I have a Google Voice number local to my area code that forward to my pbxes.org account, which in turn takes the call and sends it to my phone via the SipDroid app. I can make incoming/outgoing calls all day long for free, but have a problem with call quality.
I have linked two voicemail files. I placed a call from SipDroid out to the same number in both cases, but one was done over WiFi and the other over 3G (2-3 bars, average signal). The WiFi one is acceptable, but the 3G one is not. Listen for yourself (For the message, I read one of the opening paragraphs from the US Declaration of Independence, same on both so you can compare accurately.)
Setup: Google Voice number -> pbxes.org -> SipDroid app
Wifi VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-wifi.wav
3G VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-3g.wav
Now, with that said you need to understand my intent. I am wanting to use my Google Voice number for work, as my off-hours support phone, so I do not accrue charges on my personal cell plan (not covered by employer, and they do not provide work mobile phones). So, since I am usually on the go, I will not be connected to WiFi, thus I need a reliable VOIP option that will get acceptable call quality over 3G. There are multiple options out there, and I do not have a problem with a monthly fee, but they all come with caveats. For example, if I got an "Online Number" from Skype, and just forwarded my Google Voice number to that, it would work through the Skype app, no SIP app needed; however, the Skype voicemail cannot be disabled, so I can no longer use the Google Voice app to easily see my support calls/messages from my home screen. I have use the Skype app (or website) to listen to voicemails. Skype would solve my quality problem (based on reviews of other users that use it over 3G), but introduce the new voicemail issue. The setup I have now (GV->pbxes->SipDroid) allows me to use the GV voicemail, but quality is lacking...catch 22. Is there a better more reliable solution out there for VOIP on Android? I am fine with paying
There's also the Google Callback app, that I have been trying to avoid at all costs, since it is kind of hokey, and I tried the GrooVe IP app, but it has a lot of echo for the person I am calling, and no setting change could fix it.
p.s. - I will be updating my phone from the DroidX (3G only) to the Bionic (4G). If you think that will make a difference, and make all my concerns moot, then just say so, and that's what I'll do
Thanks!!
Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
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Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
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Already tried that, and every option in between, including the manual millisecond settings.
Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
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Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
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Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
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Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
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I'm also an early adapter of GV voip service.
I'm using Dell streak 7 (dual core 512 mb ram, horrible software config, honeycomb 3.2)
I manage to have stable voip quality with clear portable 4g hotspot connected through wifi. Unlimited calls and data, pretty cool. However, talking through a bluetooth device and 3GHSPA+ have been horrible. My friends keep complaining about bad call quality until I find this issues. If calling through wifi (I use groove ip) with internal mic and speaker, everything is fine. I guess it's either due to bad hardware coding of the streak 7 or due to the narrow bandwith of the bluetooth 2.1 or 3G. I'm not familiar with the tech details of streak 7.
I'm gonna try the new nexus 7 and sony xperia z ultra to see if any issues above can be solved.
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I am not advertising this app, I am just sharing what I saw. Thought this was pretty Handy for International Travelers or anyone.
Free Unlimited Google Voice Calls Over Wi-Fi or 3G (Android App: GrooVe IP) Uses No Minutes! $3.99 in Android Market
I personally don't have much use for this but for some people, I can see this app being pretty handy. Basically, in conjunction with Google Voice, this Android app lets you make and receive free calls over Wi-Fi or 3G/4G without using any of your minutes. It's a fairly new app so there might still be some bugs but the developer seems to update it regularly. The app costs $3.99 in the Android Market. Seems like a hot deal to me. Details are below:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip
Description
Voice without Minutes!
This app, in conjunction with Google Voice, lets you make unlimited calls to any phone in US or Canada using the data connection of your mobile device without using up any of your mobile minutes! Once you get a free public phone number from Google Voice, you can use this app to make or receive calls to/from anyone in the world. (For details of how to get a free US phone number, the low international calling rates, or any other details, please visit the Google Voice web site at http://www.google.com/voice.)
This app supports making and receiving calls using Wi-Fi and/or 3G/4G data connections. It brings the power of Google Voice to you without the need to use any of your mobile minutes. You get all the advanced voice features provided by Google Voice on your mobile device. These features include:
- A single number that rings you anywhere
- Online voicemail--transcribed messages delivered to your inbox
- Free calls within US and Canada, and super low rates everywhere else
- The ability to send incoming call to voicemail
- Incoming call recording
- And many, many more...
It's like having two-phones-in-one. For example, you can use your original phone number for business and use the new one for personal use.
This app is also perfect for you if you are in a location with poor or no mobile reception but still have Internet connectivity over Wi-Fi.
Take your number with you when traveling with GrooVe IP! If you are traveling overseas, now you no longer have to be without a cell phone, or aquire a local cell phone in the country you are visiting. You can use your GrooVe IP phone to make and receive calls as long as you have a Wi-Fi connection.
If you have a smart phone with Wi-Fi connectivity but no mobile plan, you can use this app to convert it to a free, full-featured working phone.
This app has a separate dialer that can be used to make calls. Alternatively, the native dialer/call-log/contacts/favorite functionality can be shared between the "two phones" on a call-by-call basis.
** NOTE ** Please ensure that your Google Voice account is associated with either a gmail or google apps account.
** NOTE ** To receive incoming calls you MUST go into your Google Voice account and forward calls to Google Chat. You may also need to sign out of Google Chat or Google Talk in other locations as calls are only routed to one sign-in.
Thanks, yes I be been using it and it works well.
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I've also been using it...
