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I had the Evo and the camcorder and camera quality was terrible. They advertise 8MP camera and 720P video, but if you compare the pictures and video to an Iphone4 you'll see it's no where near the quality for clarity, sound quality, low light, etc. I've been scouring the net looking for tests of the Thunderbolt camera/camcorder and cannot find anything. I suspect that it is exactly the same as the Evo's. Anyone have any details?
What makes the iPhone better isn't the camera, its the hdr effect
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What makes the iPhone better isn't the camera, its the hdr effect
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Nah, I have the iPhone4 and before the update that added HDR (which stores both versions of pictures so you can compare) it was better than my EVO, especially the video. I'm probably going to be picking up the Thunderbolt so this is a curiosity for me as well, though it's not a dealbreaker.
I have been asking myself this very question.
I'm kind of expecting the quality to be very similar, if not the same, as the Inspire 4G.
Both phones are very similar (in hardware design anyway) and are being released fairly close to one another.
I've actually seen a few videos floating around on youtube and I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with the quality of the video that the Inspire takes compared to my Dinc.
Having said that, the audio still needs some work, but I don't think that the Inspire has a noise canceling mic like the Thunderbolt has so I'm really hoping that the sound is much better on the Thunderbolt.
Only time will tell.
Hey is the atrix's camera better than the iphone 4's?
I've read many reviews, and it looks like the atrix 4g's camera is just average.
This is kind of depressing , considering I wanted a phone with a nice camera.
I would ssay the camera is alright, but I saw some comparison pictures today that showed they weren't as good as the iPhone 4's pics.
Of course things like for and saturation can be fixed with a little light edititjng, but who wants to do that right?
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I would ssay the camera is alright, but I saw some comparison pictures today that showed they weren't as good as the iPhone 4's pics.
Of course things like for and saturation can be fixed with a little light edititjng, but who wants to do that right?
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how far off from the iphone's camera is it? I guess I could just use picsay pro to fill in the missing holes. =/
the camera seems garbage by looking at the pictures in the engadget review. pictures look purple/blue. reminds me of the nokia e71
franciscojavierleon said:
the camera seems garbage by looking at the pictures in the engadget review. pictures look purple/blue. reminds me of the nokia e71
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franciscojavierleon said:
the camera seems garbage by looking at the pictures in the engadget review. pictures look purple/blue. reminds me of the nokia e71
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Definitely a purple bluish tint. Although that does suck, I will have my Captivate as a backup.
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In my experience with the HTC EVO, the auto white-balance in Android, in a word, blows. However, selecting the white-balance for the situation at hand works great.
Comparing the Atrix 4g camera to the iphone 4 camera? To a phone that took how many years to even get a decent camera? And sadly, with as many co-workers of mine who have the iphone 4, I can tell you that it's camera ain't that great. The iphone 4 finally got a 5mp camera. Wow, so impressive... Score one for apple! Why don't we wait and judge the camera quality in real life.
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Comparing the Atrix 4g camera to the iphone 4 camera? To a phone that took how many years to even get a decent camera? And sadly, with as many co-workers of mine who have the iphone 4, I can tell you that it's camera ain't that great. The iphone 4 finally got a 5mp camera. Wow, so impressive... Score one for apple! Why don't we wait and judge the camera quality in real life.
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Please lay off the myth that more MP=more quality. The quality of a camera is related to the quality and the size of the lens. I couldn't care less if a phone's camera is 3MP as long as it has a good lens. The iphone4's camera has pretty big lens that's the reason the pictures are very nice for a phone.
Sadly the atrix has a crappy camera, but i am hopeful the purple tint can be fixed in a update.
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Comparing the Atrix 4g camera to the iphone 4 camera? To a phone that took how many years to even get a decent camera? And sadly, with as many co-workers of mine who have the iphone 4, I can tell you that it's camera ain't that great. The iphone 4 finally got a 5mp camera. Wow, so impressive... Score one for apple! Why don't we wait and judge the camera quality in real life.
