what is more stable for the HD2, Native WM6.5.x custom ROM (like Energy) or NAND Android (like hyperdroid cm7) or SD Android???
Android on HD2 is very stable even more so with the NAND version,but I keep on coming back to WM 6.5 though,the ROM I am using is Cleanex RV STD the reason Im sticking with this ROM is that it gives me more than 270 MB of internal space on start,so after installing so many apps its still left around 220 MB of internal storage.Besides it is super stable even more than Android nand,but since i am not a big gamer and have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 I am very happt with the WM.
I am sure someone will emberace and rehabiliate this OS back in the future.
WM6.5 & Energy have proved very stable to the point only time I pull a battery is to swap a SIM.
The Android ports are incredible work but they do have issues ... HD2 is good for getting a taste of Android or WM7 but for a fuller experience a newer device with these platforms OEM is a better experience
Mister B said:
WM6.5 & Energy have proved very stable to the point only time I pull a battery is to swap a SIM.
The Android ports are incredible work but they do have issues ... HD2 is good for getting a taste of Android or WM7 but for a fuller experience a newer device with these platforms OEM is a better experience
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TNX Mister B you rock!!!
Mister B said:
WM6.5 & Energy have proved very stable to the point only time I pull a battery is to swap a SIM.
The Android ports are incredible work but they do have issues ... HD2 is good for getting a taste of Android or WM7 but for a fuller experience a newer device with these platforms OEM is a better experience
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^this.
droid sd builds claiming 100% tend to degrade to about 43% and less after a week...frustrating.
i need video also.
best just to go native whem my contract is up.
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Hi
Have a profhet G4, but i have now tried EVO8, Transfomer 1.0/1.1, Touch IX and Crystal V4.
They all run to slow even with xcpuscalar, and battery time is not good enough for my daily use. (Not using Wi-FI)
So should i try to go back on a WM5 rom ?, or has anyone good experiences with a WM6 rom? Maybe i should try with a clean WM6 rom? (link?)
thanks.
BR. Flemming
If Crystal V4 (Personal Edition) is not fast enough for you, I think you should cook your own ROM, 'cause that's all that left. If you do find a Faster ROM, I'd love to hear about it.
all now available wm6 rom is slower than wm5
digifan said:
all now available wm6 rom is slower than wm5
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Is it? All this while I thought WM6 (pure ones without TouchFlo and other fancy add-on) should run faster. I don't know cause used WM5 (think it was a very old release) for like 1 day plus then upgraded already.
Just open the Windows folder or settings in an WM5 Rom after you used WM6 and you will see which one runs faster.....you should also compare booting times! oO
In fact: Nearly any WM6 rom is faster than the WM5 ones...try it and you will see!
Greetz
digifan, if you say that WM6 is slower than WM5... then you have no experience in WM6...
BioniX said:
digifan, if you say that WM6 is slower than WM5... then you have no experience in WM6...
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I agree with you. If more speed is needed , there is always battery plugin
Finally, at some point you're facing the hardware limit...
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digifan, if you say that WM6 is slower than WM5... then you have no experience in WM6...
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well spoken indeed.
@digifan
BTW, if you feel that WM5 is faster than WM& why the hell are you interested to upgrade. Stay as it is, man
Stuclint said:
If Crystal V4 (Personal Edition) is not fast enough for you, I think you should cook your own ROM, 'cause that's all that left. If you do find a Faster ROM, I'd love to hear about it.
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I think too.
Well I'm happy that you found Crystal V4 fast. Recently there has been some development in ROM cooking world and consequently the crystal V5 will be even more stable and fast ! Crystal V5 will be a clean ROM with VOIP. The free storage memory will be somewhere around : 46 Mg .
This rom will be released in two to three weeks
good
waiting
Shark_XXL said:
Just open the Windows folder or settings in an WM5 Rom after you used WM6 and you will see which one runs faster.....you should also compare booting times! oO
In fact: Nearly any WM6 rom is faster than the WM5 ones...try it and you will see!
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I totally agree with you. I was almost abandon my Pocket pC before WM6 make my day again.
