i had been using dell streak for last 4 mnths, but still cldnt find video calling app for dell streak over 3G, i'm concern with 3g video call not data call (like skype or fring).
whilie googling i read somewhere tht android doesnt support this calling facility , but my bro has Samsung Galaxy S which has inbuilt 3G video calling with phone application.
Does anybody knw how can i do 3G video calling through dell streak??
or suggest any remedy over this??
thnx in advance
exactly no comments till now ???
guys we need ur help here !!!!!!!!
Even my previous older phones (Samsung Omnia, Samsung Omnia 2) had this option but it's not possible with the Streak. I've asked the same question a long time ago and nobody replied really, it's just possible if someone ports the (video)call app from the Galaxy S or Galaxy tab or maybe another android phone. android 2.3/gingerbread will support SIP calling but that's a whole different story...
Alternate solutions are QIK, TANGO, FRING but then you still depend on software on both sides and app/service needs to be running on both and need to be in an area that supports data ofcourse...
I use ooVoo. I use it to call to my pc and I've used it tho video call a an evo
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hey, try the new fring or Tango. they both work over 3g
guys, he's talking about carrier supported video calls which isn't available in the US. Fring/tango/oovoo etc use data and go through the apps servers, where as what he's talking about it just counts against your minutes i.e. uses no data.
To the OP, i'd contact your wireless carrier and dell and see what they come up with. I haven't been overseas in a while so never looked it up.
guys, 'm talking abt 3g video calling supported by carrier operator and not abt fring, oovoo which operate on data
In 3G video calling u can do video call to any other person using 3G video call enable phone having 3g video calling facility provided by operator.
You dont need any data interface like gprs, 3g data, hspa or wifi juss need 3g video call enabled in service and a 3g video call enabled phone like samsung galaxy S android, nokia 5800 for symbian.
this video not to specific to any platform, software and can only work on 3g phone to 3g phone
I believe the op is talking about video calls over the cellular network like we were able to do over some older phone or modern home video phone not over the 3G network itself.
It is slightly confusing because he is asking for video over 3G not data when our Data is our 3G and vice versa. They are one in the same. If you do not have a data plan you do not have a 3G plan. You have purely a GSM cellular plan. (or CDMA depending upon your carrier)
I do not think any of the android phone at the moment (other then the Sammy now that you brought it up, but I dont know firsthand) are capable of video calls over the cellular network without using our data. Over wifi yes, but not over the cell network like we used to with the old Nokias and some of the older winmo devices.
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msgnyc said:
I believe the op is talking about video calls over the cellular network like we were able to do over some older phone or modern home video phone not over the 3G network itself.
It is slightly confusing because he is asking for video over 3G not data when our Data is our 3G and vice versa. They are one in the same. If you do not have a data plan you do not have a 3G plan. You have purely a GSM cellular plan. (or CDMA depending upon your carrier)
I do not think any of the android phone at the moment (other then the Sammy now that you brought it up, but I dont know firsthand) are capable of video calls over the cellular network without using our data. Over wifi yes, but not over the cell network like we used to with the old Nokias and some of the older winmo devices.
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its not any older technology...3g video call is possible on cellular network only after UMTS techology...by using H264 protocol...its not available on 2nd generation GSM network n these video call works w/o data usage operator has pulse based billing for these videocalls....n almost every symbian based smart phone frm N97 to N8 has this facility available...even android base samsung galaxy s has this....as u dont knw abt this thr4 u might confused.
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its not any older technology...3g video call is possible on cellular network only after UMTS techology...by using H264 protocol...its not available on 2nd generation GSM network n these video call works w/o data usage operator has pulse based billing for these videocalls....n almost every symbian based smart phone frm N97 to N8 has this facility available...even android base samsung galaxy s has this....as u dont knw abt this thr4 u might confused.
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i know what his talking about.when u go to make a call it should give two options
voice call
video call
since it has a front facing camera .
in the uk this option was available on many networks but hardly people would use it because it was expensive also u had to be in a place where u have a strong network connection and a phone which supports the feature .
not only samsung, also with GD910 LG phone watch u can videocall
But india right now only my operator bsnl is providing [email protected] paisa/min which us quite cheap as of now
Which I cab use..
