Our SGSII is probably getting ICS right? But any idea on when will that happen?
And is there any change that someone makes WP7 Mango rom for SGSII?
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ICS is supposed to come out within the next couple of months on google phones, so add another 2 - 3 months for a Samsung release.
WP7 is not open source so the only way to port it would be if there was an identical Samsung WP7 phone on the market, which there isn't. So, unless that happens, we wont see WP7 on the GSII.
As far as i know u need the specific qualcomm snapdragon chipset for wp7 so it won't be possible on exynos.ICS Q1 2012 maybe....
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But maybe cyanogen will port it sooner
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ICS is supposed to come out within the next couple of months on google phones, so add another 2 - 3 months for a Samsung release.
WP7 is not open source so the only way to port it would be if there was an identical Samsung WP7 phone on the market, which there isn't. So, unless that happens, we wont see WP7 on the GSII.
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What about the new released Samsung Focus S? Does this make it possible Now? It seems to be VERY similar. I could't find out what the actual specifics are of the hardware, but the screen seems identical.
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What about the new released Samsung Focus S? Does this make it possible Now? It seems to be VERY similar. I could't find out what the actual specifics are of the hardware, but the screen seems identical.
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They have different CPU chipsets and GPUs.
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Is it going to take a year or will we be blessed with ICS shortly after its release?
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If it's anything like the Captivate, we'll get the update via Carrier after a long delay, but custom ROMs will have it not long after it appears for the international SGS2.
Go figure....lol
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why ask when you know the answer - lol
Being that ICS hasn't even been released yet, means the manufacturers dont have the code to make it work on the phone. Which means we are probably 8-12 months away from seeing a "leaked" ICS.
Who knows. If the phone hardware is similar, we might get an early release of ICS based on the Nexus Prime version.
LOL your right but who knows ICS is designed for dual core hardware so we might get lucky lets just see.........
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It wont take long
It'll take a long time. Because this phone is already 20 years old. Thanks to att
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From att? 8 Months. from cyanogen? 8 hours.
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From att? 8 Months. from cyanogen? 8 hours.
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Haha. Seriously. Gotta love CM.
I was actually pretty happy running cognition, Unnamed, etc, but now I'm running CM7 because I know CM will serve up ice cream sandwich months before we see it from Samsung or elsewhere.
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Who knows. If the phone hardware is similar, we might get an early release of ICS based on the Nexus Prime version.
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Haha, sounds like what we all said about GB since the Nexus S is so close to the Captivate (and Galaxy S).
when google releases jellybeans, ATT will release ice cream....
i hope its not jellybeans. I dont like jellybeans. lets call it 'jalapeno'
I really hope we'll get it relatively soon... but if not I'll just leave it too the custom ROM devs to get it to us xD
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i hope its not jellybeans. I dont like jellybeans. lets call it 'jalapeno'
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Lol I prefer JuJu beans.
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i hope its not jellybeans. I dont like jellybeans. lets call it 'jalapeno'
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Well that's not really a dessert/sweet (;
Wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being jellybean.
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Looks like ICS is a 3 button lay out from what the video shows on the Galaxy Nexus.
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(dates are approximate, based solely on my fuzzy memory)
If the history of the Captivate can be a guide:
AOSP Froyo was released in about July(?) of last year, I9000 Froyo and leaked versions of Froyo for Captivate started appearing around October, official AT&T UCKB1 Froyo dropped in late February. So, about 8 months for official Froyo.
AOSP GB was released in about Feb., Samsung I9000 custom ROMs appeared around May, and official AT&T Captivate GB still has not been released nor has any definite timeline even been announced. 2011 was all that was given in a press release a few months back, but 8 months would put it around Dec/Jan.
But the I777 AT&T SGS II deviates less from the international SGSII though, which *might* make it easier/simpler for Samsung and AT&T to shorten the development cycle. Captivate had stuff like the Audience chip that the international I9000 didn't, and omittted stuff like the front-facing camera, flash, and FM radio. SGSII also has less bloat that needs to be updated.
We'll just have to see how much faster the development cycle is, if it's improved at all.
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Looks like ICS is a 3 button lay out from what the video shows on the Galaxy Nexus.
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Yea its gonna be a wonder how they put it on our phones since we have the 4 capacitive buttons and the ics buttons are part of the ui...just disable them all together???
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That's what has me wondering .......
