Hello everyone,
so i registered yesterday in this forum, know it for a while now but was never useful to me because the "coolest stuff" to do on my LG always was needed to root it and i was (and still am) a bit afraid of doing it, since i dont understand nothing about it but i heard it can mess up your phone. So i thought of posting something here.
So i have a LG P500 and yesterday i updated the firmware or software (dont know how to call it). Now i have the official Gingerbread udpate. I was a bit disappointed as i always wanted to have that locking animation that nexus S has.
Yes, i know you might tell me to use the search button but i looked for something similar and someone said something about rooting the phone to use the CM7.
So what i wanted to know is. What are the pros and cons with rooting. Do i need to "instal" CM7 or something like that to have that lock animation even having the 2.3.3 official update? Do you advice me to root my phone even though i bought it a few months ago?(like march or something)
Im sorry if i should searched a bit more but i think its better to just talk directly with people who understand this phone stuff better then i.
Thank you in advance!
Ps: Im portuguese and i know there are a few portuguese members here, if any of them could help me with this i would appreciate!
I myself upgraded to the LG 2.3 gingerbread firmware v20b
and it sucks to the core
i downgraded to froyo v10e the very next day itself
the pro's of rooting is that
you get access to the core android files
and use your phone to the max
(example overclock, customized ROM's,hardware acceleration etc)
in short you get a much better phone and no lg crap bloatware etc
the con's are
if rooting doesn't go properly you'll end up with a bricked phone
and your warranty will be void
my suggestion is
if your not so much into your cell
i mean you dont use it a lot for 3D gaming and other hi resource using applications
and just need for messaging,music,net
then dont root
else root
and enjoy your phone
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Palmaaa said:
Hello everyone,
was a bit disappointed as i always wanted to have that locking animation that nexus S has.
Yes, i know you might tell me to use the search button but i looked for something similar and someone said something about rooting the phone to use the CM7.
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im sure there are applications
or some launcher which will have what your looking for
Just do it.
I rooted it 3 days after I bought it.
But be careful while doing so, there are chances of bricking your phone.and yes, warranty will be void. But you can, anytime,go back to stock firmware just in case if you want your warranty.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA App
Rooting & link to howto (mostly for my own reference)
Hi,
For me the main advantage of rooting is that you can use a custom recovery (= do nandroid backups) and that you can install different kernels (better performance but mainly better battery life).
I have been on official 2.3.3 since months now (waiting until Andy's Phoenix ROM matures a bit), and I must say that I'm quite happy with it (with LauncherPro of course).
Just be sure to install a good recovery (CWM 4.0.1.5 or so) and that you make a nandroid backup before you flash something new.
Oh and here's the howto I used to root my brother's phone yesterday...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146566#3
And here's a collection of working recovery images (flashable)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197
dryhte said:
Hi,
For me the main advantage of rooting is that you can use a custom recovery (= do nandroid backups) and that you can install different kernels (better performance but mainly better battery life).
I have been on official 2.3.3 since months now (waiting until Andy's Phoenix ROM matures a bit), and I must say that I'm quite happy with it (with LauncherPro of course).
Just be sure to install a good recovery (CWM 4.0.1.5 or so) and that you make a nandroid backup before you flash something new.
Oh and here's the howto I used to root my brother's phone yesterday...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146566#3
And here's a collection of working recovery images (flashable)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197
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So to see if i get it, by "custom recovery" you're saying i can use a "custom image" that someone created to improve my phone?
I didnt quite undestood the nandroid and CWM recovery parts! Im really sorry for all the questions but im still a noob in this area and i was hopping i could get to know a little more about this in this forum!
Ps: thank you all that answered till now!
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Hi, as u said u r novice, & does not know anything.
My suggestion is to use ur cell for few months & search in google & XDA whatever u have doubt. Then understand one by one things.
I am telling because my cell was bricked with doing all these things, I voided warranty & i have to change my entire board for 3,000/-
I think no use with all these rooting & flashing, roms, getting headache with this stuff.
Just use ur phone as it is, & u may install new new softwares & games as market is producing a lot daily.
I have bad experience with all these experiments.
Rooted my p500 successfully ...
Rooting is NOT for novices.
Rooting requires some basic (to slightly advanced) understanding of the way this android software works. It also requires some basic understanding of the way in which kernel, over-clocking etc., work. And, one should also understand the limitations (of hardware, processing power, storage, RAM etc.,) of one's mobile phone.
Thankfully, I rooted my P500 successfully yesterday. And, loaded Titanium Backup and got going in the `rooted mobile' arena.
Removed some unwanted/useless applications like bollywoodji, vaccination tracker, etc., successfully.
i think rooting is a piece of cake. enable debugging mode, connect phone to pc, press the ROOT button
sekhar13515 said:
I am telling because my cell was bricked with doing all these things, I voided warranty & i have to change my entire board for 3,000/-
I think no use with all these rooting & flashing, roms, getting headache with this stuff.
Just use ur phone as it is, & u may install new new softwares & games as market is producing a lot daily.
I have bad experience with all these experiments.
