I am wanting to use my Evo View 4g as my primary device (phone calls, text, everything etc) and sell my smart phone. I see that line 2 has a $10/month charge and my buddy uses it with his ipad2 and it works pretty well. I saw grooveip as another option and just wanted some thoughts and/or ideas on one or both. I would also like to use a BT headset with this setup if possible and carry the view 4g in my pocket. Anybody who can give me some insight on which service they would recommend and why, I would very much appreciate it!
Thank you!
Ben
I''m using GrooveIP with my Flyer. It's free over goggle voice and seems to work quite well most of the time. Has a lot of options to play with to improve voice quality, depending on your Mic setup (speaker, headset, etc.) I use it as speaker phone with the built-in mic. Works pretty good.
Why is it with Ip Groove the bluetooth wont work but there is an option for using bluetooth?
I use grooveip and I love it but where I work my 3g signal sucks (thanks Sprint) so I think I'm going to have to get a regular phone and I so hate that I can't use bluetooth.
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I got a Photon 4g, and I wanna know if there's anyway I can have simultaneous voice/data on 3G, I know its possible over "4G" (Wimax), and I really don't wanna buy a new phone outright. Will SVDO work on the Photon anywhere?
DiamondJay20 said:
I got a Photon 4g, and I wanna know if there's anyway I can have simultaneous voice/data on 3G, I know its possible over "4G" (Wimax), and I really don't wanna buy a new phone outright. Will SVDO work on the Photon anywhere?
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To my knowledge this is not possible. Would be hella useful though.
only way is if "voice" if via VOIP such as google voice, skype or SIP provider.
I do it all day! WiFi and I talk and di email and FB! L
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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Smartphones have so many features nowadays that it is honestly difficult for any given person to make use of every one of them. Hence, there are some features that are diamonds to some and useless to others. Just because you in particular don't have a use for said feature, it can be be extremely useful to someone else. For instance, my girlfriend now lives a good 150 miles away. So a lot of our casual conversations are done for long periods of time over our phones. Should I be focusing on our conversation? Sure. Do I also wanna check xda, read an article with her to keep the conversation rolling, maybe watch a funny YouTube clip or something? Definitely. My point is, its not a feature that is visibly useless for everyone. You just don't have a use for it.
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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you might have an email, or be in your car using it as the GPS with the phone on speaker or bluetooth, or wanna check an email you're talking to someone about, etc. A lotta times, when I've been on the internet with the Photon, I've missed calls, and that includes using my Strava cycling app, which simply maps where I'm going.
Calls/texts will interrupt downloads which is annoying when trying to download large files over 3g
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As others have mentioned, if you have VoIP service independently of Sprint, there's nothing to stop you from using it on your phone. You can do a complete end-run around Sprint and cobble your own adhoc SVDO-ish work-around today. Your battery life will totally suck, and you'll be paying more money for VoIP from some thirdparty provider, but you can do it. Just run the client, forward your calls to your VoIP number, and you're in business.
So, why can't SPRINT do it? Simple. The service we all call "Call Forwarding" is heinously inefficient. It was invented ~25 years ago, and only works for its intended purpose (adhoc forwarding of calls to arbitrary numbers) because there are just a few people using it at any given point in time. If EVERYBODY (or even a large plurality of Android owners) tried doing it at once, Sprint would hit a hard limit beyond which no more users serviced by a given switch could forward calls until somebody else discontinued forwarding to free up a circuit (remember, ESS voice calls are circuit-switched, regardless of any packet-switched magic that might occur at the backhaul and trunk level. You'd be amazed how much metaphorical WD-40 and duct tape still gets used behind the scenes at Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile to glue 21st-century wireless and 19th-century wired phone circuits together & make wireless calls look like landline calls to the PSTN).
To implement large-scale SVDO that's cost-effective, scalable, and sustainable, Sprint has to make much bigger changes that involve their switches (enabling them to terminate calls directly to VoIP instead of relying on adhoc ESS-type call forwarding) and signaling (sending notifications via the same mechanism used now to notify the phone of incoming calls, deliver text messages, and carry Google & Apple's push notifications). That way, instead of forcing your phone to establish and maintain an EVDO or LTE connection 24/7 and use it to poll for incoming calls, it can still use the more power-efficient 1x method, and simply notify the onboard VoIP app that there's an incoming call when it happens.
At the end of the day, it's one of those cases where it's easy for nimble, tech-savvy, and highly-motivated individuals willing to spend a few days learning and experimenting to take matters into their own hands and hack something into working for themselves, but it's a much bigger job to make it viable for the unwashed masses who want it to "just work" transparently without disclaimers, gotchas, and devastated battery life. It's the same reason why iPhones don't have wimax on Sprint. Apple point blank refused to even consider implementing something where users have to toggle it manually and be aware of their connectivity options at all times to really make it work right. Think I'm kidding? Find a nontechnical Sprint customer with wimax-capable phone, and check out their 4G settings. 95 times out of 100, they'll have 4G disabled, even in cities where there's been 4G service for more than a year. They went to the Sprint store, complained about not being able to "surf the web" (WE know their phone was probably thrashing back and forth between 3G and 4G & kept spending 5-20 seconds at a time in "no network connection" limbo), the employee toggled 4G off, handed the phone back to them, and they never had any clue what the employee actually DID. They were just happy that their phone quit endlessly saying they had no internet connection. ;-)
Looking around here, i see that plenty of people have more then one phone.
