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Im going camping next weekend and i get 3/4 bars there.. But it isnt on E or G or anything.. Just emergency calls. Is there anyway i can get around that? Because obviously i am in reach of a tower for signal. It just wont let me use it unless its 911. I dont need internet data or anything like that, just be able to call. Changeable?
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Wow nobody even telling me i cant?
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Ehh try rebooting your phone or reselect your network.
If you're getting a signal, but you can't do anything but emergency calls, it means that specific network's tower is refusing to let you connect because T-Mobile doesn't have any roaming agreements with them.
And there is no way to get around that...
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If you're getting a signal, but you can't do anything but emergency calls, it means that specific network's tower is refusing to let you connect because T-Mobile doesn't have any roaming agreements with them.
And there is no way to get around that...
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Thats kind of what i was thinking.. the ONLY carrier around there is at&t. So i guess at&t doesnt allow other companies to roam.. gay as hell.. and iv always been curious about the unlocking thing does it mean that i would be able to use at&t's signal on my phone with tmobile sim .. or do i need to put a at&t sim card in my phone. Bc i kno the vibrant is at&t capable... sorry if dumb question
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FATEOWNZYOU said:
Thats kind of what i was thinking.. the ONLY carrier around there is at&t. So i guess at&t doesnt allow other companies to roam.. gay as hell.. and iv always been curious about the unlocking thing does it mean that i would be able to use at&t's signal on my phone with tmobile sim .. or do i need to put a at&t sim card in my phone. Bc i kno the vibrant is at&t capable... sorry if dumb question
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Unlocking means sim unlocking, or the ability to use any company's sim, provided your phone can connect to their network.
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The thing is, if T-Mobile has ABSOLUTELY no signal in an area, they have roaming agreements there, even if it's AT&T.
There must be a T-Mobile tower somewhere near there, so it won't let you connect to the AT&T tower with anything else except emergency calls.
If you really need to be able to call someone, go to Wal-Mart or something and buy the cheapest AT&T prepaid phone, get some prepaid time, unlock your Vibrant, and pop the AT&T SIM in your card. You will get data too, since it'll just use some money off your account for data, and you will get 3G since the Vibrant is AT&T 3G capable.
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The thing is, if T-Mobile has ABSOLUTELY no signal in an area, they have roaming agreements there, even if it's AT&T.
There must be a T-Mobile tower somewhere near there, so it won't let you connect to the AT&T tower with anything else except emergency calls.
If you really need to be able to call someone, go to Wal-Mart or something and buy the cheapest AT&T prepaid phone, get some prepaid time, unlock your Vibrant, and pop the AT&T SIM in your card. You will get data too, since it'll just use some money off your account for data, and you will get 3G since the Vibrant is AT&T 3G capable.
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Thats kind of what i figured i would have to do... Thanks
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Guys,
I am about to received my SGS 2 tomorrow.
I am in Australia on a 850mhz 3g (read not GSM) network (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_G)
I know the phone supports this band, but I see some region firmwares floating around and am wondering if ALL firmwares support this band? Or is firmware specific.
Thanks guys.
Im on VR1.1 with everything else stock and next g is cool with me. Preordered from UK so mines from release.
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tjjensen23 said:
Im on VR1.1 with everything else stock and next g is cool with me. Preordered from UK so mines from release.
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Can I ask how you know your on Next G and not just 3g?
You can use non 850mhz Bands with Telstra and get std 3g.
Well im just assuming. But where i live all my family get 1bar with optus/3/voda whereas i get full bars. If u have a way for me to check ill have a look
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Well im just assuming. But where i live all my family get 1bar with optus/3/voda whereas i get full bars. If u have a way for me to check ill have a look
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not really sure how to check, the best I could figure out is install Network Info II and check network type
Should be HSDPA/UMTS?
I cant seem to find any tool to tell you exact frequency the phone is using.
It is not firmware dependent (If someone buys a Vodaphone branded SGS2 it is still going to work with NextG, but it will probably just be SIM locked). NextG is HSPA noted by the 'H+' symbol. When I was on Three is was just 'H' which is HSPDA.
If you dial *#*#4636#*#* and go phone information -> menu key -> Select Radio Band -> AUS2 Band
AUS2 is NextG 850Mhz, so if you get internet access on that, it is running NextG. The Phone Information section will also tell you your current network protocol also. If it is reporting UMTS then click the 'run ping test' button, it will flick over to HSPA
Hspa when data is being used
Umts when data is inactive
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It is not firmware dependent, NextG is HSPA noted by the 'H+' symbol. When I was on Three is was just 'H' which is HSPDA.
