So I'm really confused about this unlocked bootloader thing. Do we have one that will consistently work without breaking 4G or not? When I read the threads it isn't clear at all. Coming from an epic i am not familiar with unlocking bootloaders. I assume we need this to install custom roms?
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Right now, unlocking the bootloader does break 4g.
The boot loader has to be unlocked to rewrite some of the partitions.
Alien Rom has a way to get it back - but honestly never read up on how.
Is there something we can do do...like a mass request to Motorola? ?? Request ing they fork over a unlocked bootloader for us to flash....it shouldnt be that hard for them
I believe thats what is really holding back this phone
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lucidvtec said:
Is there something we can do do...like a mass request to Motorola? ?? Request ing they fork over a unlocked bootloader for us to flash....it shouldnt be that hard for them
I believe thats what is really holding back this phone
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Hasn't really worked in the past. If they release it they will when they feel like it.
It will take some trial and error and some blood sweat and tears but you can have working 4g on the custom rom of your choice. Not that there are many to choose from. I did it with the alien rom using the guides in the development forum. I felt like it was worth it at the time but honestly didn't even use 4g much because it drains the battery so much faster and the phone gets hot. Wifi works with an unlocked bootloader, and wifi doesn't drain the battery. So now i'm leaving the bootloader unlocked using the Homebase ROM with ext3 and overclocked kernel. It's amazing.
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Yay4Jugs is still working on this and thinks he has a way to make it work. In another thread, he was looking for a 64bit computer to make this work, but I think he might have some help now and hopefully he can get it done for us.
Wish i could loan him my rendering machice
Anything we can do to help...i think the bootloader should be top priority ...once that is worked out im sure we will have more devs come in
This phone is a beast..i loved my EVO ..this thing blows it out the water...well almost the same..but a dual core with better radios and screen
..not to mention way better battery life
Let us know how we can help...
I wish kush and calk were over here
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Well this thread definitely answered my question. I was wondering if photon had a nice collection of roms, but I guess the bootloader is not released yet which would be the major reason why developers haven't done anything with this little power house. I had the sensation 4g with tmobile and left tmobile to join the photon lifestyle right before they released the bootloader for the sensation 4g...so I missed the fun there and now I jumped to photon and now I'm on hold for the bootloader again fml. Does anybody have the slightest clue if motorola will be releasing it, cuz if not soon. I might be looking to get the samsung galaxy note, which looks like a monster from outer space with the specs it has. 5.1 inch screen 1.5 dual.core 800x1280 285ppi...omg
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Does anybody have the slightest clue if motorola will be releasing it, cuz if not soon. ...
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That's the million dollar question for us Photon users, isn't it?
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/445861#445861
On the Motorola support forum, one of their employees response to when the Photon's bootloader would be unlocked was, "This isn't solely up to Motorola"
Not that it will hurt, you could go on their support forum and voice your request too. That kind of conduct did prod them to release their source code.
I will get on there and voice it. Thanks they need to release it soon !!!!!!!!!! im pulling out what little hair i have. lmao
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Well this thread definitely answered my question. I was wondering if photon had a nice collection of roms, but I guess the bootloader is not released yet which would be the major reason why developers haven't done anything with this little power house. I had the sensation 4g with tmobile and left tmobile to join the photon lifestyle right before they released the bootloader for the sensation 4g...so I missed the fun there and now I jumped to photon and now I'm on hold for the bootloader again fml. Does anybody have the slightest clue if motorola will be releasing it, cuz if not soon. I might be looking to get the samsung galaxy note, which looks like a monster from outer space with the specs it has. 5.1 inch screen 1.5 dual.core 800x1280 285ppi...omg
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A 5.3 (not 5.1) inch mini-tablet with a stylus is just too big to carry as a phone for me - but a cool device! And probably available sometime late next year.
It is pushing it isnt it? lol. well i think thats the bigest im willing to go, a made a full scale print out down to the last mm. buy looking at the specs and im a graphics designer so i put the print out in my hand with a HD7 behind it to get a feel and it wasnt to bad to be honest. it ways the same as a hd7 (with a ruber protector) but since i do graphics i think thats whats swaying me towards it, so can proof print quality pdfs on the go, for work.
