Ok, been floating around here for months... I've tried most of the roms out there..
Right now I'm using Cyanogen 7...
It works great, it's fast, 99% of everything works... except... the camera and HW video acceleration...
Which rom should I use if I want 100% of the device to work.
If I switch over to a Vegan 5 rom, the cam works, but then my 32 gig sd card doesn't show up....
So, I'm asking for someones opinion...
What is the best 100% working rom... Plus'es and Minus'es on it, work-arounds?
I can bounce around in a file manager and get things off the sd card, but the kids and wife can't... that's why I haven't stuck with Vegan 5...
Any help/opinion would be great.
Thanks,
Tim
Get "Camera Fun" from marketplace. Works fine on a Gtab using C M 7.
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Rooted stock.
But for family friendly use, its hard to beat. After the market fix that is.
Or VEGAN Ginger 7.0
I am back on rooted 4349 because the kids can use it. VEGAN Ginger seems 40% faster than stock though.
That's what I am/was leaning towards, however I can't figure out how to have the system load from my 32 gig sd instead of the internal...
The kids have movies that eat up the internal rather quickly
Thanks for the reply.
Tim
But netflix works on cm 7 and not on vegan. Cm 7 is the most advanced
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CM7.1 RC1
works the best just replace the DSPmanager with the one from nightly 83
tjsooley said:
CM7.1 RC1
works the best just replace the DSPmanager with the one from nightly 83
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Gets my vote too, everything works great: Netflix, YouTube, games like asphalt 6 etc.
albertgalpin said:
But netflix works on cm 7 and not on vegan. Cm 7 is the most advanced
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Netflix works on vegan GE now with a little tweaking. Check out this helpful post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15147560&postcount=13
C7 better than caulk Clemson v6? I never used CM7. what are the major pros for cm7. This is my first rom. Thx
ONLY a froyo rom will work 100%, since that's the only android source that is available to work from. Ginger and HC are frankensystems, taking code from here and there to get a working OS.
I'm on Calk/Clem v6 1.2 bootloader and everythign is working fine. You'll get hardware acceleration, you'll have a working camera, you'l have access to SDcard. you won't have Netflix, but honestly, people, is the selection of netflix movies that stream really that great? Besides that, you'll need a wifi connection to stream them anyway. You mentioned that you have movies on the SD, then do you really need netflix? I only ever access netflix at home, through my Wii, so, no need for it on the tablet.
besides...check out "megaviewer pro"
Agreed 100 % with Calkulin/Clemsyn combo. Used it for a while until I tried Beasty2.2.a/Clemsyn combo on 1.2bl and stayed there since. Same if not better, and can play PlantsVsZombies.
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ONLY a froyo rom will work 100%, since that's the only android source that is available to work from. Ginger and HC are frankensystems, taking code from here and there to get a working OS.
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See, that's what I thought so I've been looking for a good Froyo rom, but apparently now everyone is going gaga about Vegan GE. Folks claim its just as fast as the froyo edition (most forms of HW acceleration are now working, aside from HD playback if I understand correctly).
Also, wasn't a HC rom released last week for one of the sister tablets to our G-tab (think it was the Adam)? That should mean native driver support for HC.
But honestly, now I don't know what to think, and since I share this tablet with my wife and kids, I can't afford to go testing all the roms out there to find a good one.
you won't have Netflix, but honestly, people, is the selection of netflix movies that stream really that great? Besides that, you'll need a wifi connection to stream them anyway. You mentioned that you have movies on the SD, then do you really need netflix? I only ever access netflix at home, through my Wii, so, no need for it on the tablet.
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See, I hate it when people say that. That's what people say when they want to justify their choices and just accept the lot given to them. Remember when iOS users said they don't really need MMS because they have email? Or that they really didn't need multitasking? But when they got all those things, suddenly they turned from "who needs that" to "look what the iPhone can do!". How many iOS users say they don't really need flash anyway, and secretly loathe that we can do it and they can't?
I'm glad you are happy streaming netflix with your wii. Do you remember last year when that didn't work yet? Every day I would check and see "Coming Soon" on their website. Did you feel like "meh, I don't need it on my Wii- I have it on my laptop!"?
Meanwhile, netflix was actually one of the deciding factors to get a tablet. Right now, when we go on family trips we pack light and bring a netbook for casual browsing and mini-movies. Until I saw netflix running on the G-tablet via a youtube demo a couple of months ago, I didn't consider replacing it with a tablet as an option.
So, you might even say this is rather critical for some people. Heck, I've been stuck on CM7 all this time, which I don't particularly like, for this very reason. Just think before you say stuff like that, you know? Especially if you want folks to trust your opinion.