...with minimal troubles:
I use it exclusively via wifi, and have to use Tasker and the Google Voice Settings Plugin to uncheck mobile #, and check gtalk as forwarded phones. I believe that this should be a setting that might be built into the app, as it would make it much more useable, imho. The tasker workaround, however, did have the added benefit of allowing me to also disable the phone radio, while wifi connected, to save power, etc...
I often leave gmail page open on one or more of my computers, and this confuses incoming calls, so must log out of all, as calls can only be routed to one gtalk client at a time (Google's issue)...
Nearly as often as not, when I receive an incoming call, the GrooveIP dialer does not open to permit acceptance, and I have to chase it into the taskbar, to answer. Also, not quite as often, when I do answer, the call connects just long enough for a "hello", before the wifi connection dies, and the call is disconnected. No other apps do this, nor do any of my other wifi client systems lose connectivity when it happens, so I'm guessing it's the GrooveIP app, tho I cannot say for sure...
Otherwise, it'll soon completely replace my cell-service, once our car and truck are fully outfitted with carputers and 3G/4G data, so I'm excited to see their progress!!
i will be spending a week in japan (narita/ tokyo) next month and would like to stay connected (voice, texting, data) while there. however, i'd like to do this in the most cost-effective (ie cheap as possible) way.
i am currently with an AT&T plan. my SGH-i777 is rooted, running CM7, and is sim-unlocked.
where do i go from here?
will i be able to use this phone at all?
can i buy a prepaid sim and use that instead for the duration of the week?
rental phones? (i have read about rental phones, etc, but it seems you may be required to present local (japanese) id.)
sweetrobot said:
i will be spending a week in japan (narita/ tokyo) next month and would like to stay connected (voice, texting, data) while there. however, i'd like to do this in the most cost-effective (ie cheap as possible) way.
i am currently with an AT&T plan. my SGH-i777 is rooted, running CM7, and is sim-unlocked.
where do i go from here?
will i be able to use this phone at all?
can i buy a prepaid sim and use that instead for the duration of the week?
rental phones? (i have read about rental phones, etc, but it seems you may be required to present local (japanese) id.)
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My guess would be a prepaid SIM. I THINK the I777 has support for the bands that NTT DoCoMo uses.
I don't know how much prepaid SIMs in Japan cost or their cost effectiveness though. Probably better to ask in a forum related to travel/tourism in Japan since that's a generic non-phone-specific question once you go beyond band support.
I have used this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/international/roaming/travel-guide.jsp
Click on "Use the Travel Guide" and select your country and phone. It says the I777 is compatible with both voice and data.
But prepaid SIM is definitely the way to go.
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. . . But prepaid SIM is definitely the way to go.
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Forget about a prepaid sim from docomo they want all sorts of paper work. Either long term stay or id papers (Japan is rather xenophobic) softbank does have prepaid but you will need a Japanese friend to get it for you. Other than that check with some sellers online that sell multi national prepaid sims. Att will screw you over with international charges
I forgot to mention you may be able to find a raku raku phone ( prepaid ) not sure if it comes with a sim or not though
Go to Howardforums.com and look in the Japanese phone section. They may have some more answers for you
Check out xcom global WiFi hotspot. Easiest way to stay connected.
hexproject said:
Check out xcom global WiFi hotspot. Easiest way to stay connected.
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Damn! Wish i saw this earlier- leaving in a few hours.
I will 100% keep it in mind.
Anyway, definitely not going the prepaid phone or sim way, as the rates, aside from all the paperwork as mentioned, are higher thant he romaing rates i will gfet by simply using at&t. also, at&t will work on nttdocomo and softbank networks, which have the biggest presence in the regions i will be visiting.
thanks for the suggestions and ideas!
so, i just got back.
first, after calling at&t, i had to enable roaming on my account (free setting so one can connect to the carriers while romaing), which enabled me to connect to either softbank or ntt docomo, both of which had equally great signal in tokyo- ginza area. worked well in shibuya, and roppongi as well.
i had disabled data while roaming, and also disabled the auto-retrieve of sms. for some reason, sms messages came through anyway... is that an issue with my rom (cm7)?
since we had wifi in our room, i used the Viber app for voip calling, text and picture messages, while google voice via the Groove IP app for calling anyone who didn't have Viber, including landlines in the US and canada. Groove IP is a must if you plan on calling any US/ canada numbers while away- the voice quality was nearly flawless, and you can also receive calls if you enable call-forwarding on your carrier, and set google voice to forward calls to google chat (which end up in Groove IP).
if anyone else is travelling, and needs some suggestions, just post a reply. i think now, after the fact in my case , i have it all down.
I'm deploying to Kuwait. Definitely keeping this thread in mind!
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I'm deploying to Kuwait. Definitely keeping this thread in mind!
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Foremost, no matter the country you represent, thanks for your support!
Now, this sounds like you will be there a while. I'm guessing you will have some basic wifi access while at base. If that's the case, I recommend a few things:
1. Get Viber. It's completely free. No ads, no signup! It automatically scans your contact list and will tell you what other users in your existing contact list have Viber installed. It works on Android and iOS, so be sure to tell those you most often talk to to also get Viber. It's by far one of the most transparently integrated applications I've used in that it has no learning curve, and works immediately out of the box.
The downsides are: requires a data connection (in your case, wifi), and both parties must have the app installed. Other than that, sending pictures and texts is a breeze, and voice quality is superb over wifi. Keep in mind, the other party can receive your communication via Viber simply over their 3g/4g, and don't necessarily have to be on wifi themselves.