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Still no solution to the 3G native calls
Hi All devs,
Could you please help us out here. Can somebody port the phone.apk from Galaxy S to Streak so that we can get the same option of video calling over UMTS.
Any help would be much appreciated.
The video calling feature has been removed by Google from Android OS version 4.0 and above. Why? Ask them. You still have it in Samsung devices because it has been added by Samsung, not because the stock Android OS (made by Google) would support it. For your Dell Streak, apparently,they chose to go with the original ROM made by Google. So..that's why. And about how to enable it...I honestly don't know. Still looking for a solution myself.
Ahh, but by that statement video calling via 3G should be an option in the Streak, since the Streak was on Gingerbread at the time the thread was created. It's not. Meaning either Google never had the capability in the first place or Dell had it removed from the stock ROM.
Regardless, it's not an option on the Streak, and to add it I believe would require some reverse engineering. I don't think it would be quite as simple as decompiling framework-res.apk and making changes to XML files, like what I did to get the network location service active on my cheap-a$$ Coby tablet.
IM not a Dev but a noob and I'll try to upload it and give talk link
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i had been using dell streak for last 4 mnths, but still cldnt find video calling app for dell streak over 3G, i'm concern with 3g video call not data call (like skype or fring).
whilie googling i read somewhere tht android doesnt support this calling facility , but my bro has Samsung Galaxy S which has inbuilt 3G video calling with phone application.
Does anybody knw how can i do 3G video calling through dell streak??
or suggest any remedy over this??
thnx in advance
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In sri lanka 3G video calling is provided by some carrier operators. And call charges are same as normal voice calls. My old phone Nokia 3120c had this facility and i used it sometimes. Now im also finding a way to do video calls with my android. I dont know about mobile phone technology, but i think it is not a hardware thing. May be a simple app can do it.
bump, how do I hack and enable a video call option?
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Folks, please give me a hand!
I have the Note from Rogers Canada, upgraded to CM9 release, my provider is Fido, and I'm struggling with getting VoIP work over 3G.
1. Native ICS client. It's OK on WiFi, and on 3G the call is being established in and out, but no sound either direction. I heard 3G calling was blocked in GB client, and there was even a method tweaking the APK to make it work, but obviously something is very different in ICS - that tweak is not applicable - I can't find proper file in this APK.
2. cSipSimple - does not work at all, makes the phone acting weird. Well, last update was in 2011, maybe not compatible with ICS at all.
3. SipDroid - crashes.
4. Dell Voice - crashes.
My provider is freephoneline.ca, and I'm testing VoIP with it without success. I'm a network engineer with rich VoIP experience, and run at home a sophisticated FreePBX setup accessible from Internet. I've tried to register my Note on my home PBX as an extension, and I see same behavior - phones ring, calls establish, but no sound.
I don't understand where's the trouble exactly. Is it the Note, or CM9, or my provider is allowing SIP but blocking RTP? I see that all three Fido's APNs are doing NAT, because the phone shows the registered IP that is different from what I see in whatismyip. Could it be the problem? Problems with NATting RTP usually result in no inbound voice, but outbound should be OK...
I wonder if there's a packet sniffer for Android so I could check the traces, LOL.
Whoever has some success doing SIP calling over Rogers/Fido 3G, please help me out.
Thanks!
Shameless self-bump.
Guys, I wonder if nobody knows, or nobody cares? I know it's most likely wrong forum to ask, please push me in right direction...
esokolov said:
Folks, please give me a hand!
I have the Note from Rogers Canada, upgraded to CM9 release, my provider is Fido, and I'm struggling with getting VoIP work over 3G.
1. Native ICS client. It's OK on WiFi, and on 3G the call is being established in and out, but no sound either direction. I heard 3G calling was blocked in GB client, and there was even a method tweaking the APK to make it work, but obviously something is very different in ICS - that tweak is not applicable - I can't find proper file in this APK.
