Hard Reset - Resets Internal Memory? Really? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

All,
I just performed a Hard Reset afterI bricked my SGT using Supercharger and to my surprise all the data from internal storage was erased too. How stupid is that?
Samsung could have been smarter and prevented that.

Well thats what a hard reset is, otherwise its called a soft reset.....
This isnt something new

DT3CH said:
Well thats what a hard reset is, otherwise its called a soft reset.....
This isnt something new
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I am not talking about the ROM memory, of course it is cleared and the ROM is reloaded, how stupid do you think I am?
I was talking about the memory that you use for storing data. I had my Music and apks on the Tab's \sdcard and all is gone after a hard reset - this is total stupidity on Samsung's side.

Szadzik said:
I am not talking about the ROM memory, of course it is cleared and the ROM is reloaded, how stupid do you think I am?
I was talking about the memory that you use for storing data. I had my Music and apks on the Tab's \sdcard and all is gone after a hard reset - this is total stupidity on Samsung's side.
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Well ya since it only has 1 internal card for storage, what do you expect, on a phone its not as much of an issue since you generally have an external SD card too....
Its the same as formatting a partition on your computer, so same thinking applies, back up your data elsewhere

Ya. Wouldn't you use the hard reset function to wipe the device before giving it away or sending it in for repair or something. I would expect that so that data didn't get into someone else's hands.
Not to mention when you choose factory data reset it tells you that it will erase all data including accounts, music, etc...

The main thing here is that Honeycomb devices does not have a real fat32 formatted sdcard partition. The sdcard is emulated from a part of the /data partition that is in ext4 if i understand correct.
This is also why it mounts as a MTP device instead of a drive in Windows.
I was also suprised the first time i did a factory reset, i was used to my old Galaxy S phone and there the sdcard was never wiped with a factory reset.
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qsec said:
The main thing here is that Honeycomb devices does not have a real fat32 formatted sdcard partition. The sdcard is emulated from a part of the /data partition that is in ext4 if i understand correct.
This is also why it mounts as a MTP device instead of a drive in Windows.
I was also suprised the first time i did a factory reset, i was used to my old Galaxy S phone and there the sdcard was never wiped with a factory reset.
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Exactly what Iwas thinking as previously memory was never cleared on my Android devices, just the ROM. This is totally stupid. Now I have to carry a card reader and an SD card with my stuff so that if I have to do a hard reset on the go I can restore it from the card - stupid again. Some will say use dropbox, and I will say: Have you ever tried downloading 200MB when roaming? DO you have a wallet that fat?

I'm pretty sure that in cwm recovery the "sdcard" won't be erased when doing a factory reset. Only the stock recovery will delete your "sdcard". I too had to wipe after flashing some mod and my /sdcard wasn't touched when I remember correctly.

gokpog said:
I'm pretty sure that in cwm recovery the "sdcard" won't be erased when doing a factory reset. Only the stock recovery will delete your "sdcard". I too had to wipe after flashing some mod and my /sdcard wasn't touched when I remember correctly.
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Thanks, I have to try that.

qsec said:
The main thing here is that Honeycomb devices does not have a real fat32 formatted sdcard partition. The sdcard is emulated from a part of the /data partition that is in ext4 if i understand correct.
This is also why it mounts as a MTP device instead of a drive in Windows.
I was also suprised the first time i did a factory reset, i was used to my old Galaxy S phone and there the sdcard was never wiped with a factory reset.
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Uhhh anytime Ive done a hard reset on my SGS, it wipes the internal card....

Yes for my understanding the stock recovery will erase everything instead of using the cwm recovery.this would never touch your sdcard. Regards
Relaxxer
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Factory reset erases everything?