2. Assuming you are based in the US or Canada, get yourself a Google Voice account setup asap, if not already done. This allows you to call any phone (mobile or landline) in those regions entirely free. You can call using your computer while on wifi.
3. Get Groove IP. Grovoe IP requires a Google Voice account. Pairing the two allows you to make and receive calls on your mobile, using data, or wifi.
The power of using Google Voice paired with Groove IP is that, while you're on wifi when abroad, you can call a mobile or landline directly- unlike in Viber's case, whereby you can only call another Viber user on their mobile. Also, this combination, allows you to send sms, though not any picture messages- can always use email for that.
Additionally, you can receive calls via the Groove IP setup from any number(you must setup GV to forward to Google Chat- this step is in the setup instructions of Groove IP).
So, the ideal setup is this:
Get Viber, and tell all your family members and friends to get it as well
Setup Google Voice and Groove IP
Before leaving, get your phone setup to forward all calls to your GV number, and in turn, setup GV to forward calls to Google Chat (which ends up in Groove IP on your mobile).
So, when you are at the base, and have your handset connected to wifi, as long as GrooveIP and Viber are running, you will be fully connected. Anyone calling your regular number as if you had never left will be able to reach you, as will any of the Viber users calling via mobile.
Sorry for the long-winded rant, but I hope I've covered some useful ground, which worked well through my experience anyway.
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Just to mention the obvious- don't forget google chat- as long as you are on wifi, and so is the other party, you can do voice or video chat. There is modded version of google talk so at least the other party with 3g/4g access does not have to also use wifi.
MaxRabbit said:
I'm deploying to Kuwait. Definitely keeping this thread in mind!
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Lucky, we aren't allowed to bring cell phones.
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sweetrobot said:
Foremost, no matter the country you represent, thanks for your support!
Now, this sounds like you will be there a while. I'm guessing you will have some basic wifi access while at base. If that's the case, I recommend a few things:
1. Get Viber. It's completely free. No ads, no signup! It automatically scans your contact list and will tell you what other users in your existing contact list have Viber installed. It works on Android and iOS, so be sure to tell those you most often talk to to also get Viber. It's by far one of the most transparently integrated applications I've used in that it has no learning curve, and works immediately out of the box.
The downsides are: requires a data connection (in your case, wifi), and both parties must have the app installed. Other than that, sending pictures and texts is a breeze, and voice quality is superb over wifi. Keep in mind, the other party can receive your communication via Viber simply over their 3g/4g, and don't necessarily have to be on wifi themselves.
2. Assuming you are based in the US or Canada, get yourself a Google Voice account setup asap, if not already done. This allows you to call any phone (mobile or landline) in those regions entirely free. You can call using your computer while on wifi.
3. Get Groove IP. Grovoe IP requires a Google Voice account. Pairing the two allows you to make and receive calls on your mobile, using data, or wifi.
The power of using Google Voice paired with Groove IP is that, while you're on wifi when abroad, you can call a mobile or landline directly- unlike in Viber's case, whereby you can only call another Viber user on their mobile. Also, this combination, allows you to send sms, though not any picture messages- can always use email for that.
Additionally, you can receive calls via the Groove IP setup from any number(you must setup GV to forward to Google Chat- this step is in the setup instructions of Groove IP).
So, the ideal setup is this:
Get Viber, and tell all your family members and friends to get it as well
Setup Google Voice and Groove IP
Before leaving, get your phone setup to forward all calls to your GV number, and in turn, setup GV to forward calls to Google Chat (which ends up in Groove IP on your mobile).
So, when you are at the base, and have your handset connected to wifi, as long as GrooveIP and Viber are running, you will be fully connected. Anyone calling your regular number as if you had never left will be able to reach you, as will any of the Viber users calling via mobile.
Sorry for the long-winded rant, but I hope I've covered some useful ground, which worked well through my experience anyway.
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Just to mention the obvious- don't forget google chat- as long as you are on wifi, and so is the other party, you can do voice or video chat. There is modded version of google talk so at least the other party with 3g/4g access does not have to also use wifi.
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Groove IP sounds awesome! That seems like the most practical solution since everyone already has my Google Voice number!
And thank you for YOUR support!
skatin707 said:
Lucky, we aren't allowed to bring cell phones.
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Who is "we"?
MaxRabbit said:
Groove IP sounds awesome! That seems like the most practical solution since everyone already has my Google Voice number!
And thank you for YOUR support!
Who is "we"?
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I keep finding these threads trying to make calls out of mexico.
THE SOLUTION IS NOT TO USE GOOGLE VOICE GOOGLE VOICE DOES NOT WORK OUTSIDE OF THE US
bobsled sounded like a good alternative but no one can hear me on the other end
redking117 said:
I keep finding these threads trying to make calls out of mexico.
THE SOLUTION IS NOT TO USE GOOGLE VOICE GOOGLE VOICE DOES NOT WORK OUTSIDE OF THE US
bobsled sounded like a good alternative but no one can hear me on the other end
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Did you need to necro this 4 month old thread though?
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redking117 said:
I keep finding these threads trying to make calls out of mexico.
THE SOLUTION IS NOT TO USE GOOGLE VOICE GOOGLE VOICE DOES NOT WORK OUTSIDE OF THE US
bobsled sounded like a good alternative but no one can hear me on the other end
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Why did you have to tell them that. I don't think they need to know that since it's been 4 months.
The answer is, people don't look at dates. They just see a problem and think "hey, my post count could use a boost...feck it!" And dive right in. In all fairness he could be blind and have everything being read to him. In which case maybe he missed it telling him how old the thread was.