But i don't see any way to make them work together.
How possible would it be to make them connect with wifi / bluetooth?
Have them both ring when a phone-call comes in and make it not matter which you pick up?
Stay connected to the internet on both phones when one loses signal? (living on the border between Belgium and the Netherlands, when one has internet, the other one probably doesn't)
Share audio with 1 Bluetooth headset?
Do you know a way to make any of these happen?
Azeazezar said:
Looking around here, i see that plenty of people have more then one phone.
But i don't see any way to make them work together.
How possible would it be to make them connect with wifi / bluetooth?
Have them both ring when a phone-call comes in and make it not matter which you pick up?
Stay connected to the internet on both phones when one loses signal? (living on the border between Belgium and the Netherlands, when one has internet, the other one probably doesn't)
Share audio with 1 Bluetooth headset?
Do you know a way to make any of these happen?
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You could pair the two devices together using Bluetooth but that would be for transferring files and other stuff I suppose. I don't think it's possible to have them both ring when a phone-call comes in and have it not matter which phone you answer. To get internet on both phones most people tether phone A's internet connection and create a wireless hotspot and then connect phone B to the hotspot. But if one looses signal then other one would loose internet signal as well, if there is no signal in an area there is no signal, and both devices will be without service. And what do you mean by share audio with 1 Bluetooth headset? You could pair both devices with the same Bluetooth headset if that's what your talking about (For example phone A is paired with Bluetooth headset A and phone B is paired with Bluetooth headset A also).
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You could pair the two devices together using Bluetooth but that would be for transferring files and other stuff I suppose. I don't think it's possible to have them both ring when a phone-call comes in and have it not matter which phone you answer. To get internet on both phones most people tether phone A's internet connection and create a wireless hotspot and then connect phone B to the hotspot. But if one looses signal then other one would loose internet signal as well, if there is no signal in an area there is no signal, and both devices will be without service. And what do you mean by share audio with 1 Bluetooth headset? You could pair both devices with the same Bluetooth headset if that's what your talking about (For example phone A is paired with Bluetooth headset A and phone B is paired with Bluetooth headset A also).
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The problem is that i live on the border between 2 country's, so if i'm in Belgium, i have to set my Belgian phone to tether wifi, my dutch phone to connect to it, and a few hours later il be in the Netherlands and i need to tether my Belgian phone to my dutch one. If i forget to disconnect it, and i leave the country, both phones will not have internet. Then i am home, and i have to select my home wifi. I cross the border 2 or 4 times a day. Doing it manually is a pain.
Both my phones are paired to my headset, but that old thing only connects with one phone at the time.could fix it by buying a new one. But i like the sound of the one i have now.
But correct my if i'm wrong, but the hardware should be capable of much better cooperation between phones. I just can't find software to do stuff. is there any?
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The problem is that i live on the border between 2 country's, so if i'm in Belgium, i have to set my Belgian phone to tether wifi, my dutch phone to connect to it, and a few hours later il be in the Netherlands and i need to tether my Belgian phone to my dutch one. If i forget to disconnect it, and i leave the country, both phones will not have internet. Then i am home, and i have to select my home wifi. I cross the border 2 or 4 times a day. Doing it manually is a pain.
Both my phones are paired to my headset, but that old thing only connects with one phone at the time.could fix it by buying a new one. But i like the sound of the one i have now.
But correct my if i'm wrong, but the hardware should be capable of much better cooperation between phones. I just can't find software to do stuff. is there any?
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I'm not sure about the data issue but you could use Google voice and set that up to ring both phones...
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0dBu said:
I'm not sure about the data issue but you could use Google voice and set that up to ring both phones...
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Google voice is not available in europe.
Azeazezar said:
Google voice is not available in europe.
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If you need it badly u could use VPN
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If you need it badly u could use VPN
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That wouldn't work. I would have to give all my friends and contacts a US phone number.They wouldn't ever call me.
But i did figure out a way to properly share internet. Tasker!
While (not roaming) and (not at home(check with gps? Bluetooth of computer in range? certain cell tower? other?)) and (other phone nearby (check with Bluetooth)) tether internet.
Else, connect to wifi.
I guess i have some scripting to do and i should buy a new headset. That way i can answer both phones with the same Bluetooth headset, and share internet.
What is more battery efficient? Bluetooth or WiFi tethering?
