wonder how sense would run on this phone
*facepalm*
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wonder how sense would run on this phone
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Sense. You mean that thing from HTC that has the biggest security flaw ever seen on a smart phone? No thanks, I'll pass. If you want a Sense like UI, go with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets.
i do like the sense interface. and the privacy leak was from an apk that could be removed if i remember reading right
It would have that turrible icon for "Peep," baked in.
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Sense. You mean that thing from HTC that has the biggest security flaw ever seen on a smart phone? No thanks, I'll pass. If you want a Sense like UI, go with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets.
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Jeeze haters gonna hate. But sense is so awesome. I've used cm7 and miui and sense by far is the best!
Swyped from mah synergy evo!
its not a matter of its an apk, why was it there in teh first place? liek CIQ on most sprint phones, or how about "rescue mode" on others (developed by logmein, a remote access company) the point is if no one caught it then they wouldnt be backpeddling...
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Jeeze haters gonna hate. But sense is so awesome. I've used cm7 and miui and sense by far is the best!
Swyped from mah synergy evo!
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Not hating, just FACT. With a security hole like the one reported you might as well post all your info on your Facebook wall. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Sense over TW and Blur but not enough to leave a phone wide open like that. There is workarounds but that hole never should have made to production.
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Not hating, just FACT. With a security hole like the one reported you might as well post all your info on your Facebook wall. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Sense over TW and Blur but not enough to leave a phone wide open like that. There is workarounds but that hole never should have made to production.
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That's true and I agree. At least they're fixing it...
Swyped from mah synergy evo!
htc have = 10000xxxxxx developers and people testint their phones
moto have ......10?! developers per phone....
or do you think moto don't have the same probleme with motorola services? eheh
moto have the same biggest probleme, but no one cares about moto phones
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htc have = 10000xxxxxx developers and people testint their phones
moto have ......10?! developers per phone....
or do you think moto don't have the same probleme with motorola services? eheh
moto have the same biggest probleme, but no one cares about moto phones
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This
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EclipseX said:
htc have = 10000xxxxxx developers and people testint their phones
moto have ......10?! developers per phone....
or do you think moto don't have the same probleme with motorola services? eheh
moto have the same biggest probleme, but no one cares about moto phones
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The locked bootloader is the reason for this. That is also why you are seeing the developer migration from HTC to Samsung.
Look at the OG Droid. That thing had tons of dev support. I, for one would love to see Papa Google take webtop and use it as a launchpad for Chrome OS. That would be awesome.
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ill be honest there is 2 reasons why i am even here. 1 ACS (at teh time) didnt have anyone even planning on coming to the photon. 2nd, webtop.. it means in 3-4 years i can still have a fully functional htpc running at a very cheap electrical cost (much cheaper than my xbox 360) or browsing the web or whatever.. while in 3-4 years that brand new shiney SGS2.. will be traded in for the next hunk of plastic
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ill be honest there is 2 reasons why i am even here. 1 ACS (at teh time) didnt have anyone even planning on coming to the photon. 2nd, webtop.. it means in 3-4 years i can still have a fully functional htpc running at a very cheap electrical cost (much cheaper than my xbox 360) or browsing the web or whatever.. while in 3-4 years that brand new shiney SGS2.. will be traded in for the next hunk of plastic
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I fired up webtop for the first time today and while there is a "betaness" to it I'm very impressed. I am probably going to buy a small, beautiful Samsung television to run this on and start incorporating its use more and more.
Shabby, you seem knowledgeable, maybe you could tell me...
1. Can we extend USB ports with a port expander?
2. Do you know of any printing solutions? I know Kodak won't play with Linux but I'm pretty sure HP is in, so perhaps plug and play? But if so...I don't know of any Android office suites that even have a printing option.
Also, sorry for posting off topic, but my questions are directly related to your statements.
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havent had a chance to yet, im saving up for a wedding so no money for the hd dock. but once i get it i will be enjoying webtop every day
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2nd, webtop.. it means in 3-4 years i can still have a fully functional htpc running at a very cheap electrical cost (much cheaper than my xbox 360) or browsing the web or whatever.. while in 3-4 years that brand new shiney SGS2.. will be traded in for the next hunk of plastic
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amen to this....
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I fired up webtop for the first time today and while there is a "betaness" to it I'm very impressed. I am probably going to buy a small, beautiful Samsung television to run this on and start incorporating its use more and more.
Shabby, you seem knowledgeable, maybe you could tell me...