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I have the rezound, as well as a Kindle Fire, and I installed Google Voice on them. I read through other threads, and no luck with my problem.
I have used Google Voice on my computer to call and text people, and with my upcoming trip to europe, it would be nice to use that to call people back home.
Problem, I have it installed on two devices, yet on both it doesn't give me the option to call, or even compose any sort of message at all. Any ideas on what I can do? The only options I get are refresh, settings, and search.
For me, when I'm in my inbox (or any other folder) I have a compose button on the bottom left. For calls, can you go into settings, Making calls, and change it to ask for all calls? Then use your dialer to place a call and it should prompt you.
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Fontos said:
I have the rezound, as well as a Kindle Fire, and I installed Google Voice on them. I read through other threads, and no luck with my problem.
I have used Google Voice on my computer to call and text people, and with my upcoming trip to europe, it would be nice to use that to call people back home.
Problem, I have it installed on two devices, yet on both it doesn't give me the option to call, or even compose any sort of message at all. Any ideas on what I can do? The only options I get are refresh, settings, and search.
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click settings. the second option in the settings menu controls the ability to make calls via google voice. it is however done by dialing a forwarding service and therefore uses your minutes. it is not voip.
Fontos said:
I have the rezound, as well as a Kindle Fire, and I installed Google Voice on them. I read through other threads, and no luck with my problem.
I have used Google Voice on my computer to call and text people, and with my upcoming trip to europe, it would be nice to use that to call people back home.
Problem, I have it installed on two devices, yet on both it doesn't give me the option to call, or even compose any sort of message at all. Any ideas on what I can do? The only options I get are refresh, settings, and search.
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I pretty much use Google Voice as my primary mode of voice calling. You don't make a call through the app. Simply go to settings, and tell it to either use GV for every call, or ask it to prompt you at every call whether to call from your phone or to call from GV. Then when you simply dial as normal through the dialer app, it will either just use GV if you told it to, or ask you which to use.
BTW, All GV calling functionality is disabled on wifi tablets. I honestly have no experience with 3G/4G tablets, but on my Wifi Transformers I have to install a SIP client on the tablet and route GV calls to another VOIP service I use.
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I pretty much use Google Voice as my primary mode of voice calling. You don't make a call through the app. Simply go to settings, and tell it to either use GV for every call, or ask it to prompt you at every call whether to call from your phone or to call from GV. Then when you simply dial as normal through the dialer app, it will either just use GV if you told it to, or ask you which to use.
BTW, All GV calling functionality is disabled on wifi tablets. I honestly have no experience with 3G/4G tablets, but on my Wifi Transformers I have to install a SIP client on the tablet and route GV calls to another VOIP service I use.
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I'm a bit confused. I thought the only Google Voice calling solution was GrooveIP if you want to send and receive calls properly for your Google Voice phone number. GrooveIP does not use your minutes and is definitely VOIP.
On every device I tried it on, there is a bit of delay with GrooveIP, but the quality is good (good internet connection required, whether its 4G or strong 3G or WiFi.)
Can you please elaborate a bit? Are you just using Google Voice app, but its using your minutes?
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I'm a bit confused. I thought the only Google Voice calling solution was GrooveIP if you want to send and receive calls properly for your Google Voice phone number. GrooveIP does not use your minutes and is definitely VOIP.
On every device I tried it on, there is a bit of delay with GrooveIP, but the quality is good (good internet connection required, whether its 4G or strong 3G or WiFi.)
Can you please elaborate a bit? Are you just using Google Voice app, but its using your minutes?
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When you use the google voice app, it dials into the google voice services which then forwards the call to the number you dialed. You get charged for the minutes during the call as a result. This also breaks free mobile to mobile calling.
GrooveIP is a 3rd party app that lets you connect to GV via VOIP so you don't have that forwarding call.
Use sipdroid with pbxs function. Tie it to Google voice, download Google voice callback, and presto. Have it on an old evo for my 8 year old daughter. She loves texting with Google voice. Makes her feel like a teenager. There is sometimes a slight echo, but completely usable.
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Use sipdroid with pbxs function. Tie it to Google voice, download Google voice callback, and presto. Have it on an old evo for my 8 year old daughter. She loves texting with Google voice. Makes her feel like a teenager. There is sometimes a slight echo, but completely usable.
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This is exactly how I made voice calling possible with my GV number on my wifi tablet.
Just wanted to throw this out here... for those of us who want to run CM10 but depend on WiFi calling because of coverage issues.. here's something I've done that works great
Basically we're going to be using Google Voice (For the phone provider) that's linked to a SIP account (SIP is the standard for VOIP), and we're going to use Conditional Call Forwarding to ensure calls go to our google voice number when we don't have server, but connected to WiFi.
First, you need a google voice account. Once you have created an account, make sure you log in/place a call at least once using Gmail (In the google voice phone settings, there's an option to have it forward calls to "Gmail", you want to make sure that's checked as well)
Okay, once you've done that, and you have made a test call... you need to sign up for this Google Voice SIP gateway https://simonics.com/gvgw/
This will, in a nutshell, establish a gateway between google voice's gmail call interface, and a SIP account. This will allow you to use a SIP account to make calls through your google voice number. Make sure you write down/store the information the Simonics gateway gives you once you sign up, you cant get it again!
After you register with the Simonics gateway, you will be given a SIP server, a username, a "secret" (Password), the registration string isn't important unless you're going to be using Asterisk, which we are not.
