr with an extended battery since they can't change batteries, which i think is pretty ****ed up for old razr users
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I really wanted to droid 4 to be nice, because I love a hardware keyboard, but it is just dreadful. I can't wait for Verizon to pick up some more Windows phones. I love WP7. That's the only thing I'm jealous of at$t users.
(The money symbol was not a mistake)
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I agree. WP7 is really nice. Can't wait for more selection on Verizon too.
I think this year there won't be any big big changes in phones, mostly 720p, dual core, and 1080p camera will become a very standard feature... Hmmm what's next, quad core, ahhh I really don't see the hype for it, give me dual core at over 2ghz and **** load of ram, and maybe a graphics card !!!!!
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You get no argument out of me.
The Rezound has a far superior display and GPU.
But now that the honeymoon is over as far as functionality is concerned the Razr works better. Swype is way more advanced than HTC's.. I'm using it all the time now.... Even right now.
As soon as they make a new HTC that's thin and light weight with a stock 3300 mAh battery with Gorilla Glass. That doesn't have the problems. I'm back on board.
Had a long conversation with HTC yesterday and they are currently working on a patch for the Internet connectivity problems on the Rezound. Verizon tech support told me they have had several come back worth this very issue. HTC is hoping ICS will help.
I love HTC phones I just had a bad experience with my Rezounds.
I hope all of you have an awesome day.
Connectivity issues????? My Rezound has the strongest signal along with the latest radios and fastest LTE out of all Verizon phones I have owned. I have had them all.
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My mom has a razr. She uses the car dock when driving.
The car dock icons are burned into the screen.
I lol at her crappy phone....
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My Son bought a razor maxx this morning, he wanted the big battery and doesn't really care what the screen looks like.
I was playing with and kinda liking it until I brought up a high def video that we both have on our cards. OMG, that videos looks stunningly bad on the razor and looks like a high def tv on my Rezound .............
I was given the option to switch? What should I do? I am getting really desperate because of no root on my DNA!? Is there any other phones on Verizon I should look towards?
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ramongarza said:
I was given the option to switch? What should I do? I am getting really desperate because of no root on my DNA!? Is there any other phones on Verizon I should look towards?
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Galaxy s4 at the end of the month. Pretty sure it will see more action than the DNA. Though DNA imo is probably better.
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The only better spec on the razr is probably the battery it has nothing on the dna.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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Ummm... No....
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I've owned both. The battery life is immensely great on the maxx. But it being locked down like the dna was horrible. Motoblur is kept to a minimum. While Rom speed ends up slow due to the lacking dual core. The moto doesn't have anything resembling a task manager so the phone becomes quick overrun by rogue apps robbing memory. It does have a decent radio but the lte radios were horrible. I had a unique problem the other razr owners had. Dust would accumulate in the headphone port cause it not to switch AT ALL. The Maxx is a decent phone. But the HTC has a better radio and reception, faster processor and a better camera. However. The maxx had a better microphone for videos. I have comparison videos I could post if you'd like. But. I chose the DNA.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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How do you know that the radios are better? "Because its a Motorola" is not a valid answer.
OP, the razr HD is even wider than the DNA. It is difficult to use with one hand.
Sad to know that specwise. The RAZR. Is/mighthavebeen the thinnest phone on the market. I got better reception on my DNA than I ever did on the maxx. It would also heat up quite a bit whereas the DNA is slightly warm? And only hot with my wireless charger. The razr used to heat up even in a long phone call which made it almost unbearable to hold on your face. I also had to send my RAZR in for a refurb. Vibe motor became disconnected from the mobo and rattled in the phone. Except the razr had a very strong vibe motor. The colors and screen quality got better with the JB update it got. However in lowlight settings the physical manufacturing limits of the screen left black splotches that with time will expand and move about the screen. You cannot see these under high brightness. 3 razr maxx's and one friends razr all had this issue so its not limited to batch runs. I can imagine they improved this with the newer HD version but I can't atest to it. The motorola hardware is SOLID. But the software that moto overlays can be cumbersome. At least HTC always tests sense. Even on a 5-600mhz Qualcomm the sense doesn't lag. I can keep answering any questions you have. I'm very very picky. My DNA headphone port plastic chipped away one day. But. I still have my charge door. I don't plug in.
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If you're at all used to the speed, display, and smoove operating on the DNA, the Maxx HD will be a difficult pill to swallow. I went that route and had real trouble getting over the screen; there is absolutely no comparison to the DNA and the DNA wins hands down. The second thing I noticed on the Maxx HD was the lag that creeps up and bites you on the @ss. At first I didn't think it was any big deal. As time went on however, the lag got worse and worse until I finally said, "Enough!". At one point I was using TiB to reboot the phone for me every night just to clear things out.
I gave up the stellar battery life for a phone I'm in love with. IMHO there isn't anything out there which compares to the DNA; my only desire would be a bigger battery, but there are tradeoffs to be considered. I've learned to live with the battery life using a combo of carefully monitoring specific app battery consumption and using a wireless charger. I'm sure there are people who have gone this route and decided to stick with the Maxx HD or some other phone for their own personal priorities.
With the launch of the S4 and the One I'm sure they will rival the DNA in many areas. However I don't know if they'll usurp the DNA in my daily usage, that remains to be seen. Good luck with your choice!
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Reception: My wife has never before commented on my phones and their reception. However when I started using the DNA she said, "Your phone sounds a lot clearer than it has in the past. Have you been somewhere other than your normal place for talking to me while at work?" I've noticed the DNA is as good or better than the Moto for reception and voice quality; IMHO that's not at all a reason to give up the DNA.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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As a Moto owner (Bionic) I find it interesting that you think updates come quicker for Motorola than for HTC. Its not the brand, its VZW!