2. cSipSimple - does not work at all, makes the phone acting weird. Well, last update was in 2011, maybe not compatible with ICS at all.
3. SipDroid - crashes.
4. Dell Voice - crashes.
My provider is freephoneline.ca, and I'm testing VoIP with it without success. I'm a network engineer with rich VoIP experience, and run at home a sophisticated FreePBX setup accessible from Internet. I've tried to register my Note on my home PBX as an extension, and I see same behavior - phones ring, calls establish, but no sound.
I don't understand where's the trouble exactly. Is it the Note, or CM9, or my provider is allowing SIP but blocking RTP? I see that all three Fido's APNs are doing NAT, because the phone shows the registered IP that is different from what I see in whatismyip. Could it be the problem? Problems with NATting RTP usually result in no inbound voice, but outbound should be OK...
I wonder if there's a packet sniffer for Android so I could check the traces, LOL.
Whoever has some success doing SIP calling over Rogers/Fido 3G, please help
Thanks!
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I had a similar setup on Telus, and everything works alright. And then I tried Rogers 3G, there is only one way audio, I can't hear anything. But the other side can hear me. And also, my phone can't receive incoming either.
It's probably a problem/restriction with Rogers.
thunderzhao said:
I had a similar setup on Telus, and everything works alright. And then I tried Rogers 3G, there is only one way audio, I can't hear anything. But the other side can hear me. And also, my phone can't receive incoming either.
It's probably a problem/restriction with Rogers.
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Confirmed, with latest CSipSimple nightly build (Jeez, they didn't release since 2011!!!) I was able to make calls, now with one way audio (out), outbound but not incoming calls, and if the remote party hangs, the phone does not detect it.
Those symptoms are familiar - NAT can't properly handle UDP inwards. Both SIP and RTP are affected. Enabling STUN did not help either.
Well, I'm going to buy data only SIM from Bell, stay tuned...
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Confirmed, with latest CSipSimple nightly build (Jeez, they didn't release since 2011!!!) I was able to make calls, now with one way audio (out), outbound but not incoming calls, and if the remote party hangs, the phone does not detect it.
Those symptoms are familiar - NAT can't properly handle UDP inwards. Both SIP and RTP are affected. Enabling STUN did not help either.
Well, I'm going to buy data only SIM from Bell, stay tuned...
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bell will definitely work, their 3G network is just not as good as rogers'
Linphone can receive incoming, but one way audio too
thunderzhao said:
bell will definitely work, their 3G network is just not as good as rogers'
Linphone can receive incoming, but one way audio too
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Well, recently I've been at Rock Point (Lake Eerie), and both my personal Note (Fido) and business Blackberry (Rogers) had no signal on 3G and even GSM, while my friend was chattering and browsing on his Bell connected phone... Maybe Bell's 3G coverage is spotty, but so is Rogers. I've seen too many times that Rogers drops to GSM with no apparent reason, and that means no decent data for VoIP.
We'll see. I'm aiming at LTE anyways, and Bell's LTE spot is WAY bigger according to their official coverage maps.
Someone has to be a guinea pig for new technologies. I hate the idea of paying $70 for CityFido + data, while I could pay $25-$35 for Bell's flex plus $0 for FreePhoneLine.
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Well, recently I've been at Rock Point (Lake Eerie), and both my personal Note (Fido) and business Blackberry (Rogers) had no signal on 3G and even GSM, while my friend was chattering and browsing on his Bell connected phone... Maybe Bell's 3G coverage is spotty, but so is Rogers. I've seen too many times that Rogers drops to GSM with no apparent reason, and that means no decent data for VoIP.
We'll see. I'm aiming at LTE anyways, and Bell's LTE spot is WAY bigger according to their official coverage maps.
Someone has to be a guinea pig for new technologies. I hate the idea of paying $70 for CityFido + data, while I could pay $25-$35 for Bell's flex plus $0 for FreePhoneLine.