1. Can we extend USB ports with a port expander?
2. Do you know of any printing solutions? I know Kodak won't play with Linux but I'm pretty sure HP is in, so perhaps plug and play? But if so...I don't know of any Android office suites that even have a printing option.
Also, sorry for posting off topic, but my questions are directly related to your statements.
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USB hubs are supported. I've even had 120GB ext HDD full of videos connected via a hub, granted it took forever to index but it worked.
I have a couple different printers here at work but haven't had the time to play with them yet as I'm still trying to get together a full feature set for webtop.
*now back to our regularly scheduled program
I have the thunderbolt with sense 3.0 its neat nice little features on it and such but this phone is great on battery(thunderbolt has great life too) for a reason its simplistic and such of the matter reminds me of the nexus brand.
Also Shabby thanks for joining the photon family
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Htc's sense isn't open source last time I checked. They frown upon use on non htc devices. Download a theme, a launcher theme, wallpaper and flip clock and be done with it. Then be thankful about how much smoother and faster "Motorola's ui " is
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Its not they gave beautiful widgets a C&D last year for their clock and they had to redesign it
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Now that there is the big news about the incredible HD aka thunderbolt, is htc going to stop making the HTC incredible?
No one can say but HTC or Verizon. However, the Incredible going EOL around the time Thunderbolt goes on sale wouldn't come as too much of a shock.
it may reach the end of its life for "normal" smartphone users but for Android enthusiasts and/or devs I sorta see the Inc as the new Nexus One...the Inc is one of the best if not the best unlocked phones on the market...
good to know, thanks for all of your input. I love the incredible, I just wish there was a way that it could get the new 4g service!!!!
yes they will stop making it... but don't worry cuz the inc is everywhere here at college. I have seen someone with an inc in every single one of my classes. Exactly one other inc user in all my small classes except for two others with the inc in English and more in giant lectures. The inc has 2 more years of ppl actually using it.
Besides I'm predicting a buy a thunderbolt get an incredible free promo in order to empty their inventory. Good news is this would mean more inc users.
Side Story:
I was in Chem and I saw someone in the row in front of me and a couple seats to the right using an incredible with my theme what are the odds??! I was so exited to reach over my friends and tap this guy on the back to tell him that I made that! Strangely he had no clue wtf XDA was which is weird cuz I only posted it on XDA. He wasn't interested in talking at all so I didn't get to ask him where he got it.
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I love my DINC.. My wife has one also. but she's not so happy, ( prev BB user ) so my plan is to find her a tour on CL and put her DINC in my dresser as a backup.. lol
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yes they will stop making it... but don't worry cuz the inc is everywhere here at college. I have seen someone with an inc in every single one of my classes. Exactly one other inc user in all my small classes except for two others with the inc in English and more in giant lectures. The inc has 2 more years of ppl actually using it.
Besides I'm predicting a buy a thunderbolt get an incredible free promo in order to empty their inventory. Good news is this would mean more inc users.
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I was in Chem and I saw someone in the row in front of me and a couple seats to the right using an incredible with my theme what are the odds??! I was so exited to reach over my friends and tap this guy on the back to tell him that I made that! Strangely he had no clue wtf XDA was which is weird cuz I only posted it on XDA. He wasn't interested in talking at all so I didn't get to ask him where he got it.
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Dude that must have been awesome feeling! but what a flake for not being frickin excited that you see him using YOUR hard work.
I'm thinkin once the Thunderbolt comes alive I will use my dads upgrade to get it and use the INC to keep learning Android. I agree the INC is a great learning phone, as was the Eris, but DAMN she was slow.
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yes they will stop making it... but don't worry cuz the inc is everywhere here at college. I have seen someone with an inc in every single one of my classes. Exactly one other inc user in all my small classes except for two others with the inc in English and more in giant lectures. The inc has 2 more years of ppl actually using it.
Besides I'm predicting a buy a thunderbolt get an incredible free promo in order to empty their inventory. Good news is this would mean more inc users.
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I was in Chem and I saw someone in the row in front of me and a couple seats to the right using an incredible with my theme what are the odds??! I was so exited to reach over my friends and tap this guy on the back to tell him that I made that! Strangely he had no clue wtf XDA was which is weird cuz I only posted it on XDA. He wasn't interested in talking at all so I didn't get to ask him where he got it.
