I got a reply from a mod on the moto forums regarding the unlocking of the bootloader
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Nope no Motorola phones have unlocked bootloader solutions at this time. Motorola XOOM tablet is the only device currently. As providers allow certain devices will get the capability enabled.
Oh fun.....so ya if there is anything i can do to start helping devs get us a fully functional unlocked bootloader ...plz let me know...cause it doesnt sound like moto is gonna help us out anytime soon
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Not surprised.
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It's not like I didn't see that coming. lol
Can we be clear..the bootloader has been unlocked on the photon ..but it breaks wimax 4g to be unlocked
So if you do not use wimax or have wimax in your area...unlock
Oddly with the way wimax vs lte is going and wimax coverage area to loose just one thing,wimax to unlock is looking less an issue.....do I want my wimax...yes
..but i can unlock if need..but i do want both
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Can we be clear..the bootloader has been unlocked on the photon ..but it breaks wimax 4g to be unlocked
So if you do not use wimax or have wimax in your area...unlock
Oddly with the way wimax vs lte is going and wimax coverage area to loose just one thing,wimax to unlock is looking less an issue.....do I want my wimax...yes
..but i can unlock if need..but i do want both
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You are quite correct.
But from my point of view, that does not constitute "unlocked" since it broke something we know about, and there's always the possibility it broke something else we don't know about (but not likely).
I don't consider the Photon to be unlocked since I travel a lot and want all the standard features to work wherever I go.
Just saying ...
Borked unlocked
I have never had 4g til bout a month ago..i get it at my house...my high speed internet crash for couple days...i need high speed for work....my photon saved the days!! Thankfully for teathering
So ya..i loved how much custom roms and kernals improved my evo..honestly without them i would of went back to the iphone
I love this phone but i feel it could do so much more....but not at the risk of loosing important features like 4g
A unlocked bootloader...i think its worth a bounty.... lets get it started!!!
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Motorola unlocked the atrix bootloader in June.
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Really....figures people acting like they know stuff and misleading people
How long was it after they released the atrix??
If thats the case maybe its not a lost cause
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I don'T recall the release date. I want to say 4 months but that's just a guess.
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Not suprised at all
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Wonder if that has anything to do with them gearing up to release the Atrix 2?
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Wonder if that has anything to do with them gearing up to release the Atrix 2?
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They lied
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Lol. Okay....
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Any date?
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So I'm hoping when the verizon atrix hits soon we'll be getting more dev support. What do you guys think?
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i really don't think their will be because of the bionic but hopefully they are similar enough so that we can cross-develop if thats the right word
Right but if the bionic has a similar boot loader it could help, but they are supposed to be getting a verizon atrix.I figure since there are more devs on verizon phones we might get a big push.
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Right but if the bionic has a similar boot loader it could help, but they are supposed to be getting a verizon atrix.I figure since there are more devs on verizon phones we might get a big push.
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I really hope verizon has more sense then to take the atrix as well as the bionic..
Check out the android community news, there going to be releasing the droid 3 and the atrix soon.
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yea I saw it after posting I'll be calling my CSR monday morning and talking her into releasing me from my contract or giving me some concessions to stay pretty sure verizon's version will be better supported on all fronts
hey the motorola photon its official, its like atrix BUT it supose had UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!!!! and GingerBread so wtf with atrix... IMO photon should be the atrix
this its the source
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-photon-4g-has-unlocked-bootloader-sports-gorilla-glass
U might wna hold up on bn happy bout that. Droid life says hold on before celebrating they have new details
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from motorola..
Motorola: While the Motorola PHOTON 4G software does not include an unlockable/relockable bootloader, we intend to include this feature in software releases starting in late 2011 where operator and channel partners will allow it. Apologies for any confusion.
This does not mean they will unlock the Atrix bootloader
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117273
Photon is on lockdown too... read up...
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-photon-4g-initial-hands
bump...
Is it bad that I'm happy it's just as crippled as our phone? Kind of like "Hahahaha now you know how I feel."
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defnow said:
Motorola: While the Motorola PHOTON 4G software does not include an unlockable/relockable bootloader, we intend to include this feature in software releases starting in late 2011 where operator and channel partners will allow it. Apologies for any confusion.
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That would probably be one of the major selling points of the incoming Motorola handsets in late 2011, so we can expect unlockable software on Atrix after approximately 3 to 6 months?
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Never knows but for now no more motorola for me, the thing its I love htc but they don't make so many phones for at&t bands that are for ny country so I'm kind stuck.