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finally got it working on rogers 3g with pbxes.org, and then add freephoneline as a truck, csipsimple works fine
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finally got it working on rogers 3g with pbxes.org, and then add freephoneline as a truck, csipsimple works fine
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Hmmm, I wonder how you did it, can't make it work.
Okay, now I'm on Bell 3G (no LTE yet).
1. Registering with FPL directly gives me outbound calls OK, inbound call get voicemail (on 3G), STUN has no effect. WiFi calling is fine.
2. Registering through PBXes and FPL - outbound calls even to VM gives me "488 / Not acceptable here" on 3G, works OK on WiFi. Incoming calls make my cell ring, but when I pick up the call I'm getting same 488 on 3G. What's wrong here?
Will try it on Fido 3G...
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Hmmm, I wonder how you did it, can't make it work.
Okay, now I'm on Bell 3G (no LTE yet).
1. Registering with FPL directly gives me outbound calls OK, inbound call get voicemail (on 3G), STUN has no effect. WiFi calling is fine.
2. Registering through PBXes and FPL - outbound calls even to VM gives me "488 / Not acceptable here" on 3G, works OK on WiFi. Incoming calls make my cell ring, but when I pick up the call I'm getting same 488 on 3G. What's wrong here?
Will try it on Fido 3G...
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488 means incompatible codec, pbxes only accept ilbc,
Are you using csipsimple?
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488 means incompatible codec, pbxes only accept ilbc,
Are you using csipsimple?
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Yes, and it was a CSipSimple glitch.
By default it has SILK + PCMU + PCMA. I've left only PCMU and it stopped working on 3G only (WiFi was OK). Resetting CSipSimple to defaults resolved it. Weird...
BTW I doubt that PBXes only accepts ILBC, there's quite a number of codecs mentioned in their online help.
thunderzhao said:
finally got it working on rogers 3g with pbxes.org, and then add freephoneline as a truck, csipsimple works fine
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I've managed to recreate this eventually. I don't know what's so special about PBXes, but yes it works fine with both Fido and Bell 3G. Thanks for the clue! Looks like I'm going to eliminate my home FreePBX and switch to PBXes.
However, sound is choppy like hell on both, barely usable. And I'm still struggling to get LTE on Bell's SIM, hope it will improve things.
One more question - phonebook in my Android has all the numbers in international format - +1-xxx-xxx-xxxx, +7-xxx-xxx-xxxx etc. When I dial directly from my address book into CSipSiple->PBXes->FPL, FPL rejects the call saying it's not covered by my plan. I believe I need substitute +1 with 1, +7 with 0117 and so on, but how do I do this? PBXes is based on FreePBX, and its rules use + as a special character for adding prefixes I believe...
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Yes, and it was a CSipSimple glitch.
By default it has SILK + PCMU + PCMA. I've left only PCMU and it stopped working on 3G only (WiFi was OK). Resetting CSipSimple to defaults resolved it. Weird...
BTW I doubt that PBXes only accepts ILBC, there's quite a number of codecs mentioned in their online help.
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you are right, pbxes accept pcmu as well, but i thought it's too heavy for 3g, they allow g729a "PASSTHU" only to paid users.
for the choppiness, sip require packets loss way lower than 1%, i'm still trying to figure out what to do about that
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I've managed to recreate this eventually. I don't know what's so special about PBXes, but yes it works fine with both Fido and Bell 3G. Thanks for the clue! Looks like I'm going to eliminate my home FreePBX and switch to PBXes.
However, sound is choppy like hell on both, barely usable. And I'm still struggling to get LTE on Bell's SIM, hope it will improve things.
One more question - phonebook in my Android has all the numbers in international format - +1-xxx-xxx-xxxx, +7-xxx-xxx-xxxx etc. When I dial directly from my address book into CSipSiple->PBXes->FPL, FPL rejects the call saying it's not covered by my plan. I believe I need substitute +1 with 1, +7 with 0117 and so on, but how do I do this? PBXes is based on FreePBX, and its rules use + as a special character for adding prefixes I believe...