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sounds like a real ****...shoulda kicked him
Since the 4G or LTE whatever VZW promotes it as will only be in limited cities for a long time it won't be worth it to get a Thunderbolt for a while. The DInc is one of the best phones out there so buying a Thunderbolt in a no 4G area is a waste of money.
distINCtINC said:
yes they will stop making it... but don't worry cuz the inc is everywhere here at college. I have seen someone with an inc in every single one of my classes. Exactly one other inc user in all my small classes except for two others with the inc in English and more in giant lectures. The inc has 2 more years of ppl actually using it.
Besides I'm predicting a buy a thunderbolt get an incredible free promo in order to empty their inventory. Good news is this would mean more inc users.
Side Story:
I was in Chem and I saw someone in the row in front of me and a couple seats to the right using an incredible with my theme what are the odds??! I was so exited to reach over my friends and tap this guy on the back to tell him that I made that! Strangely he had no clue wtf XDA was which is weird cuz I only posted it on XDA. He wasn't interested in talking at all so I didn't get to ask him where he got it.
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Lol you have mean people at your school.
I've met a few people who use my theme with SkyRaider and have gladly shaken hands with them
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Since the 4G or LTE whatever VZW promotes it as will only be in limited cities for a long time it won't be worth it to get a Thunderbolt for a while. The DInc is one of the best phones out there so buying a Thunderbolt in a no 4G area is a waste of money.
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That would be true if LTE was the one and only thing that Thunderbolt brought to the table.
What is so compelling to upgrade if not for the 4G?
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I'm personally gonna wait awhile to upgrade
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wpbear said:
What is so compelling to upgrade if not for the 4G?
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More screen real estate
Front facing camera
Better cpu
BT upgradeable to 3.0
Sense 2.0
No need for horizontal desktop cradle.
Conversely, the lack of a trackpad can be a compelling reason not to upgrade for many.
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More screen real estate
Front facing camera
Better cpu
BT upgradeable to 3.0
Sense 2.0
No need for horizontal desktop cradle.
Conversely, the lack of a trackpad can be a compelling reason not to upgrade for many.
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I do not think most will see a difference in most of these.
A bigger screen may be a bad thing since it is more uncomfortable in your pocket.
Sense 2.0 sounds good but it will be ported to the DInc probably since XDA has great developers.
A bigger CPU....really don't think the majority of users are going to feel a difference or need the faster CPU.
I am with Gahh Its Lee and probably going to wait. This is not normal for me as I usually buy the newest tech stuff at launch but cell companies need to work on towers and a full 4G network instead of worrying about selling phones that wont even work at top speed on 90% of their towers. They are putting the cart before the horse and I think VZW is taking a page from the ATT and Tmobile playbook by doing this.
I wonder if Verizon will do what they did with the X and give anyone who is upgrade eligible an upgrade early when the phone is released. I know there was that leaked info that said they were eliminating early upgrades altogether, but I wonder...
When this phone launches, with the bionic and 2x or whatever it is, vzw will be adding 4g to 175 more markets.
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have you guys noticed that the Thunderbolt cant be charged while using the kickstand?
the usb port is on the side it rests on... what terrible design flaw is that?
You can plug it in them put something under the stand part and just have the phone sit higher
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have you guys noticed that the Thunderbolt cant be charged while using the kickstand?
the usb port is on the side it rests on... what terrible design flaw is that?
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Honestly I think HTC is shorting us by not giving us 3.0 so the only reason I'm going to get this is we can port 3.0 to it. So what are the odds? How hard is going to be?
I guess they want more development time to set up Sense on Honeycomb and possibly to push it out sooner so people get this rather than Xoom...
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The first day we have a compatible kitchen, I'll have the port out. Can make that in 10 minutes.
I.e if they haven't switched from RUU to something new...
nex7er said:
The first day we have a compatible kitchen, I'll have the port out. Can make that in 10 minutes.
I.e if they haven't switched from RUU to something new...
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Good sir you are why im buying this device. Thank you very much
Does the digitizer make porting Honeycomb more difficult (i.e., because it's not designed for styluses)? I'm on the fence about the Flyer, but developer support would be a huge plus.
+1 for honeycomb development.
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Does the digitizer make porting Honeycomb more difficult (i.e., because it's not designed for styluses)? I'm on the fence about the Flyer, but developer support would be a huge plus.
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I feel the same way although I'm 99% sure ill get it anyway. I don't see the point in 10" tablets. If I was going to carry a bulky device, I'd sooner take my laptop as its far more useful and weighs abt the same as the 10" tablets.
Have used the Galaxy Tab for a few months now and its the form factor which makes is useful to me - will fit in your pocket if you really need a free hand.