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Hello, my name is Korey. I am formally known as Whosdaman or WDM. I started at the HTC Vogue and was a very prestigious developer. I then made the switch to Android with the HTC Hero. After sheer disappointment, I then decided to purchase the Samsung Epic. Again after the lack luster software updates provided by Samsung, I decided to switch manufactures again. I have no purchased my Motorola Photon 4G yet, but I am planning on doing so and publicly developing for this device.
My mentor is Kenneth Pennington which many of you may know. He is one of the top chefs on the Atrix and he and I will be working on rooting with device and hopefully unlocking it.
So tell us who you and and a little about yourselves so we can grow as a community together. We all need to stick together in order to accomplish goals as a whole. I will be providing 24/7 support for anything Sprint related. So if you need anything just let me know, for example MSL lookup.
Let me be the first to say welcome and thank you!
We are looking forward to a healthy community; we all know this device is capable of awesomeness - we just need the right people. I hope to eventually help with testing/whatever I can!
Welcome, i hope someone gets to this device because it has so much potential..
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Welcome...I agree I believe this device has the most potential out if all the Sprint phones currently offered
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Welcome! Although I don't quite agree with the above poster, (3vo has a massive about of development going on now that they have s-off) I love my photon and am happy to be part of this community
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Korey? You'll always be Whosdaman to me. Anyway, glad to see ya here. I left the Epic for the 3D, returned it. Bought a used Evo 4g. It had a broken screen, so I purchased a new screen on Ebay. I googled and found how to videos to replace the touch screen, not that hard on the Evo. But after it was back together, the bottom touch buttons wouldn't work. Took it apart, tried again still wouldn't work, so down to the sprint store I go. I told them the whole story. They were great, said they could fix it, for $35. It was late, had to leave it over night. While I was there, played with the photon. I was really impressed! May see about selling the Evo, and upgrading to the Photon when I pick it up in the morning.
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Korey? You'll always be Whosdaman to me. Anyway, glad to see ya here. I left the Epic for the 3D, returned it. Bought a used Evo 4g. It had a broken screen, so I purchased a new screen on Ebay. I googled and found how to videos to replace the touch screen, not that hard on the Evo. But after it was back together, the bottom touch buttons wouldn't work. Took it apart, tried again still wouldn't work, so down to the sprint store I go. I told them the whole story. They were great, said they could fix it, for $35. It was late, had to leave it over night. While I was there, played with the photon. I was really impressed! May see about selling the Evo, and upgrading to the Photon when I pick it up in the morning.
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Welcome, looking forward to this being a healthy community here. So far this is shaping up to be an amazing device. Can't wait to see what is all brought to the table so to speak.
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Welcome! Although I don't quite agree with the above poster, (3vo has a massive about of development going on now that they have s-off) I love my photon and am happy to be part of this community
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Had the evo 3d rooted and it seems like the only way it can come close to the power of the photon is if an aosp rom was thrown on it. Sense just slowed it down so much.
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Ok, so traded in my evo and picked this beast up. Loving it so far!
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What's up guys, I just won a free photon from sprint yesterday, so I'm really excited to see what it can do! I also have an evo 3d which I'm in love with.... It's gonna be nice to have 2 pimp ass phone's! Since these come with an unlocked bootloader has anybody tried to root via super oneclick or gingerbread?
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What's up guys, I just won a free photon from sprint yesterday, so I'm really excited to see what it can do! I also have an evo 3d which I'm in love with.... It's gonna be nice to have 2 pimp ass phone's! Since these come with an unlocked bootloader has anybody tried to root via super oneclick or gingerbread?
SHOTS FIRED!!! From 3 Dimensions!
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Dang i was going to see if you would sell one of them.
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Saying Hello
OK, Joining the introduction thread.
Name is Tom, in Portland, Oregon. Started on HTC Hero, last phone was Samsung Epic. Not a ROM developer but regularly load the new ROMs on the phones and play with them until I get the one I like for that version, which surprisingly varies on the Epic because the ROMs don't get updated on an even schedule, not that their scheduled. Been a big fan of both ACS & Bonsia, usually using ACS ROMs.
