Not rooted = No cracked app? - HTC EVO 3D

Hi guys, I just found that I can install Non-market apps on my non-rooted non-s-off GSM E3D via a third party computer suite(with unkown source checked).
I was surprised as I thought without root I can't install non-market apps & games.
So my question is: Is root absolutely required if I want to side load game & apps I downloaded in my computer? Confused.
Sorry for mentioning Ck'ed app, how do I edit the title then?

sacredabyss said:
Hi guys, I just found that I can install cracked apps on my non-rooted non-s-off GSM E3D via a third party computer suite(with unkown source checked).
I was surprised as I thought without root I can't install non-market apps & games.
So my question is: Is root absolutely required if I want to side load game & apps I downloaded in my computer? Confused.
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No discussion of warez allowed on forums. Cracked apps = warez
But to answer your question, root is not necessary to install apps.
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sacredabyss said:
Hi guys, I just found that I can install Non-market apps on my non-rooted non-s-off GSM E3D via a third party computer suite(with unkown source checked).
I was surprised as I thought without root I can't install non-market apps & games.
So my question is: Is root absolutely required if I want to side load game & apps I downloaded in my computer? Confused.
Sorry for mentioning Ck'ed app, how do I edit the title then?
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Needless to say you're probably not aware of Amazon's apps, or the spy ware infested apps at some sites. Appbrain is available as an alternative site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983859.
So this is the affect of apple's closed app store policy, "guilt by inference".

I thought root was required because I was tring to use titanium backup to restore apps from my HD2 and it pops up saying that I need to have root.
Now I can wait more time for the s-off + root then.

sacredabyss said:
I thought root was required because I was tring to use titanium backup to restore apps from my HD2 and it pops up saying that I need to have root.
Now I can wait more time for the s-off + root then.
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I think that is because you need root to backup application data..
OP: With android, you can install any APK you find online.

Android can write to data, while other apps can only write to data for that app only. TB is trying to write other apps data, this is why it fails.
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[Q]sideloading

What is sideloadind and how do use it
sideload is mean that you can install an apk from your SDcard.
It also means you can install Amazon App Store (currently blocked by AT&T) and download apps from there.
Its more than that. Sideloading basically allows the installation of third party apps from anywhere, which means that you're no longer restricted to the app market. To enable it use gladenable, which you can find in the development section.
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pardon my ignorance, I have not enabled sideloading but I have several APKs downloaded and saved to my SD card. I just use Astro to install them. Is this not what sideloading does? Or am i missing something completely?
gold_sprinter said:
Or am i missing something completely?
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Yup, you're missing something completely. Please read the following again:
krad54 said:
Its more than that. Sideloading basically allows the installation of third party apps from anywhere, which means that you're no longer restricted to the app market. To enable it use gladenable, which you can find in the development section.
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[Q] install apk as system app

Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
I know that the Z4 root app has an option for temp root functions which goes back to an unrooted state once you reboot.
My guess is that you can run that, place your apk in the appropriate system folder, install the apk from there & then reboot.
But again I'm not to sure if temp root functions work on our G-Tabs & if it does if it's as simple as I explained. Worth a try I guess.
Again I'm assuming that your not already in a permanent root state. If so then you'll have to unroot completely first & then try what I mentioned above.
Unless someone has an easier method?
convert user apps to system apps
nikt said:
Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
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Titanium Backup Pro (paid version 3.8.1 and higher) has a function that allows one to convert user apps-->system apps (as well as system app-->user app ... though this sometimes causes initial FCs, which generally disappear with reboot).
Not sure if the effect will remain after unrooting.
Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
pmcnano said:
Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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So then how do proprietary apps like Sprint Nascar (as an example) run on an unrooted phone?
Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
pmcnano said:
Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
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It probably doesn't or it might I have no idea. The op never pointed out which apps he wants to use.
However & this is a big however, as I have no idea which apps require root access, one has to assume that any of the preinstalled apps that come on our G-Tabs do in fact need root access, yet they can run on an unrooted device. Again I could be wrong.
That being said, how does one go about determining which apps require root access?
Thanks for the replies guys. The issue is supporting proxy servers on unrooted devices. There are several proxy apps that require root access as well as a kernel that supports proxy. If the proxy app were installed as a system app, would this have enough rights to access the kernel as required? I don't know enough about this but was led to believe this might work if it was running as system. Same for apps that use CIFS, like mount manager. I guess I'll give it a try and see what happens...!
Like I said, being installed on System doesnt have anything to do with having root or not.
Im 95% sure about what I am saying.
edit: I confirmed it..so 100% sure, if the app needs root, you will need root no matter where the app is installed.

