Hi all, so I'm in the middle of replacing the digitizer for my TB. Got the new digitizer hooked in - there is supposed to be adhesive included, but I'm not sure what form it has taken. I have a clear piece of plaster with 2 printed tabs that say "Please peel off this mask before application" and "Please peel off this mark after application". I also have a white sticker looking thing, when I peel the paper back a see a clear piece of plastic inside. The only adhesive I've seen before goes around the sides - is the thunderbolt a clear platic adhesive that covers the whole surface? I'm assuming maybe one of these is a free screen protector they might have included? Pic of both attached
Edit: white sticker-looking one is a bit thinner than the width of the screen, am I supposed to cut this into strips to go around the outside?
Now that I go back and look - the listing I bought from didn't actually mention any adhesive, so I'm not 100% either of these necessarily are the adhesive.
rledge21 said:
Hi all, so I'm in the middle of replacing the digitizer for my TB. Got the new digitizer hooked in - there is supposed to be adhesive included, but I'm not sure what form it has taken. I have a clear piece of plaster with 2 printed tabs that say "Please peel off this mask before application" and "Please peel off this mark after application". I also have a white sticker looking thing, when I peel the paper back a see a clear piece of plastic inside. The only adhesive I've seen before goes around the sides - is the thunderbolt a clear platic adhesive that covers the whole surface? I'm assuming maybe one of these is a free screen protector they might have included? Pic of both attached
Edit: white sticker-looking one is a bit thinner than the width of the screen, am I supposed to cut this into strips to go around the outside?
Now that I go back and look - the listing I bought from didn't actually mention any adhesive, so I'm not 100% either of these necessarily are the adhesive.
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It looks identical to the screen protectors from verizon, peel #1 off, apply to screen, peel #2 off, squeeze air bubbles out
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rledge21 said:
Hi all, so I'm in the middle of replacing the digitizer for my TB. Got the new digitizer hooked in - there is supposed to be adhesive included, but I'm not sure what form it has taken. I have a clear piece of plaster with 2 printed tabs that say "Please peel off this mask before application" and "Please peel off this mark after application". I also have a white sticker looking thing, when I peel the paper back a see a clear piece of plastic inside. The only adhesive I've seen before goes around the sides - is the thunderbolt a clear platic adhesive that covers the whole surface? I'm assuming maybe one of these is a free screen protector they might have included? Pic of both attached
Edit: white sticker-looking one is a bit thinner than the width of the screen, am I supposed to cut this into strips to go around the outside?
Now that I go back and look - the listing I bought from didn't actually mention any adhesive, so I'm not 100% either of these necessarily are the adhesive.
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use an exacto knife and cut thin strips odd the white adhesive. Be careful not to cover sensors or have it too wife so that you can see it on the screen. Make sure you put enough along the bottom or you'll have the soft key lights bleed on the screen something fierce. Good luck!
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um.... Not sure what these other guys are talking about, but the guy I know that does these uses a 2mm tape made specifically for this task produced by 3M. If someone sent you a sheet of crap you gotta cut up to make work, you got hosed in my opinion. I believe in doing a job right, and THAT doesn't strike me as how they do it at HTC. I believe Amazon has the correct 3M tape for this job.
loonatik78 said:
um.... Not sure what these other guys are talking about, but the guy I know that does these uses a 2mm tape made specifically for this task produced by 3M. If someone sent you a sheet of crap you gotta cut up to make work, you got hosed in my opinion. I believe in doing a job right, and THAT doesn't strike me as how they do it at HTC. I believe Amazon has the correct 3M tape for this job.
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Can you give me a link. It is greatly appreciated.
Here ya go.
They also have 3mm and 1mm, but 2mm is recommended. Just put it on the outer edge of the digitizer, don't let it overlap the black bezel. I highly recommend layering 2 strips on each side or you will not have enough space between the glass and LCD and eventually they will touch which will make it look like there is water inside it.
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the lens on my back cover cracked when dropped a while back, and to get a good photo i now have to remove the back cover to get the obstruction off... is there anything i can buy short of a whole new back cover? all i need is a sticky piece of glass like the one that comes on the original cover...
thanks!
Why don't you just take a piece of plastic and work on it with sandpaper? You could even use some cd jewel case. The material is usually fragile but if you make a cut on its surface with a sharp knife it will tend to brake along this line. So it's fairly easy to break it down to a rectangular shape roughly the size of the camera cover and work with sandpaper or a file until you have a proper shape. Putting some sticky paper cut to shape of the cover on the plastic (preferably on both sides) will help in achieving the proper shape and will protect the surface from scratching.
Just look around the hose and be creative - i'm sure you'll be able to find a piece of clear, non-scratched plastic somewhere If you feel that the cd-case plastic will be too soft and will scratch too easily you could apply a piece of screen protector to it. It sure isn't worth buying a new screen protector just for that but if you already have one on your phone you could use a piece of it to protect camera cover and get a new one for the screen
As for attaching the cover to g1 back cover, there are many ways ranging from glues to double-sided sticky tapes. Use whatever you have at your disposal (just stay away from cyanoacrylate adhesive aka super glue - its vapor will ruin the transparent plastic).
a new back cover is cheap, like $6.