I do have a QE background but have been moved to Database Admin.
Waiting patiently for the first root instructions to come out that work, tried the Atrix & SuperOneClick methods to no avail.
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What's up guys, I just won a free photon from sprint yesterday, so I'm really excited to see what it can do! I also have an evo 3d which I'm in love with.... It's gonna be nice to have 2 pimp ass phone's! Since these come with an unlocked bootloader has anybody tried to root via super oneclick or gingerbread?
SHOTS FIRED!!! From 3 Dimensions!
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These do not come with unlocked bootloader.
Congrats on the win though
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I now own the Motorola Photon 4G and me and Kenneth Pennington are working on a custom ROM for it currently.
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Hello, my name is Korey. I am formally known as Whosdaman or WDM. I started at the HTC Vogue and was a very prestigious developer. I then made the switch to Android with the HTC Hero. After sheer disappointment, I then decided to purchase the Samsung Epic. Again after the lack luster software updates provided by Samsung, I decided to switch manufactures again. I have no purchased my Motorola Photon 4G yet, but I am planning on doing so and publicly developing for this device.
My mentor is Kenneth Pennington which many of you may know. He is one of the top chefs on the Atrix and he and I will be working on rooting with device and hopefully unlocking it.
So tell us who you and and a little about yourselves so we can grow as a community together. We all need to stick together in order to accomplish goals as a whole. I will be providing 24/7 support for anything Sprint related. So if you need anything just let me know, for example MSL lookup.
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I dumped the Epic today and I'm not the proud owner of a Photon with both docks... Well... OK... my employer is the proud owner, I just get to use it. Going from the Epic to the Photon was a big step for me due to the loss of the physical keyboard but since I realized that 95%+ of the time I never used it I think I can adjust. I thought about waiting for the Within but I think I need a break from Samsung and there are things such as the docks that are more of a plus for me than the ability to record 1080 video. Glad to see you're on board over here. I'm hoping to find time to be more involved over here than I was over in Epicville.
Trying to determine if this is intros only for devs or common folks like myself. If common folks, then here goes, otherwise skip me.
Real name David, location NYC, (sounds like a dating service lol )
Call sign twospirits, as some may know me from other sites that I mod and admin in. Been a member here since 2007 but mostly in the lurking stance (as you can tell by my post count). And that's mainly because I am not a dev. I'm mainly into reading, writing and learning but having fun doing it.
Started with Sprint since 2000 on Touchpoint/LG phones non-smartphones then eventually with Winmo phones Diamond/Pro then jumped onto Android with the Hero, EVO and now Photon. Learned quite a lot but its a never ending process and the stuff that comes out of here is truly amazing. Amazed at the stuff that quite a few devs and their roms on here have produced like MikG and FreshEVO.
I agree with the OP that we can grow as a community together and need to stick together to accomplish goals. And hopefully this can be accomplished without the flaming and arguing shown elsewhere. Being that this section is brand new, maybe we can keep it flame free. I for one will be using that report button alot if it isn't.
TS out (<-- Oh and yeah I do that alot)
It's intro for everyone!
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What's up guys, I just won a free photon from sprint yesterday, so I'm really excited to see what it can do! I also have an evo 3d which I'm in love with.... It's gonna be nice to have 2 pimp ass phone's! Since these come with an unlocked bootloader has anybody tried to root via super oneclick or gingerbread?
SHOTS FIRED!!! From 3 Dimensions!
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It's not unlocked and we already have root and 2nd-init
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Hi. My name is Melissa. I just upgraded from the epic. I love this new photon. Its faster the the evo4g and the epic thus far and more memory. I am not a dev either. Hello twospirits. I remember u from other forums.
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The last few days have been very slow in this forum. I hope people are just satisfied with the phone and are not posting. I guess I'm just spoiled by the Evo 4g forum where you always had something new to read.
Starting to worry.
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Not even one thread has reached a 1000 posts yet. Its pretty sad. I know people keep saying good things will come, but I lost hope a while ago. Not trolling. I know everyone does this development stuff during their free time
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For me - I love the phone. Only thing I'd change would be placement of the USB port relative to the kickstand.