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Actually very few people have bad experiences with rooting and related stuff. Most of us (including me) have done it right, and are enjoying the benefits.. Just follow the instructions carefully and everything will be alright. And make sure that whatever process you do, it is NOT INTERRUPTED in between. That's all.
Also, if you were in the stock froyo firmware, you could have simply rooted using gingerbreak. The 2.3 based firmware can also be rooted, but requires a few more steps, you can search and find out about that.
I would personally suggest not to use ROM manager for installing custom recovery on your P500, because when I used it, my phone got stuck in the fastboot mode. But with a little effort I could make it right.
All the best!
Related
Hey everyone!
I'm new to Android, and am a proud owner of a new Galaxy S II!
I love the phone, but with me being a techy type and gadgety type I've obviously heard a lot about rooting devices and so on.
I've heard a lot of perhaps dubious information about how rooting and removing the Samsung Hubs improves battery life, as well as removing the O2 branding I have on my phone. I'm interested in this but have some questions.
Firstly, are my assumptions above correct? Will I be able to improve battery life? Will rooting remove the branding?
Secondly, does rooting essentially erase the device - will I lose contacts, messages, settings and so on?
Next, does rooting void my Samsung warranty, and does it void my insurance?
I have one other question - in my Settings > About Phone menu, the kernel version is listed as:
2.6.35.7-I9100XWKDD-CL161513
root AT DELL103 #2
What is the last line there mean, the "root AT DELL103 #2" mean? Am I already rooted?
I'm sure these questions seem silly to some, and I'm sorry if these have been answered before. I'm very grateful for any advice from the more experienced Android users.
Happy to be joining you!
Congrats on the new phone! I'm jealous, I live in the US and we are still waiting for the SGSII. Anyway, I can't answer all your questions but I will answer what I know to be true. As far as battery life is concerned, once you root, you will need an app like Titanium Backup from the market to "Freeze" the media hub and other bloatware you don't want. Doing this will stop those programs from running all the time, which will definatly help conserve some juice. Rooting will void warranty, but if you run into any issues which will require you to warranty your phone, you can very easily put it back to stock with Odin. Odin is a tool that allows you to flash factory files and return you back to stock. Rooting will not erase you phone, it will just install an app called "Superuser" which will give you the extra privileges needed to run Titanium Backup and to do other fun stuff. And lastly, your phone is not rooted already, this is just what the Kernel is named. As far as the O2 branding removal, someone else will have to answer that for you, considering we don't have O2 here, sorry. Hopefully this helps in some way. Good luck and welcome to the community!
SGS Fascinate
Evil Fascination ROM
JT's Kernel
ED01 Radio
Rooting:
- won't improve your battery life
- won't delete any of your settings/apps/contacts/messages (or any other data)
- It will void your warranty (you can always reflash the stock firmware to get it back)
- Your Insurance is likely still valid (check with your insurance provider for conformation)
- Your aren't already rooted, mine said that as well, I don't know what it means
- Rooting won't debrand your phone, to do that you'll need to flash a generic firmware (available from one of the SGS2 dev threads on XDA)
I hope that helps you
Matt, the man himself with the amazing guide is here
101matt101 said:
Rooting:
- won't improve your battery life
- won't delete any of your settings/apps/contacts/messages (or any other data)
- It will void your warranty (you can always reflash the stock firmware to get it back)
- Your Insurance is likely still valid (check with your insurance provider for conformation)
- Your aren't already rooted, mine said that as well, I don't know what it means
- Rooting won't debrand your phone, to do that you'll need to flash a generic firmware (available from one of the SGS2 dev threads on XDA)
I hope that helps you
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It does help, on the battery life bit though, surely removing / freezing Samsung crap will improve it a bit? Or is the impact negligible?
If not, then is there much other point to rooting?
gyaku_zuki said:
It does help, on the battery life bit though, surely removing / freezing Samsung crap will improve it a bit? Or is the impact negligible?
If not, then is there much other point to rooting?
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I've made a load of YouTube videos on a) how to root and b) the +/- of rooting. Just search "mattj101101" in YouTube. They explain it far better than I can here. As for battery life, I've noticed no difference after rooting + or -
I recommend subscribing to him also.
Looks like I'm not the only one with the same questions. I do have another question though: after you root the device, can you still use KIES to upgrade to newer firmware or do you have to flash?
Tremium said:
Looks like I'm not the only one with the same questions. I do have another question though: after you root the device, can you still use KIES to upgrade to newer firmware or do you have to flash?
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I'm not sure if this is a blanket answer, but my Kies now says it can't update but since Kies nearly bricked my phone updating to XWKE1, I'm not to bothered, it's a s**t piece of software, Odin is much faster/more stable. I recommend using it.
Thanks guys - I think I'm gonna hold off on rooting until the process for SGSII is more established. Don't want to risk wrecking it just yet! In the meantime I've just taken to ending the Social Hub service.
On a side note, has anyone had a problem playing DRM-free files but the device complaining that "the device is not authorised to play this divx-vod content"? I have completed the VOD registration process but no luck. This is video that was taken on a compact camera, and plays fine on anything else.
Thanks again.