In era WM5 I totally refused to reboot due to slow booting time. WM6 safe a day.
Good luck!
i think you can enjoy htc photo album gestures and cube and other gr8 interfaces which wm6 has offered rather than think of speed ,you see there is a difference between a vintage glider(wm5) and a boeing 747 (wm6)and a f-16 fighter aircraft and a chopper , all have their own specific usage advantages and disadvantages ,no one of them will provide you everything at one place. you cant take a ferrari on country rally and if a country rally car comes to ferrari race it won't win .they have their own routes to go into.
WOW!!! hma4, 46MB wud b a treat!! I simply luv the freedom a clean ROM gives
46 MB.. It is really good... As I said before, you are one of the greatest....
serious speed issue
Guys,
I do have a Prophet as well as a Tornado. They seem to be identical in terms of hardware, but the even with the default WM5 roms the Tornado is way faster (windows folder opens in 2-3 seconds while the Prophet takes a well 6-7 seconds).
If you add special features to the Prophet, such as HTC Home, and a couple of other gimmicks, then it can be painfully slow (even with my cpu o/c at 273MHz). I did a hard reset to mine a couple of weeks ago and now I need over 20 seconds to open windows folder. I don't know if it is the rom to blame (I am currently using a PDAViet ver 4.0.0.0WWE) but we have to do something about it! Even the phone features are getting slow
Does everybody confirm that Crystal V4 is the fastest rom around? I have also in mind a TNT Greek rom (since I am Greek). Is that any good in terms of speed?
hma4 said:
Well I'm happy that you found Crystal V4 fast. Recently there has been some development in ROM cooking world and consequently the crystal V5 will be even more stable and fast ! Crystal V5 will be a clean ROM with VOIP. The free storage memory will be somewhere around : 46 Mg .
This rom will be released in two to three weeks
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ooo,yes.the best news for my weekend.
agha hamed ma az tarafdaraye paro pa ghorse shomaiim
baese eftekhare maiid.
thanx
hma4 said:
Crystal V5 will be a clean ROM with VOIP. The free storage memory will be somewhere around : 46 Mg .
This rom will be released in two to three weeks
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I'm waiting for it
It would be the perfect WM6 rom for prophet
hma4 said:
Well I'm happy that you found Crystal V4 fast. Recently there has been some development in ROM cooking world and consequently the crystal V5 will be even more stable and fast ! Crystal V5 will be a clean ROM with VOIP. The free storage memory will be somewhere around : 46 Mg .
This rom will be released in two to three weeks
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that is good news
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
Thanks for the info. I love DCD roms, but I'm really wondering about this new WM6.5 rom. It would be nice to hear some more comments from others about each. Thanks!
Not so much an opinion as an educated comment...
I think that you are going to find that WM6.5 (and IE8) are just plain designed for devices with more RAM than the Titan's 64MB. It's a hardware limitation that is just going to be difficult to get past. Compare it to running Vista on an older desktop box with only 512MB of RAM... it will work, and look pretty, but it will be very limited. Vista (and WM6.5) were designed around hardware that is unfortunately higher horsepower than older machines like the desktop I used as an example above (in the case of Vista) and the Titan (in the case of WM6.5) have.
It'll be fun to play with (I haven't tried it yet) but expecting it to be a reliable daily driver on the Titan is probably asking a bit much. I found the same thing with Opera 9.5... it is beautiful, and the best mobile browser I have ever seen, but the Titan just can't run it effectively (without the low memory errors).
were getting pretty close on the memory but your right the 6800 got the shaft on the ram dept.
don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D
I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
and even with M2D loaded and 18.8MB free at bootup, I am still able to run
google map, sms\mms and IE plus Activesync running .. with no issues..
also runs my TomTom without any issues.. plus 6.5 runs faster as well overall..
granted as you keep loading more apps if you go to task mng, just by opening
task mng. it close some apps .. if you flip to and from your apps you'll see they
are still running .. well my experience anyways...
I use my phone just like if its a PC .. hell this post if from my phone.. the new IE is damm sweet...