Will a factory reset erase everything in the internal (16gb or 32gb) ie, pictures, music, and/or other data? Or does it just reset the rom only?
really? I answered this in the other thread you asked it no need to create another thread
fatboypup said:
really? I answered this in the other thread you asked it no need to create another thread
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I understand but I figured Id ask in general section so the ones who actually have the device (international) can confirm since no one in the Sprint thread has the s3 yet. You did answer in regards to the s2 and do appreciate the reply.
If you do it in settings it will wipe everything including pictures
On the galaxy Note, when you did the reset under settings it ask you to check USB. which did wipe everythin....i have not seen this in sgs3 it just asked to reset and then clear all. but all my folders and app data where still there.
so in order to do a REAL wipe, i use clock work mode and just format cache, format system and format data.
the one in the setting menu SHOULD wipe everything though.
the2rrell said:
On the galaxy Note, when you did the reset under settings it ask you to check USB. which did wipe everythin....i have not seen this in sgs3 it just asked to reset and then clear all. but all my folders and app data where still there.
so in order to do a REAL wipe, i use clock work mode and just format cache, format system and format data.
the one in the setting menu SHOULD wipe everything though.
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I have done it and it said everything will be erased including photos. All I had on the internal, themes, custom roms disappeared
Factory reset returns the device to factory default settings, in other words it wipes the entire data partition.
i have had to send two s 3s back .
i have factory reset both and yes it wipes everything except external sd
delsus said:
Factory reset returns the device to factory default settings, in other words it wipes the entire data partition.
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And all the rest, data partition doesn´t has its own partition anymore
sewe said:
And all the rest, data partition doesn´t has its own partition anymore
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Damn I need to get up to date, damn my phone.
YES!
Any factory reset will delete all your stuff on your phone unless you have a sd card. An sd card is completely apart from your phone. Hope that helped man and god bless! Go androids!
512jmann10 said:
Any factory reset will delete all your stuff on your phone unless you have a sd card. An sd card is completely apart from your phone. Hope that helped man and god bless! Go androids!
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Sort of, it didn´t do that on sgs, sgs2 and other samsung phones before.
They have separate data partitions that are erased and all the rest remains
delsus said:
Factory reset returns the device to factory default settings, in other words it wipes the entire data partition.
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Useful thread
Will a factory reset restore a rooted phone to its previous un-rooted status?
Dont think its that simple
No, the /system/ partition will remain as-is. Only the cache and data partition are formatted.
Unrooting is not that difficult. Ok somewhat more difficult than this but still 5 minutes away...
Why do people post questions in general... I don't get it.. and no, a "general" question is not what this section is for. :banghead:
sent from my Galaxy S III
If you want to erase everything, you need to go to settings/storage, and format the internal sd after you do the factory reset.
Thanks guys for the reply. Its a bummer that it wipes everything as I do not want to have to back up things in the internal. The hard part too is when backing up game data. They're all over the place and sometimes I can't tell what the app is just by the folder name. Then you have to back up picture videos etc. Then having to transfer them back to the phone later if you do end up factory resetting. I'm hoping there will be a way around it later on. I could use GL to SD so game data are stored in the external SD but this means getting a 32gb S3 is kind of a waste but at least its already backed up in the card.
And I apologize for putting this in the general thread...it was too late by the time I posted so I couldnt change. Mod can move to Q&A if it needs to be there.
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Factory reset+flash wiped my memory