I've rooted it to remove bloatware, but don't know that there's anything that I want it do to that requires a custom ROM. Customizations, yes - but launchers, widgets and apps can do what I want.
I was in the same place with my EVO 3D. Stock was fine.
ROMs were necessary in the WinMo days (and perhaps the early Android days, though I missed those). I spent a LOT of time cooking kitchens for my WinMo phones.
There will always be people who like to cook ROMs as a hobby, but I knew that the Moto Photon would NOT be one of the target platform for them - will be mostly HTC phones, I imagine.
Well unlike my evo shift I'm happy with the phone the way it is. The evo shift was boring unless rooted and running a custom rom.
I love this phone and i'm satisfied with just root. Best phone I've ever owned. It just seems like there were a lot more people in this forum last month.
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mquinn24 said:
I love this phone and i'm satisfied with just root. Best phone I've ever owned. It just seems like there were a lot more people in this forum last month.
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It was brand new then
The inferior Samsung is the new shiny.
I also spent more time here and AC a month ago, but really don't have much more to say, or problems that need solved. I'm spending my time now customizing it and try out new apps.
Enjoy it!
Love this phone but its too complicated to unlock boot loader and such so people lost interest in the forums, not the phone in my opinion. I came from the Nexus S 4G and don't see a reason to lose 4g for a rom its great as it is running launcher pro. Just my 2 cents.
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The inferior Samsung is the new shiny
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Yea I don't think the epic touch is inferior at all. The exynos kills tegra. Everyone knows that
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Photon was a great phone, its great with root alone. I now got the sgs2 and gave the MoPho to my gf. She loves it coming from an HTC Aria. I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader, I tried but it looked too risky. I was pretty much satisfied with stock and my own build prop tweaks, there was no need to unlock. I do recommend to phone to people who aren't as tech savvy for just being a good dependable fast phone.
The sgs2 is no way inferior to the photon, every day use they run about the same, the photon does have better battery life and video recording, the sgs2 has a bigger screen and an unlocked bootloader.
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Yea I don't think the epic touch is inferior at all. The exynos kills tegra. Everyone knows that
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CPU is only one component in comparing phones, and IMHO not in the top 3 criteria. Screen, battery, radio signal, construction quality, vendor support all more important than minor (in the real world) CPU differences.
I won't get into any more bashing - will just say glad you like your phone; enjoy it!
I think my Photon is the best Android phone i've ever owned and I've had a few over the past couple of months, including the SGSII. The SGSII is a great phone but just too thin for me, so when on a flat surface my manley fingers couldn't quite grasp it right and i ended up dropping it. The Photon just feels perfect, build quality is great, just ticks all the boxes for me and I'm gonna stick with it for a while
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I know it may seem to be kinda hard, but unlocking the bootloader is actually fairly easy if you follow the steps on breifmobile. I have a link I think if someone is looking to unlock the bootloader.
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I know it may seem to be kinda hard, but unlocking the bootloader is actually fairly easy if you follow the steps on breifmobile. I have a link I think if someone is looking to unlock the bootloader.
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But you lose 4G
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Makes no difference to me. I don't live in a 4G area. :]
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Makes no difference to me. I don't live in a 4G area. :]
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Same
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Phone is great out of the box, not much to complain about on forums nor are people in a rush to slap a ROM on it like they would need to so their Samsung works correctly.
I came from the tmobile vibrant. At one point I had a choice of 65 custom roms and 11 kernels. I wanted unlimited data and more minutes and sprint was the only choice. I got the epic but took it back the day this phone dropped on the market. I like htc but 3d had some drawbacks. Mainly signal quality. I would like more roms, but mainly overclock kernels. I am learning to make my own themes and that will probably satisfy me. I hope development picks up, but if it doesn't I won't be upset. This is a wonderful phone and works right out of the box. I don't get 4g on my end of town and probably never will, and I could really care less.
It's good to see people are still here and they are satisfied with their phones. This is probably the best phone Sprint has to offer right now. It sucks that it was released sandwiched between the 3vo and sgsII.