[Q] Removing unwanted apps from menu list

Hi guys,
Anyone can guide me to remove/hide below list of apps from my menu list? the phone has been rooted.
1. Get apps
2. TrackID
3. Wise Pilot
4. Latitude
5. Places
6. Support
7. Navigation
8. Friends' music
9. Setup Guide
10. Games by Popcap
11. Store
12. liveware
13. Get games
14. extension
15. update center
Thanks in advance.
I found the software Root Uninstaller Pro v1.20 that should do the job.
Trying out now.
I'm using "Titanium Backup" for that, it has a lot of uses besides uninstalling bloatware.
Thanks Heimiko, will try out that software too. Currently the root uninstaller able to solve my case.
If you only wants to hide them you can use "Launcher Pro"
Can someone tell me under what name does games by popcap run in phone? or app list ?
im unable to find it and uninstall removed the rest.
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berz said:
Can someone tell me under what name does games by popcap run in phone? or app list ?
im unable to find it and uninstall removed the rest.
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How we remove apps like Games by PopCap, Evernote, Playnow?
You can remove stock apps by using Terminal Emulator. Here is the tutorial - http://jaxov.com/2010/09/how-to-remove-stock-default-android-apps-easily/
So i need to root my mini for this? I will probably lose my warranty right?
Sorry if this some dumb question but im new on android...
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lucasra said:
So i need to root my mini for this? I will probably lose my warranty right?
Sorry if this some dumb question but im new on android...
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Yup~ before root u need to unlock bootloader 1st~
try to avoid unlock bootloader if u just want to keep your phone warranty~
try to stop stock apps operating; android assistant can block other apps at startup and kill apps~
dont waste your phone warranty~
Does somebody got a list with what .apk is what app? Some of the .apk does not resemble some of the apps, and don't want to delete something that might kill my phone.
edit: Btw, you can uninstall apps in flashtool.
If you find the right apk then you can remove the app without any problem with this tool? I mean if the app isnt important, like Gamesbypopcap.
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Yeah! Certain app/apk I was remove using root uninstaller - result; my phone running on 235/334MB free space memory~
backup before remove~ if you want to install back to system app you needs to purchase root uninstaller pro
=/ not good if you make mistake~
deoxx said:
Does somebody got a list with what .apk is what app? Some of the .apk does not resemble some of the apps, and don't want to delete something that might kill my phone.
edit: Btw, you can uninstall apps in flashtool.
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try use root uninstaller - you will know with apps that u want to remove, just refer to icon of apps in root uninstaller =) list? refer to 1st post
Yeah, you need to root your mini for that. It voids the warranty, but I'm pretty sure you can reverse it so people can't tell. Technically, you've voided your warranty, but if you remove the evidence, no one can tell and your warranty is honored. You need to know what you're doing, obviously, so you should look into it more before trying it.
Hey guys i have another question, i dont think a new thread is needed.
My mini pro says the sdcard has 1.2 gb used but when i select all files inside the card with Windows explorer it says there is only 350mb used. Why? and who's right?
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Does your explorer show hidden files ? ^^
Sakem said:
Does your explorer show hidden files ? ^^
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Yes
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Is there a way to remove them without rooting the phone?
Or did the devs already find a way to root he phone without unlocking the bootloader?