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I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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It might be better to compare WM 6.5 to Windows 7 instead of Vista.
Running Windows Vista on an old/slow computer is a horribly bad idea. However in beta testing Windows 7 I installed it on a Celeron M laptop with only 1gb of ram and it ran like a dream (without Aero). My boot up and loading times were equal to XP. So if WM 6.5 is designed correctly, it could work just fine on our devices.
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
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What do you mean without hibernate? I guess that might be a noob question sorry. 25.6 would be even better than DCD roms. Wow.
hibernate refers to oxios hibernate which releases memory to help make your phone run faster
sudermatt said:
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
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The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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the main part of 6.5 is done .. whats left is the interface, the build number
will may go up once the interface is added however there is no memory issues
I know of .. other than the first few beta 1-3 release that has the nueKernel
(a 3rd party programs that cause memory issues .. not the 6.5 kernel !!)
that add was removed from beta-4 and no more issues ..
Also note, after the new interface is added to WM6.5 I believe it will be strip out anyways
at it will be built for VGA or higher PDA's and even if there is a QVGA version
its going to require a ton of memory anyways!! what you will be left with is
whats out now anyways!! thus DCD 6.5 may end up being on this same built!!
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WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
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x2 ..
check this thead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477525
I hope this the right place for that question / poll ...
What is the best "working" rom at that moment (may 2010)?
Not the best looking rom but the rom with best performance and fewest problems.
xda_dev2063 said:
I hope this the right place for that question / poll ...
What is the best "working" rom at that moment (may-june 2010)?
Not the best looking rom but the rom with best performance and fewest problems.
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Novembre5 last version v5 loaded is the best so far gps,ram etc.
FFBOYS_ROM_WM61_21057 works great. On Boot 110 MB RAM free. No bugs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679530
or OS 6.5.5 is bugs free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670249
all another ROM have many different bugs
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FFBOYS_ROM_WM61_21057 works great. On Boot 110 MB RAM free. No bugs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679530
or OS 6.5.5 is bugs free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670249
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I would also recommend ffboy's v1.0 WM6.5.5 Rom. Runs perfect on my phone and it's a completely clean Rom!
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I would also recommend ffboy's v1.0 WM6.5.5 Rom. Runs perfect on my phone and it's a completely clean Rom!
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absolutely properly! FFBOY2009 make great work
of course : novembre5 ROM works fine and its near to zero bugs
for best looking is FFboy's sense beta2 very nice and very stabil
I would recommend arag0n85's Debranded Orange..
You get all the stability of the official rom, but all of the unnecessary rubbish is gone.
I have tried a few of the cooked roms now, but find that none are as good for GPS (using GPSModDriver) and no ActiveSync problems, unlike all the others I have tried.
I use Mobile Shell 3.5.4 and Phone Suite 1.2 (I don't like the current version) The beauty of Phone Suite is that it allows me to have the phone power down at night and start automatically in the morning. A real bonus for battery life.
i've had the novembre5 clean Rom 3 running for a few weeks, and it`s solid.
Huge performance increase and zero crashes or lockups
FFBOYS_ROM_WM61_21057 works great. On Boot 110 MB RAM free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679530
Run by me with spbMobileShel 3.5.4 + Mobile Sense theme. Have then 87 mb free RAM. Absolutely solidly and bugfree
toshiba 5005.0001.76
i think, the best rom is the official one. i have tried all custom build roms and each of them has some issues. i noticed some problems with graphics in different programs, problems with gps, sound and even if u have 90 mb of ram after restart, you are usually at 50-60 after while anyway and that is same amountof memory as the original one has. i have to say those guys made good job to produce those roms, but i still think the official rom is the most stable one there. i use spb3.5 so i don`t care about bigger buttons so much.
or
i just installed FFBOY`S 6.1 rom and i must admit it looks great, fast, plenty of memory, i didn`t notice any bugs. i`m gonna test it for a while and maybe this one will be my favourite..;-)
Hello
i use FFBOYS_ROM_WM OS 6.5.5 it is stabel but how can i change the personal setting for the Keyboard
steve
st_born said:
Hello
i use FFBOYS_ROM_WM OS 6.5.5 it is stabel but how can i change the personal setting for the Keyboard
steve
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under settings/ personal is ordinarily menu INPUT available. but in your ROM
is this empty. I have corrected this: HKLM\ControlPanel\Input\Restrict
deleted Restrict. After reset is under settings/ personal menu INPUT available.