I got my gtab mostly for watching downloaded videos, web browsing, some gaming. My first rom upgrade was vegan-tab ginger edition. Did not play videos as well as I hoped(choppy). Had some minor issues with sound. I switched to calk/clem ver 5 and videos are smooth and most video players work. I'm not into neflix, but Hulu, Flash, slingplayer, all work. It may not be the best rom, but it works for me.
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I got my gtab mostly for watching downloaded videos, web browsing, some gaming. My first rom upgrade was vegan-tab ginger edition. Did not play videos as well as I hoped(choppy). Had some minor issues with sound. I switched to calk/clem ver 5 and videos are smooth and most video players work. I'm not into neflix, but Hulu, Flash, slingplayer, all work. It may not be the best rom, but it works for me.
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I'd guess that is because of the lack of HW acceleration in Ginger. Seriously, why is everyone running away from Froyo roms? ::scratches head:: what am I missing?
Meanwhile, does calk/clem support BT keyboards? I have a BT keyboard that is working great on the ginger roms I've tried. A little scared it won't work in Froyo...
@Dishe:
The netflix account I use isn't even mine, it's my stepfathers. He got it a while back, to get videos in the mail. Then he started streaming to his laptop. He gave me his password so that I could get it on my Wii. Since then, about Christmas time, I think I may have watched one complete movie at home. I just have never found their selection of streaming videos to be that great that it was an application that I absolutely needed. I usually download movies from ThePirateBay.org and watch them with my netbook connected to my TV.
So, for Me, Netflix isn't an application that I will justify not having by downplaying it. I didn't have it 7 months ago on anything. I tried it, and really couldn't find anything to like about it. When my stepfather offered my his account, I seriously thought that I would be able to rid myself of the over 300 DVDs that I own, because "I could just stream anything on Netflix." Well, I started searching their library for movies that I own, and pretty much none of them were available. So, I can be 100% sure that not having it on my G-Tablet isn't a justification of not being able ot have it. It's a realization that I hardly ever use it on a device that it runs flawlessly on, so it's not remotely necessary on a device that it might be able to run on.
I downloaded Megaviewer pro, which also streams videos, and it can actually find nearly every movie I search for.
I did take my g-tablet on a mini-vacation last week. I had "kidvideos" (good for cartoons for the little ones) and Megaviewer installed on it. I can honestly say that my son never even asked if he could watch a movie on it. The only time we could even consider it was when there was a network around that I could log into, anyway. So, you're anchored, and the selection is minimal.
MAybe if we had 3G capabilities, it might be worth it. But right now, the only place I can stream videos is at home, where netflix works fine on the 52 inch screen...rather than the 10 inch one.
for your BT question...I don't have one to test, but my BT GPS does work on it.
Edit: Oh, and why is everyone running away from Froyo....because it's old news. The tablet community is all about the latest and the greatest. Why did everyone want Vista when XP worked just fine? It's just a mentality that the newest product must be the best product. I never understood it either. I've been using Froyo since getting my tablet, and never even considered Gingerbread, knowing it's limitations. The basis of my opinion is that our devices came with Froyo, has drivers for Froyo, and works 100% with Froyo...
and yes, I'm still on XP, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Fair enough on the netflix thing. But other people love netflix streaming- myself included. I catch up on old TV shows and randomly pick new movies to watch. Something I forgot to mention is that its nice having it on the Tablet because sometimes there's a movie my wife doesn't care for, so I can watch it on my own anywhere instead of hogging the TV or computer. Its nice to watch it on a tablet from bed or the couch or places a laptop would be awkward to use.
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Edit: Oh, and why is everyone running away from Froyo....because it's old news. The tablet community is all about the latest and the greatest. Why did everyone want Vista when XP worked just fine? It's just a mentality that the newest product must be the best product. I never understood it either. I've been using Froyo since getting my tablet, and never even considered Gingerbread, knowing it's limitations. The basis of my opinion is that our devices came with Froyo, has drivers for Froyo, and works 100% with Froyo...
and yes, I'm still on XP, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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See, I just had this conversation with someone in another thread!
Sometimes newer is better- Froyo brought JIT, voice search, and other great features and performance enhancements. Now it works great, and is exactly what our devices came with! But moving on to an unsupported rom just because its newer is EXACTLY like XP to Vista, IMO!
I love to trick out my machine, but at the end of the day I want it to work the best it possibly can. Vista didn't do that, so I stuck with XP until Windows 7 (which, btw, is a fantastic and worthy upgrade from XP). The same is true of tablets, however without continued support from Viewsonic, or Froyo roms from the community (and l0rd knows I don't have the time to pick up development myself anymore), I feel like certain bugs will never get fixed. Skype 2.0, btw, will apparently work with video chat on Gingerbread enabled devices with cameras (not on G-tablet yet, but with Galaxy working within hours of announcing the new Skype, I think it might soon). Between that and Netflix, I'm really not sure what I'd rather anymore.