Now, once you have all this information, download the app CSipSimple (Best SIP client on android) https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jc2lwc2ltcGxlIl0.
(Optional)
You can also get the codec pack, which will give you a wider range of codecs to use.. but I find the default just fine.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5jc2lwc2ltcGxlLnBsdWdpbnMuY29kZWNzLnBhY2sxIl0.
Okay! Now that we have all that done, we're going to configure CSipSimple to connect to the Simonics google voice gateway. CSipSimple has great integration with the stock dialer. Open up CSipSimple... the initial config will pop up, here you can choose to integrate it with the Android dialer (which I recommend if you're replacing wifi calling), select "Available on WiFi" (Unless you want to use this over the cellular network as well, to save on minutes, only uses data) and you can also choose if you want to allow CSipSimple to operate over mobile networks (I'm allowed to use mobile, is the option name) pick your options, then save. Now you'll be presented with a list of VOIP providers etc.. scroll all the way down and select "Advanced" configuration.
Account name: Anything you want
Caller ID: Anything you want, but I suggest either your mobile # or your google voice number
Server: Whatever the Simonic's gateway provided you, this can be different so make sure you wrote all that down!
Username: What the Simonic's gateway provided you
SIP Authentication ID: Leave this blank, it will default to the username.
Password: the "Secret" the simonics gateway provided you
There will be a checkbox that asks to use TCP instead of UDP. If you're going to be taking incoming calls on this often, I'd recommend using TCP (it's much less battery intensive than UDP). UDP is the preferred method, but it will use a LOT more battery if you plan on being connected often.
Proxy: same exact thing here as "server", example: mine is gvgw3.simonics.com
Save that.
If everything is correct, after you save the account should register, and turn green showing "registered"
Okay! Now we can make calls using our google voice account, so let's test it and make sure it's working. Go ahead and hit "Accounts" at the top left (The "back" arrow) or simply hit the back softkey. This should take you to the dialer (This is CSipSimple's dailer, but CSipSimple has also integrated with the stock dialer, so when you make a call a menu will pop up asking if you want to use your Google Voice SIP gateway account, or regular mobile network.. if you don't want this menu every time you make a call, I suggest turning off the "I'm allowed to use mobile network" feature and turn off android dialer integration)
Dial this number: 1 354 415 1595 - This is what's called an ECHO test line, it's a regular land-line number.. you should hear a voice saying hit "1" for an ECHO test, "2" for music on hold. Hit the 1 key, and start talking. You should hear an echo of your voice... if you hear yourself talking, GREAT! Outgoing calls are working!
Now we want to configure what's called Conditional Call Forwarding/Unconditional Call Forwarding so that all calls to our mobile number will be forwarded to our google voice number when we do not have a signal (or in the case of unconditional, always), you can also set up what's Unconditional Call Forwarding... this is useful if you want to have calls forwarded to your google voice number no matter what. I usually turn off the radio when connected to WiFi though (saves a lot of battery), to ensure I don't have a mobile signal ****YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE TEXT MESSAGES IF YOU DO THIS****, so it's up to you if you want to turn the radio off or not. If you don't, you'll need to use unconditional call forwarding.
Now here's the deal: WIth T-Mobile, Conditional Call Forwarding (THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT) is limited to a total of 500 minutes per billing cycle. It doesn't matter if you're on unlimited, 1000 minutes, whatever. You get a TOTAL of 500 Conditional Call Forwarding minutes each cycle. Yes, it sucks. But that's what we have to deal with if we want to use CM10 with functional wifi calling that rings you when someone calls your mobile number. If you want to avoid using these minutes, you can simple call the person back (Using your SIP account), or give your google voice # (instead of mobile number) when someone calls you, and have them call you right back. ALSO, Conditional Call Forwarding is what forwards calls to your voice mail, so if you use it, MAKE SURE TO SET IT BACK TO THE NUMBER IT WAS AT ORIGINALLY, OR CALLS WILL NOT GO TO YOUR VOICEMAIL. You can see what this number is by using the short code # # 62 # in your dialer, using your mobile network.
There's several modes of conditional call forwarding. Forward if BUSY, Forward if NO REPLY, Forward if NOT REACHABLE (no signal). You can set up forwarding to your google voice for any of these, but I only recommend NOT REACHABLE, because it simply doesn't make sense for the other two. There's several ways to configure call forwarding. I recommend using the stock dialer's built in feature, but you can also use Short Codes to activate it. Open the stock dialer, click the menu button, then settings. Near the bottom of the Settings, there should be a "Call Forwarding" option. In there you'll see all three forwading settings (Busy, not reachable, unanswered) as well as the original number it's set to (your voicemail). All you do is simply change the "Forward when unreachable" to your google voice number. Remember, for this to be in use 100% of the time you're on WiFi, you will have to turn off your cellular radio. If Text Messages are important to you, I recommend using UNCONDITIONAL (Always Forward in the dialer->forwarding settings).. this will have calls forwarded to your google voice number NO MATTER WHAT, so make sure you turn it off when you leave WiFi.
Unconditional Call Forwarding, on the other hand, deducts from the minute plan you subscribe to. You can still use the above methods to avoid using your minutes, but just be aware that if you use unconditional call forwarding it WILL deduct from your minute bucket.
Please be aware that you have to have a mobile signal to configure call forwarding, so you need to turn it on before you leave service/enter wifi, or simply always have Unconditional Forward if Not Reachable forwarded to your google voice number. Honestly, I use Google Voice for my voicemail as well, so I have all three of my forwards always set to my Google Voice number, you might want to consider this option as well, as it makes it much more seamless. You can use the Google Voice app for visual voicemail as well as free transcription, and it's much much better than T-Mobile's solution.