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for the number formats, since i have all numbers stored on google voice, i went there and deleted all "+" and "-"
in csipsimple, there's an option called filter, i think you can reformat there
a few more tweaks for the choppiness, I disabled echo cancelling since sound from ear piece is not likely to reach microphone.
I also have trouble with the new csipsimple, when i use ilbc, it will freeze after about 30 seconds.
if you directly connect to freephoneline.ca, you need to use PCMU in order to receive phone call over 3G, somehow freephoneline disabled g729a on incoming calls.
so much for today's tweaking. good luck, let me know what you find out
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you are right, pbxes accept pcmu as well, but i thought it's too heavy for 3g, they allow g729a "PASSTHU" only to paid users.
for the choppiness, sip require packets loss way lower than 1%, i'm still trying to figure out what to do about that
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SIP as signalling protocol is doing fine. RTP transport for audio is a problem.
I believe nothing can be done over 3G. I'm trying to make it work over LTE - it's supposed to be much better.
However I figured out that unlocked I717R (Rogers) does not connect to Bell's LTE cloud however it should.
I'm going to flash the Bell's radio and try again. I wonder if there's just Bell's baseband for ICS I can download and burn with Odin. I have only found full stock ICS for Bell, and that's a long and messy update path.
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SIP as signalling protocol is doing fine. RTP transport for audio is a problem.
I believe nothing can be done over 3G. I'm trying to make it work over LTE - it's supposed to be much better.
However I figured out that unlocked I717R (Rogers) does not connect to Bell's LTE cloud however it should.
I'm going to flash the Bell's radio and try again. I wonder if there's just Bell's baseband for ICS I can download and burn with Odin. I have only found full stock ICS for Bell, and that's a long and messy update path.
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not very experienced with radio band and stuff, but have you tried getril? heard it's a very easy app to do this
Galaxy Note not supported yet.
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Ok, another report.
1. After upgrading radio from Rogers to Bell, Bell LTE is pretty solid and stable while I'm in GTA.
2. Generally, VoIP over 3G is crap, both Bell and Fido/Rogers. VoIP over LTE is mostly OK. No surprise.
3. CSipSimple cannot properly handle Bluetooth handover. By some reason, the call always starts on speakerphone, then has to be routed manually either to BT or earpiece.
4. SIP keepalives are draining battery really fast, no matter if it's Wifi, 3G, or LTE.
5. PBXes.org is GROSS... I've stopped and dismissed my home FreePBX.
Fido has just started offering LTE. Tonight will try and upgrade my SIM card. I wonder though if I need to flash my radio back to Rogers to make it work...
General conclusion - VoIP over cell data is not ready yet for general use. However, geeks like me can save a few cents...
A few questions:
1. Is it possible to block voice cellular calls in and out? My Bell SIM card 'for tablets' still allows voice calls, and every time I'm hitting the wrong button I'm making 40 cents pay-per-minute charge. Customer service says it cannot be blocked on their side.
2. Is there any way to route SMS messages to VoIP and vice versa?
3. Is there a number portability between cell networks and VoIP operators (Canada and US, just to see a big picture)?
I believe this discussion is off-topic here. Can someone suggest a proper forum?
if you use csipsimple, you can disable mobile, if you use stock phone app, you can set use internet call only.
fongo supports sms now, i use google voice, with simonics
canadian numbers can port to fongo, US number can port to google voice
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Ok, another report.
1. After upgrading radio from Rogers to Bell, Bell LTE is pretty solid and stable while I'm in GTA.
2. Generally, VoIP over 3G is crap, both Bell and Fido/Rogers. VoIP over LTE is mostly OK. No surprise.
3. CSipSimple cannot properly handle Bluetooth handover. By some reason, the call always starts on speakerphone, then has to be routed manually either to BT or earpiece.
4. SIP keepalives are draining battery really fast, no matter if it's Wifi, 3G, or LTE.
5. PBXes.org is GROSS... I've stopped and dismissed my home FreePBX.
Fido has just started offering LTE. Tonight will try and upgrade my SIM card. I wonder though if I need to flash my radio back to Rogers to make it work...
