Hello, my TouchPad has Ubuntu Chroot but I can't manage to install the Android SDK to be able to program on eclipse in my TouchPad, is it possible ? I believe Chroot lacks the ubuntu installer or something
SkynightZ said:
Hello, my TouchPad has Ubuntu Chroot but I can't manage to install the Android SDK to be able to program on eclipse in my TouchPad, is it possible ? I believe Chroot lacks the ubuntu installer or something
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It is still a _very_ slow computer compared with your PC. Why not do the compiling on your PC and remotely login from your touchpad (if you really like to use touchpad with bluetooth keyboard as a termninal)?
goTouchGo said:
It is still a _very_ slow computer compared with your PC. Why not do the compiling on your PC and remotely login from your touchpad (if you really like to use touchpad with bluetooth keyboard as a termninal)?
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I wouldn't say very slow, with emphasis. My secondary craptop only has a 1.73 Ghz 1st gen dual core Intel processor w/ a 5 year old video card. I think the Touchpad could def. give it a run for its money. Very slow, with emphasis, to me is a Pentium 4 @ 2 Ghz or less and a GeForce 2 MX.
SpikeyPsyche said:
I wouldn't say very slow, with emphasis. My secondary craptop only has a 1.73 Ghz 1st gen dual core Intel processor w/ a 5 year old video card. I think the Touchpad could def. give it a run for its money. Very slow, with emphasis, to me is a Pentium 4 @ 2 Ghz or less and a GeForce 2 MX.
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Not a fair comparison at all. Just because an ARM processor and the comparable x86 processor may have the same clock speed, it doesn't mean that they'll compete. The x86 architecture has been much more widely accepted and hence developed over the years. An x86 will beat out an ARM processor clock for clock until there's more development done for ARM.
Are you making sure to use a version of the android sdk that is compiled against ARM? Some of it is java, but there are some compiled native libraries too.
Eclipse is not the fastest IDE even on a PC. I mean my netbook runs it pretty sluggest and it's a higher end atom (2 cores). I think much more than vim or emacs would start to annoy me.
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Since Windows NT supports RISC CPU's, and the PPC CPU's are based on RISC, I was wondering if it is possible to somehow install Windows NT on an Pocket Pc.
What do you guy's think ?
Not snowball's chance in hell. NT was only ever built for x86, SPARC, MIPS and ALPHA (I think there may have been a couple of others) - never for any ARM cores. Same goes for Win 9x/ME/2k/XP/Vista/Whatever.
-- The only alternative OSes you are ever likely to see are *nix/BSD derivatives. --
yes, but what i meant is that nt supports risc cpu architecture. so thats why my question came up
fek NT - get ubuntu
so could i install ubuntu?
they got a new ubuntu-mobile edition comming up
would that work?
soothomas said:
yes, but what i meant is that nt supports risc cpu architecture. so thats why my question came up
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RISC Architecture is not a "standard" like x86, it's more a theory of processor archiecture design. Windows NT supported some RISC architecture processor families as it supported some CISC processors. One might argue that since it supported CISC, it should run on Motorola 680x0 or Natsemi 32016. Clearly it doesn't
You specificially said NT so this probably doesnt help, but there are tutorials and guides out there to help you get Win95/98 emulated and away on your PPC. Runs sub-par though, but if I recall this was done back in 2005, PPCs and emulating software might have come a long way since then..
Just a quick question from someone who is new to this kinda scene, just curious if anyone knows if its possible to run LoL on my eee pad prime (not using a remote rdc though) if i installed linux and used wine would this work? (or are there any other possibilities)
Looking at the minimum system requirements:
Minimum System Requirements
2 GHz processor
1 GB RAM (Windows Vista and 7 users will want 2 GB of RAM or more)
750 MB available hard disk space
Shader version 2.0 capable video card
Support for DirectX v9.0c or better
Windows XP, Windows Vista, or Windows 7 (Mac OS is currently not supported)
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I really don't see being able to play this game on the Prime, especially via Wine.