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Not sure if you all have seen this but there is a partial list of which phones are confirmed to get ICS...and the SGS2 is unconfirmed. I guess thats better than a "NO" right?
http://www.engadget.com/updates/which-devices-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
Whether or not it's legit, I've seen the same listed on various other sites as well.
http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/general/samsung-announces-list-of-planned-ics-upgrades-r67
Sure hope the second website is correct! If Samsung does upgrade the international to ICS, hopefully ATT wont take too long to get it to our devices.
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some sites are reporting that the skyrocket will get the ICS upgrade in early 2012.
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/11/04...-android-lte-smartphones-made-by-samsung-htc/
Honestly not too psyched for ICS. Only new feature that'll be cool is the Google Chrome Browser.
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Sure hope the second website is correct! If Samsung does upgrade the international to ICS, hopefully ATT wont take too long to get it to our devices.
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AT&T will take forever - however, if we're lucky, the I9100 source drop for the kernel will include drivers for the I777. If it does, porting ICS will be a matter of a week or two.
Actually, based on what I've seen, the Linux 3.0 sources are FAR cleaner in the arch/arm tree than 2.6.35 - so even if I777 drivers are missing, porting them should be easier. Main area of concern is the MAX8922 battery charger. Fixing touchkey should be easy if missing from sources (It's just one or two #defines for our device as it is.)
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AT&T will take forever - however, if we're lucky, the I9100 source drop for the kernel will include drivers for the I777. If it does, porting ICS will be a matter of a week or two.
Actually, based on what I've seen, the Linux 3.0 sources are FAR cleaner in the arch/arm tree than 2.6.35 - so even if I777 drivers are missing, porting them should be easier. Main area of concern is the MAX8922 battery charger. Fixing touchkey should be easy if missing from sources (It's just one or two #defines for our device as it is.)
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You are one of the guys that make me not even worry about any kind of "official" release.
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You are one of the guys that make me not even worry about any kind of "official" release.
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Completely agree with you
FWIW the same site posted above has this.
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/10/28...smartphones-tablets-to-receive-it-in-q2-2012/
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Honestly not too psyched for ICS. Only new feature that'll be cool is the Google Chrome Browser.
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I'm not real psyched about it either.
But one thing I am interested in is direct OS support of data logging and control gui of each and every app that uses data. It appears to allow you the capability of limiting or all out shutting of data separately by each individual app if you choose.
could be real useful for those of us on limited data plans.
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Ice Cream Sandwich Upgrade
Galaxy S II Skyrocket & Vivid to Get Ice Cream Sandwich Upgrade in 2012 [AT&T Confirms Android 4.0 ICS Upgrade For Its Two Android LTE Smartphones, Made by Samsung & HTC]
When it comes to Android updates, there's never any good news.
cant wait for ICS for gs2
I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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it is possible... theres somebody on the evo 3D doing it, same chipset so its not a far fetched idea.....whether we get a working version, who knows, we'll have to wait for the cm team like last time and they never do things without source, and if anybody wants to port it via SDK, good luck i guess cuz i dont think anybody tried SDK ports for ICS on the touchpad
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it is possible... theres somebody on the evo 3D doing it, same chipset so its not a far fetched idea.....whether we get a working version, who knows, we'll have to wait for the cm team like last time and they never do things without source, and if anybody wants to port it via SDK, good luck i guess cuz i dont think anybody tried SDK ports for ICS on the touchpad
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And since Jelly Bean is just like a small step from ICS.... It shouldn't be that hard.... Only project butter stands in our way...
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I know it is very early.....but I was who seeing whether it was possible to port jellybean on HP touchpad via SDK....devs at Acer A500 have done it...
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They use unmodified cm9 kernel
So we just need someone to compile the sdk
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They use unmodified cm9 kernel
So we just need someone to compile the sdk
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We could contact the cm team but I guess they would not build the sdk one....so we will need to contact other devs
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And since Jelly Bean is just like a small step from ICS.... It shouldn't be that hard.... Only project butter stands in our way...
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don't be saying things down that road lol...you'll get alot of backlash like the e3d forums.....froyo to gingerbread wasn't a huge step but it took people a very long time. Lets just wait for source to be out next month it isnt a very long time. Then since the base framework is similar, it won't take that much longer then it should. I'm more interested in the PDK feature which gives basic source codes for the hardware side of things, exciting times
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don't be saying things down that road lol...you'll get alot of backlash like the e3d forums.....froyo to gingerbread wasn't a huge step but it took people a very long time. Lets just wait for source to be out next month it isnt a very long time. Then since the base framework is similar, it won't take that much longer then it should. I'm more interested in the PDK feature which gives basic source codes for the hardware side of things, exciting times
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U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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Porting anything from the SDK has always been horrible, its not that easy and even if it were that isn't to say it'll be any good.