General conclusion - VoIP over cell data is not ready yet for general use. However, geeks like me can save a few cents...
A few questions:
1. Is it possible to block voice cellular calls in and out? My Bell SIM card 'for tablets' still allows voice calls, and every time I'm hitting the wrong button I'm making 40 cents pay-per-minute charge. Customer service says it cannot be blocked on their side.
2. Is there any way to route SMS messages to VoIP and vice versa?
3. Is there a number portability between cell networks and VoIP operators (Canada and US, just to see a big picture)?
I believe this discussion is off-topic here. Can someone suggest a proper forum?
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if you use csipsimple, you can disable mobile, if you use stock phone app, you can set use internet call only.
fongo supports sms now, i use google voice, with simonics
canadian numbers can port to fongo, US number can port to google voice
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Thanks thunderzhao!
At the moment I decided to stop my VoIP over cellular experiments, this is not productive.
First, Fido has just offered unlimited national calling + 2Gb of data + convenience pack, all for $56, and it's a killer.
Second, new mobile version of Skype, however not SIP based, is soooo much simpler to deal with than SIP solutions. It has a super clear voice Skype-to-Skype (and video too), works seamlessly over firewalls and NAT, and has a decent quality over both HSPA and LTE.
Third, VoLTE is on the horizon (so I believe), and it will completely change the landscape of mobile services, plans, and prices.
Switching to waiting mode.
Fongo crashes on cm but works fine for me on cm10 and most touchwiz ICS ROMs.
I have never used google voice before. I know that Sprint has a google voice integration. Is there a way to use the google voice integration to avoid being disconected from lte when a call comes in?
If not possible is there a setting in the dialer code that would enable lte to stay on and avoid calls temporarily?
If anyone is interested I found the way to have uninterupted data while on lte. I used an app in the play store named "lte settings". I use it to set the radio to lte only. The only drawback is that no calls or sms or able to get through while it is in this mode. it is easy to switch back and forth. I use it if I am downloading or using tether and do not want a call to disconnect me.
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If anyone is interested I found the way to have uninterupted data while on lte. I used an app in the play store named "lte settings". I use it to set the radio to lte only. The only drawback is that no calls or sms or able to get through while it is in this mode. it is easy to switch back and forth. I use it if I am downloading or using tether and do not want a call to disconnect me.
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This application looks pointless. You can just as easily access this menu by going into your phone and pressing *#*#4636#*#*. This allows you to change the phone to LTE Only, CDMA + LTE/EVDO, etc. It also lets you force your phone to search on a given frequency, such as Cellular, PCS, or Secondary 800 MHz.
Just for the record, the Sprint version will NEVER be able to do SVLTE or SVDO. Don't ask. It simply cannot be done unless you use VoIP software. The hardware on the Sprint version cannot do more than one type of connection, as in either it has LTE, CDMA or EVDO.
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This application looks pointless. You can just as easily access this menu by going into your phone and pressing *#*#4636#*#*. This allows you to change the phone to LTE Only, CDMA + LTE/EVDO, etc. It also lets you force your phone to search on a given frequency, such as Cellular, PCS, or Secondary 800 MHz.
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No secret codes work for verizon stock so that app is far from pointless...
Those of us in a new aws area would want to change to lte only to test it out or if we needed it data only.
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This application looks pointless. You can just as easily access this menu by going into your phone and pressing *#*#4636#*#*. This allows you to change the phone to LTE Only, CDMA + LTE/EVDO, etc. It also lets you force your phone to search on a given frequency, such as Cellular, PCS, or Secondary 800 MHz.
Just for the record, the Sprint version will NEVER be able to do SVLTE or SVDO. Don't ask. It simply cannot be done unless you use VoIP software. The hardware on the Sprint version cannot do more than one type of connection, as in either it has LTE, CDMA or EVDO.
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How do you change to LTE Only, CDMA + LTE/EVDO in the ##4636 settings? Also how do you force it to search on a certain frequency?