Hey guys I'm a pretty new member but I want to save on my phone bills by using a flextab from bell on my sg3 and I like Dell voice because you can port your number. Anyone find the voice calls over cellular networks absolutely horrible compared to wifi? I was wondering if there's a fix for this or somehow a way to make my phone think it's on wifi even though it isnt; if that would even help.
Thanks!
By the way I'm in Canada so Google voice isn't an option for me
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Hey guys I'm a pretty new member but I want to save on my phone bills by using a flextab from bell on my sg3 and I like Dell voice because you can port your number. Anyone find the voice calls over cellular networks absolutely horrible compared to wifi? I was wondering if there's a fix for this or somehow a way to make my phone think it's on wifi even though it isnt; if that would even help.
Thanks!
By the way I'm in Canada so Google voice isn't an option for me
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What version are you using currently? They seem to have released a new version that says it has better call quality. I have an SIII on Rogers and the quality is pretty good with the new update. It uses about 32kbps up and 32 kbps down so any decent 3G connection should be able to handle the calls. What is bad about the voice?
Also, since you are using Bell you have no EDGE fall back option, which it doesn't work very well on. Where I live, all I get reliably is EDGE so I have to rely on my WiFi for calling. When I'm in the city though I have had some long conversations without too much issue.
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What version are you using currently? They seem to have released a new version that says it has better call quality. I have an SIII on Rogers and the quality is pretty good with the new update. It uses about 32kbps up and 32 kbps down so any decent 3G connection should be able to handle the calls. What is bad about the voice?
Also, since you are using Bell you have no EDGE fall back option, which it doesn't work very well on. Where I live, all I get reliably is EDGE so I have to rely on my WiFi for calling. When I'm in the city though I have had some long conversations without too much issue.
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Thanks I did the know that! Maybe I should try getting the Rogers flex plan but I heard that it won't work on cellphones.
Curious what you guys feel the best VOIP method/app is for free calls to other phones is. I don't want to include solutions that require both parties to have the same app installed, so only VOIP that allows you to call phone numbers.
All I personally know about is GrooveIP and Talkatone.
I'd like whatever gives the best overall call quality over 3G, and when on WiFi, hopefully sounding like a perfect call.
I appreciate any input. Thanks all!
Any input at all, guys? VOIP can be very handy at times, even with unlimited talk. I have a friend in the NY area who cannot get signal due to towers being down, but his wifi a home works fine. He used Talkatone with some success, but I'm wondering what out there is better.
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Any input at all, guys? VOIP can be very handy at times, even with unlimited talk. I have a friend in the NY area who cannot get signal due to towers being down, but his wifi a home works fine. He used Talkatone with some success, but I'm wondering what out there is better.
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I use Google Voice (GV) for most of my VOIP communcations, and even have my home phone linked to GV via an Obihai OBI100 adapter, which costs about $40 one time on Amazon. So far, calls to the US and Canada have been free, but that gets updated by Google on annual basis. I don't think anyone knows for sure yet that those calls will continue to be free in 2013, but here's an Obihai forum thread discussing that and the concensus seems to be that they will. I can't understand why people pay $25-$40 per month for a VOIP service like Vonage when they can get the same thing for a $40 one time cost, but I guess ignorance is bliss.
On my phone I use Groove IP (paid) when I want to make phone calls over Wi-Fi, mostly with my backup phone which is not currently activated, and it works very well as a front-end to GV. I use Skype too, but unless it's a Skype-to-Skype call I've found the GV connections to be higher audio quality.
Here's a pretty good article on VOIP alternatives for Android devices.
ramjet73
Yes. Keep all my old android phones around as wifi only house phones with 2 apps. Google Voice and Groove IP
Basically i own the One X+ on ATT here in the states and my wife owns the new iPhone 5. We have both never done video calling before so new to this. Just want your guys' input in what app is best for our two phones to video call each other over both 4g/3g network and wifi. We only have wifi at home so on the go would be using mainly 4g as we luckily live in an area where 4g is everywhere.
I've tried Tango but even with 4 bars on 4g network the video quality was kind of crappy and choppy. We were even just 10ft away from one another to try it out and still choppy, not very clear video calling.
Basically what's the best app for quality in the video call over 4g and wifi? I would assume all apps would work great over a good wifi connection but we are on the go a lot so will depend more on 4g connectivity over the ATT network.
Haven't tried the famous Skype app yet as the best reviews doing research all point to Tango. Just not impressed at all with the Tango video quality over Skype.
If it helps my device is rooted and running Elegancia custom rom. My wife is stock iPhone software.
Skype,tango,gtalk,Google plus
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same situation
my fiancee has the iphone 5 and i have the hox+. we use skype, and it does just fine. it seems to work a little better on my end than the iphone end.
OoVoO
I use OoVoO
It's free app and also works great with 3G or 4G also
And it has desktop software too
so you can call on computer also (Just like Skype) .... isn't it great.....