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why does no one listen to me? i said weeks ago that what we had was the best this community was gunna get, with the release of the et4g i knew this place with die down a bit.. its unfortunate but thats the way it is. perhaps the next moto phone that sprint gets (tegra 3 plz ) will get some attention, instead of sprint getting another phone months later (they did it with the nexus s 4g, photon and if the rumors are true it will happen with the next nexus)
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Makes no difference to me. I don't live in a 4G area. :]
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Haha unfortunately I get full signal in my area :/
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I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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jsalazarcervantes said:
I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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Even if HTC were to discontinue the phone today it's still a 1.5ghz dual core 4G phone. The SGS2 is pretty much identical in specs. If the phones are so similar and the Amaze is no longer in production but the SGS2 is, then is the Amze "obsolete?" Your definition of obsolete must be different than mine.
+1. ^^^
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im sorry, i used a poor choice of words. i was in a hurry when i wrote this. By obsolete i meant that htc will not be supporting us and will stop sellin the phone.
With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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I agree. You have a two year contract when you purchase a phone with a discount. Who here thinks that T-Mobile shouldn't start offering new phones before your two year contract expires? Seriously! The phone has been out for what... three, four months now? I would say that's pretty good actually. Don't worry about the phone itself though. You still have a 1 year warranty which will still be honored should you require service. It's still a powerhouse of a phone and we're expecting an update here very soon. So... what's the problem? You guys are acting like it's the damn G1.
You know to be honest I was expecting a better phone to come out about a month after ours did. I'm surprised that it didn't. But I'm saying this to people that are suprised that in this day and technological age your phone is old and outdated before you can manage to buy accessories for it. Just look at it this way... iphone fans are constantly being screwed by Apple and their yearly releases! You wait in line overnight to buy the new iphone 4GS or whatever and nine months later Apple teases you with the new iphone 4GS2 for a super low price of $600 because you're still on contract. Else they can wait for another year for the release of the iphone 5 or whatever. It's a sales gimmick and that's all there is to it. Yet you guys are surpised to see this with HTC? Naive I think.
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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Samsung devices don't have to be worried about a locked bootloader either.
xManMythLegend said:
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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i dont see any progress on the sgs2 tmo version im further then them
Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Just a phone?? Watcha you mouth!
And.....you managed to get that damn song stuck in my head.
Yes its not the end of the world its just HTC Saying ok we aren't making the phone anymore tmobile n HTC aren't going to blow u off if u have a issue with it.
They are not going to make the phone anymore because of what's on the horizon. I say in about a month or two we will see a new HTC tmobile phone.
with ICS "wink"
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I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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samsung has horrible support for their phones, except for ones running vanilla android, they are incredibly slow when it comes to pushing out os updates, im almost certain htc will give us a stable ics before samsung does with the sgs2
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Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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It might be "just a phone" but I paid a large chunk of cash for my phone and I don't like getting screwed over by Google.......not to mention Apple's bait & switch marketing.
Smartphones "smart" once you find out your phone will be semi-obsolete as is the case here with Google trying to tell software & hardware developers what to do.
stefnuts
All of this is true but don't you all feel that the htc amaze is a bad phone? You can't have a case because you lose WiFi signal, you have to put electrical tape on the back of the phone to prevent the flash from messing up your pictures at night, the haptic key light bleeds in the screen, the faceplate on the back creaks really loud when putting pressure. I did not pay over 600 for a phone to have so many problems.