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wow you really are a hater arent you? the iphone 4 camera is actually real good for a camera phone. it's quick to start and takes some pretty good pictures. and ya the atrix 4g is not even out yet; but motorola has been in the camera phone market for years; so they've had even more time than apple to develop a good camera phone. i know your an apple hater; but learn to give credit where it's due; the iphone has many negatives; the camera is not one of them.
I'm just hoping the camera is better than the one I had on my aria.
Cant' remember the last time i thought "you know, that is so awesome i'll take a picture, let me grab my cell phone". None of them take amazing pictures, and if it's worth taking a picture of, i'll grab my real camera.
Cell phone can have the best lens physically possible for that size, and it's still defeated by the dust that collects over it.
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Cant' remember the last time i thought "you know, that is so awesome i'll take a picture, let me grab my cell phone". None of them take amazing pictures, and if it's worth taking a picture of, i'll grab my real camera.
Cell phone can have the best lens physically possible for that size, and it's still defeated by the dust that collects over it.
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your right; no camera phone will take a pic even close to my DSLR; but to be honest with you, the iphone4 takes pics that are good enough if they're just for my computer. the DSLR is bulky and isnt always there when you need it; your phone is usually always with you; so it's nice to have a phone that takes somewhat decent pictures. i remember when i first got my e71 and was so disappointed in the camera; hope the atrix is not the same. but it sure looked similar during engadgets review
Yes it's nice to have for little things, and i use it for that, i'm just saying i've never looked at a cell phone and thought "yes, this will replace my camera"
I'll reserve judgement for when i get mine. Engadget has been proving their incompetence more and more lately, so i put little to no faith in their ability to create fair or accurate tests.
I love having a camera in my pocket at all times but every phone I've ever had has taken disappointing pictures. My touch pro 2 takes alright/almost acceptable shots outside during the day but in low light its not even worth trying. I am looking forward to the led flash on the atrix but I'm sure it will be a while before a phone replaces stand alone cameras for even point and shoot average Joes.
I took this picture a few minutes ago. Let me know what you guys think.
http://plixi.com/p/78972232
And yes, it was with the Atrix.
Eh, for what I use my camera for (pictures at bars, on the beach, videos of people doing stupid ****), I don't need a 12 mp megashooter that can capture the individual pores on your nose. I'm just happy to finally have a flash on my phone.
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I took this picture a few minutes ago. Let me know what you guys think.
http://plixi.com/p/78972232
And yes, it was with the Atrix.
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I don't like that picture......only because I want to be where your at...
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I don't like that picture......only because I want to be where your at...
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Thanks. But I think the camera is really good. Is a very cloudy and gloomy day so thats why it looks a little sad.
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wow you really are a hater arent you? the iphone 4 camera is actually real good for a camera phone. it's quick to start and takes some pretty good pictures. and ya the atrix 4g is not even out yet; but motorola has been in the camera phone market for years; so they've had even more time than apple to develop a good camera phone. i know your an apple hater; but learn to give credit where it's due; the iphone has many negatives; the camera is not one of them.
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Not a hater at all lol. but give credit where credit is due. My nokia n 95 had a terrific camera. My sony k 850 I had an even better camera. My question is this; why is everybody going gaga over the camera in over the camera in the iphone when it took four generations for apple to finally install a halfway decent camera? In reality people should have been booing apple for the 3 phones with lousy cameras.
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Hey,
Just got my atrix today after huge fiasco with att stores. Anyway, so far i love it this thing is blazing fast compared to my captivate and the gps works =).
My one gripe is the camera quality, everything looks washed out almost like there is a film on the camera lense that can't be removed. The same thing applies to when i recieve an mms picture. The quality looks so bad that it's hard to even tell what it is sometimes
Anyone have any workarounds or tips on taking photos?
Yeah, noticed the same thing, especially coming from an iPhone 4, the photo AND video quality on the Atrix look washed out and grainy. Hopefully it would be a software fix.