My only other concern is performance. With the majority of honeycomb tablets sporting the Tegra 2 chipset, does this mean apps will be designed with those specs in mind? Anyone know how the flyers Qualcom CPU?
Why want to port a buggy honeycomb if around 3 months later (Juni or July) there will be a official 3.0
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Why want to port a buggy honeycomb if around 3 months later (Juni or July) there will be a official 3.0
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No offense intended, but your question comes across ass a little troll-ish. Assuming you genuinely want an answer though:
1) Because apps for 3.0 are designed for tablet form-factor. If you have used any of the 2.x (or even earlier) tablets, you will know that many apps look horrible because they are either scaled up to full screen, or only appear as a 'small box' in the middle of the screen.
2) I love XDA - the Devs here are top-notch and I never have issues running early versions of the ROMs that are cooked up by XDA devs. The releases here are always way ahead of the manufacturer releases and that's kind of the whole point of the site. It lets DEVs get familiar with new platforms so that when oficial releases come out, they can be quickly ported to the 'official' build when HTC get around to releasing it.
3) Never hold your breath waiting for manufacturers to release updates. HTC are relatively quick to release updates compared to most manufacturers, but waiting for official updates can lead to pain and disappointment.
I was wondering this as well, but more in a general sense. I got an ipad from my work for winning a contest, I played with it, and I can't stand apple crap. So I'm going to sell it, looks like I can get about $450 for it on ebay. So I wanted to take that money and get a android tablet, and I was thinking I would wait for the honeycomb tabs to come out and come down in price a little. But then I thought why do that?? Especially since i'm running gingerbread on my Evo and it runs freaking awesome!
So any worries hardware or other with buying a froyo tab and rooting it and getting a honeycomb rom later? Any min specs one should look for etc..? I know it's slightly off topic sorry, but not really sure where I should post this
Thanks!!!
Do a little research next time, it WILL be released with Honeycomb. I can't post the link cause I don't have more then 8 posts, but if you google it, HTC tweeted that it will be released with 3.0.
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Do a little research next time, it WILL be released with Honeycomb. I can't post the link cause I don't have more then 8 posts, but if you google it, HTC tweeted that it will be released with 3.0.
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WTF?? What do you mean "IT will be released with honeycomb"? What is "IT"?? exactly?
anyways that post is old I bought a gtab
http://twitter.com/htc/status/48806237156016128
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Gotcha thanks, makes more sense now, but if you read my original post you'll see that I don't have an htc tablet and that it was just a general question
But if you port it you will lose the gaming experience app forgot the real name and HTC said they are going to update 2 honeycomb
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faddys123 said:
But if you port it you will lose the gaming experience app forgot the real name and HTC said they are going to update 2 honeycomb
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Yea, but you have to pay to use OnLive. I don`t think many people are going to bother with it.
couto607 said:
Yea, but you have to pay to use OnLive. I don`t think many people are going to bother with it.
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And seems people's 3g plan can't hold the bandwidth for a few hours per month...
Hd2 desire s build xda app.
faddys123 said:
But if you port it you will lose the gaming experience app forgot the real name and HTC said they are going to update 2 honeycomb
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didnt google say there licencing wont allow 2.x products to upgrade to honeycomb?
maxtcee said:
didnt google say there licencing wont allow 2.x products to upgrade to honeycomb?
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Unless given express permission by mr Google, and the flyer/evo tablet got the green light
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Unless given express permission by mr Google, and the flyer/evo tablet got the green light
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Yeah, now all they need is the source. Can't understand why Google would hold back the source from HTC but...
@htc
HTC
@Geekhangover We will be offering a Honeycomb upgrade when it’s made available. What feature are you most excited about?
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Stalte said:
Honestly I think HTC is shorting us by not giving us 3.0 so the only reason I'm going to get this is we can port 3.0 to it. So what are the odds? How hard is going to be?
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Before u spend ur money. You should know that the has no RUU released. And any system posted of the xoom that's not the WiFi version moto keeps having the links removed. And to top it all off the system dump can not be deodexed. I have even tried myself. The only version of 3.0 that can be ported is SDK and nothing works on it... T-Mobile will be releasing an honeycomb tab but know Google it will be locked too... And its not HTC's falt honeycomb will never meet sense. Google will not allow any overlays of any kind of honeycomb. That means no blur or sense...