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T-mo news did post an article stating that the amaze 4g is reaching "end-of-life" and will he discontinued soon. This may lower our chance of getting more dev support, but let's be thankful for who we do have which is some great developers like xboarder, faux, and now nrg... Just have patience, soom good stuff is going to be coming to us in the near future, we just need to wait. No one has a perfectly running ICS with no bugs we arent far behind guys we will have what we want soon
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I do not see why it is such a big deal they won't be producing htc amaze anymore(if that is true). anyway even the htc ville we are expecting to come out in march or the samsung bliss, they have nothing special, same dual core cpu, same speed + the camera that the amaze has is one of the best in the market. So I find all this "worried about my amaze" a little too exaggerated. and yes it is just a phone, if you are concerned just go sell it back and buy a new one when it comes out. hope your worries about the htc amaze do not keep you from living a normal life...extra stress is never good
I love my Amaze. I knew about the "flaws" before I bought it. To my amazement, it's better than I thought and read about. I fortunately do not have the creaking back cover(there's a fix), Wi-Fi range is awesome even with a case, GPS locks in seconds even inside the house, battery life last all day, awesome ROMs available (thank you devs, you know who you are, lol) the list goes on. My 0.02
In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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Hello all thanks for stopping by. I have recently moved and settled to a new area and I bought my wife's and my phone straight out so we can switch at any time (or kill the contract if we moved outta the country). My android phones thus far have been the htc hero, lg optimus s, and the evo 3D. I got the evo 3d last june because I thought that it'd be like the original (tons of support, the next big thing, a crap ton of of mods). Little did I know that they would keep a lot of the drivers closed sourced and we as a community would have a few fantastic deves but would also run devs away (not just talking about the kernel devs over the past year quite a few have dropped by then been bashed and left). So my big question to everyone and indeed what I am pondering is.... Jump to a SIII as HTC and Sprint abandoned us or give HTC another shot? Both phones will have the same processor but im worried about samsung's build quality ...however I dont want htc to get my money blindly .... or i can just wait...? I dunno ...lol what is everyone else's thoughts?
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Hello all thanks for stopping by. I have recently moved and settled to a new area and I bought my wife's and my phone straight out so we can switch at any time (or kill the contract if we moved outta the country). My android phones thus far have been the htc hero, lg optimus s, and the evo 3D. I got the evo 3d last june because I thought that it'd be like the original (tons of support, the next big thing, a crap ton of of mods). Little did I know that they would keep a lot of the drivers closed sourced and we as a community would have a few fantastic deves but would also run devs away (not just talking about the kernel devs over the past year quite a few have dropped by then been bashed and left). So my big question to everyone and indeed what I am pondering is.... Jump to a SIII as HTC and Sprint abandoned us or give HTC another shot? Both phones will have the same processor but im worried about samsung's build quality ...however I dont want htc to get my money blindly .... or i can just wait...? I dunno ...lol what is everyone else's thoughts?
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Ya know what? Screw HTC!!! I only got the 3d cuz I knew, or at least thought, it would be getting ics. Turns out, now I'm in the us on Sprint mind u, that I really don't think that's going to happen anymore and I'm not going to sit around and wait. Yeah I could've downgraded hboot and rooted but I just thought intentionally bricking my device was absolutely foolish and didn't trust it. So I got the gsII and within min was running a fully rooted Sprint ics leak so easily my 3 yr.old could've done it! And with the size of this screen, the super amoled display, and speed, and boy do I mean speed of.this device, I will never, ever, buy another HTC device again! Just my two cents lol!
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Ya know what? Screw HTC!!! I only got the 3d cuz I knew, or at least thought, it would be getting ics. Turns out, now I'm in the us on Sprint mind u, that I really don't think that's going to happen anymore and I'm not going to sit around and wait. Yeah I could've downgraded hboot and rooted but I just thought intentionally bricking my device was absolutely foolish and didn't trust it. So I got the gsII and within min was running a fully rooted Sprint ics leak so easily my 3 yr.old could've done it! And with the size of this screen, the super amoled display, and speed, and boy do I mean speed of.this device, I will never, ever, buy another HTC device again! Just my two cents lol!
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How's the GPS on the gsII? I've never seen any Samsung with decent GPS or signal.
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t4d73 said:
Ya know what? Screw HTC!!! I only got the 3d cuz I knew, or at least thought, it would be getting ics. Turns out, now I'm in the us on Sprint mind u, that I really don't think that's going to happen anymore and I'm not going to sit around and wait. Yeah I could've downgraded hboot and rooted but I just thought intentionally bricking my device was absolutely foolish and didn't trust it. So I got the gsII and within min was running a fully rooted Sprint ics leak so easily my 3 yr.old could've done it! And with the size of this screen, the super amoled display, and speed, and boy do I mean speed of.this device, I will never, ever, buy another HTC device again! Just my two cents lol!