Here's a list of short codes for call forwarding: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4319
These are very useful if you plan on using Tasker to automate any of this (This is what I do, to make the process very seamless when I enter WiFi)
I know this isn't nearly as simple as the stock wifi calling solution, and it doesn't integrate nearly as well... but it works. Once you have this configured, you'll be able to receive/make calls on WiFi without issue. You'll also have a method of calling using your data connection that doesn't use minutes if you need that, as well. There's other ways to do this, such as using an app such as "Groove IP" or "Talkatone", and those work very well. I prefer the SIP gateway method, because I can configure a SIP softphone on any number of devices, including my android device. For those standalone apps such as "Groove IP", you would do pretty much the same thing, but you don't need the Sip Gateway, and you also wouldn't need CSipSimple (which I find is superior to all the other VoIP apps)... all you would do is simply configure Unconditional/Conditional call forwarding to your Google Voice number and use whatever app you want. You could also use Android's build in SIP functionality (it's built into the dialer!) But I find it very unreliable and couldn't get it to register reliably with the SIP gateway... but that might be a great option as well.
Please title this correctly.
This is 'How to get Google Voice working on your phone'... Not a viable workaround for 'cell-service-over-WiFi' style wifi calling.
Notes:
1) Monthly4G customers DO NOT HAVE conditional forwarding
2) This does not allow you to recieve MMS.
3) The only way you can use google voice with your real mobile-number is if you port it to Google, at which point you will never get MMS at that number again (because GV can't handle it properly)....
Now, does it work to have a usable phone at home w/o service? Sure, on a different number & with limited messaging...
But it is not a true WFC workaround.
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This is 'How to get Google Voice working on your phone'... Not a viable workaround for 'cell-service-over-WiFi' style wifi calling.
Notes:
1) Monthly4G customers DO NOT HAVE conditional guys over on nal forwarding
2) This does not allow you to recieve MMS.
3) The only way you can use google voice with your real mobile-number is if you port it to Google, at which point you will never get MMS at that number again (because GV can't handle it properly)....
Now, does it work to have a usable phone at home w/o service? Sure, on a different number & with limited messaging...
But it is not a true WFC workaround.
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Well yeah I'm quite aware of the limitations. There's really no other viable alternative at the moment. Maybe someone can get the kineto app and libs from the sensation working but I highly doubt it, as the guys over on the sensation forum have been trying for a while now... Basically it's up to t mobiles, haha. I believe the only working device with jelly bean and wifi calling is the note 2, and sgs3....and once again its deeply embedded within the touchwiz framework.. The guys over on sgs3 forum even have a 350$ bounty for a non touchwiz working port. Doesn't look very promising but it's to be expected with something like uma... Maybe someone will figure it out. For someone who works in a complete t mobile dead zone, the only other viable option is sticking with Ics, and that's simply not something I want. Then again, I've always basically given my gvoice number out, and no MMS is very little impact considering you can send stuff over email, and every single carrier seems to have an email gateway... It is a major pain to have people send stuff to your Gmail acct. Instead of regular MMS, though,.... It's definitely not Ideal but it's a lot better than no service, an using ICS/sense builds.
I wasn't aware that monthly 4g didn't get conditional, kind of sucks. Could always use unconditional, if most people use your mobile number you would completely be dropping messages so i do understand the hesitation on that. I've been wanting sms/MMS. Forwarding options for a long time now, would be nice if carrier sms could utilize xmpp or sip messaging to handle sms forwards, but sms is another huge hack job that sorely needs replacement and MMS just a fancy if not severely limited email.
So yeah man, not many other options out there right now. If you're someone who relies on sms/MMS heavily and most contacts use your mobile number, I can definitely see where that would be an issue. Most people I communicate with on a daily basis are very tech oriented, so it's honestly not that big of a deal breaker (to me). I've just found that the Sip gateway and CSipSmple work orders of magnitude better than any stand alone app implementation. If you have any alternatives (besides using ics/sense builds) I'd love to know them, I was a huge user of wifi calling (about. 70% of all my calls) so i'm open to try everything.
Lol get your friends and family to get viber you get to keep your number and sms and MMS and since these days every one has a smart phone an app like viber is quite nice especially if everyone had it on their phones... That's what I use when I don't have signal and have told friends and family to reach me on viber if they can't otherwise
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ericdjobs said:
I wasn't aware that monthly 4g didn't get conditional, kind of sucks. Could always use unconditional, if most people use your mobile number you would completely be dropping messages so i do understand the hesitation on that. I've been wanting sms/MMS. Forwarding options for a long time now, would be nice if carrier sms could utilize xmpp or sip messaging to handle sms forwards, but sms is another huge hack job that sorely needs replacement and MMS just a fancy if not severely limited email.
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If you use 'unconditional forward' then you will never get another call again. All your calls will be forwarded to G-Voice, which will send them to G-voicemail.
We'll see about wifi calling.
BTW, the Kineto/UMA app does run on our CM9. There's a kernel driver missing for GAN, and of course CM9 does not have data. It crashes on CM10 because of a missing native library for audio-recording...
The Movial/IMS app (From Amaze Stock) runs on CM10 but the setup screen is full of sense rubbish... However the Sense rubbish might be wrapp-able back to stock-Android, but that is a long-shot...