Remember those SDK ports of Honeycomb...horrendous. There's a reason nobody bothered with an SDK port of ICS for the Touchpad...there terrible.
I'm fine with just waiting until source code is ready. Unlike the switch from GB to ICS on a tablet which was huge, JB isn't really groundbreaking. It has some nice new features but after playing around in the SDK for a while I didn't really see anything that I couldn't wait a few months for.
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U don't understand small step...the base is the same...the framework has been tweaked and the system has been made more fluid due to project butter so.....it should not be took hard to port from the sdk
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I understand it perfectly......it is a small step yes, but in the grand scheme of things when you get an SDK port, when has it always worked perfectly?? If we're testing proof of concept here i can understand but you people want jelly bean to use straight away and to tinker with it. Devs I think have lives and if someone wanted to do it, they would've done it by now cuz its already being booted (albeit black screen) on the one x. Instead of the frustration of porting something using SDK they'd rather wait for source, because then people will start complaining that "this doesn't work, that doesn't work" so on and so forth
Anyone else think it's weird how they went back to the phone layout for the nexus 7? Will it be that way on larger tablets? I'm not a huge fan of how notifications work on my touchpad but the controls may be hard to reach if they go with a phone layout.
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I'd like to mess with SDK port. If a dev would do it. The port for one x has already been updated. They are really going at it...even if they know it wont ever fully work. Maybe they are just getting head start on development.
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its a waste of time. why would any dev spend their time on it,just to have to start over when the real source
comes out.
Why don't you ask the one x dev working on SDK port why he is deving it? Jb source will be out in 2 weeks.
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People do it because they want to. Why should that affect others?
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Anyone else think it's weird how they went back to the phone layout for the nexus 7? Will it be that way on larger tablets? I'm not a huge fan of how notifications work on my touchpad but the controls may be hard to reach if they go with a phone layout.
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while the current tablet ui layout is mostly functional, its not very pretty and a bit disjointed when coming from a phone version of android. it also doesnt allow manufacturers to put physical buttons on a tablet without them being redundant, and is called fragmented when compared to the ios on the iphone to ipad. it wouldnt surprise me if they went with this design as their new tablet layout. and it probably wouldnt be as bad as you think. with future cm9 or aokp customizations, youll probably be able to adjust the positions of the nav bar however you want.
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while the current tablet ui layout is mostly functional, its not very pretty and a bit disjointed when coming from a phone version of android. it also doesnt allow manufacturers to put physical buttons on a tablet without them being redundant, and is called fragmented when compared to the ios on the iphone to ipad. it wouldnt surprise me if they went with this design as their new tablet layout. and it probably wouldnt be as bad as you think. with future cm9 or aokp customizations, youll probably be able to adjust the positions of the nav bar however you want.
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I've long thought that the tablet UI for large tablets makes a lot of sense as if straddles the ground between desktop and phone quite nicely. Google aren't making the Nexus 7 UI default for these tablets either, if you emulate a touchpad withe the sdk then you get the UI we have now. On my small A100 the layout is pretty poor, and of course the resolution isn't all that great either but it's so crowded. The Nexus 7 UI works out nicely for smaller screens I think
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Yeah I tried a Galaxy tab 7 at the store yesterday and the ics tablet mode is a little tight. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing for a 7" tablet.
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Does that mean that all the work that has been done so far to get a working camera and microphone on ICS for the TP will go to waste with a new firmware?
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Does that mean that all the work that has been done so far to get a working camera and microphone on ICS for the TP will go to waste with a new firmware?
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No, it shouldn't be a waste. ICS is 4.0.x, JB is 4.1.x and is a refined ICS. So all the progress should be able to migrate over.
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Hi, I was interested in building an ICS ROM for the galaxy player 4.2. After compiling ICS from the source, what steps do you need to take to make it into a ROM?
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I'm afraid it's not THAT simple. AFAIK, there is a lot of work to be done before a booting ICS can be achieved. If you have no prior experience in android ROM development, I don't think this is a task you should take up right now. ICS compiled from the AOSP will not work on the 4.2 without modification and an ICS kernel, both of which are far beyond my current technological skill. Also this should be in general. Yes, I know it IS development related, but this IS a development site. Questions belong in the general thread. Thanks.
Odp: Developing ROMs?
Well starting by practice is good way imo. I did so But wothout knowledge, you have to be extremely patient
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I understand, maybe I can look at how it was achieved on the other players and it might be similar?