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Skype 2.0, btw, will apparently work with video chat on Gingerbread enabled devices with cameras (not on G-tablet yet, but with Galaxy working within hours of announcing the new Skype, I think it might soon). Between that and Netflix, I'm really not sure what I'd rather anymore.
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Actually, skype video only work for ONE specific android device. This is not a bug. This is corporate incompetence.
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Actually, skype video only work for ONE specific android device. This is not a bug. This is corporate incompetence.
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Someone hasn't been reading the news...
http://techcitement.com/mobile/skype-2-0-for-android-brings-video/
Dishe...The XP to Win7 analogy is fitting here. Let's take my tiny little Acer Netbook here. Supposedly, it's not able to run win7, due ot hardware limitations. That's exactly the case with the G-Tablet.
Now, if Acer were to develop a way (drivers and such) that I was able ot run Win7, then I would probably switch. The fact is, my netbook was created to run XP, so, I know that XP is the only OS that will run properly on it.
The G-Tablet, has hardware that is CAPABLE of running Gingerbread and Honeycomb, and I assume, eventually Ice Cream Sandwich (why do these nicknames make me hungry?)
The problem, is that Viewsonic/Nvidea have failed at providing the drivers and such that will make it possible to run these newer Android versions.
Sure, I could attempt to install Win7 on my netbook, but then I'll be *****ing and complaining when things don't work, or won't work. Same as if I continue to lie to myself in thinking that Gingerbread or Honeycomb will work flawlessly within the constraints of the hardware that we are using.
I commend the people that try their hardest to get these things working. They do it for the joy of saying that they did it. They provide something to the users that gives them hope that it will eventually be a reality. I truly believe that it will be, as long as Nvidea cooperates, which they said they would, as long as device providers request the drivers...none have, as of yet. We thought that Notion Ink was, but they are using the pieced together rom that tabletroms developed...essentially failing their own community.
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Dishe...The XP to Win7 analogy is fitting here. Let's take my tiny little Acer Netbook here. Supposedly, it's not able to run win7, due ot hardware limitations. That's exactly the case with the G-Tablet.
Now, if Acer were to develop a way (drivers and such) that I was able ot run Win7, then I would probably switch. The fact is, my netbook was created to run XP, so, I know that XP is the only OS that will run properly on it.
The G-Tablet, has hardware that is CAPABLE of running Gingerbread and Honeycomb, and I assume, eventually Ice Cream Sandwich (why do these nicknames make me hungry?)
The problem, is that Viewsonic/Nvidea have failed at providing the drivers and such that will make it possible to run these newer Android versions.
Sure, I could attempt to install Win7 on my netbook, but then I'll be *****ing and complaining when things don't work, or won't work. Same as if I continue to lie to myself in thinking that Gingerbread or Honeycomb will work flawlessly within the constraints of the hardware that we are using.
I commend the people that try their hardest to get these things working. They do it for the joy of saying that they did it. They provide something to the users that gives them hope that it will eventually be a reality. I truly believe that it will be, as long as Nvidea cooperates, which they said they would, as long as device providers request the drivers...none have, as of yet. We thought that Notion Ink was, but they are using the pieced together rom that tabletroms developed...essentially failing their own community.
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We are in agreement.
The design of this thing is awesome. Pair it with those monster 14 pound EACH speakers and man, that's drool worthy.
However, this device is kinda confusing to me. Is it a dumbed down receiver? Is it a dumbed down Google TV device? I can play vids from YouTube and and Google Play and music and that's it?
Where are the shots of what ever interface this will have? Where is Netflix? Huluu Plus? Amazon Prime? This seems to be the most limited - as far as what can be done with it from the get-go - device I have seen El Goog push out in a long while. Sad.
As good as it looks, it seems rushed to me. Why pay $299 for something that is simply novelty and available in many different flavors already?
Till they add a bit to it, or someone hacks it and makes it much better. Sorry Goog, I pass.
While they were doing the presentation, I understood it as it was just a receiver that connects to some speakers or a tv, so once you connect to it (I forget if it was WIFI or NFC) you can just play music or videos on the speakers or tv; and anybody that connects to it is able to play what they want on it.
It looks great and all but for $300 its definitely not worth the price tag.
This is on the network so I hope that it has easy access to Windows shares and that it will be able to play 1080p MKVs with lossless audio.
I haven't played around with playback on devices.
Even though it is pricey if it has this full feature set then I may pick this up. Would be a nice improvement over plugging in a laptop to the TV.
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This is on the network so I hope that it has easy access to Windows shares and that it will be able to play 1080p MKVs with lossless audio.
I haven't played around with playback on devices.
Even though it is pricey if it has this full feature set then I may pick this up. Would be a nice improvement over plugging in a laptop to the TV.
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From what I was told yesterday, it won't. The guys here at IO said it would only stream from them (movies and music stored in their cloud or Play Store).