See divx .com and or a post in the FAQs
DRM content via divx register your device to play.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065995
jje
101matt101 said:
I've made a load of YouTube videos on a) how to root and b) the +/- of rooting. Just search "mattj101101" in YouTube. They explain it far better than I can here. As for battery life, I've noticed no difference after rooting + or -
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Followed all your youtube vids, brilliant, I couldnt have rooted without seeing how its done.
Have rooted my previous Nexus One and flashed CM nightlies but Samsung is totally different. The terminology in the rooting post is confusing for someone new to this.
Thanks for your help.
For anyone wanting to root, follow 101matt101 vids on youtube as it is as easy as 1 2 3
greigster said:
Followed all your youtube vids, brilliant, I couldnt have rooted without seeing how its done.
Have rooted my previous Nexus One and flashed CM nightlies but Samsung is totally different. The terminology in the rooting post is confusing for someone new to this.
Thanks for your help.
For anyone wanting to root, follow 101matt101 vids on youtube as it is as easy as 1 2 3
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I know what you mean, I had an HTC Desire and using Unrevoked to root and CWM to flash new rooms/updates is totally different to flashing via Odin.
Hi ,
Please excuse me because I'm n00b at Android hacking and I just need to understand many mysterious things , please help if you can .
My Battery drains despite I bought the phone days ago ! So I decided to install a new ROM and it should solve many problems including the battery one now I have some question :
1. Why installing a new rom must completely WIPE all data/apps/media ! for a phone the GS2 the internal storage is everything , so what to do ! how to backup all apps and their data , camera photos , songs and videos , and why to suffer all that to just install a new rom ??!
2. How to root the phone so I can install a new ROM ? in the CF-Root thread there is no rooted kernel fits my model ( JPKH1 2.3.3 Middle Eastern )
3. Google uses CSC to push updates ( through Samsung ) and uses SIM to determine the Market ( then redirects me to a rubbish Egyptian one which have 10% of the US market apps ) , why is that ? I didn't even get the new market till now.
4. Which ROM to choose ? please don't say "It's up to you " there are tons of them and they look all great, that's another confusing thing .
5. If rooting voids your warranty, and you need to be rooted to use Nandroid to fully backup stock ROM so you can go back to it and use Warrenty ! how come ?
6. Camera is rubbish when talking about Night Recording , even using Full HD recording results a crappy videos , My Ex-iPhone 4 was much better wth only 5MB and 720p only, it has no auto-focus too.
7. Why does google keeps some apps on their market that's labeled "Requires Root" ( MarketEnabler and others )
I hope you 'll help me to understand all this hacking process because I just moved from iPhone
Thanks in Advance
Before posting use search button
1. Use some backup software (I personally use Titanium Backup donate to backup my apps and settings, and MyBackup Pro for sms and call logs)
If you can find a way to install ROMs without wiping ur current stock Rom and data let us know otherwise stop complaining
2. Learn how to use search button
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246131
3. Stop complaining
4. Read user reviews for each Rom, if you are so lazy go and buy a nokia phone
5. You can restore your Stock Rom anytime you want (Actually READ the link i gave you and thank the OP)
6. You know what go and get you iPhone 4 back and stop complaining, there is plenty of apps in Andoid market but i guess you are so lazy to search even for an app
7. Man Rooting allows to some app to unleash it full potential
I hope it was a helpful reply, and btw i got my SGS II 4 days ago, i had an X10 before, pretty decent device, retired now
So welcome to Android, Apple fanboy
aatkco said:
Hi ,
Please excuse me because I'm n00b at Android hacking and I just need to understand many mysterious things , please help if you can .
Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
My Battery drains despite I bought the phone days ago ! So I decided to install a new ROM and it should solve many problems including the battery one now I have some question :
Completely wrong .
1. Why installing a new rom must completely WIPE all data/apps/media ! for a phone the GS2 the internal storage is everything , so what to do ! how to backup all apps and their data , camera photos , songs and videos , and why to suffer all that to just install a new rom ??!
Dont install the rom its your choice . If you bothered to read up you would have backed up first .
2. How to root the phone so I can install a new ROM ? in the CF-Root thread there is no rooted kernel fits my model ( JPKH1 2.3.3 Middle Eastern )
You do not root to install a new rom .
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Read the section regarding versions in the basic instructions ,
3. Google uses CSC to push updates ( through Samsung )
and uses SIM to determine the Market ( then redirects me to a rubbish Egyptian one which have 10% of the US market apps ) , why is that ? I didn't even get the new market till now.
Thats nonsense .Your update is determined by your product code .
4. Which ROM to choose ? please don't say "It's up to you " there are tons of them and they look all great, that's another confusing thing .
Its up to you but you could read the hundreds of what rom to choose posts ,
5. If rooting voids your warranty, and you need to be rooted to use Nandroid to fully backup stock ROM so you can go back to it and use Warrenty ! how come ?
Rooting voids your warranty as does custom roms Samsung rules .
6. Camera is rubbish when talking about Night Recording , even using Full HD recording results a crappy videos , My Ex-iPhone 4 was much better wth only 5MB and 720p only, it has no auto-focus too.
Complain to Samsung .