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I wouldn't look at the other players, as the 4.2 is pretty different from the 4 and 5. Try finding another Samsung product with similar hardware. Example: the galaxy player 5.0 is very similar to the SGS i9000 , Nexus S (crespo), and GTab p1000.
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Okay, but I'm pretty sure the 4.2 is similar to nexus s?
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Compare specs. Find out.
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by specs our devices are quite similar, by kernel etc. less but still similar.
I think that good and interesting way of learning is to add same/similar modifications as on crespo/aries and try to understand how does it accually work.
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm quite busy at the moment catching up with school work, I'll see what I can do this weekend.
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Hell, the 4.2 might even get an official update. Unlikely, but possible. IDK if Samsung has made a statement about this, but it only came out last year. (I think)
I called Samsung and asked about official updates and they said the 4.2 won't be getting any because the specs aren't good enough....
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I called Samsung and asked about official updates and they said the 4.2 won't be getting any because the specs aren't good enough....
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Thats a lie. there was a device called the Galaxy Music that had an 800 mHz processor that got JB.
Samsung wont update the galaxy players because they are much cheaper compared to phones (take the s3 for example, it costs 700-800 bucks if you get it without a contract)
I'd suggest reading through the following threads if you haven't already. Then ask about the specific parts there you're not understanding.
[GUIDE] How to port ROMs to the Galaxy Players
[Guide]Rom Development for Dummies (and a few other things)
And I found this one that describes the complete process for the aospa rom. You should be able to adapt the details for whatever rom you're working on.
[GUIDE][AOSPA:v3.+] How to Compile AOSPA from Source : + Support and Maintenance
That won't work until there is a working ICS kernel though. And even after that is completed, work will need to be done on the ROM.
Hello everybody.
Sorry in advance, I suppose that this question should be a sort of XDA trending topic during these days. However after a little search, I didn't find anything similar on the matter. Hence I'm opening a new thread. Feel free to close it if necessary
I suppose that somebody is already working on a "Google Edition" of i9300. A vanilla AOSP. Would it be so different from a classic CyanogenMod or AOKP?
Thank you for your answers.
Peace.
Will just look like the nexus but with a better camera and new bootanimation
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No it is not possible to directly port it as the Google Ed. phone runs Qualcomm's Snapdragon 600. The i9300's sorry excuse of an SoC is Exynos 4.
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No it is not possible to directly port it as the Google Ed. phone runs Qualcomm's Snapdragon 600. The i9300's sorry excuse of an SoC is Exynos 4.
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What's so bad with Exynos? When this device came out it was a beast compared any other on the market. So far we have a well established base of development and mods.
There is nothing wrong with Our SOC other than its now older than the newer devices.
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What's so bad with Exynos? When this device came out it was a beast compared any other on the market. So far we have a well established base of development and mods.
There is nothing wrong with Our SOC other than its now older than the newer devices.
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Nothing wrong? No sources and no documentation and what's on Insignal is almost entirely useless.
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Nothing wrong? No sources and no documentation and what's on Insignal is almost entirely useless.
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So for you its useless but my s3 is running like a champ since day one.
And hell, I don't even like AOSP Roms anymore. My opinion OK!!
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So for you its useless but my s3 is running like a champ since day one.
And hell, I don't even like AOSP Roms anymore. My opinion OK!!
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Yes, it's your opinion and you're entitled to one, but you're wrong when you say that there's nothing wrong with Exynos 4. Though I bet no SoC is per definition "perfect".
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Yes, it's your opinion and you're entitled to one, but you're wrong when you say that there's nothing wrong with Exynos 4. Though I bet no SoC is per definition "perfect".
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Its not bad its Samsung that's being secretive about its sources.
Of course I also though tegra was good until I got this phone.
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Samsung TW is slow, i have CM10.1 based its a lot faster and longer batterij
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coolnessQ said:
Samsung TW is slow, i have CM10.1 based its a lot faster and longer batterij
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Not as fast as it could be if the sources for the Exynos based processors were available.
To answer OPs question technically it is possible but it will require a lot of time and effort ..not to mention a lot of skill as well...the reason being both are quite different phones with different SoCs ..it would be somewhat easier to do it from the AOSP source code but as everyone already knows without documentation from Samsung that is again a difficult prospect ...none of the devs want to invest time in a project which they already know will be a a failure ...this is not about which is better TW or pure Google experience but about having a choice.
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Why would you want to when there are so many alternative versions out there?
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Not as fast as it could be if the sources for the Exynos based processors were available.
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Yeah thats true
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Thread closed as its a duplicate of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43047800#post43047800