The only solution so far is just to take photos in the 5MP resolution. the 3MP and Widescreen (which is like 3.?) are horrible.
was just fixing to post how horrible the camera and video quality is compared to the captivate! ughhh... i hope it is fixable via a software tweak this is nasty. like dirty sand
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was just fixing to post how horrible the camera and video quality is compared to the captivate! ughhh... i hope it is fixable via a software tweak this is nasty. like dirty sand
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ahh, dirty sand is exactly how i would describe it
I only take pictures at the 5mp quality and it seems to be fine? : shrug :
can someone post a few test shots?
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Yeah, noticed the same thing, especially coming from an iPhone 4, the photo AND video quality on the Atrix look washed out and grainy. Hopefully it would be a software fix.
The only solution so far is just to take photos in the 5MP resolution. the 3MP and Widescreen (which is like 3.?) are horrible.
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Correct, I love the phone but MMS coming from iphone 4 purely suck!
Also coming from iPhone 4, setting the camera to 5mp does seem to help some for sure though.
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I only take pictures at the 5mp quality and it seems to be fine? : shrug :
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aye it looks fine when not comparing it to anything. But hands down the ip4 camera is far superior and even my captivate camera looks better, meanwhile they're all 5mp
How do u guys think the Evo 3D still pictures will compare in quality to the original Evo?
I know megapixels isn't everything, and of course I'm talking only about 2D stills, but I'm wondering if the still pictures from the 3D will be better
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They better be because the evos camera was garbage no lie
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They better be because the evos camera was garbage no lie
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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Hmm, I am sure there are MANY people that would take offense to that.How is photography any less of a profession then any other job? I would like to see you even come close to some of the pictures professionals can take. The cameras crap on it...
yeah those nokia cameras are ****ing sweet
I wonder why they didn't put dual 8mp on the back, instead of the dual 5mp it's got now?
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I wonder why they didn't put dual 8mp on the back, instead of the dual 5mp it's got now?
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Because MP have nothing to do with quality? It's how big it can be printed out, and to be honest you can't print a 3D picture, so yeah.
They did however mention that the cameras have a CMOS sensor (the sensor is what creates quality, MP have nothing to do with it) so I have extremely high hopes for this camera. If it does what I'm expecting it'll be my upgrade path most likely.
HTC usually either has hits or miss on the camera. Well just have to wait and see.
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Because MP have nothing to do with quality? It's how big it can be printed out, and to be honest you can't print a 3D picture, so yeah.
They did however mention that the cameras have a CMOS sensor (the sensor is what creates quality, MP have nothing to do with it) so I have extremely high hopes for this camera. If it does what I'm expecting it'll be my upgrade path most likely.
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Yea your right. My hd2 is only 5mp and it takes really good photos. Was just wondering why they decided with 5mp, when the evo has 8mp.
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Yea your right. My hd2 is only 5mp and it takes really good photos. Was just wondering why they decided with 5mp, when the evo has 8mp.
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Two 8mp images per 3d picture is probably why. 5mp will take enough space as it is.
That and the thing is... there really is no way currently to have a "great" 8 mp camera on a phone, with a lens/ sensor that small.
Yea the reason for 5mp instead of dual 8mp has to do with image/video file size more than likely.
As for the Evo 1 camera, is have to say its the first phone camera I even considered replacing my real camera with. I have a 12mp ~$200 Sony camera that I never use. 4x6 prints look just as good on both. The Sony handles low light better, but its not worth carrying an extra device
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i dont really care about an upgrade to the camera, as i find it is decent enough for its usability and quality
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they better work on that damned flash....while my pictures are good on the evo, at night everyone is a ghost
The new cmos sensor captures twice as much light in low light situations
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The new cmos sensor captures twice as much light in low light situations
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You got specs to back that up?
i want the camera to be noticeably better then iphone4
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its all settings, I've seen good n bad on both
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i want the camera to be noticeably better then iphone4
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its all settings, I've seen good n bad on both
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lol. In all the pictures i have seen comparing the two, the evo has been worse.
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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My 2cents on this:
Photography is an art, just like painting, tattoos, piercings, acting (stage and TV) and have all been around for as long as history has been written (except for the acting on TV of course). But to talk about getting paid for a hobby, lets now include sports (ALL Sports) and these are also considered "hobbies" but these people get paid more than doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc. You don't complain about them though.