So I got the phone and it's working really well. My biggest issue is the lack of VoWifi. I called T-Mobile and the tech felt it should have it.
When I dialed *#*#4636#*#* (I think it's that), VoWifi is greyed out. Is there any way to use ADB or anything to force-enable it? There's no way, with the LTE/5G bands it has that it cannot be enabled on T-Mobile...
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So I got the phone and it's working really well. My biggest issue is the lack of VoWifi. I called T-Mobile and the tech felt it should have it.
When I dialed *#*#4636#*#* (I think it's that), VoWifi is greyed out. Is there any way to use ADB or anything to force-enable it? There's no way, with the LTE/5G bands it has that it cannot be enabled on T-Mobile...
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It can be related to your provider or it's SIM settings. I use Dual SIM. My Vodafone (NL) in SIM bay 1 has the WiFi-calling option. My KPN (NL) in bay 2 doesn't have it.
jordidejongh said:
It can be related to your provider or it's SIM settings. I use Dual SIM. My Vodafone (NL) in SIM bay 1 has the WiFi-calling option. My KPN (NL) in bay 2 doesn't have it.
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You will only get wifi calling on Google fi on xperia 1, xperia 1 ii and xperia 1 iii. I have used all three phones on tmobile and it doesnt get wifi calling but on Google fi they do.
leony74 said:
You will only get wifi calling on Google fi on xperia 1, xperia 1 ii and xperia 1 iii. I have used all three phones on tmobile and it doesnt get wifi calling but on Google fi they do.
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That's because Google has its own WiFi calling implementation, not using VoWIFI. It should work on just about any device.
I am able to get VoWIFI on T-Mobile after flashing Sony's Developer Binary (for the Xperia 1 ii), but unfortunately that one comes with some other unacceptable compromises (like no task switcher). Anyway the attached screenshot shows the service screen (dial *#*#INFO#*#*) on T-Mobile with this firmware. T-Mobile WiFi calling also works with even more out-of-fashion phones like my Nokia 9 PureView, so I would say this is definitely a Sony firmware issue.
In turn, the WiFi hotspot function does not work on Google Fi on any of my Xperias (1 ii, 5 ii, 1 iii). The client (e.g. laptop) connects to the phone and gets an IP address, but can never reach any website. It works fine with other phones (Nokia, Samsung,. ... and even the same developer image), and it works fine also with the Xperia on T-Mobile and AT&T. I suspect some iptables/firewall incompatibility between Fi and Sony's stock firmware.
I returned my phone back to sony because of missing vowifi.
T-mobile expert said its fully compatible but Sony expert said All Sony Phone dont have vowifi (disabled by software)
So I bought Xperia 1 III (along with a prepaid 3HK SIM card) when I was traveling in Hong Kong.
I inserted that 3HK SIM card to Sony phone, the Wi-Fi Calling was an option in the setting menu.
But after I returned to US, I swapped an Ultra Mobile SIM card to the Xperia 1 III, the Wi-Fi calling option is gone.
Before that, the Ultra Mobile SIM card worked perfectly on a Samsung Note 9 (also Hong Kong version) with Wi-Fi calling enabled. So it looks like it's a software problem.
Tried Google Fi SIM card, I was able to activate Wi-Fi Calling in Google Fi app, but not in phone setting menu.
T-Mobile VoWiFi is incompatible with the stock Sony firmware. You can get it back by flashing one of Sony's developer binaries onto your OEM partition (for "open devices" like the Xperia 1 ii and 5 ii but not 1 iii); however this also makes the phone not really suitable for day-to-day use (for instance, no "recent apps" switcher).
FWIW, T-Mobile VoWiFi works great on my older Nokia 9 PureView, which is definitely not a "known" device as far as T-Mobile is concerned. So the issue is limited to the combination of T-Mobile USA and stock Sony firmware. (Of course, VoWiFi also does not work on AT&T, but that's expected since they only provision AT&T-branded phones).