Only processor speed will be questionable. We do have quad core though. Once we overclock even higher, 2ghz will be easily obtained, it will be possible. That will be dependent of how well a dual boot of Ubuntu will be. Right now it runs alongside android so it shares CPU power etc...Once we dual boot, then ubuntu will have full access to whatever CPU/gpu power it needs. Then it'll just be a manner of getting LoL to load/install on it. Those other specs prime already has or better. PRIME is a beast. Alot more powerful than people may realize. Especially now that we already overclocked to 1.6ghz without even a custom rom or bootloader unlocked. It'll only get better from here. I'd say we doing great, developement wise, in Prime first month of usage. OVERCLOCK, root, ICS, Ubuntu, Fedora, Linux(Backtrk5), added drivers, themes, n so on.
The problem here is you will be trying to run an x86 game on ARM. I'm not sure if x86 emulators even exist to the required standard to even attempt this, but even if they do then you'll likely need a machine with way more power than the prime. Probably 3-5 times at least.
Emulating is very resource demanding.
Thanks for the replies everyone im looking forward to seeing what the prime can do in the near future, i do really enjoy having one, i cant wait untill everything runs perfect with it (rdcs with keyboard bindings for the dock, alt/esc and left/right click working properly) thanks again everyone
After installing the Ubuntu on the transformer prime, anyone no if it would be capable of playing DC Universe online....
Dc Universe Online does run on ubuntu I have it installed on my pc it run great. I was hoping to install ubuntu on my Prime and play DCUO on it.
I know the CPU is a quad core with 1gb ram and a hi end nvidia GPU
Through splashtop or a good remote desktop, then yes. As far as through Ubuntu installed on prime. Doubt it at the moment.
REASON: Ubuntu installs at the moment aren't true ones. They still run alongside Android. Therefore Ubuntu doesn't have access to full power of CPU n gpu. Once bootloader unlocked, then we can have dual boot. Once you dual boot into Ubuntu, then you will access to all power n resources of tegra3.
Can't hurt to try though. Let us know how it goes on current setup.
Also i think Ubuntu games are x86 applications, i'm not a linux expert though. But x86 games wont work on the prime no matter what software you're using, because they are not compatible with ARM CPUs. And tegra3 is ARM.
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Hi Guys! I read somewhere that compiling need 4Gb Ram! ! ! ! Is it true? I have very old hardware so I'm going to buy a new hardware for start compiling....
thanks
No but it will take alot longer
I compile with 4gigs ram. A little less than 2 hours for full lunch build for 1 device. That's 2 .zips and kernel pieces on Linux Mint 12 no windows. I think those crazy big numbers are needed when you use a virtual machine.
if you dont know linux well id reccomend using ubuntu 10.04 too otherwise you have to mess around with things to get it to build unless they fixed the problems with newer gcc.
Just install Ubuntu 12.04 and build.
The "needs octo-core processor" and "needs infinite RAM" is all just bull****.
But 64-bits is better for building, as 32 - bits needs more packages to install etc etc. And 64-bits means you have more RAM.
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I'm building on these specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.2ghz
2gb RAM
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
It takes around 3 hours to do a fresh build off of a make clobber but to do a rebuild on top on another one it takes around half an hour.
The more ram you have the less time for compilation..plus it also depends on architecture...i.e. i7...
compiling-time mostly depends on the processor.
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Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
6GB RAM
2.5Ghz Quad Core.
64bit
Compiling for one device (supersonic) takes about 30-45mins for me.
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I'm using a laptop with an Intel Pentium Dual Core T4200 with 4 GB of RAM. It takes a little over 3 hours to compile 4.0.4_r2.1 maguro (Galaxy Nexus GSM).
Same build time in Ubuntu 10.04 and Kubuntu 12.04. I just get more errors in 12.04 and had to do more tweaks in the makefiles.