7. Why does google keeps some apps on their market that's labeled "Requires Root" ( MarketEnabler and others )
They wont work without root market is not a locked down Apple product free choice rules .
I hope you 'll help me to understand all this hacking process because I just moved from iPhone
GO Back .
jje
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aatkco said:
Hi ,
Please excuse me because I'm n00b at Android hacking and I just need to understand many mysterious things , please help if you can .
My Battery drains despite I bought the phone days ago ! So I decided to install a new ROM and it should solve many problems including the battery one now I have some question :
1. Why installing a new rom must completely WIPE all data/apps/media ! for a phone the GS2 the internal storage is everything , so what to do ! how to backup all apps and their data , camera photos , songs and videos , and why to suffer all that to just install a new rom ??!
2. How to root the phone so I can install a new ROM ? in the CF-Root thread there is no rooted kernel fits my model ( JPKH1 2.3.3 Middle Eastern )
3. Google uses CSC to push updates ( through Samsung ) and uses SIM to determine the Market ( then redirects me to a rubbish Egyptian one which have 10% of the US market apps ) , why is that ? I didn't even get the new market till now.
4. Which ROM to choose ? please don't say "It's up to you " there are tons of them and they look all great, that's another confusing thing .
5. If rooting voids your warranty, and you need to be rooted to use Nandroid to fully backup stock ROM so you can go back to it and use Warrenty ! how come ?
6. Camera is rubbish when talking about Night Recording , even using Full HD recording results a crappy videos , My Ex-iPhone 4 was much better wth only 5MB and 720p only, it has no auto-focus too.
7. Why does google keeps some apps on their market that's labeled "Requires Root" ( MarketEnabler and others )
I hope you 'll help me to understand all this hacking process because I just moved from iPhone
Thanks in Advance
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Hi, sounds like to me your not ready to start flashing roms and rooting.
First get used to your new device and read some more on these forums. Then maybe in a couple of months if you still want to flash a custom rom, when your more familiar with android, choose a rom and flash away. If your not happy with the rom you choose you can always flash another.
As for the battery drain problem, maybe you have install an app that is causing the problem? Or maybe you have installed many apps the require a lot of data connections? I'm not sure how long you're battery is lasting and if it is normal but it does depend a lot on how you use your device and how you have it setup to your needs.
Anyway, welcome to android and I hope in time after some basic research you will be happy with your device.
I recommend the OP and any newbie searches and reads the forum extensively, that is what i done when i first joined XDA and flashed my first WINMO ROM when the flash was successful without any hiccups i felt more confident to play around a bit more, it's all about reading up and educating yourself on here and in no time you'll be flying.
Didn't expect to see some AGGRESSIVE replies ! "Stop Complaining" , "lazy .. lazy .. lazy" seriously if you don't want to reply or find this thread stupid enough, just ignore it !!
aatkco said:
Didn't expect to see some AGGRESSIVE replies ! "Stop Complaining" , "lazy .. lazy .. lazy" seriously if you don't want to reply or find this thread stupid enough, just ignore it !!
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Well, that's just the way some android users are. Like Apple fanboys but then for android.
If they found out themselves, they demand it from others as well because they are the only standard according to themselves.
If you mention some feature of an iPhone, they see you as an evil dragon and try to slay you publicly to win some applause from their likeminded buddies, it gives then happy feelings at night.
If you ask a n00b question, you will be fried, because they were never n00bs. Their DNA is written in Java-code. Yours is not and you should be punished for that.
I guess all the flashing morphed their brain into binary thinking as well. You are either a fellow angel in Paradise S2™ or the devil, there is no in between. Just ignore it or flame back if you have no life as well.
To get your answers, wait for a helpful reply, spend a considerable amount of time searching or go the trial-and-error way. Your pick. Good luck.
aatkco said:
Didn't expect to see some AGGRESSIVE replies ! "Stop Complaining" , "lazy .. lazy .. lazy" seriously if you don't want to reply or find this thread stupid enough, just ignore it !!
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I see it more and more these days. I think it's because there is more kids on these days. Just ignore it.
Hello my friend,
I am new to all of this myself, but I will try and help you out as best I can.
1. I believe that you need to wip and clear everything so that the ROM works well, without any force closes and boot loops. I highly recommend wiping everything before installing a new rom.
I use titanium to backup everything. It works very well.
2. I believe CF-root does have a KH1 kernel. It is the easiest way to root. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AND FOLLOW EVERYTHING TO THE LETTER.
3. Don’t know. (perhaps its your carrier who is delaying the update???)
4. I am currently using Batista rom, it works very well. I will try MIUI and Cyanogen when they are out of beta. Im sure there are other roms that other prefer but for the moment im sticking with Batista.
5. From what I have understood, even after a NANDROID backup there is some sort of a ROM counter that can tell that you have flashed a different ROM. But I believe that, this can be reset using a JIG (I recommend buying a USB Jig, to me, it’s the easiest way to remove the yellow triangle)
6. I don’t know, I honestly love the cam and the 1080 vid recording.
7. Because google is OPEN? As long as its not a virus or anything I guess you can put up what every you want.
I recommend doing a NANDROID and titanium backup before flashing a new ROM.