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Sprint is the issue. They are the final step before ICS is released. Follow the order: Google releases Android to the manufacturer > HTC tweaks it an adds Sense > HTC sends to carrier. HTC is not necessarily the blame here. There is a few threads dedicated to the speculation of the ICS release. IMO, it's still coming, but, just from the timing of things, they most likely delayed it so as not to conflict with the release of their new flagship, EVO 4G LTE (pushing more people to upgrade to that).
With the amount of reading and diving in to other forums because people ask me about their phones or I have actually rooted their phones, I prefer HTC phones regardless of the Evo 3D's lack of official ICS ROM (even though there is a VM leak and three ports available for it, one of those ports is a fully functional HTC Sense 3.5, which is what I am running) and the HBOOT 1.5 [email protected] (even though it's also mentioned that having HBOOT 1.5, rooted, S-ON and recovery 4EXT is the way to go).
I prefer the Sense interface. It's my preference. I love the ease of rooting (in most circumstances). I've had my experience of rooting a Samsung Captivate. It was eh. It was easy to root, but, when it came to custom stuff, just eh.
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How's the GPS on the gsII? I've never seen any Samsung with decent GPS or signal.
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GPS works fine. My wife prefers Samsungs and has the GSII. We've used her GPS several times around Savannah, GA and locally where we live and around Atlanta with no issue. Actually performed better than my Evo 3D at times.
It's more about what you like. I've had the hero, og evo, and now 3d. I still have a epic 4g I got for Christmas and my experience wasn't all that great with it until cm came along. I despise touchwiz although its getting better. Sense does make HTC phones run a little slower cause its a resource hog, but I just love sense. I suggest looking at both and deciding on what you are more comfortable with. Both the s3 and evo lte are great
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HTC or Samsung GIII
I'd have to, IMO, that the HTC is worth staying with HTC. I too thought about switching over to the SGIII but in the end, I'm going to stick it out with HTC, as the EVO 3D was my first HTC device and I will say I'm a little disappointed with their support of the device. I'll give them another chance with the EVO 4G LTE and see what happens. After all, I plan on being a smart phone user for way more than the standard 2 yr contract and will switch devices in the future if need be.
HTC has great devices and I can't stand hearing "3d will not get ics"
It's been confirmed. There are processes that have to be done before it will be out. I have seen new phones coming out with ics yes, but how many older devices have gotten officially updated yet. My buddy with T-Mobile who still hasn't seen his update. People just don't have any patience. If your on xda u have the ability to run ics. Either do it or wait.
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HTC has great devices and I can't stand hearing "3d will not get ics"
It's been confirmed. There are processes that have to be done before it will be out. I have seen new phones coming out with ics yes, but how many older devices have gotten officially updated yet. My buddy with T-Mobile who still hasn't seen his update. People just don't have any patience. If your on xda u have the ability to run ics. Either do it or wait.
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Um t-mobile gsII just got ics last night and where and when did Sprint Ever say the 3d was getting ics? I've been scouring the Web for months waiting for word and have never seen or heard Sprint officially say this. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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How's the GPS on the gsII? I've never seen any Samsung with decent GPS or signal.
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Actually great! I mean I'm not in the dessert our nothing but it works fine lol.
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Um t-mobile gsII just got ics last night and where and when did Sprint Ever say the 3d was getting ics? I've been scouring the Web for months waiting for word and have never seen or heard Sprint officially say this. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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It's been confirmed for june-july release, we just need to be patient. The leak is pretty damn good so far though
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It's been confirmed for june-july release, we just need to be patient. The leak is pretty damn good so far though
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Yeah buy HTC ur right. But that's probably gsm. Can anyone produce solid evidence by Sprint though? Other than the video of a guy saying June timeframe which honestly just could have been that dudes long lost cousin lol.
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Yeah buy HTC ur right. But that's probably gsm. Can anyone produce solid evidence by Sprint though? Other than the video of a guy saying June timeframe which honestly just could have been that dudes long lost cousin lol.
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Anyone?
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I hate polls you can't see them on Tapatalk. But I think it looks like all we will ever have is root.