Hi All,
I did a factory reset today and flashed the stock 4.1.1 Polish ROM via Odin. This process seems to have wiped my files (including photos etc) from my S3 (internal memory, not SD card). I've flashed plenty of ROMS before and this has never happened.
Anyone know if it's possible to get them back? I guess I've installed new apps etc now so a lot of the data would have been overwritten. Frustrating!
Thanks for any tips.
UnitedWeFall said:
Hi All,
I did a factory reset today and flashed the stock 4.1.1 Polish ROM via Odin. This process seems to have wiped my files (including photos etc) from my S3 (internal memory, not SD card). I've flashed plenty of ROMS before and this has never happened.
Anyone know if it's possible to get them back? I guess I've installed new apps etc now so a lot of the data would have been overwritten. Frustrating!
Thanks for any tips.
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You answered your own question with your first sentence : I did a factory reset...
Unfortunately its not possible to get back the data
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Unless you backed up on PC or sd card...
Factory reset in S3 will always wipe internal memory as it shares internal memory for applications.
If you want to restore try some data recovery software that supports SD card.
ultramag69 said:
Unless you backed up on PC or sd card...
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That would be the only way. There is a very small window to recover data wiped from flash memory and on a phone it would be even more difficult. Maybe a Clockwork backup?
Internal SDcard is mounted on the system partition via Fuse..so if you format the /system partition..sdcard is formatted as well..
Pointers for future..
Use CWM for flashing ROMS..(I hate Odin )
Backup your internal SDcard on your PC regularly
Perform a Nandroid Backup on your ExtSDcard before flashing any ROM.
If you ever need to factory reset..use the wipe data/factory reset option in CWM and not in Stock Recovery
For a clean install, if you want to wipe system partition..use wipe /system option under mount and format in CWM..it just wipes the system files and your SDcard data will be safe..
You will not face such issues if you in the future if you follow these pointers.
zoot1 said:
Internal SDcard is mounted on the system partition via Fuse..so if you format the /system partition..sdcard is formatted as well..
Pointers for future..
Use CWM for flashing ROMS..(I hate Odin )
Backup your internal SDcard on your PC regularly
Perform a Nandroid Backup on your ExtSDcard before flashing any ROM.
If you ever need to factory reset..use the wipe data/factory reset option in CWM and not in Stock Recovery
For a clean install, if you want to wipe system partition..use wipe /system option under mount and format in CWM..it just wipes the system files and your SDcard data will be safe..
You will not face such issues if you in the future if you follow these pointers.
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Thanks for that. Lesson learnt I guess..

Factory Reset Doesnt Delete Internal SD Files.

Hellow,
Well i have done a factory Reset and Wipe Partiition/cache from Sgh-i727 Recovery Mode (Stock Rom) and i still can see all the files that i have in internal SD Card. The phone has return to factory settings, but the data still remains. I have already done a Back Up of all my files using Titanium Back up but the problem still remains 6 GBS of information i had before the reset 6 GB i have now after the reset.
Any Ideas? Does not suppose to erase all the data the factory reset function?
Thank you
Constanine.
1. Factory reset will NOT touch your internal SD partition, meaning all your personal stuffs as well as some folders created by apps will be intact.
2. If you want to wipe all those, try do format usb or something.
3. This is for i777, not i727.
Oh i see. Thank you very much for your answer. To do a format to Internal SD Card what i am supposed to do? Sorry for the wrong thread.
dreico33 said:
Oh i see. Thank you very much for your answer. To do a format to Internal SD Card what i am supposed to do? Sorry for the wrong thread.
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Type "format SD" into Google and see.
From me to you.
None of the custom recoveries will wipe sdcard in recovery unless you specifically wipe it in the menus. Theres an entire option just for that purpose
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[Q] Low storage for apps to Beanstalk 4.4.2 KITKAT(for p880)