Hope all of this helps. If I am not correct, could someone please correct me, I myself am new to android flashing. I had a htc legend before, I tried to root the bloody thing, but I have never succeeded HTC locked it down like hell, it’s for that reason that I own a GS2 and not a sensation (I realize that some people have easily rooted the legend, but I have never managed).
Wow, a lot of rude replies in here. Would have thought the android community would welcome a new member.
I hope you 'll help me to understand all this hacking process because I just moved from iPhone
Thanks in Advance
1- if your a noob (like me ) then don't flash a rom just flash cf-root kernel and get your root privileges without wiping.
2- First. if you had read the CF-Root Thread you would have come across this paragraph and you wouldn't have asked this question:
Chainfire said:
The XX and OXA identifiers are not that important. Usually a "KG1" kernel is a "KG1" kernel, and that is that. Sometimes (pretty rare) it happens there will be multiple different kernels with the same name in different firmwares, that are actually different. If this happens, they are usually only very minor changes and you should expect them to still be fully compatible. I include the "XX" and "OXA" identifiers so the very advanced users can deduce from which full firmware I have taken the kernel file.
Don't worry too much, just find the matching download and use it. What if there is no matching download ? You can ask me to make one, but I can tell you right now, I very very rarely make CF-Root's for kernels on request, unless it is the very latest kernel that has been released by Samsung. In the latter case, be sure to let me know. If there's no match and I'm not making one, try finding the closest match. You should treat "KG1" as a number, but instead of 1-9, we have 1-9, A-Z (where A would be 10, and Z would be 35). "KG2" is really close to "KG1", "KF1" is not close to "KG1" at all. I hope that makes sense.
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3- use market enabler. and for the market app go to the android apps forum in xda and look for a thread about android market 3.1.3 download. i am in the same situation here but market enabler while choosing an American network works.
4- STAY ON STOCK. not that many roms are stable which means that you will have to wipe your phone a lot until one day the super ultra stable rom is out. plus if you want extra functionality you can try go launcher ex (the one im using) or any other launcher.
ps: you also get official updates from Samsung if you stay on the stock rom which is a big plus (no wipez).
5- dont worry, here in the arab countries they're not that strict on checking if you had rooted your device before or not. if you need to use your warranty you can just search for the steps to reseting the counter for the number of unsecure kernels that have been flashed.
6-if you like the Iphones camera better. Then get an iphone.... really no advice to give here. sorry..
7- Google (unlike apple) is not anti hacking. its your choice if you want to get root access to your device or not. and they dont encourage you or discourage you from that.
my advice to you is to root your phone (CF-root) and then install anttek app manager or titanium backup (i like the first's gui better) and freeze any app that you dont need.
also you can check out the app "screen filter" which you can use to dim your display so that it doesn't use that much battery.
also after you root use nofrills cpu control or setcpu and set the max cpu clock frequency to 800 and the govenor to conservative. change it back to 1.2 ghz and ondemand when you need to play an hd game or something like that.
ensha2allah tethanna fel jehaz. o etha mesh 3ajbak raj3o bsr3a o estanna al iphone 5. ana al9ara7a ma shayef feeh wala 3eeb wa7ed bas al denya wejhat na6'ar. salam
meranto said:
Well, that's just the way some android users are. Like Apple fanboys but then for android.
If they found out themselves, they demand it from others as well because they are the only standard according to themselves.
If you mention some feature of an iPhone, they see you as an evil dragon and try to slay you publicly to win some applause from their likeminded buddies, it gives then happy feelings at night.
If you ask a n00b question, you will be fried, because they were never n00bs. Their DNA is written in Java-code. Yours is not and you should be punished for that.
I guess all the flashing morphed their brain into binary thinking as well. You are either a fellow angel in Paradise S2™ or the devil, there is no in between. Just ignore it or flame back if you have no life as well.
To get your answers, wait for a helpful reply, spend a considerable amount of time searching or go the trial-and-error way. Your pick. Good luck.
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Sparksltd said:
I see it more and more these days. I think it's because there is more kids on these days. Just ignore it.
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dayloon said:
Wow, a lot of rude replies in here. Would have thought the android community would welcome a new member.
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Thanks all for cute replies you gave me hope.
dork05 said:
Hello my friend,
I am new to all of this myself, but I will try and help you out as best I can.
1. I believe that you need to wip and clear everything so that the ROM works well, without any force closes and boot loops. I highly recommend wiping everything before installing a new rom.
I use titanium to backup everything. It works very well.
2. I believe CF-root does have a KH1 kernel. It is the easiest way to root. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AND FOLLOW EVERYTHING TO THE LETTER.
3. Don’t know. (perhaps its your carrier who is delaying the update???)
4. I am currently using Batista rom, it works very well. I will try MIUI and Cyanogen when they are out of beta. Im sure there are other roms that other prefer but for the moment im sticking with Batista.
5. From what I have understood, even after a NANDROID backup there is some sort of a ROM counter that can tell that you have flashed a different ROM. But I believe that, this can be reset using a JIG (I recommend buying a USB Jig, to me, it’s the easiest way to remove the yellow triangle)
6. I don’t know, I honestly love the cam and the 1080 vid recording.
7. Because google is OPEN? As long as its not a virus or anything I guess you can put up what every you want.
I recommend doing a NANDROID and titanium backup before flashing a new ROM.