On a side note, I'm considering the DNA as a replacement for my Bionic. I'm mainly concerned that I'll be switching from one red-headed step-child to another! Currently waiting to see what happens with the HTC One before I make my decision.
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As a Moto owner (Bionic) I find it interesting that you think updates come quicker for Motorola than for HTC. Its not the brand, its VZW!
On a side note, I'm considering the DNA as a replacement for my Bionic. I'm mainly concerned that I'll be switching from one red-headed step-child to another! Currently waiting to see what happens with the HTC One before I make my decision.
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Dude, your Bionic just got JB! You should be happy. :good:
I work for Verizon and I have the DNA as my personal phone and the Razr Maxx HD as my work phone. I can tell you I like both I don't think either is bad but there are pros a cons. for me I like the 32GB of internal and up to 64GB MicroSD card support on the Razr. I love the battery on the Razr like 2 to 3 days with good usage. however cons horrible camera. The dual core lags and the phone freezes more for me. also the screen is no where near as good. also I and I will get a lot that disagree actually like Sense over motoblur. Mind you I have Sense 5. Also I love the wireless charging in the DNA. Personally I am waiting I have heard we are getting a DNA+ soon and S4 is coming amongst a few others.
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How do you know that the radios are better? "Because its a Motorola" is not a valid answer.
OP, the razr HD is even wider than the DNA. It is difficult to use with one hand.
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"Because it's a motorola" is a completely valid answer. They have *never* been good at tuning radios for use on VZW's network. It's always been crap, from the OG Droid to the new RAZR line, and the Bionic was a massive failure in that category, worse than others. The only thing Motorola knows how to do is build decent material-quality handsets. Everything else about them is less than sub par.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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The updates come *way* quicker from HTC than Motorola, some of them don't even come at all from Motorola.
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Dude, your Bionic just got JB! You should be happy. :good:
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I "should" be happy, except that I'm running CM10.1, so I haven't even bothered with the JB update. To be honest, I was really surprised that they even pushed the JB update out. It took forever to get ICS, and don't forget all the radio issues with the Bionic.
Still, I can (and may) upgrade next month. Not totally happy with any of the options at this point, so I may hold on a little longer. I've even contemplated buying a used phone and leaving my contract as-is for now in case I get totally frustrated with VZW and decide to jump ship.
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I "should" be happy, except that I'm running CM10.1, so I haven't even bothered with the JB update. To be honest, I was really surprised that they even pushed the JB update out. It took forever to get ICS, and don't forget all the radio issues with the Bionic.
Still, I can (and may) upgrade next month. Not totally happy with any of the options at this point, so I may hold on a little longer. I've even contemplated buying a used phone and leaving my contract as-is for now in case I get totally frustrated with VZW and decide to jump ship.
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I was pretty surprised about the JB as well; I think Moto is trying to make up for the bad mojo created early in the life of that device. Back in the day I went through a couple of them and agonized over terrible radios, poor battery life, a year before an official ICS was released, bad camera, etc...you know the drill. I couldn't handle it and jumped ship for a GNex (at the time).
Regarding not upgrading, I highly recommend sticking with the used market and leaving the contract alone or going month-to-month. Especially since VZW pushed the upgrade cycle from 18mo. to 24mo., even the economics of upgrading don't make a whole lot of sense to me. Of course I'm grandfathered in to unlimited data so they can pry that out of my cold, dead hands. The secondary market really isn't bad, and it's especially safe on eBay. Generally you can catch a price break on CL, but there are a lot of shady characters pushing some bad deals - if you know what to look out for though, it can be navigated.
Good luck with your choice, and with whatever device you choose next.
Motorola X Phone may be a good choice
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Motorola X Phone may be a good choice
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If it ever comes... and will it end up being the next Bionic? Remember, that was supposed to come out in Feb 2011, but was delayed until Sept. Then the RAZR showed up just before Christmas!
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If it ever comes... and will it end up being the next Bionic? Remember, that was supposed to come out in Feb 2011, but was delayed until Sept. Then the RAZR showed up just before Christmas!
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True. Then again what real staying power does any king of the hill have? Only until the next younger, stronger, smarter, faster, better looking, more nimble, blah, blah, blah....shows up. In all seriousness, I am really impressed with the way the Bionic hardware and build can still almost keep up with the current pack. Says a lot about Moto, at least Moto ca. 2010.
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True. Then again what real staying power does any king of the hill have? Only until the next younger, stronger, smarter, faster, better looking, more nimble, blah, blah, blah....shows up. In all seriousness, I am really impressed with the way the Bionic hardware and build can still almost keep up with the current pack. Says a lot about Moto, at least Moto ca. 2010.
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Very good point. So my real question, and reason for posting in this thread, is to find out if the DNA might be the next phone to do the same... Although I have my concerns about the fixed internal battery and lack of microSD.
I had a RMHD bought through Bestbuy. I loved the build and feel of it, the battery was amazing , but the thing that pushed me away was the horrible lag and screen redraws. It drove me crazy. Now having had a Note 2 which for me was too large, I decided to switch to the DNA last Saturday and am pretty happy so far. Size and speed are great , battery is decent (nowhere near RMHD or N2) but fine for my usage. Bought the wireless charger and like it also. That's just my experience. Had the RMHD not lagged so much I would have gone with it .
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