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I'm hoping there is at least some logic within the box that allows you to play more sophisticated content.
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From what I was told yesterday, it won't. The guys here at IO said it would only stream from them (movies and music stored in their cloud or Play Store).
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It's $300 because it's supposedly actually manufactured in America... so do with that what you will
I'm still very confused as to what it is/how it works. Doesn't seem worthwhile.
seems like the coolest looking piece of crap.
The engadget preview says much of the price is because of the built in amp, which, IMHO is totally unnecessary. I have a surround sound system.. why would I want stereo sound from that puny little thing?
Drop the amp and $100 off the pricetag and this thing will sell itself. Oh, and unlock the damn thing. Only plays stuff from the play store? Google is starting to sound like apple...
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Google is starting to sound like apple...
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Really? It has a USB port explicitly for the purpose of hacking it. I have no doubt the Nexus Q will be a cool device to own once there's enough dev support for it.
It seems like Google released the Nexus Q with the idea that the android community would figure out what to do with it.
Nexus q + dev support = sold. However I will wait for the support first instead of buying and hoping....
Its an interesting device, but I'm disappointed that they at least didn't add an "airplay" style connection for displaying your phone or tablet screen on the tv via wifi. That would at least make it more appealing for the price
I sat there during the keynote thinking what a killer feature this would have been for a google tv. Instead it's a more expensive and more limited device.
I came away from i/o feeling like the google tv is being de-prioritized and they want to push this device instead because it's locked down to google play content. There were zero mentions of google tv during either of the keynotes. There were sessions but after sitting through a few it seemed as if all the new and exciting things were happening in other product lines. I don't mean this as a dig at the google tv devs. I just think the company has made a cooporate decision to lock this down.
Maybe I'll feel a little different after unboxing it tonight and playing with it some but I just can't see myself getting on board this product line and I'm a google fanboy. It just feels like a limitations by design concept.
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Really? It has a USB port explicitly for the purpose of hacking it. I have no doubt the Nexus Q will be a cool device to own once there's enough dev support for it.
It seems like Google released the Nexus Q with the idea that the android community would figure out what to do with it.
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That's cool. But inconsistent. Not everyone is tech savvy enough to even flash anything and I would be more apt to group those individuals with ones who would use the banana plugs on the back. It doesn't take an audiophile to desire more than 2 channels of sound.
I think its a brilliant device and ill probably get one once the price goes down. I just think it may increase sales to offer one without the amp - is it really that big of a selling point?
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That's cool. But inconsistent. Not everyone is tech savvy enough to even flash anything and I would be more apt to group those individuals with ones who would use the banana plugs on the back. It doesn't take an audiophile to desire more than 2 channels of sound.
I think its a brilliant device and ill probably get one once the price goes down. I just think it may increase sales to offer one without the amp - is it really that big of a selling point?
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Agreed. This isn't like our Android phones running custom ROMs. You buy an Android phone, ANY Android phone, and you can:
1. Make phone calls
2. Send text messages
3. Use email
4. Browse the web
5. Download, install, and use the full Play Store catalog of apps
All without any hacking at all. When you install a custom rom, you're basically getting a few added features, customization, optimization, maybe the ability to overclock or run a select few apps that need root. You know, little things that aren't necessary but are nice to have.
The Nexus Q is different because it's gimped right out of the box. You basically can't do anything with it, other than play music and videos from the Play Store only (and who even has a huge collection of that stuff?). Even the very first Apple TV was capable of streaming content through a local network, even if it was limited to stuff you added to your iTunes library.
I appreciate Google reaching out to the dev community, but they can't rely on them to do all their work for them. What the Nexus Q should have been was a tiny Android desktop computer, controllable directly with an Android phone using a specific app (something like Gmote) and able to run any and all Android apps. I'm excited when I see thumb-sized Android computers available for under $100. The NQ could have been a cooler, more premium version of that, but as it is, it's both overpriced AND has no features.
YouTube app
So not living in US forces me to use Music and the YouTube app. Now it's time to do some raging.
Playing youtube vids on my tv is awesome through the app and all that. But I want to be able to play several videos. I have several playlists but the only option on a playlist in the youtube app is to delete it. Opening the playlists gives you the possibility to play one (and only one) video in a row. It really sucks. I don't want to open the app every time a video has ended :/
Guys what are you complaining about? Your where given cool toy for free because you are developers. You are suppose to find better applications for it . Just do it. Few years ago you had T-Mobile android phone without anything useful on it , nobody completed
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All you guys in here complaining are just not dev or inspiring to be one cause from what I seen you're able to load a launcher to it from adb and stream netflix in 1080 so you guys dont really understand android or google yet but you will.
Sadly, I will buy a multitude of these for a project if someone can get the damn thing rooted and unlocked...