Hope all of this helps. If I am not correct, could someone please correct me, I myself am new to android flashing. I had a htc legend before, I tried to root the bloody thing, but I have never succeeded HTC locked it down like hell, it’s for that reason that I own a GS2 and not a sensation (I realize that some people have easily rooted the legend, but I have never managed).
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Thanks for your helpful reply, I guess I've learned a lot so far.
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maddada said:
I hope you 'll help me to understand all this hacking process because I just moved from iPhone
Thanks in Advance
1- if your a noob (like me ) then don't flash a rom just flash cf-root kernel and get your root privileges without wiping.
2- First. if you had read the CF-Root Thread you would have come across this paragraph and you wouldn't have asked this question:
3- use market enabler. and for the market app go to the android apps forum in xda and look for a thread about android market 3.1.3 download. i am in the same situation here but market enabler while choosing an American network works.
4- STAY ON STOCK. not that many roms are stable which means that you will have to wipe your phone a lot until one day the super ultra stable rom is out. plus if you want extra functionality you can try go launcher ex (the one im using) or any other launcher.
ps: you also get official updates from Samsung if you stay on the stock rom which is a big plus (no wipez).
5- dont worry, here in the arab countries they're not that strict on checking if you had rooted your device before or not. if you need to use your warranty you can just search for the steps to reseting the counter for the number of unsecure kernels that have been flashed.
6-if you like the Iphones camera better. Then get an iphone.... really no advice to give here. sorry..
7- Google (unlike apple) is not anti hacking. its your choice if you want to get root access to your device or not. and they dont encourage you or discourage you from that.
my advice to you is to root your phone (CF-root) and then install anttek app manager or titanium backup (i like the first's gui better) and freeze any app that you dont need.
also you can check out the app "screen filter" which you can use to dim your display so that it doesn't use that much battery.
also after you root use nofrills cpu control or setcpu and set the max cpu clock frequency to 800 and the govenor to conservative. change it back to 1.2 ghz and ondemand when you need to play an hd game or something like that.
ensha2allah tethanna fel jehaz. o etha mesh 3ajbak raj3o bsr3a o estanna al iphone 5. ana al9ara7a ma shayef feeh wala 3eeb wa7ed bas al denya wejhat na6'ar. salam
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Thanks a lot for your reply, it was really helpful , however the reason I asked about the camera is the 3rd party apps, as example iPhone 4 have an app called Camera+ ( AVailable in the App store ) that take even more better shots than original Camera.app
we gazak allah kher 3ala el rad we isa a3mel root now we el battery bas da3efa gedan ma3aya , msh 3aref yemken 3ashan chinese-made , salam
dayloon said:
Wow, a lot of rude replies in here. Would have thought the android community would welcome a new member.
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This is XDA Developers, not an Android community.
The title implies you have a grasp of what is Android and I say this in a friendly manner... there are zillions of threads where everything is explained very well, just take the time to read everything. After one week of reading you will have all your answers in hand.
Hello i know the title seems an awful lot like a dating website info but basically i have been researching androids and stuff for hours on ends and i do not understand the jargon!! i need some simple answers please
I have a Galaxy Ace and i hope someone can answer questions such as
what is rooting and what can it do?
what is updating firmware because i fink i should update to 2.3.5 but does this mean i cant root if i update?
what is custom ROMs and what can they do?
At what stage do i back up my phone e.g. before i root or after i root? before i update or after i update?
I will be very very grateful and plz dont direct me to other links because i have read hundreds of them and all of them explain in too much detail.
Thank You.
See here: http://droidlessons.com/what-is-rooting-on-android-the-advantages-and-disadvantages/ and here: http://www.androidauthority.com/roo...e-to-root-your-android-phone-or-tablet-10915/. Sorry , too long to explain.
Rooting is forcing the phone to allow you access to the internal files of the phone (like the root directory of a hard drive)
Once you have access to the root you can do things that neither android / your service provider wanted you to play with.
Change fonts, modify the teeny system images, allow programs to do (dangerous) system changes to your phone.
Changing the firmware is not something I've played with but, say your phone comes to you with version 1 on it, and version 2 is released in Japan. Well some of the cleverer out there pick and poke and make working versions and then put them up, sometime months before people like o2 orange vodafone have put them into testing / marketing / production / helplines etc.
I'm pretty sure that rooting can affect warranty.
Changing the firmware definately will.
IMO rooting was needed on my x10i before 2.3.3 came out as the Sony Ericsson stuff was eating battery life. Now, its massively sorted out. No need to root.
But I'm not much of a tinkerer
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KelvinMead said:
I'm pretty sure that rooting can affect warranty.
Changing the firmware definately will.
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Just rooting alone WILL void your warranty. No flashing of roms is required.
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anz2k8 said:
At what stage do i back up my phone e.g. before i root or after i root? before i update or after i update?
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You backup your device after you root but before you install a custom rom. To root your device, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034145.