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Has anyone made this switch? I currently have a stock HTC Incredible. I had custom ROMs on it but went back to stock and stayed there. I love the Fascinate hardware just not the stock software. I was thinking of picking one up and flashing the new Community ROM. How does the Community ROM compare to stock Sense on the Incredible? (if anyone has made the switch themselves)
-I need it to work with an Exchange email account
-Google Navigation/GPS to work flawlessly
Should I just stick with the Incredible? Or would the Community ROM work for me?
Over all the experience will be simpler and less cluttered without sense. My phone is super fast and smooth with the comrom. My gps works great. The only problem for you will be the lack of htc sync. Other than that everything will be an improvement especially the screen.
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I just made the same switch a few weeks ago. The 2 things I miss about the dinc are CM7 nightlies and the ease of flashing (no odin, recovery/radio confusion, etc). I'm loving the superior processor, gpu, and screen on the fascinate. I'd say go for it. Get a case though. This thing is a wet bar of soap.
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Thanks guys. The worst thing that would happen is I don't like it and just go back to the Incredible. So does the community ROM work well with exchange accounts?
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My vote would be to stick with your INC and go to cyanogenmod 7. Its a great rom.
Then get one of the next-gen phones launching at year's end with 4G.
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Thanks guys. The worst thing that would happen is I don't like it and just go back to the Incredible. So does the community ROM work well with exchange accounts?
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Com Rom works flawlessly with Exchange email.
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My vote would be to stick with your INC and go to cyanogenmod 7. Its a great rom.
Then get one of the next-gen phones launching at year's end with 4G.
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I actually was on CM7 for a bit but prefer stock Sense over it. I just really want a 4 inch screen and that Super AMOLED. But I will probably just tough it out. I want a new phone but don't want to waste the upgrade on the Incredible 2. I've had my Incredible a year now, that's too long
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I actually was on CM7 for a bit but prefer stock Sense over it. I just really want a 4 inch screen and that Super AMOLED. But I will probably just tough it out. I want a new phone but don't want to waste the upgrade on the Incredible 2. I've had my Incredible a year now, that's too long
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A very smart move indeed. The fascinate is quite impressive but in my opinion is past its prime with the way technology is moving. We are on the event horizon of the SGSII and the Droid Charge is a small step up from our phone.
Hold out till we hear news of the iteration of the SGSII Verizon will be getting before you make a choice. If we get the actual SGSII I will be jumping ship for it just for the support and hardware.
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A very smart move indeed. The fascinate is quite impressive but in my opinion is past its prime with the way technology is moving. We are on the event horizon of the SGSII and the Droid Charge is a small step up from our phone.
Hold out till we hear news of the iteration of the SGSII Verizon will be getting before you make a choice. If we get the actual SGSII I will be jumping ship for it just for the support and hardware.
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Yeah, I always intended to get the SGS2 but who knows if/when that will be here especially for Verizon. Just wanted something to tide me over. Even though the Incredible is a great phone I get bored of my phones so quickly.
Hopefully the SGS2 comes by September but I won't hold my breath.
I made the switch a week ago, though I still have my incredible in case I want to go back. The main reason I bought the fascinate was for the super amoled 4 inch screen and it just officially got 2.2. Very nice phone and it was kind of cool learning the rooting process all over again. Its definitely not as easy as the incredible, especially since I can't use rom manager with it but its not like its that bad. I am a rom whore though so that much I do miss about the incredible.I'm basically jumping back and forth from community and evil roms. I use different kernels and undervolting to occupy my time.
I got mine for 200 on craigslist in perfect condition with a case and screen protectors. I wouldn't pay more since it seems it will soon be fazed out like the inc and the development isn't as strong as htc, though I wish it was. I don't mean that as the devs are bad, just not as many. The fascinate seems to have absorbed alt of the great devs from the eris.
As far as those things you need working, I don't use them so i can't help you there. sorry.
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If your thinking about changing from the photon to the epic 4g touch. I wouldnt switch and the reason i say dont switch is because i have a history with samsung i have had the captivate,droid charge, revolution,tab, infuse which is enough to know about them. And with motorola i had a droid 1, droid 2 and droid 3, droid x and x2,xoom and photon. And i can honestly that motorola hands down makes the better product alot of people i know buy into what the reviewers say about the device and not make our own judgement. On samsung i found myself rooting it and the installing a lagfix with motorola i root and setcpu and its good. Also the build quality with way different motorola has them beat in that department. I mean that plastic with samsung is not got one drop and its bad yea its thin but ur paying the price for it with build quality. All im saying is put motorola phones next to samsung and u will c a major difference. And as for as those speed tests go thats all good that u get a highscore and all but the photon is a beast of a phone. Dont b easy fooled cause the epic is new on the block. Also the screen on the photon is amazing.