Skip all steps and install groove ip. And sign in with your Google voice login
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dilfatx said:
Skip all steps and install groove ip. And sign in with your Google voice login
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Yeah you can do that if you want, and it's definitely a much more simpler approach and it should be sufficient for most people.
But the SIP method gives you much more flexibility, like the option of using Speex/GSM codecs (which compensate for jitter and packet loss) while Groove IP hooks directly into the google talk API, thus you are stuck with G.711 mu-law codec, and that's not the best option all of the time. Using Speex/GSM codecs will give you slightly reduced call quality but much better reliability and they are much more resistant to congestion network situations or high latency.. it's a better calling experience all around IMO.
Also, using a SIP solution you're able to hook into an asterisk server if you so desire (which is important to me, personally) and manage multiple lines using one softphone.
At the end of the day though, if you have access to fast, reliable wifi whenever you need to make calls, Groove IP gets the job done just fine. But for someone who wants a lot more functionality and features, using the SIP gateway will provide that. Also, you can use it as a trunk for an asterisk server, for those of us who utilize that sort of thing.
Android stock dialer
Hi, thanks for sharing this! I was wondering if there's a way to configure this directly in Android's stock dialer (just as can be done with pbxes.org)? Thanks!
If you're using Advanced Calling feature, please share your experience. Like, dislike, what affect it has on other things (if any), etc.
Thank you.
If you are talking about the phone call over WiFi, I had it on for a few calls and thought the quality was not very good so I turned it off.
No, Advanced Calling (AC) is voice over LTE tech. The LG V10 can't do simultaneous voice and data (i.e. using a web search while on a call) unless AC is turned on.
Here's info from Verizon:
Advanced Calling 1.0 for Android Devices FAQs
What is Advanced Calling?
For Apple devices, check out our Advanced Calling 1.0 for Apple devices FAQs.
Advanced Calling 1.0 is a first generation suite of services enabled by VoLTE (Voice over LTE) technology. VoLTE is a new technology platform that delivers voice calls over the 4G LTE network instead of the traditional voice network.
The benefits of Advanced Calling 1.0 include:
HD Voice
1-way or 2-way video calls* (including support for video calls over Wi-Fi)
6-way conference calls
Simultaneous voice and 4G LTE data**
*Note: Not all Advanced Calling 1.0-capable devices support Video Calling.
**Note: Most 4G LTE Android smartphones today already support simultaneous voice and LTE data without Advanced Calling 1.0. However, some newer Advanced Calling 1.0-capable devices such as the Droid Turbo by Motorola do not support simultaneous voice and LTE data unless Advanced Calling 1.0 is activated.
What is HD Voice?
HD Voice delivers clearer, natural-sounding audio when both parties are using HD Voice-enabled phones that are connected to our 4G LTE network.
HD Voice is included in your existing voice plan at no additional charge, but must be added to your account in My Verizon. HD Voice calls are billed as standard voice minutes, according to your plan.
What is Video Calling?
Video Calling is a feature that lets you make an HD Voice call combined with real-time video.
Making video calls is as simple and easy as making traditional voice calls. If the person you're calling can accept a video call, you'll see a Camera icon. You can then select that icon to upgrade to a video call. There's no need to download an app or set up a new user ID to place a video call.
Notes:
Video Calling requires a Video Calling-enabled phone.
When connected to Verizon's 4G LTE network and known Wi-Fi access points, video calls will automatically hand off to Wi-Fi.
What is simultaneous voice and LTE data?
Simultaneous voice and 4G LTE data allows customers connected to Verizon's 4G LTE network to surf the web, continue a download, use an application, or use a feature like Mobile Hotspot while talking on a call.
Who's eligible for Advanced Calling 1.0?
To be eligible for Advanced Calling 1.0, you need to meet all of the following requirements:
Be on a standard monthly plan*
Have an HD Voice-capable phone
Note: If you have any features that are incompatible with Advanced Calling 1.0, you'll need to remove them when you add the HD Voice feature to your account.
* Prepaid accounts aren't eligible for Advanced Calling 1.0 at this time.
Which devices support Advanced Calling 1.0?
You can view our current list of phones compatible with Advanced Calling 1.0 online. This list will grow over time.
How much does Advanced Calling 1.0 cost?
Advanced Calling 1.0 is available at no additional charge, and HD Voice is included in existing plans.
HD Voice calls are billed as standard voice calls according to your plan. No data charges apply.
Mobile-to-Mobile calls that happen to be HD Voice calls are charged just like traditional Mobile-to-Mobile calls and are billed against your monthly minute allowance according to your plan.
A video call is an HD Voice call combined with real-time video. The voice portion is billed as a standard voice call, according to your plan. The video portion is billed as data, according to your data plan. No data charges apply to video calls transmitted over Wi-Fi.
Note: An average 1-minute video call uses about 6 - 8 MB of data. The actual data consumption of your video call may vary. You can estimate your data usage using our online Data Usage Calculator.
I use it all the time. I would not get a phone that I could not talk on and use the internet simultaneously. I don't have any issues with voice quality.
AndroidCraig said:
I use it all the time. I would not get a phone that I could not talk on and use the internet simultaneously. I don't have any issues with voice quality.
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Great, thank you!
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If you're using Advanced Calling feature, please share your experience. Like, dislike, what affect it has on other things (if any), etc.
Thank you.
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For me, I felt the call audio was a little soft/tinny (not sure how to describe it) and thought it odd that the call audio on a phone like this wasn't better so I thought I'd give it a try and activated it late last week. At first, I wasn't sure I could tell a difference but then noticed that the clarity of the audio on phone calls seems to be improved - i.e. instead of the call sounding distant/tinny, it seemed to "feel" closer, with better audio clarity.