[Q] Some apps says its rooted, some that its not

Hey, not sure if it matters, but my device is: Kruger&Matz KM 974 tablet (PIPO)
- Some apps, like all kinds of RootChecker's from google play, says that I have no root
- CPU-Z (mobile) says that I have root
- AVG antivir (mobile) says theres root
- Avast! says there isnt
Which app would be most reliable?
How to check it without apps?
Thanks.
Hope its allowed to bump from time to time? It moved to 2nd page pretty quick.
maybe you can see in superuser or supersu apps ..make sure the su binary is installed correctly
ali.filth said:
maybe you can see in superuser or supersu apps ..make sure the su binary is installed correctly
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Could it be that its "rooted" (in the meaning of not locked), but without superuser app? So some apps checking for superuser (which isnt here) reporting its not rooted while others checking something else saying it is?
Kinda new to this, but could simply installing the superSU app solve the issue? Or well, could it actually break something if its installed on non rooted device?
Sorry for dumb questions but im really an first time android user
z4x said:
Could it be that its "rooted" (in the meaning of not locked), but without superuser app? So some apps checking for superuser (which isnt here) reporting its not rooted while others checking something else saying it is?
Kinda new to this, but could simply installing the superSU app solve the issue? Or well, could it actually break something if its installed on non rooted device?
Sorry for dumb questions but im really an first time android user
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The apps are for rights management, for you to control which apps get su access and which apps don't.
You should be able to su from a terminal without the apps, but if you can, remember that other apps can do so as well without you knowing.
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z4x said:
Hey, not sure if it matters, but my device is: Kruger&Matz KM 974 tablet (PIPO)
- Some apps, like all kinds of RootChecker's from google play, says that I have no root
- CPU-Z (mobile) says that I have root
- AVG antivir (mobile) says theres root
- Avast! says there isnt
Which app would be most reliable?
How to check it without apps?
Thanks.
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you can try the method from my group and let me know
What do you want to use root for ?
try the app that requires root (Titanium Backup? ROM Manager? etc? ), if it works, then you have root, if not, then not... who cares what the checker apps say....

[Q] Security of rooted Android devices

Hello!
I have some basic questions about the security of rooted android devices. I'm running Cyanogenmod 11 actually on my SGS3. Of course I rooted it to install custom Recovery and ROM. So is there any possibility for an App to get Root Access without recognition?
I dont need the Root access anymore, I only wanted to install Cyanogenmod and thats it. What to do to fully unroot Cyanogen?
Another question:
If i have enabled "only install from trusted sources" am I safe? Or could there be sort of drive-by-downloads for example on this site sometimes i get the pop-up "your phone has (13) viruses, click ok ...".
Yeah thats it, I'm a little bit paranoid especially according to my passwords, are they safe!?
Thanks a lot and Greets from Germany!
RedMr said:
I'm running Cyanogenmod 11 actually on my SGS3. Of course I rooted it to install custom Recovery and ROM. So is there any possibility for an App to get Root Access without recognition?
I dont need the Root access anymore, I only wanted to install Cyanogenmod and thats it. What to do to fully unroot Cyanogen?
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You can't be unrooted and have CyanogenMod installed; that's an oxymoron. You can, of course, be unrooted without CM installed, but you can't have 'em both.
RedMr said:
If i have enabled "only install from trusted sources" am I safe? Or could there be sort of drive-by-downloads for example on this site sometimes i get the pop-up "your phone has (13) viruses, click ok ...".
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You're safe even without "only install from trusted sources" turned on. Just make sure not to install anything at all that you didn't specifically tell your device to install.
RedMr said:
I'm a little bit paranoid especially according to my passwords, are they safe!?
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Unless you have an actual trojan or virus installed on your phone, your passwords are perfectly safe.
To check and make sure you're secure, download and install the avast! Mobile Security & Antivirus app from Google Play, and run a device scan.
Is there any possibility for getting installed without recognizing?
Can an app get Root permissions without giving them?
RedMr said:
Is there any possibility for getting installed without recognizing?
Can an app get Root permissions without giving them?
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If you're not already, you need to use a Super User app like SuperSU (the best one). It allows you to grant/deniy apps root access. If it asks to grant/deny permission to an app that you didn't install or isn't a function of CM, or simply don't want to grant root access, then deny it permission.
EDIT: As Nookie said, you can't accidentally install something even if you allow installations of apps that aren't from "trusted sources". If you do install apps from non "trusted sources", just be smart about it.

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