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Also when i had the infuse my signal was in and out all the time and yes it was att but when i put my sim in my dell streak i didnt have that problem
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Where is all the support
I have been debating back and forth and which phone to keep... The Photon is a great phone but it seems like there has only been crickets in the dev section. I look at the SGS2 dev section and there is tons of things going on. I love android because I find it fun playing with the phones, changing ROMS and everything else.. But it seems like there are not a lot of devs interested in this phone, and honestly I don't have enough time to learn how to be a dev, I just follow the instructions.. I guess we will see... oh and GO PACKERS.
I've had both MORE Samsungs and more Motos than what you have listed.
I cannot find the truth in your post
When work gave me a Moto Nextel i950 I had a Samsung a680.
When work gave me a Moto Razr I had a Samsung Blade.
And on and on and on.....
Everyone says some BS about Samsungs flimsy build.....I don't see it....I've NEVER seen it.
My Samsung Vibrant was built NO DIFFERENT in quality to this Photon.....BOTH have cheesy plastic backs.
HTC has cheesy plastic backs.
LG has cheesy plastic backs.
Huawei has cheesy plastic backs.
Christ get over it already.
I'm dropping this Photon POS due to the LOCKED bootloader.
At least with Samsung I can flash and tweak to my hearts content.
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I've had both MORE Samsungs and more Motos than what you have listed.
I cannot find the truth in your post
When work gave me a Moto Nextel i950 I had a Samsung a680.
When work gave me a Moto Razr I had a Samsung Blade.
And on and on and on.....
Everyone says some BS about Samsungs flimsy build.....I don't see it....I've NEVER seen it.
My Samsung Vibrant was built NO DIFFERENT in quality to this Photon.....BOTH have cheesy plastic backs.
HTC has cheesy plastic backs.
LG has cheesy plastic backs.
Huawei has cheesy plastic backs.
Christ get over it already.
I'm dropping this Photon POS due to the LOCKED bootloader.
At least with Samsung I can flash and tweak to my hearts content.
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Locked bootloader? Mine is unlocked.
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I wont be jumping into anything, I'll wait this one out and see what happens. I too wish there was more going on in the dev section bit I'm not willing to give up my great battery life, signal and GPS until Sammy is proven good.
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You sir seem to have something stuck up your you know what. They arent talking about the plastic backs, theyre talking about the fact that Samsung in general has issues with overheating, low signal, shotty GPS, random battery drains, and an overall flimsy structure. You also don't seem to be doing any research, as the bootloader is unlocked on the Photon now.
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I have an epic, and this is all true.
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Not to mention...Samsung is also very slow on updates. The Epic is still on 2.2 while the almost all of Motorola phones has been or will be updated to 2.3.
With Ice cream sandwich right around the corner, I'm just not so sure I want to exchange my Photon for the Epic Touch.
@n2ishun u talking about phones that dont count we r talking about android and i had more phones than that but im not talking about flip phones and messaging phones im talking about more updated phones anybody that really into phones know whats up i got the epic right now and the droid 3 and photon motorola has a better build quality call quality.
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Meh.... Bootloader unlocked without 4G may as well be locked at this point. Moto is killing this phone sitting on their thumbs with no official bootloader unlock.
I went from a Samsung vibrant to the photon. For the most part I loved the vibrant. My phone before that was a nexus one. Their is a noticeable difference in build quality. I prefer htc and Motorola over Samsung. Yeah the new epic touch 4 g is ultra thin but will it last two years? I plan on keeping my photon till my two year contact is up. Also getting updates was a pain with Samsung. They doing do ota updates, but you have to install it from a PC and go thru this whole process thats a pain.
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After messing with the Samsung infuse I changed my mind about swhiching. The screen is way to big and with only a 800 x 480 resolution it fails. Sprint should of just kept it at 4.3 inches which I think is the sweet spot for phones.
All that is well and good but I had a Photon, upgraded to MR5, had all the tips and tricks and I STILL had NO AUDIO on calls. Is it too much to ask that I have audio on a call that by all indications has gone through? If I can make and receive calls on the Samsung then that's the phone for me.
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I feel like we've been through this with you before. It was your fault for not exchanging a defective device, so you have no leg to stand on coming back to this forum trying to bash the photon.
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Not to mention...Samsung is also very slow on updates. The Epic is still on 2.2 while the almost all of Motorola phones has been or will be updated to 2.3.