Camera Lens
jnagar said:
the lens on my back cover cracked when dropped a while back, and to get a good photo i now have to remove the back cover to get the obstruction off... is there anything i can buy short of a whole new back cover? all i need is a sticky piece of glass like the one that comes on the original cover...
thanks!
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what is your phone model? Different phones have different camera lens with varied shape. A camera lens can not be just replaced by a plastic stuff as the guy said above and it is a prttey tough thing to shape the plastic. an original camera lens does not much. It may be no more than $1。
Refer to the following thread where a person used a spray on material to create a soft touch battery door for a Nexus S. I wonder if this could be used on the rear cover for protection?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881062
Cool idea. Most hardware stores I've been to have it, but its not always in spray form. I wouldn't mess with the dip stuff (often used for keys, tools, etc.) I might have to pick some up myself. Comes in some different colors as well sometimes.
I've had a key on my keychain that has been dipped and after 3yrs its almost ready to come off completely. Of course, I only used it to tell them apart.
I did it. Edit: Finally got the photos up.
I took the four screws off and removed the back panel. Used four small pieces of painters tape to cover up the screw holes, but actually let the rubber go underneath so the sides of the corners were covered and continuous as much as possible.
I put about five or six coatings on. Only bad part is that you need to wait 30+ minutes between coatings. I let it off gas a little before putting it all back together. It does stink a little, not headache inducing though, at first. After about 12hrs it just smells like rubber and isn't noticeable.
$7.50 or so at Lowe's for a can. I did this and a phone and there is still some left in it I believe.
Like the Nexus post says, it works best if there are few noncontinuous parts of the rubber to get snagged on things. This was part of the reason I removed the case.
No responsibility for messing yours up, etc. etc.
vsc said:
Refer to the following thread where a person used a spray on material to create a soft touch battery door for a Nexus S. I wonder if this could be used on the rear cover for protection?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881062
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This looks sweet vsc. I like my carbon fiber rear cover, but a soft rubberized grip would definitely be better.
Just added some photos up above. I forgot to add that the back case goes on just as easy as it came off. Buttons still work, and the little door still opens correctly. It *almost* looks like it could have come this way. Its actually thin enough you can still see a slight bump from where the sticker for the serial number is (not in the pictures though, sorry). I think it looks a bit better now than having all those extra words on the back of the case. My case had already started to get rather scratched up even when I was careful.
I'll try to update on durability if it starts to look bad.
One other thing. My corners don't look the greatest because the first time I did it I let it dry with the corner tape on and then had to exacto knife the plastic and tape off once it had dried. I think it would do better if you made nice rounded tape areas, or just bought some rounded stickers or something. But definitely put them on lightly and take them off between each coat so the corners dry without the tape/stickers.
Hello,
Have any one noticed that the Droid RAZR surrounding plastic border, at the back, color gets dim from putting it on your desk or table. It's not very obvious, you wont see it except in strong light, but it's obvious enough to bother me every time I look at my RAZR
I have attached a pic I found online which has the same problem as mine and I highlighted the scratched or the dim parts on the plastic border.
Is there a fix for these scratches?
What were you thinking in, Motorola. Why didn't you choose a stronger material around the phone, I mean you did a great job by choosing gorilla glass to protect the display and Kelvar fabrics on the back, and the coating which protects the internal body parts. Yet you made the material which gets the most damages and is highly vulnerable out of plastic...
If you ever owned an iPod with a stainless steel back you'd know that being plastic or metal won't change the eventual appearance of fine scratches. Glass stays shiny and doesn't scratch as easily, but we all saw the crap people gave Apple for making the back of their phone out of that.
I doubt that the scratches can be removed even if they could be you're just going to get them back by putting the phone on your desk again. If you have to go out of your way to look for it under a strong light, it sounds like you either need a case, a hobby, or both.
There actually is a method for removing scratches:
1. Fine grain abrasive paper
2. Abrasive paste
But that will eliminate the paint on your backplate and you should re-paint it with an acrylic paint (like spray paint).
If you're so brave to do that...well..do it...but consider the idea of taking your RAZR as it is and to not put it directly on your desk but like me, put it on its pouch.
The fact that it's going to be scratched is absolutely normal... it's a phone..!
The coolest thing you can do would be to take out the back plate and sent it to a powdercoater. That's what I would do but I think it will mess up the warranty. it would be so cool though.
Isn't it an excess to powdercoat it?
Hey probably in 1 year you won't have it anymore xD
....But I have to admit it would be cool.
Can't polish and compound fix it?
The ones I use for my car =D
mzaza said:
Hello,
Have any one noticed that the Droid RAZR surrounding plastic border, at the back, color gets dim from putting it on your desk or table. It's not very obvious, you wont see it except in strong light, but it's obvious enough to bother me every time I look at my RAZR
I have attached a pic I found online which has the same problem as mine and I highlighted the scratched or the dim parts on the plastic border.