Maybe it's a placebo affect but I can say I'm happier with the call quality after activating it. Plus, what can it hurt...it's a feature Verizon is offering for free!
When I use advance calling for some reason on BT the names aren't displayed on my vehicle screen, only the phone number shows up. If I turn it off it will display the name of the call coming in or going out. Anyone else have this happen?
My family won't talk to me with it on. They sound great to me but I sound like I am in a tunnel.
But with it off no data while in a call.
This is might be a deal killer with this phone...
I rarely had dropped calls until using AC. Coupled with weird sound quality, I call it At&t Calling. ?
Couple observations
-I maybe incorrect on this, but I believe that in order for voLTE to actually work, BOTH parties in a call need to have it - service availability and a compatible phone. So I'm not sure whether most people weighing in actually know for certain if they've actually had a VOLTE call or not.
- In a post elsewhere another user blamed voLTE for increasing battery drain rate. Certainly seems plausible, but if true, that would be truly unfortunate because apparently disabling it prevents simultaneous data and voice - an issue I've never had to deal with before.
- this might not be relevant to many, but I was pulling my hair out trying to determine why my location-based profile app (Llama) as well as similar apps that use cell tower polling to determine location at low battery cost, were not able to read any cell tower IDs - until I disabled Advanced Calling and then low and behold they worked again.
I'm dubious of AC at this point, and curious to hear more people's experience.
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I came from the G3 which allowed simultaneous voice and data but never really used it. What I think is that we should AT MINIMUM be able to use Maps and be on a call without losing out directions as now Maps directions stop if you get a call. I really don't think GPS directions should be using data anyway. I will not be enabling AC until it works with Ring Back Tones or it is something that I can't avoid.
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I use it, but so far the only person I've been able to talk to using HD voice is my girlfriend and that's only because I activated it on her phone. It sounds a lot different, but it's hard to explain what it's like. It's almost like you're talking to someone right next to you, but your in a glass box. There's this weird difference that I can't put my finger on what it is exactly but it seems the sound of emptiness is clearer in the background.
Quick update, it's awful if you don't have a decent data connection. We were talking while she was in the gym and it sounded so bad. She would cut out randomly, or sound way softer than normal and I couldn't understand anything. It's OK at best, but I think I prefer traditional calling.
I am suspicious of it causing my voice to echo. It doesn't always happen but since I've left it on for a while, I've heard my own voice very frequently. The other party, who probably isn't using AC has never commented on an echo and I assume they're not hearing it.
I have it activated on my phone as well as my wife's; i've only talked to her using AC. It sounds very much like talking to someone over Skype, Hangouts, etc. Sometimes it seems very clear and easier to hear the other person, then other times it will "pixelate" the sound, which is also something that most people that have used Skype, etc have experiences. I've never had any voice echoing though. I would never pay for this feature, but it is the only way we can use data and voice simultaneously.
It was also needlessly difficult to enable this feature on my wifes G4. I was able to activate it on my V10 no prob, but could not do it on the G4. Finally called VZW and after 10 minutes with an L2 support guy it was enabled. Something was messed up on their end.
I'm unable to activate it on my phone. My 'Advanced Calling' screen just says "upgrade service to..." but I activated it online in my Verizon account 8 hours and about 3 reboots ago. Any ideas?
I can't believe a device in 2015 is incapable of simultaneous voice and data. Verizon forcing this single antenna path on us is pretty ridiculous. I use tethering a lot and I also look things up for my parents while talking to them. Are these use cases really that rare that no one complains?
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I'm unable to activate it on my phone. My 'Advanced Calling' screen just says "upgrade service to..." but I activated it online in my Verizon account 8 hours and about 3 reboots ago. Any ideas?
I can't believe a device in 2015 is incapable of simultaneous voice and data. Verizon forcing this single antenna path on us is pretty ridiculous. I use tethering a lot and I also look things up for my parents while talking to them. Are these use cases really that rare that no one complains?
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Ok this happened to me and what the problem was my advanced calling got corrupt and Verizon on there end had to remove my advanced calling and add it back to my account and then I restarted and all my options displayed right
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ornwilson said:
I'm unable to activate it on my phone. My 'Advanced Calling' screen just says "upgrade service to..." but I activated it online in my Verizon account 8 hours and about 3 reboots ago. Any ideas?
I can't believe a device in 2015 is incapable of simultaneous voice and data. Verizon forcing this single antenna path on us is pretty ridiculous. I use tethering a lot and I also look things up for my parents while talking to them. Are these use cases really that rare that no one complains?
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Honestly, no they are not that rare. I've used data while talking on my note 3 and LG G3. This makes me want to sell the lg v10. That's excluding the fact I can't get txts after root working and no I don't want to use HD calling and it's not on my plan.
Ok guys I got a question!! I rooted my v10 on 5.1.1 and had my A/C calling on when I flashed the upgrade root package. phone started to get a bit buggie after awhile so I did a factory reset lost my A/C so I unrooted and try to reactivate it was a no go. I disabled it from my line then tried again and again and again. Did this for about 3 hours finally call Verizon they tried to help but there useless considering there reading from a script. So now I'm back to root with no A/C. I really like my A/C and they want me to update to 6.0 and I'm not giving up root no way in hell am I doing that does anyone know of a work around. I got a new SIM card coming in from Verizon hoping that may fix it. Any and all help is very much appreciated!!
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