WiFi calling works on Google Fi, because they use their own implementation (not VoWiFi). Alas, WiFi hotspot functionality is broken on Fi - there seems to be something like a firewall/iptables incompatibilty between Fi and the Sony firrmware. The client (e.g. laptop) is able to obtain an IP address and ping the phone, but is not able to then connect to the Internet. (This, too, is fixed with the developer image above).
FWIW, as a workaround, you can install the T-Mobile DIGITS application and enable this feature on your account to make calls over WiFi. The only caveat, as I learned today, is that this does not let you make international calls. :-(
Hlorri said:
T-Mobile VoWiFi is incompatible with the stock Sony firmware. You can get it back by flashing one of Sony's developer binaries onto your OEM partition (for "open devices" like the Xperia 1 ii and 5 ii but not 1 iii); however this also makes the phone not really suitable for day-to-day use (for instance, no "recent apps" switcher).
FWIW, T-Mobile VoWiFi works great on my older Nokia 9 PureView, which is definitely not a "known" device as far as T-Mobile is concerned. So the issue is limited to the combination of T-Mobile USA and stock Sony firmware. (Of course, VoWiFi also does not work on AT&T, but that's expected since they only provision AT&T-branded phones).
WiFi calling works on Google Fi, because they use their own implementation (not VoWiFi). Alas, WiFi hotspot functionality is broken on Fi - there seems to be something like a firewall/iptables incompatibilty between Fi and the Sony firrmware. The client (e.g. laptop) is able to obtain an IP address and ping the phone, but is not able to then connect to the Internet. (This, too, is fixed with the developer image above).
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What does developer binaries do? What can you achieve with this and how do you install it
Hazzay88 said:
What does developer binaries do? What can you achieve with this and how do you install it
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They are actually just meant to bring back some of the original Sony functionality (e.g. camera) on top of a plain-vanilla AOSP build. For instance you can build and install AOSP 12 and then flash this image to the OEM partition. Won't give you Google Play services though, so not really useful for most people.
However you can also flash it on a stock Sony firmware. (Just apply step 7 in the AOSP instructions above, without doing the rest). Fixes some issues, including VoWIFI on T-Mobile and WiFi hotspot on Google Fi, but unfortunately the recent apps switcher is then gone.
Only available for "Open Devices" like the Xperia 1 ii and 5 ii, but not 1 iii.
I know this is a roundabout solution, but it worked for me:
Port your number(s) to Google Voice. This will end your current wireless subscription.
Sign up for a new wireless plan, with new numbers. (*) If you order a new plan online, it's a good idea to do this first so that the SIMs arrive ready for activation before you start the previous step.
Set up Google Voice to forward your calls to that number. Or better yet, install the Voice app on your phone - you can redirect both inbound and outbound calls via this app/service. (I.e. you can use the native dialer to make Voice calls; however for text messages and voicemail you need to use the Voice app).
Optional: In the native phone app, block all inbound calls directly to the new number (remember, your primary one is now on Google Voice).
This also gives you the ability to send/receive calls, voicemail, text messages on a web browser. In other words, all of this is essentially a roundabout way of getting functionality similar to Google Fi; but remember, Fi's hotspot does not work on the Xperia.
(*) Apparently if your carrier is T-Mobile, cancelling 3+ lines and then signing up for 3+ new ones won't give you the same discount as the original signup. According to a local T-Mobile store rep I talked to, if you cancel and recreate service within 90 days, the system thinks you are trying to somehow cheat on discounts. Weird -- I ended up going (back) to AT&T for this reason. You may also consider T-Mobile MVNOs such as Mint Mobile. (**)
(**) Oddly enough, in addition to better overall coverage, I get much higher download speeds on AT&T LTE/LTE+ compared to T-Mobile 5G (NR/NSA) - even in a place with full bars on both carriers. I did a test today with two SIMs in the phone - on AT&T I got 100 Mbps down on first try, whereas on T-Mobile the best I ever got (20+ tries) was ~30 Mbps down; typically 15-20. Not sure if this is another artifact of the Sony firmware, YMMV.
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Course, if you only need to make domestic calls while on WiFi, T-Mobile DIGITS is the path of least resitance.