With Ice cream sandwich right around the corner, I'm just not so sure I want to exchange my Photon for the Epic Touch.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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shawn328 said:
Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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Nexus phones and "phones they own" are a bit different.
I was really annoyed at the lack of development for a while but then I thought back to my evo which really needed it to keep up, and the epic were anything other than bone stock had stupid connectivity issues. I've rooted my mopho to restore apps and that's it. It just works outside the box. if I really feel like getting squirrley I might look to remove the bloat with root explorer. But ive gotten amazing battery life, awesome performance, great signal and call quality. Really im only missing the dev from my old flash junkie ways not that the phone needs it.
Basically if yall want to leave then GTFO and stop posting, if you want to stay let them GTFO and enjoy your amazing phone. I doubt it will be all too soon that this phone becomes too underspecced to run our favorite apps.
If you are having issues and haven't screwed with removing system apps and have tried removing all installed apps and putting them back on one at a time bring your phone back it probably was a bad build. Its really not that hard people, the vast majority love how this phone functions, the fact that I can see it in full sunlight is awesome.
If you want better benchmarks go get the GSII and pray to whatever God you believe in that the hardware is compatible enough to make use of all of those devs already there otherwise it could be an EPIC fiasco all over again. Base your opinions on the here and now, not some future potential that may or may not be achieved later. Just don't come back and complain about reception/gloat about some number on a benchmark let us happy MoPhoers be.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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/agree. =) can't wait for ice cream sandwich.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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Oooo! I didn't even think of that. Good point. I hope this actually happens (getting excited, cannot contain myself!!!) lol
The only thing I wish this phone had were toggles on the notification pull down menu. Those are so nice on Sammy and HTC. I've tried some of the apps that do this, but they all tell me my phone doesn't support multiple toggles on a single widget. If someone could figure out a way to do this, I would forget all about the e4gt.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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I wouldn't expect that to be of much benefit to a phone that is already on the market though. I'm looking forward to an amazing Android moto, yes, but I dont expect the photon to become that device.
On the Samsungs again, they don't get updated, they get released partially functional and then ditched. Some of you are talking about ice cream sandwich now? Epics froyo update was painfully late. We still can't get a full-featured GB. Our front camera only works sideways in video chat. And our TV output is blocked. Bring into this everything that was already mentioned about overheating, poor signal, shoddy GPS, and random battery drains. It would take a lot of convincing to get me to buy another one.
I'm totally digging this photon thing, but looking g forward to what's next from motogoogle.
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Hello All,
Wanted to post about the process I went through that eventually landed me on The One. I read everything I could for the last three months about the two phones and wound up more confused then decided on which to upgrade to. I finally decided that I need to S**t or get off the pot, so I went with the S4 because:
1) I read more positive reviews about it's camera then the One's, and for me the smartphone is a Camera that I can make calls on, not the other way around.
2) I had never owned a Samsung phone and I wanted to check it out.
3) I was worried about the lack of updates from HTC when I had the Rezound. Though I am a member of Elevate, updates have been my biggest gripe with HTC and I didn't want to get stuck with another unsupported phone.
4) lack of SD card and removable battery on the One. Not deal breakers, but factors.
So, my wife, son and I got out hiking on Saturday and I took about 60 shots on the S4. They looked great on the phone, but TERRIBLE on the PC. I had hiked in the same park last year about the same time with my son and had taken a lot of the same shots on my Rezound so I found those and compared them...The Rezound shots were much better in many instances. So I decided to take the Rezound and S4 and make the settings the same. I then took about 35 comparison shots. Almost half the time, the Rezound shots were better. That really irritated me so I searched the web for comparison images (S4 & the One) and most of the time they were so close it didn't matter.
I had bought the One through Verizon's Edge program. I know it's not the smartest thing I ever did, but I did it and I'm cool with it. They exchanged the S4 for the One and I feel pretty good about it. If I want I can move up in a year to whatever is the hottest thing at that point. I lost my unlimited, but on my phone only and they gave me 6 gigs for the same cost of my unlimited. I've never gone over six gigs before, and I can tweak my usage a little so I never have to worry about that. Besides, my wife still has her unlimited and I can switch with her if I really miss it.
As soon as I made a call with the One, I knew it was the right choice. I'm glad I tried the S4 but I really didn't like it. It just didn't measure up in so many ways. TouchWiz is so cartoonish, I felt like I should be sitting at the kids table! The screen was awesome! But so is the One's, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything there.
I figured I would share the Experience here in the Rezound forum because it played such a big part in my deciding the S4 wasn't for me!