Is there a fix for these scratches?
What were you thinking in, Motorola. Why didn't you choose a stronger material around the phone, I mean you did a great job by choosing gorilla glass to protect the display and Kelvar fabrics on the back, and the coating which protects the internal body parts. Yet you made the material which gets the most damages and is highly vulnerable out of plastic...
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I have the same problem with my first Droid Razr. Then returned it to Verizon Wireless because I got the deal from Amazon.
And on second one, I put more care over that plastic bezel and put carefully a slice of transparent tape to cover it.
Though running at the risk of scratching the plastic bezel, I still let it run nakedly because it is the thinnest phone in the world and any cover will blow that title.
Mine scratched in the same places. I used car polish (Meguires Scratch X) to remove them. Just be gentle. I keep mine in my Casemate case now to prevent more.
That! One of the reason I moved from sgs2 because the plasticky body also collect the scratch at the same area (top and bottom). But it turned out razr metal body also can collect scratch... Geezz, i always put in my left pocket together with handkerchief, never ever put any coins or metallic substances near my phone....
And now, while i look closer to my screen, it too has collect two fine scratch line. Small, but i can see it. I think gorilla glass is way overhyped... As i wander around i also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358493
p.s: can we sue corning? or those guys who hammered their gorilla-glassed phone on you tube with knife?
The title of your thread implies that you already have a fix. You should have it edited.
Otherwise just buy a dang cover/case for the phone or buy little soft towels for every spot you put it down...
With all the complaints of just glue around the edges of glass screen protectors, especially the curved edge to edge ones, has anybody though about trying to find and apply their own? I did a quick search for glue or adhesives for screen protectors, but all I could find was glue to replace actual screens, which were permanent bonding type. I'm thinking if you could just buy the adhesive yourself, apply to the whole protector, then pretty much all the pitfalls of current crop of tgsp for the op5 go away. Thoughts?
From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
Applying it in a way that keeps it invisible is the trick.
I've had similar thoughts btw
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Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
Trying to source the right one of those might be the best bet.
I haven't been through them all, but a transparent under 200um would be best.
tesa 61360 is 100um thick.
Tbh I wonder if a 5mm wide tape would be better than full screen. But I guess there's tapes wide enough to do all the screen
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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And if it doesn't work you take it of again.
Nice to see the spirit that made xda great is still alive and kicking..
Where's your spirit of adventure?
djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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I didn't realize it was a strip of silicon. I was thinking more along the lines of some sort of spray adhesive. Low strength, optically clear of course would be ideal. Applying a strip would indeed be a bad idea.
fards said:
From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
[/COLOR]Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
djsubterrain said:
Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Unless you get a sheet of that tape to cover all the screen..
My initial thoughts were just a slightly wider strip than the usual. That should give a better deal than what we've had so far..
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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Glass camera lens assemblies are glued together with a UV set adhesive. It is not a trivial task to separate these elements after bonding but it does make a bubble free bond and remains workable until hit with the UV. a search for camera lens cement should find several choices. Before high tech the lens elements were bonded with a balsam adhesive which also works.
deadsea said:
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
stubey said:
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
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The OCA tape is supposedly the more convenient cousin of the LOCA that's also used to bond lcd to glass. I would assume the bond strengths to be similar. Just less equipment required.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
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https://youtu.be/8EBOs_Fntjs
The videos available for the whitestone protector show that its possible to just peel it off. Considering that they also use a UV curing glue, I would suspect there is a low bond version LOCA. Or the lcd is just that fragile during repair that the special tools are required. More Google work might get some answers on that.
I did find the bond strength for the TP2500 though. 0.3 N per mm2. About 3kg per cm2. No clue if that is strong though since I have no frame of reference.
Moar digging.... There has to be a way to get the TSP to work on our phone...
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I've had my new S21 for a few hours now, and I keep finding more and more strips of the protective plastic that needs to be peeled off . Does anyone make a special light which make this plastic fluoresce? Could be a great new product!
LOL, I agree.
If I recall correctly, think I found the two big obvious sheets covering the back plastic and the screen glass. Another smaller sheet covering the camera bump and lenses. Then two (three?) very skinny separate strips wrap the circumference of the phone (the metal frame). One starts just to the right of the bottom speaker grill and runs up to the power/volume buttons. Another strip from but button around the top of the phone. And a third strip from the left of the SIM card and up the left-hand side frame. The strips along the circumference are hard to see or feel, and you need to find the start/end of the strip in order to begin peeling it off. I used my fingernail to find each end-point, then picked at the end until it came free enough so I could grab and pull up the entire strip.
I hope I found them all as I've put the phone into a Samsung leather case, which fits so snugly I can barely get it back out.
Leave it be and case it.
Without a case it only a matter of time until it self destructs.
As the protective film works its way loose remove so grit that gets trap under it doesn't mar the phone's finish. Otherwise it helps to protect from case marring.
Leave the display factory protector on as long as possible until it degrades.