I have tried the Rom Beanstalk 4.4.2 KITKAT the LG Optimus 4x HD from here -->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2585844 . Stable with good use of the phone and battery and quick. After 10 days , some applications of the Google Play Store as other outside , could not do the installation by displaying the message Error - There is not enough storage space .
By checking the internal storage of the phone and the external memory microsd realized that I have enough free space - > internal storage : 9,11 gb of 12.26gb card and external sd: 29,69 gb of 31,24 gb.
I searched on Google and found a related link --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1665742 so that I can find a solution but nothing happened .
I tried factory data reset the phone and again and flashing the Rom Beanstalk 4.4.2 KITKAT but still not corrected the problem . After some time I again presented .
What could be wrong do you know ;
To you presented this problem ...!
If so did you find a solution ... ;
I recommend backing up your internal storage to a PC and then formatting your storage in recovery and putting everything back on. This should clear this up. Often times, CM based stuff will be installed in /data/media/0 and just doubles up with that and the stuff you already have one /data/media and fills up available app space.
es0tericcha0s said:
I recommend backing up your internal storage to a PC and then formatting your storage in recovery and putting everything back on. This should clear this up. Often times, CM based stuff will be installed in /data/media/0 and just doubles up with that and the stuff you already have one /data/media and fills up available app space.
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Thank you about your informations but I tried factory data reset the phone and again and flashing the Rom Beanstalk 4.4.2 KITKAT but still not corrected the problem . After some time I again presented .
Agotel said:
Thank you about your informations but I tried factory data reset the phone and again and flashing the Rom Beanstalk 4.4.2 KITKAT but still not corrected the problem . After some time I again presented .
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I was not talking about doing a factory reset. I suggested to wipe your internal storage. This is what your phone sees as /sdcard. You must transfer your stuff from the phone to PC if you wish to keep the files as wiping your internal storage will delete whatever is on /sdcard.
es0tericcha0s said:
I was not talking about doing a factory reset. I suggested to wipe your internal storage. This is what your phone sees as /sdcard. You must transfer your stuff from the phone to PC if you wish to keep the files as wiping your internal storage will delete whatever is on /sdcard.
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Thank you, I will try it but in recovery mode there are two choices, 1 wipe data/factory reset and 2 wipe cache partition. Which one? And I must take out the external sd card before do the wipe my internal storage? There is a problem?
Agotel said:
Thank you, I will try it but in recovery mode there are two choices, 1 wipe data/factory reset and 2 wipe cache partition. Which one? And I must take out the external sd card before do the wipe my internal storage? There is a problem?
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Sounds like you must be using some form of CWM recovery. If that is so, then you will find the option under Mounts and Storage - Format /sdcard.
You do not need to take out the external, and wouldn't hurt to have a backup of your rom to restore from there, if necessary. Just remember that if you don't back up your internal storage and you format /sdcard - everything will be gone. This means media, pictures, app data that is saved there, etc.
es0tericcha0s said:
Sounds like you must be using some form of CWM recovery. If that is so, then you will find the option under Mounts and Storage - Format /sdcard.
You do not need to take out the external, and wouldn't hurt to have a backup of your rom to restore from there, if necessary. Just remember that if you don't back up your internal storage and you format /sdcard - everything will be gone. This means media, pictures, app data that is saved there, etc.
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Thank you very much my friend!
You are flawless ...!
I made the whole process as you told me on the phone and works all very nice..
Being well...!
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Agotel said:
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Thank you very much my friend!
You are flawless ...!
I made the whole process as you told me on the phone and works all very nice..
Being well...!
:good:
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Awesome! Glad all is well. Enjoy your phone.

What gets wiped on factory reset?