About the camera, like said before....its a phone, 5MP is awesome AND IT HAS TWO. For daily use, it should/will get the job done. If your a "professional" D) then you would not even consider using the phone for your work. It's called convenience and it's why you pay $700 for a phone that can play movies, pictures, search the web, play low quality game (that can be addictive), TEXT, have a camera and flashlight with you at all times, GPS (all this on a relatively small screen) and I guess make a call.
Don't discriminate!
I'm a massive fan of the EVO and am pre-ordering the 3D immediately. That being said, the EVO 1 pictures aren't as good as the Iphones. In Outdoor, sunny situations they are excellent but indoors they suck compare to the iphone. Also, the flash handling really is garbage, I'm always trying to adjust the white balance to account for it or take my picture slightly further back etc etc. It's just ****ty and then I see my brother iPhone 4 pics using OOTB settings taking the same stupid picture of our family at the table and its way better.
I would really like to see some information stating that the CMOS sensor is 2x as good...it certainly better be!!
Another note, the iPhone 4 video is a WORLD above the EVO in lower light. It embarrassing. I brag about my phone but then can't use the video from a basketball game because its indoors and again...brothers iPhone videos look pretty good.
A side note, can't stand apple and their draconian koolaid they sell all the schmucks on
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I've found that when were dealing with pictures in natural lighting, the results are absolutely AMAZING, but when it comes to low light, darkness and requiring the flash, that is when the coloring was off and blurry etc. i would expect the same from the new camera just as basically every phone cam i've seen.
Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
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Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
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Welcome to mobile cameras, they all throw pixel count at you when what they really need are better sensors. I have NEVER had a phone camera take pictures that didn't have tons of noise and look like complete **** on a decent monitor. In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
Agree^^
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In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
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Can you compare to Maxx HD?
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Great minds think alikeļ¼
Disagree.. maybe its your laptop... The pics from my rezound look awesome on my laptop
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Nokia has killer cameras. Even the old models, wish others would follw them
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Have been playing with the camera all day today. Compared to iphone5 this shows lot of noise especially in low light. When cmpared to gs3, noise is marginally higher in low light photos. Under good light conditions, this seems to produce most faithful color reproduction.
Just my observation
Yea, I just compared gsiii and DNA cameras, I think gsiii is better most of the time, but not in color reproduction. But honestly, they are both awful. :thumbdown:
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I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
Well, what do you expect from a phone's camera? Whatever the camera's hardware is, if 90% of its settings are controlled automatically, the result is most probably going to suck. In a darker scene, this phone's software may want to bump the ISO higher than another phone's software, hence this noise and lack of detail. But anyway, a different camera app and you knowing how to use it will most probably show better results.
For me, a cellphone's camera is not much more than a barcode scanner.
Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
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Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
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Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
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Don't forget-I was NOT really holding the camera steady (Tipsy), but my spouse had my S3 and the DNA's pics actually look better in those low-light shots than on the S3. I need to go to the Conservatory and take some daylight shots of all the tropical plants. THAT'S where I usually take my dSLR and even when I took the S3 there, the pics came out great,popping colors, etc.... Let's see how the DNA can handle those.
The difference is amazing!!!
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I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
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I just downloaded the Camera 360 Ultimate from the Play Store and the difference is very, VERY noticeable. EVERY DNA owner needs to switch immediately. It's COMPLETELY a software issue. I'll be testing other camera apps right now, but this was a drastic improvement!!!
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I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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On my monitor those pictures look absolutely horrible, grainy and pixely. Are you using a stock camera or a 3rd party one?
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Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
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Well no camera will ever be like buying a nikon but getting normal point&shoot quality pics isn't much to ask for, nokias are able to achieve it, seems to be just a part of the phone being skimped on. Nothing to stop me frfom buyin though, they are "good enough"
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Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
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Dude, something is definitely wrong with your lens. Half those pictures look flat out BLURRY. There are a bevy of example shots from the DNA, just google some and take a look. I'd upload some of my own if it werent for the fact they're already out there. Those pictures you took look like something my 2001 blackberry pearl took.