FFBOYS 6.1 is the best very clean fast stable
FFBOYS beta 2 if you want with manila sense.. very stable too
Novembre5 if you want clean 6.5
Malaysian rom for standard Toshiba rom.. very good gps.
Hi,
I've been considering installing a custom froyo rom on my Hero, currently running the standard 2.1 sense rom from HTC.
I'm mostly concerned with speed and stability. So will the overall speed of my phone be better with a custom rom (as 2.2 generally is faster than 2.1), will it run smoother, scroll smoother? And how the stability on the current roms?
Can you maybe recommend one?
I'm not so much interested in the new features, but mostly on the speed of the device. So what would you recommend?
I rooted my phone the day I got it back in August 09 and have no regrets at all.
The devs who create the ROMs and custom kernals are usually very good at optimising them better than HTC themselves, so yes... chances are high you will see a big improvement in speed and stability. It doesn't even have to be Froyo.
You do have to be prepared to do a lot of reading and try a few different ROMs and set-ups to get the best out of your device though, but the end result will be worth it.
As for what ROM to go for. I've stuck with VillainROM 12 (Android 2.1) since it was released as it does exactly what I need it to and seems to be very stable. With Flykernal 12-pre2 it's is also very fast, although it was fast enough anyway.
I've never really been tempted by any 2.2 ROMs to be honest. I've tried most of them out but not enough to give any recommendations. Give me a 2.2 Sense ROM with Tristan's SenseVillain theme and I'll happily say good bye to VR12 though.
So, my suggestion to you would be (all at your own risk obviously):
Root it, do a Nandroid back-up, find a decent ROM, flash flykernal, download SetCPU from the Market and then just have a play about until you have a nice mix of speed and stability.
For detailed instructions of each step check the FAQs and guides in the Hero Development section
Yeah I do understand that it will take some time etc for finding roms and all. I've earlier installed custom roms on older windows mobile devices
Anyone can recommend a froyo rom then? It should be faster than a 2.1 rom I would guess. I can live without sense
Floyo 1.2.0 and Flykernal 12-pre2 would be a good place to start your testing then.
Also look into FroydVillain 1.7.2 or even CyanogenMod-6.1, which most non-Sense ROMs will be based on.
Have fun
Hi all
Sorry if this has been asked before... I'm aware you can dual boot WM6.5 & Android (Droid being booted from the SD card).
But this uses huge amounts of battery and gets the phone very hot...
Is there a way to have both WM and Android in the internal memory of the phone and a selection can be made at bootup???
Any ideas?
No this is not possible snd will more than likely never be possible on the HD2. It is just not enough memory space in the NAND chip that the OS resides in. Sorry it would be nice but it is just not possible.
If your phone is getting very hot and using a lot of battery then you just need to use a different combination of WM ROM and Android Build.
It is possible to have both running very well and for Android to not use a stupid amount of power. However it does take a lot of trial and error.
Ive recently switched to Elegancia ROM instead of an Energy ROM and Im getting even better battery life from Android now, even though It was pretty good anyway.
As a general rule of thumb, android builds containing HTC sense will tear the arse out of your battery because sense is a memory hog.
Try one of the AOSP builds.
Ive also noticed that you can get better battery life in android by following this process when you boot into android from WM.
Disable HTC Sense (Settings - All settings - Today - Items - Uncheck HTC Sense - Tick WM Default)
Soft Reset.
Boot android asap, ideally before any data connections initialise.
Hope that helps.
I'm dual booting with stock 3.14 ROM and darkstone's non-sense RAM build, which gives reasonable battery life and good speed - although still only about half that WinMo gives.