Warning: Do not attempt this until you fully understand the risks and you know exactly what you are doing.
thanx for da links and simple explanations
it helped me understand rooting alot more however custom ROM is still a grey area.. and when should i update to gingerbread.. before or after rooting?
i ask this because i'm seeing rooting similar as chipping a psp where you need the right official firmware before you chip it.. so i'm thinking i will need a certain firmware for a certain root.
also.. i was wondering which is the best overall firmware i should go to ; 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5? i am thinking the 2.3.5 as it is the latest but new doesn't always mean best as it could have untested bugs etc.
Thank You
anz2k8 said:
thanx for da links and simple explanations
it helped me understand rooting alot more however custom ROM is still a grey area.. and when should i update to gingerbread.. before or after rooting?
i ask this because i'm seeing rooting similar as chipping a psp where you need the right official firmware before you chip it.. so i'm thinking i will need a certain firmware for a certain root.
also.. i was wondering which is the best overall firmware i should go to ; 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5? i am thinking the 2.3.5 as it is the latest but new doesn't always mean best as it could have untested bugs etc.
Thank You
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You should update to Gingerbread after rooting (with a custom rom). Custom roms are simply roms made unofficially (not from manufacturers or service providers) by developers. You could update to 2.3.7 with this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263292. After you root and install a custom recovery, then you can start flashing roms.
google is your friend..use him
he wont hurt u
I am also curious about the new updates, i suppose it all depends on if the rom you have can handle it? I'm using coredroid on my HTC Sensation
Hi Guys as my title Says..
i need Help very Badly.
First of all MODS and USERS i'm sorry i didn't knew where to post this thread so if its in in-appropriate section please move it to correct section. THanks
OK my problem is this.
i recently (less than a week ago ) bought a Samsung Galaxy S2 its by Bell Canada and its i9100M. i bought it online since my service provider is Rogers.
i guess this phone is already rooted to unlock it and i can see CWM and SU icon there.
Well i'm a Hardcore Blackberry Fan and have been using Blackberries from last 6 years. I loved the new samsung because of it looks and its screen.
I Had Lot of Problem with it like setting up my yahoo as push email, setting the Ringtone Profile, setting up the Custom Ringtones for Text Messages..
Having wrong time stamps on Recieved TEXT Message.. well i fixed all those by installing apps from market and forwarding my yahoo to my gmail...
i Hated doing all that but infront of the beauty of this phone i had to compromise but today it took 3 hours to find my gps location and day by day im using it i'm hating it .....
SO OK I DID MY RESEARCH AND FOUND OUT ALOT... the more i'm researching the more i'm getting confused...
first of all what is the difference between custom ROM and KERNEL.
i know custom rom could be like operating system but customized by unofficial person.
what the h is KERNEL..
to install rom's or kernel do i really have to root.
To unlock do i have to root or is there a paying method.
also i want to know if i'll go back to stock rom can i still unlock it.and recieve all the updates from samsung or google specially when ICS will be launched.
after unlocking and installing custom root. can i unroot it
and lastly which is best custom kernel and which is the best rom availble.
since been a blackberry user i have very basic needs. i don't play any games or download much apps and if an app is paid..i'll pay for it.. i don't want to jailbreak anything .
all i need is better battery life, gps and network coverage.
Thanks for taking time to read and reply.
Hi there.
I'll try and get through your questions as simply as possible,
Imagine your phone is like a car
A kernel is like the engine of a car - it's the low level machinery that keeps it going.
The Rom is like the body of the car around the engine. Roms can be official (or Stock Roms), or they can be customised by other people.
So, when you install a stock rom - you're installing the kernel, but you're also installing the radio (called a modem or baseband) and the registration (or the CSC which is location specific information) as well as the unique 'body' of the car for that rom - tweaks, default software, etc.
You don't have to have rooted your phone to install a Rom. When you update your phone via Kies, you are, literally, installing an stock rom. You can even install stock roms from elsewhere without rooting your phone. Because stock roms are released in different regions at different times, lots of people update their phones to the latest official roms via this method - no root required.
However, to install a custom, unofficial rom, you will need to root your phone as they will require access to the 'root level directory' of your phone's file system - which is what root really means.
You can find everything you need to know about that, how to root and also lots of stock roms you can install without rooting here:
Some shops will root you phone for you if you want to go down that path and don't want to risk it. But it's easier than you think and the galaxy s2 is very hard to break. There's lots of help available on XDA - just remember to search before you ask so you don't ask a common question the millionth time.
If you have installed a custom rom you can easily re-install a stock rom over it that will still work with Kies and thus be updateable when ICS turns up.
There is no 'best' Rom or kernel. Some Roms go 'as is' and some are customisable to the nth degree if you like fiddling with your phone non-stop. I personally use CheckRom because I like the kitchen app that lets you swap kernels, modems and mods with ease - but check out the Original Android Development threads and see which other roms you like the sound of.
Depending on what you are currently running, a new rom - even a stock one if you're running a very old one - could easily help with battery and range issues. For GPS - try installing FasterFix from the market and see if reassigning your GPS fix to a closer location helps.