Perhaps a new light appear,i will transfer ny data plan(stupid carrier its expensive cancel the contract) now I need sell my atrix and buy the evo 3D
Thanks motorola I trust in you...
Don't take me wrong I do like the phone, its amazing fast,i like entertainment center.but I don't like what motorola do to keep customers...not sure if they will unlock bootloader late like they said I don't trust anymore
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Is the Evo 3d locked too? I assume that's the phone people on Sprint will be buying either way.
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People on Sprint would have bought it regardless. Just because it has the word EVO in it.
But HTC caved and is unlocking bootloaders.
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Htc is shipping dev's s-off sensations (unlocked bootloaders).
Really sucks to be on moto at the moment, so much potential!
Swyped from 'mount' Olympus
Bye Motorola. Can't wait to sell my Atrix. Enough of this.
^ So what would you move to?...
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Why wait, there is Craigslist and Ebay.
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^ So what would you move to?...
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Waiting for the HTC Sensation to support the bands used by major Canadian providers (850/1900). As soon as it drops I'm getting rid of my Atrix!
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Waiting for the HTC Sensation to support the bands used by major Canadian providers (850/1900). As soon as it drops I'm getting rid of my Atrix!
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Wait sensation works with 850? that are at&t bands right?i though was for tmo bands (aws)
I was looking for evo 3D
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Hopefully galaxy s2 is not to far off for att. At the moment atrix is the best on our network. I'll jump ship once something better comes along or Motorola wakes up and opens there devices up. I'll never buy another moto device till they do
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Wait sensation works with 850? that are at&t bands right?i though was for tmo bands (aws)
I was looking for evo 3D
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Read it again, buddy. I'm waiting for a version to be released that has 850/1900 3G bands. I'm scouring the internet waiting to hear more news about the Sensation or Evo 3D to be released with these bands for 3G so I can ditch the Atrix.
This is a great phone and all but I only got it to tide me over until something better came along. I had an HTC Desire Z before. And I liked it a lot better than the Atrix. Ah well... hopefully I don't have to wait much longer. I'd keep this phone if the bootloader were unlocked but it looks like there isn't much promise (yes, following the threads in the Dev forum but it looks like a ways off still).
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Read it again, buddy. I'm waiting for a version to be released that has 850/1900 3G bands. I'm scouring the internet waiting to hear more news about the Sensation or Evo 3D to be released with these bands for 3G so I can ditch the Atrix.
This is a great phone and all but I only got it to tide me over until something better came along. I had an HTC Desire Z before. And I liked it a lot better than the Atrix. Ah well... hopefully I don't have to wait much longer. I'd keep this phone if the bootloader were unlocked but it looks like there isn't much promise (yes, following the threads in the Dev forum but it looks like a ways off still).
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Oh sorry I miss read, yeah I'm young that too since I have no more options in carrier seems I can get the evo working so I will jump from the boat, I take this because power of 2 cores and promise from moto to work in bootloader, the phone its great but stuck in froyo until moto wants, and when we get gb, we must wait to see ice cream when with unlocked bootloader we can have ics no more moto for me
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3G - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W5kmsBXVso&sns=sms
4G - http://youtu.be/8xihFQBwqfc
This is all coming when Sprint releases their LTE network.
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holy facking hell! but when everyone starts jumping on LTE the speeds wont likely be like that no more. i'm quite happy with my wimax right now i get 13-17mbps
True but they'll still be faster than now. There's a tower right next to where I live so I'm always getting those speeds as well
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Im about to cry... D: im amazed.. Sprints done it again!! They like take a massive leap, let the rest of the carriers take a small step ahead.... Take another massive leap.. Let the other carriers catch up... And just keep pullin more crap outa there butts to flaunt in the other carriers faces! Like they were the first to offer 4g a year ahead of everyone else.. And KEEP there unlimited plan then they do this! O: the only place they lack in is a wide range of phones but theyre even catching up in that department! Nd who cares they gor the mopho!!
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How do we know these videos are legit?
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Most of us will probably never see this ever and for two reasons.
1. It's Sprint and they are absolutely full of crap. Promised people around the country 4g nearly 2 years ago and still nothing.
2. See #1
Thats just crazy...how long would ur battery last..lol
And its prob a beta tester with no load on the network
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How do we know these videos are legit?
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Its not legit until they show a picture of either the test device or hotspot. They could have just renamed it to sprintetc. If that video is real so are Pamela Andersons tits 0_o
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Thats just crazy...how long would ur battery last..lol
And its prob a beta tester with no load on the network
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Actually better signal would = better battery life on cdma networks.