If you dial *#*#4636#*#* and go phone information -> menu key -> Select Radio Band -> AUS2 Band
AUS2 is NextG 850Mhz, so if you get internet access on that, it is running NextG.
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Yes it shows as H+
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Also just rum some speed tests and you'll know if you're on 3g or HSDPA.
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thanks guys.
Once it has charged I will put SIM in and test all this, very excited as moving from my HTC Desire
Sorry to dig this post up from the grave, but I'm about to move my SGSii to Telstra, as well.
I was wondering if you found benefit to these changes, and if you've changed anything further since.
Have you found any particular ROM/modem to be better (either in reception or battery life) than others.
And, finally, what sort of battery life do you get? I get about 14 hours before I have to plug it in, but I get terrible reception at work (I'm currently on 3), so I'm thinking that might have something to do with it.
Thanks heaps.
just a trick to make max allowed connection from 1 to 8 on gsm/umts network mode
make sure you get 3g network as this doesn't work over 2g connections
just make network mode and select network to automatic
and open mobile hotspot setting>manage devices>device limit
you 'll probably get 8 devices selections
I am getting on my mopho in india on bsnl,airtel tested.
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Yea till the bill comes... Sprint don't play that lol
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deepak251146 said:
just a trick
I am getting on my mopho in india on bsnl,airtel tested.
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umm....its not a trick, its built-in, in the OS.
Here in the US, the carriers (Sprint for the Photon) control everything about their phones and tethering is one of the features that is locked. They (all) want money from customers and hence force customers to buy a tethering plan.
Fortunately for us, rooting solves the problem.
Not to mention that Airtel will be reporting your data usage to Sprint as an international partner with them. That's the only reason you're even allowed on the Airtel network - because you have an active Sprint account.
You will be billed for data usage and airtime, at international rates without an international plan or a prepaid sim, you better believe that.
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Not to mention that Airtel will be reporting your data usage to Sprint as an international partner with them. That's the only reason you're even allowed on the Airtel network - because you have an active Sprint account.
You will be billed for data usage and airtime, at international rates without an international plan or a prepaid sim, you better believe that.
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I hadnot yet activated my photon over sprint.And in my locality sprint international roaming partner is reliance cdma(confirmed).I had got it worked on any gsm sim card in india.
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Yea till the bill comes... Sprint don't play that lol
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I am not using over sprint international roaming.I installed native sim card and getting 8 devices mobile hotspot on 3g network on gsm/umts mode selection. sprint has nothing to do with this.
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I appreciate your knowledge.
plz note that motorola photon's new update included 3G UMTS hotspot functionality for a single Wi-Fi enabled device .
release notes: www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Suppor...RN_Blur_Version.45.3.6.MB855.Sprint.en.US.pdf
so I got it working from one device to 8 devices after switching network mode to automatic.
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I appreciate your knowledge.
plz note that motorola photon's new update included 3G UMTS hotspot functionality for a single Wi-Fi enabled device .
release notes: www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Suppor...RN_Blur_Version.45.3.6.MB855.Sprint.en.US.pdf
so I got it working from one device to 8 devices after switching network mode to automatic.
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Some good info for me here.
deepak251146 said:
I am not using over sprint international roaming.I installed native sim card and getting 8 devices mobile hotspot on 3g network on gsm/umts mode selection. sprint has nothing to do with this.
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Please explain how you are getting this for free and how this applies to us? If not Sprint (who provides access and billing to these technologies *outside the US* using the "native" sim card), then who is your gsm/umts provider?
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Please explain how you are getting this for free and how this applies to us? If not Sprint (who provides access and billing to these technologies *outside the US* using the "native" sim card), then who is your gsm/umts provider?
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It will not work on Sprint network nor wherever sprint coverage is available as on switching network mode to automatic it will connect to sprint network.
I am using it in india on airtel gsm sim card and "airtelgprs.com" apn for internet connection.Mobile hotspot's data connection is using my airtel's apn which is deducted from my gprs plan.I am using over 3 devices connected from my photon for a month now.
I am able to do this only after updating it to the new ota update available aka 198_6. In the updates release note mobile hotspot over 3g for 1 device has been revealed.you will get device limit as 1 on swiching network mode to gsm/umts. but when u make the network mode to automatic you 'll get device limit as 8 while you are still on 3g gsm network.
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So using Airtel in India is free? Or was your title suggesting a free tip to opening the max connections to 8?
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So using Airtel in India is free? Or was your title suggesting a free tip to opening the max connections to 8?
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yeah you got me bro I was trying to suggest to open max connection to 8.