Sorry if this is quite a noobish question, but I'm a bit confused after not doing this for a while. On my Note, I used to wipe and flash new roms all the time. I haven't yet done that with my M8 so it's been quite a while. I remember when I used to factory reset, I'd always still have my pictures and music (all I really care about). Now I'm reading up on it and it's telling me everything gets wiped, unless on my SD card.
Well, I didn't use to keep everything on my SD card. I know I have pictures and music stored on both. Will my media on my phone's storage get wiped?
Factory reset just wipes /data partition. Internal storage should be left intact. There might be some variation based on where you do your wipes: recovery, within OS, or hboot (wipe from hboot not recommended on modded phones). But I believe for the most part, its as I mentioned (/data gets wiped, probably cache as well, internal storage is left untouched). In TWRP, it specially states that factory reset wipes /data, cache, and Dalvik (which resides on the /data partition anyways); and that "most of the time this is the only wipe that you need."
Default save locations for TWRP and Titanium Backup are internal storage (although you can change it to the removable SD). So it would be self-defeating if a factory reset then wiped those backups from internal storage.
But you should always back your personal data anyway (especially memories like pics and videos you took). Lots of ways to do so, from automated clouds solutions; or just plug your phone to your computer, then drag and drop. Its not unheard of that internal storage gets corrupted when wiping or flashing a ROM, or just from day to day use for that matter. Back it up, and avoid regret.
redpoint73 said:
Factory reset just wipes /data partition. Internal storage should be left intact. There might be some variation based on where you do your wipes: recovery, within OS, or hboot (wipe from hboot not recommended on modded phones). But I believe for the most part, its as I mentioned (/data gets wiped, probably cache as well, internal storage is left untouched). In TWRP, it specially states that factory reset wipes /data, cache, and Dalvik (which resides on the /data partition anyways); and that "most of the time this is the only wipe that you need."
Default save locations for TWRP and Titanium Backup are internal storage (although you can change it to the removable SD). So it would be self-defeating if a factory reset then wiped those backups from internal storage.
But you should always back your personal data anyway (especially memories like pics and videos you took). Lots of ways to do so, from automated clouds solutions; or just plug your phone to your computer, then drag and drop. Its not unheard of that internal storage gets corrupted when wiping or flashing a ROM, or just from day to day use for that matter. Back it up, and avoid regret.
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That's what I thought. And I'd always used TWRP or CWM before, and this always left my SD card and internal storage intact. Now, however, I'm fully stock and would be doing this through the OS, so I wasn't sure if this operated differently. I see many articles stating it wipes everything. So I just want to verify that the OS factory reset functions just the same as the TWRP reset and will leave my media intact. I will of course back everything up, but I'd rather install TWRP and reset that way if the OS reset would wipe everything completely. (If I remember correctly on my Note, there is a separate 'format drive' button used to actually wipe internal and external media).
If anyone could just confirm once again before I proceed. BTW, thanks a lot redpoint, you're always a huge help on here.
I couldn't say with any certainty how the reset in OS settings works. Especially since it doesn't even say "factory reset" anymore (which was always a bit of a misnomer, anyway) but now says Reset phone Reset all data on phone. I have to say, it does sound a bit ominous!
After owning 6 Android devices, I've done a factory/data reset in OS a total of none times.
I think this explains it pretty well, looks like it gives you the option to erase sd card after you start: http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8/howto/465049.html
Sorry guys, guess if I tried it I could've answered my own question. The HTC version actually specifically tells you what it's going to erase and then gives you the option for wiping internal storage and SD card.
cgibsong002 said:
Sorry guys, guess if I tried it I could've answered my own question. The HTC version actually specifically tells you what it's going to erase and then gives you the option for wiping internal storage and SD card.
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Good to know, as I believe this has changed over time. On some previous HTC devices, I believe factory reset in settings just wiped user data, and didn't give the mentioned options to wipe internal storage and removable MicroSD. So it seems they made it work the way it should work.
Well, I thought everything went smoothly. Thought I backed up everything I needed. Turns out I can't find any of my contacts from the past year or so. Any ideas?? I know I had basically everything syncing before. I reloaded my google account, my HTC account (sync is greyed out), ATT Address book. There's a million things used to back up, I don't understand how my contacts could disappear.
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Well, I thought everything went smoothly. Thought I backed up everything I needed. Turns out I can't find any of my contacts from the past year or so. Any ideas?? I know I had basically everything syncing before. I reloaded my google account, my HTC account (sync is greyed out), ATT Address book. There's a million things used to back up, I don't understand how my contacts could disappear.
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Did you have all your contacts backed up to Gmail?
redpoint73 said:
Did you have all your contacts backed up to Gmail?
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I was under the impression I did, but they're not there. What about the HTC backup? I thought that's why I signed up for an HTC account. And then the ATT Address book. I can't find anything
cgibsong002 said:
I was under the impression I did, but they're not there. What about the HTC backup? I thought that's why I signed up for an HTC account. And then the ATT Address book. I can't find anything
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I've only ever used Gmail for backing up contacts, so sorry I can't really help as far as the HTC Backup or ATT Address Book.
So I just updated to 5.0 and I need to do a factory reset.. some things are a bit buggy. However, it appears the reset options have changed. It now specifically states it will erase all media including photos and music from your internal storage. Before proceeding, it gives another warming that all media will be erased. Can anyone confirm pictures and music are actually deleted? I don't think I've ever done a factory reset that erased my stuff like that.
Edit: so yeah Lollipop does a full wipe. New thread to figure out best way around this.

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