GalaxyNexusPH said:
I'm using a laptop with an Intel Pentium Dual Core T4200 with 4 GB of RAM. It takes a little over 3 hours to compile 4.0.4_r2.1 maguro (Galaxy Nexus GSM).
Same build time in Ubuntu 10.04 and Kubuntu 12.04. I just get more errors in 12.04 and had to do more tweaks in the makefiles.
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A 2.5 quad? I think your slightly exaggerating. When I had a 3.5 quad it was slightly over an hour by a few minutes. You should run time with your build command after a make clobber.
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Quad-Core i5 8GB RAM here, ~47 minutes from a make clobber.
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A 2.5 quad? I think your slightly exaggerating. When I had a 3.5 quad it was slightly over an hour by a few minutes. You should run time with your build command after a make clobber.
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Pentium Dual Core T4200
Its only dual core 2.0 GHZ 800MHZ FSB. Its not even Core I3. Its a low end processor.
$time make CC=gcc-4.4 CXX=g++.4.4 -j4 otapackage
real 167m21.740s
user 283m46.792s
sys 18m27.609
GalaxyNexusPH said:
Pentium Dual Core T4200
Its only dual core 2.0 GHZ 800MHZ FSB. Its not even Core I3. Its a low end processor.
$time make CC=gcc-4.4 CXX=g++.4.4 -j4 otapackage
real 167m21.740s
user 283m46.792s
sys 18m27.609
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I think he meant me there.
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Hi,
I hope this is the right place to ask. I haven't found anything similar until now.
I was experimenting with QEMU, x86 emulator on Android on my Asus Memo FHD tab which is already based on an x86 Atom architecture.
I see way slower speeds (unusable) than I read about arm based counterparts. I assume this is because QEMU assumes ARM architecture and the x86 atom is also emulating ARM.
-Is there an other way to emulate a complete x86 system faster on this architecture?
Thank you!
demodl said:
Hi,
I hope this is the right place to ask. I haven't found anything similar until now.
I was experimenting with QEMU, x86 emulator on Android on my Asus Memo FHD tab which is already based on an x86 Atom architecture.
I see way slower speeds (unusable) than I read about arm based counterparts. I assume this is because QEMU assumes ARM architecture and the x86 atom is also emulating ARM.
-Is there an other way to emulate a complete x86 system faster on this architecture?
Thank you!
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QEMU is extremely slow because it interprets and convferts code on the fly.
You would be better off to burn an iso of this http://sourceforge.net/projects/android-x86/files/Release 4.4/android-x86-4.4-RC1.iso/download
and burn it to usb stick with Unetbootin. THen boot off of that with a pc that can do so.
Lgrootnoob said:
QEMU is extremely slow because it interprets and convferts code on the fly.
You would be better off to burn an iso of this http://sourceforge.net/projects/android-x86/files/Release 4.4/android-x86-4.4-RC1.iso/download
and burn it to usb stick with Unetbootin. THen boot off of that with a pc that can do so.
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Thanks, running x86 virtual OS (Windows) on an android tablet sounded fun and I was just wondering if there is a more efficient solution for systems already based on x86. I guess there isn't.
Thanks!
demodl said:
Thanks, running x86 virtual OS (Windows) on an android tablet sounded fun and I was just wondering if there is a more efficient solution for systems already based on x86. I guess there isn't.
Thanks!
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Well, there is an emulator I use, but it is extremely slow also. We just don't have native virtualization acceleration support on our processors in the phones. Otherwise it would be lightning speed.
Lgrootnoob said:
Well, there is an emulator I use, but it is extremely slow also. We just don't have native virtualization acceleration support on our processors in the phones. Otherwise it would be lightning speed.
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Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600589
Based on the specification the intel Atom Z2560 (x86) cpu supports virtualization, however there is not software to utilize this yet.
I hope this changes, it could be useful.
Looks like someone has already did it. I hope it'll be available for the public.
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZQ-xZfc8NA