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yeah you got me bro I was trying to suggest to open max connection to 8.
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Ahhhh, okay. Thats what I've been trying to find out, where that "free" was coming from lol. Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to back-track to this thread if I ever go overseas.
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Ahhhh, okay. Thats what I've been trying to find out, where that "free" was coming from lol. Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to back-track to this thread if I ever go overseas.
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actually here in india there is a trick to browse internet for free on airtel using proxy server's and is giving quite fast speed.
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I have an unlocked lg thrill. I have a tmobile sim card and i get edge and 2g service. I need a carrier tjat uses either 1700 1900 or 2100 mhz. No 1800. Can someone help me please. I have been doing research amd i must be doing it WRONGcuz i cant get a straight answer. Can i use boost? Virgin mobile? I remember seeing that i could use straight talk but i cant find it again and am not sure. Its a money thing. Im not scrooge McDuck!!!!! Thanks for any help!
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I'll try and keep this from turning into a book.
Basically I have a HTC Thunderbolt right now. It is being replaced under the extended warranty that I have with Verizon. Since they don't have any more T-bolts they are sending me a HTC Incredible 4G under my total equipment protection policy.
I have already ordered a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) and will be going to T-Mobile with that eventually bringing my wife over as well when her contract is up. The only reason I did the warranty claim was because my T-bolt was dead and I might as well get a free phone out of them before dropping them since my contract is up and such. That way rather than have a 1.5 year old dead T-bolt that is good for nothing but the trash, I would have a functioning phone which I could sell. Make sense so far?
So my initial thought was that I would sell the phone take the cash to recoup some of my cost of the N4 or use it toward buying my wife's new phone on the T-Mobile network. Then I saw something about the Incredible 4G being compatible with a GSM network and that if I modify the APN that I might be able to get it on T-Mobile with HSPA+. If that is the case I will just keep the phone and have a brand new phone for free for my wife rather than sell this one and buy a different one. When they ship out the new phone it will come with a Verizon SIM that I can use to get it on their network, my account is still active with them so I can call them and get and try and get an unlock code if I need one of those before I cancel my account and I can get any updates that may be out there for the phone.
Of course if this won't work I would rather sell the phone as basically a new phone, well it might be a refurb but I don't know that for sure because they said they had to send me a complete kit because I don't have a battery and battery cover that would fit since I have a T-bolt now. Though they may have complete phones as refurbs.
So if it will work, what will I need to do before I cancel my plan? Though there was that new law that went into effect the other day that makes it illegal to unlock a phone.. But if I let Verizon do it I would imagine it isn't an issue.
Phone is factory unlocked I'm using on gsm, if you are on android 4.0.4 you are unlocked already and just need to set up apn
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Phone is factory unlocked I'm using on gsm, if you are on android 4.0.4 you are unlocked already and just need to set up apn
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Thanks. I saw some posts from a while back that hinted at that but it mentions an upcoming update which may change some things. To be safe I will test it with my new T-Mobile SIM when I get that. The Nexus 4 also uses the micro SIM.
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I have this phone and have a net 10 sim card. Tried dozens of APN combo's but all I get is edge service. Is this all I can get? Any help would be great people!
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I have this phone and have a net 10 sim card. Tried dozens of APN combo's but all I get is edge service. Is this all I can get? Any help would be great people!
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That's because 3g bands of that network aren't compatible, however if you flash cm10 you'll get more bands unlocked
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I'm on cyanogen 10.1. I can't seek to change the band. I dialed #*#*4636*#*# and get The menu. It let's me change my preferred network "gsm,lte,CDMA, etc. I'm using a net 10 sim. Anyone know how to get faster internet?
I know what AINT working!
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Is there a differentmenu? Maybe a different sim is the answer. Help please! I know there is a solution out here!
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I'm on cyanogen 10.1. I can't seek to change the band. I dialed #*#*4636*#*# and get The menu. It let's me change my preferred network "gsm,lte,CDMA, etc. I'm using a net 10 sim. Anyone know how to get faster internet?
I know what AINT working!
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Is there a differentmenu? Maybe a different sim is the answer. Help please! I know there is a solution out here!
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Press menú and select bands
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I tried that. Here goes some different steps I took:
I started with cyyanogen last nightly build.
Tried switching all the different settings in the hidden men u (gsm, CDMA only prl) etc. Changed the bands from automatic to to aus2. No good except auto and USA. 2g
Did this on viper and got the options 800mhz and 1900 MHz. No good on 1900. 800mhz 2g. (E)
Used the very alpha miui ROM from the general section and got two different radio strength bars. One was 1x and the one above it (weird right) was 3g. Had signal on the 1x but couldn't use the phone right away. Had no service on the 3g (although it started out with 3bars and slowly went to 0 and stayed) changed the APN to tfdata. Got phone but no data. Had to put the phone back onto gsm only to get data. Which gavee just the one signal bar.