Best of luck - it's a great phone once you open up its possibilities
Thanks a lot for the reply
well your reply did help me a lot...
my phone is been already rooted by someone else already from the person i bought it....
as for searching i did a lot.. and its been confusing me more and more ..well thanks for your answer
also as u said S2 is hard to break..i guess u mean is that the JIG thing on EBAY
and as for flashing the stuff i've played with other stuff just not android thing ive replaced the os on BB and jailbreaked iphones and installed macintosh on HP PC and also worked on most of the languages 10 years ago... and i believe nothing is impossible so going to someone else is never an option for me
just want to know as much as stuff i can before going further
well i have few more questions
how can i find which rom or kernel is already installed...
i mean is it possible to tell if its stock or its customized and its customized by which group.
and one last thing.. u know the words u used modem and baseband...
i read about it before...
but my question is ...
IS THE BASEBAND ANYTHING LIKE IPHONE BASEBAND???
u know in iPhones when baseband is updated u r screwed sometimes its hard to jailbreak and definately hard to unlock and reverting changes to baseband....
is it the samething in Galaxy S2 as well...
Thanks a lot for replying...i really appreciate all the time you took to reply.
Thanks once again.
Yeah baseband is the code that handles the phone part of your smartphone. Talking to your wireless provider, 3G, texts all these things are done by baseband.
Flashing a different baseband won't screw your root, and you'd still be rooted. Samsung doesn't make it hard to root as Apple does to jailbreaking. Even if something goes wrong with a new version, you can always revert back to old one using Odin(Samsung ROM flashing tool) and you are good to go.
Thanks a lot... about that quick reply...
i'm gonna collect more information and hopefully i'll be flashing it on weekend...
but how can i find which rom or kernel is already installed...
i mean is it possible to tell if its stock or its customized and its customized by which group
Everything you need to know can be found here. Most of it, anyway.
Backup your device with cwm when rooted ... So you can always restore to previous state. ;-)
Good luck there. But reading is a must.
SGS II - XDA
blackberryfan said:
thanks a lot... About that quick reply...
I'm gonna collect more information and hopefully i'll be flashing it on weekend...
But how can i find which rom or kernel is already installed...
In your dialer type *#1234#
info will apear. Now read chainfire's tutorial how to root your device ....
I mean is it possible to tell if its stock or its customized and its customized by which group
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sgs ii - xda
also you can go settings - about phone - then look at the bottom fields to see kernel, baseband and build. Quote those and we should be able to tell what you have.
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Hi everyone,
I am new to the android world having just bought a galaxy s2, so please be gentle. I'm a previous iphone owner and always hated the restrictions apple put on their phones and dictated the way I could use my handset! I've since moved over to android and my first impressions are OMFG, how confusing is all of this!! I'm not techphobic by any means but I am struggling to piece together how the world of android works and I have spent a lot of time reading various things about ROMs, rooting, flashing, kernels etc... but I am getting more and more confused!
I recently bought a Galaxy S2 which is running a custom ICS ROM on it (resurrection remix 1.0) and also has CWM on it. Having looked at the forums i can see that another version in out (1.3 i believe) but i'm very hesitant to try a flash as i dont want to screw my phone.
The way I see it i've got two choices, either try and reset the phone to stock so that warranty etc... remains uneffected and then update to ics through kies when its available or try and install a later version of one the ics ROM's that are availabe. I was wondering to that end if you lovely people coudl give me some guidance.
If I were to reset my phone to stock how do i do this bearing in mind i am confused about
a) what kernels are in the first place and
b) which one i woudl need for my phone and will I need a usb jig for this?
c) -i need to unroot my phone to return it to stock and if so how do i do this
also:
-what is the difference between an insecure and secure kernal
-if i flash my phone to a newer version of ics can i revert back to 1.0 as at the mo apart from the odd app crashing here and there I'm not having any probs with it.
I'm reading about GAPPS and APKs and dont know what the hell these are either but they keep popping up every so often.....basically i'm confused and on the verge of a breakdown!!
Please could somebody help mw with this and massive apologies if i've posted where i shoudnt have.
Thanks in advance
Saf
If you had taken the same time took for typing here to search and read you would have learnt almost everything...
go through these stiky threads
also see my links in singnature.......read as much as possible....no other substitute for reading and learning, nobody will answer you in essays like you typed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544657
Appreciate what you're saying mate and thank you for taking the time to reply. I have been reading various threads over the last day or so but the problem is when something like this which is quite techinical is completely new territory you dont know where to start. Google throws up page after page of stuff that doesnt make much sense and i've searched on the forums here and read up on quite a bit but again am not sure if i've grasped it.
problem is I didnt install the custom ROM on the phone, i bought it like this and to do anything further with it i dont know if i need to go back to the original owner with more questions or can i just go ahead and start tinkering with it without knowing what software was originally on the phone? (bearing in mind that various posts state that you need certain software which is as close to the original one as possible)
Thanks anyway
Saf
this is the stage which passed by all the noobs including me, dont worry
Your strating treble will only be over when you start flashing a ROM,
cool.
ima go ahead and try and install version 1.3 of resurrestion remix! Wish me luck hehe!!
Good luck,
dont forget to follow the steps mentioned the ROM thread atleast...