Yea I can guarantee that the speeds will be much lower with more than a few people connected to the network. I'm just impressed that Sprint is capable of this is all.
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Yea I can guarantee that the speeds will be much lower with more than a few people connected to the network. I'm just impressed that Sprint is capable of this is all.
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Check out the company called light squared and search it with sprint in the same search. Sprint is paying out the ass to make it work. I'm a recruiter and I work with the company they have recently had some break through and even some test. If it works out. Sprint will be able to use the tech to transfer their LTE anywhere you can receive a GPS signal.
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Check out the company called light squared and search it with sprint in the same search. Sprint is paying out the ass to make it work. I'm a recruiter and I work with the company they have recently had some break through and even some test. If it works out. Sprint will be able to use the tech to transfer their LTE anywhere you can receive a GPS signal.
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My friend has actually told me a little about them, I still need to look them up.
Awww we are friends haha.
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I'm getting one of these as a replacement for my 3D from Sprint. I'm torn. What do you suggest and why?
Photon packed full of features and it's not samsung
Nexus s - single core, no micro sd, 5mp camera, outdated.
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^true, but nexus s 4g is more than likely getting ics, whereas the photon is a bit in the air. Also, I think it has a bigger development community (no offense to the great devs here of course) on xda
Not even close. Wife had a nexus s 4g. I've had a Photon. Just bought a mopho for her and working on selling the ns4g. I thought it was going to be great with the open source and dev network and everything. It was a disappointment. It also does not have gorilla glass, is smaller, and has no kickstand. I would rather wait longer for official ICS than step down to a NS4G.
You should list things you absolutely need a phone (good signal, good quality screen, build quality, camera performance, etc.) and then check which of the two offers the most must need features.
This isn't even a question, of course the photon. Just because the NS4G is getting ICS wouldn't make it a better choice. Getting a NS4G at this point would be taking a step backwards imo.
Went with the photon. Sounds like I can root and retain 4g and use root apps like wifi tether but no ROMs if I want 4g. I guess this is good enough for now.
Chances the bootloader will ever be unlocked?
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sdc177 said:
Went with the photon. Sounds like I can root and retain 4g and use root apps like wifi tether but no ROMs if I want 4g. I guess this is good enough for now.
Chances the bootloader will ever be unlocked?
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The bootloader is unlocked, it's just that 4G gets disabled.
I'm getting my photon in two days as a replacement for my banged up 3VO... so glad it is on back order and I was offered something better....
So to the point.... If I am reading correctly, if I want to flash a custom ROM and recovery I have to give up 4g?
... Sounds good to me, I don't even get good 3g at my house, never mind 4g.... I'm always on wifi...
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The bootloader is unlocked, it's just that 4G gets disabled.
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Thanks, I got confused. So what are the chances of finding a way to unlock and retain 4g?
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Thanks, I got confused. So what are the chances of finding a way to unlock and retain 4g?
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Its currently being worked on but I wouldn't expect anything anytime soon. Providing ETA's in the Photon forums seem to get you beat like a red headed stepchild in here!
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Thanks, I got confused. So what are the chances of finding a way to unlock and retain 4g?
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Not too good without an assist from Motorola.
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Not too good without an assist from Motorola.
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retain 4g thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227867
Umm no that's super old
Use rocko locked or skinny4g
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retain 4g thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227867
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if you are willing to give up 4g unlock your bootloader and download jokersax's cm9 ROM it's great and the only thing that isn't working is the camera which i believe is gonna be fixed by the end of this week
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if you are willing to give up 4g unlock your bootloader and download jokersax's cm9 ROM it's great and the only thing that isn't working is the camera which i believe is gonna be fixed by the end of this week
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So can you relock and get 4g back? I've tried different ICS ROMs on other phones including CM9 and while I like it I'm not willing to permanently lose 4g so I can play with it on the MoPho.
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Yes, it is reversible
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CM9 hardware acceleration also doesn't work yet. All the videos I watch now requires the software decoding.
Photon!!!!!
Better photon
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I've been reading a lot and everyone says that Bootloading the Photon 4G will break your 4G connection. I want to know if anything else has been done to get the connection back or the system was updated to not worry about.
Unlocking it still kills 4g. You can relock later and have it working again
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Yeah no dice yet. Hoping for something soon.
i wish so badly especially with the new kitchen sink project D: it would make it the GREATEST THING EVER and would be a good enough reason to buy this phone all over again!!
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