Peace People!
thanks for your take on the two phones. I am considering the S4 above the One right now coming from a Rezound currently. I would like to know more about pros/cons of both and decide then. Hearing about the picture quality of the S4 might be problematic, but I'd have to see other cases of the same problem to be convinced myself. Have you compared your S4 photos with those of others who have an S4 to see if they have the same problem?
When I was at the Verizon store they had a one and a s4 next to each other so it was easy to compare. I took photos on both and the one looked crisper and clearer. I don't know if its because I am use to sense but it felt smoother than touchwiz. Plus I like the feel of the one in my hand. I missed how the original moto droid felt in my hand from its all metal body. The s4 just didn't wow me and disappointed me in others. I am sure its a good phone but not for me. If you think HTC is weak in updates for their phone Samsung is far worse. Droid charge got like a few updates and that's it. Where as the thunderbolt went from froyo to GB to ICS. Sure it took awhile to get to ICS but at least it did get it. Sammy seems to just drop all support and just build a new phone knowing people will do the iphone effect of selling their old device for the new one.
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Yeah, I love the way it feels too! I really didn't want to buy the S4 based on the in store comparison, but I was trusting reviews because I shoot a lot of nature and I couldn't simulate that in store. After using the One for a week, it is every bit as good as the S4 Camera wise and blows it away in almost every other respect... So glad I switched!
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Yeah, I love the way it feels too! I really didn't want to buy the S4 based on the in store comparison, but I was trusting reviews because I shoot a lot of nature and I couldn't simulate that in store. After using the One for a week, it is every bit as good as the S4 Camera wise and blows it away in almost every other respect... So glad I switched!
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If you're into shooting nature or anything that moves really, play with Zoe on your one, you'll probably end up loving it.
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Khayos said:
If you're into shooting nature or anything that moves really, play with Zoe on your one, you'll probably end up loving it.
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I've dabbled some with it...Need to do more...Fun feature, especially for my son!
Thanks for the review, there's one thing holding up getting the One for me though, no unlockable bootloader.
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Thanks for the review, there's one thing holding up getting the One for me though, no unlockable bootloader.
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Read around the Verizon HTC one forum, you will see someone found a way to S-Off. Better than bootloader unlock.
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Uzephi said:
Read around the Verizon HTC one forum, you will see someone found a way to S-Off. Better than bootloader unlock.
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I have, it requires a java card. It's either shell out the money for one or pay/beg/get a favor from someone who has one.
I decided that I love the phone even if it is never rooted, but I trust it will be... These guys are good!
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I'm actually probably going with the S3 or S4. HTC One seems to be harder to find deals for with my credit. S3's are only $100 now, so this college student may snap at that.
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And my One is now S-off! So glad I went this way... But the truth is that I am still thrilled with the stock experience. I have roms waiting to be flashed, but I just don't want to!
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And my One is now S-off! So glad I went this way... But the truth is that I am still thrilled with the stock experience. I have roms waiting to be flashed, but I just don't want to!
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What about the stock experience thrills you compared to original android?
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What about the stock experience thrills you compared to original android?
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The simplest answer is that it works so well...It's lightning quick already, so I don't need mods to eliminate lag. Everything does what is supposed to.
But the truth about flashing other Roms is that there is almost always some buggy element. I have only run a handful in three years that didn't. I rooted both my Incredible and Rezound because there were features out there that I couldn't get on those phones.I have everything I could want on the Stock One.
If I had a Nexus device, I would enjoy that experience, but I also would miss the TV app in Sense 5 and believe it or not, I am having a blast with Zoe and some of the other features of the Sense 5 Camera. It would require too many trade offs to go to Stock Android.
Having said that, I am a flashaholic, and I have flashed one Rom since the previous post. Frankly, battery wasn't as good, and the 4g signal wasn't consistent. And that was a Rom that was very close to Stock. I know I could reflash and do other things that might fix it, or I could just go back to Stock, which I did... I'll flash other Roms, my curiosity is too strong not to, but it's great to know that Stock is so rock solid to come back to!
How's the camera compared to rezound? Also how is the scrolling lag compared to the iPhone?
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Lag? I know naught of you speak? Seriously, I don't have an iPhone so I can't compare it, but this thing blows my old Rezound out of the water, and it is every bit as fast as the S4 was.
As for the Camera, I love it. It does some things better then the Rezound (low light) and I have been able to crop with no problems. There's a learning curve but it didn't take long. I even have that purplish tint at times, but changing the iso usually makes it go away...
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