I'm trying here folks!!!!
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I tried that. Here goes some different steps I took:
I started with cyyanogen last nightly build.
Tried switching all the different settings in the hidden men u (gsm, CDMA only prl) etc. Changed the bands from automatic to to aus2. No good except auto and USA. 2g
Did this on viper and got the options 800mhz and 1900 MHz. No good on 1900. 800mhz 2g. (E)
Used the very alpha miui ROM from the general section and got two different radio strength bars. One was 1x and the one above it (weird right) was 3g. Had signal on the 1x but couldn't use the phone right away. Had no service on the 3g (although it started out with 3bars and slowly went to 0 and stayed) changed the APN to tfdata. Got phone but no data. Had to put the phone back onto gsm only to get data. Which gavee just the one signal bar.
I'm trying here folks!!!!
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I found the 3g bands for your network are 850 and 1900 however looks like you live on a non 3g area, you just needed to Google it
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I have been googling it for 3 days. I'm pretty sure I should get service here. Any coverage map says I'm right in the middle of the good zone. At&t, sprint, Tmobile, Verizon, virginmobile, all confirmed get signal and data here. I have been finding it a little difficult to find a lot on the radio bands but 1900 got no service here at all.
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I have been googling it for 3 days. I'm pretty sure I should get service here. Any coverage map says I'm right in the middle of the good zone. At&t, sprint, Tmobile, Verizon, virginmobile, all confirmed get signal and data here. I have been finding it a little difficult to find a lot on the radio bands but 1900 got no service here at all.
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Strange, our phone got 850 and 1900 bands at stock, and you only get 2g, have you ever got a h, also set bands in automatic and wcdma only, then search for networks manually, best way to know what carriers will work
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Gotcha.
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Hmmmmm, I never tried to use it with this sim in it stock. No no h. Just the e (sometimes g!) IMA ruu it right quick. I saw something on here bout stock but never really paid it any attention.
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g means 3g
Nah. g means 1g. Analog.
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Nah. g means 1g. Analog.
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not in this case, you said you were not using your phone in stock, theres a bug where the 3g symbol got changed to g for gsm users, i read about it, statusbar theming on htc devices caused the h symbol to be swaped to g symbol, sorry about not being clear on last post
No. The g is definitely 1g. 5-15 KB a sec. All the symbols work I think because when I had Verizon on the same rom it showed the 1x, 3g, lte, icons, depending upon where I was. Usually lte or 3g. I'm going to get some go phone sims in a week or whenever they come in. The sim cards are cheap so I can change them out no prob. I just have ran out of $350 a month for phone service. I can almost deal with it Cuz its slow but very stout signal. Never dropped a download yet. I just don't like having to set up all my DL to run while I sleep. I'm used to lte ya dig!
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Hi all
any way to put 850 band on htc incredible 4g?
i only see 800 - 1900 and japan bands 800 - 2000
You have to use a difderent sim card. There are people on here who know what oones tp get but they dont really like to. AT&T is supposed to work. Im not sure. You cannot put another frequency antenna on this phone without taking it apart and using a soldering iron. (Good luck!)
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No. The g is definitely 1g. 5-15 KB a sec. All the symbols work I think because when I had Verizon on the same rom it showed the 1x, 3g, lte, icons, depending upon where I was. Usually lte or 3g. I'm going to get some go phone sims in a week or whenever they come in. The sim cards are cheap so I can change them out no prob. I just have ran out of $350 a month for phone service. I can almost deal with it Cuz its slow but very stout signal. Never dropped a download yet. I just don't like having to set up all my DL to run while I sleep. I'm used to lte ya dig!
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you are arguing with a very experienced person here. him and i both know a thing or two about phones and i must say, if he's sure its a bug, then it is. I am inclined to believe him too because we all know that HTC programmed this phone for a specific service initially, and they were not counting on it ever going outside the VZW network. That being said, there is no way for the phone to tell what network its on. Case and point... i just manually flashed my phone to the MetroPCS PRL and it still says Verizon Wireless... The network speed i get will not be shown as LTE even though i have it, because it only ever used GSM for LTE(which is partially GSM-based technology), not voice and data. So, on the stock rom, the phone is and will be "confused". CM10.1 works great and DOES know the difference. You will have best results by being s-off as i am.