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Do you guys know what a self-fulfilling prophecy is? Honestly, I think it will happen, ive learned a lot just so I can try to help solve this too. The more negative people are about it though the less likely people will be to discuss it or be motivated to do it.
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Realistically the only people "qualified" to answer this question would be a developer working on this. Anything a normal user says is pure speculation.
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I don't mind speculation.
If enough of us wish for it to happen than maybe it will (remember Peter Pan?)
There's a way around everything.
Self fulfilling prophecy theory is lame. Not only is it fake but a lazy way to think. The only ones who can figure it out are the ones trying to hack it. The rest of the people can think whatever they want. They have no impact on it happening or not.
With that said I do not believe this will be unlocked. The beauty of design in this thing limits the amount of roads one can take to attack it. Its never been cracked and its been tried for well over a year spanning multiple devices. We only had a *unlock* because of leaked info. That's it. If that didn't happen we would all have nothing.
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I am optimistic but honestly I will likely be on the next device GN3 or something else long before it happens. Yet I still offered up my money to help motivate those who can get it done.
Odds Key Lime Pie for S4 happens?
As a previous Verizon user, I don't see this being unlocked.. Sorry
Not holding my breath. Anyone like to purchase a brand new GS4? I will never buy another phone before doing some homework. Good luck to those trying.
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The real question isn't will it be unlocked (it won't be). It's will a leaked unlocked bootloader become available.
This is basically bad new for anyone wanting a phone with SDcard support and an unlocked boot loader in the future on VZW or AT&T. Samsung is the only SD option now... And it looks like they've got this boot loader thing locked down (no pun intended), at least when it comes up Qualcomm. If the Note 3 uses an s800, I don't see why the boot loader situation would be any different from the S4 and S4 active...
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Vote with your goddamned wallets!
I hate to also be the voice of reason but the sad reality is that this booting processes is sealed up tight and it's all Verizon's doing. I'm here for my room mate who hates his stock S4 with a passion but absolutely loves my CM10.x+OC S4...I just switched from Sprint to T-Mobile, for networks. I considered Verizon and ATT but having had friends with Verizon phones (Motos especially) over the past few years I knew that it was nearly pointless, save for a leaked engineering/unlocked signed bootloader or 1 chance at an exploit on release-day firmware before it was sealed up tight and likely for good.
It's not that I have no hope, there's always a chance and there is always a way...but with each successive breach of such a system the next iteration becomes exponentially more difficult to overcome.
I stuck with Sprint's haggard network for years because I knew they didn't give phone hackers a hard time. I switched to T-Mobile because I did my research and found the same. HTC capitulated on their new locked and encryption signed bootloaders after the EVO3D debacle a few years back.
As for my new Samsung Galaxy S4? I had my phone for 20 minutes before I flashed a custom recovery and had a CM10.1 nightly running with a custom 2.2ghz OC kernel that comes with tons of governors, tons of IO schedulers...on light use with screen turned down low, OC'd to 135mhz/2.1ghz I can get almost 2 days out of my phone and it is smooth as effing silk like no phone I've ever seen...and I've had no wakelock problems.
This phone screams.
Am I bragging? Sure...but not to hurt your feelings. I'm sick of companies acting like THEY own the computer that YOU bought for YOUR pocket. I'm bragging to enrage you.
Vote with your goddamned wallets. I did when HTC wouldn't unload their bootlockers (lol), and Samsung will forever have my business unless they start that crap too (or their phones start to suck)....same goes for T-Mobile. (Protip: stick to the underdogs. You get far better customer service and far more leeway...when you are #1 and #2 you appear to not need to try anymore and treating your customers like idiot children and criminals is somehow acceptable).
This isn't Samsung's doing...ask any Sprint, T-Mobile or international model owners.
Vote with your goddamned wallets.
I wish the best to you my brethren. Good luck and happy hacking.
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This was a depressing thread
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Yeah I agree...I'm sorry for starting it
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ntb81 said:
Yeah I agree...I'm sorry for starting it
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Lol.
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I wouldn't give out hope. The Droid dna took ages but they finally got it. Sometimes it just takes time. Be patient.
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There's a way around everything.
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True, but sometimes the trip the way around is so long, almost nobody will care in the end.