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AT&T corporate stores in Northern California (and other select markets) is because they want to promote the Skyrocket for possible upcoming LTE markets. Such a pain, because I've been trying to exchange my device in-store for quite awhile.
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Can you please link to that page?
This is not good for the development community...
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If only LTE markets are affected, I don't think we'll even feel the change in the development of this (i777) phone.
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He most likely can not. Looks like an internal page and or a page on which needs to be logged into
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Most of our top devs don't even get HSPA+ service... Why would we get a fatty LTE phone with a Crapdragon?
Entropy512 said:
Most of our top devs don't even get HSPA+ service... Why would we get a fatty LTE phone with a Crapdragon?
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My feeling exactly
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I don't get the fact that if this is going to be the flagship LTE device WHY the hell they would do it on less than GREAT hardware like THE SGS2. Why the screen resolutuion sacrifice, why the lesser of processors....I really don't give a crap....I am not getting that OTHER device......Its just stupid to do this to such a GREAT phone. But then again AT&T has always been stupid.
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More to the story from the thread OP pulled the screenshot from. It's all in the last couple of pages of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332041
First, it's great that your posting info like this that can help people make better decisions and I'm sure people in the selected areas mentioned will appreciate it.
But, this is what your originally posted...
plus, at&t is going to stop selling the OG SGS2 after nov. 6th.
but that's only at actual at&t stores, idk about like best buy, radioshack etc
If it were me, I would have posted that "to really push LTE, AT&T's offering special pricing in some markets and suspending the sale of HSPA+ phones at its corporate stores to highlight the Skyrocket and Vivid." Your post made it sound as if the ASGS2 is dead or dying and made no mention of other phones being effected. I don't know what the start/stop dates of the promo are but the Atrix 2, ASGS2, and other phones listed aren't going to be permenantly removed from those markets. It makes no economic sense especially because AT&T has volume commitments to uphold.
It's not only the ASGS2, it's a bunch other HSPA+ devices being suspended also in the markets mentioned. It seems nuts that AT&T would permenantly stop selling HSPA+ devices, two of which were just released, just to force people in to LTE phones. All the suspended phones can still be orderd online, over the phone, by request in a corporate store, and at a B&M partner store.
I don't even have hspa+ in my area.....so lte? Lol.....ya I'm sticking with this phone...
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So this phone only made it for two months or less on the market? Something isn't right here.
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Skyrocket is replacing the Infuse 4g.
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I am interested in trading my nexus for an unlocked note. I plan on using T-mobiles 4g on the note. The GPS is horrible on my nexus and the reason Im trading for the note is because I've read that it is great with gps. That's pretty much the only reason. What are your opinions, how is GPS on ur note? Let me know everything that u think. And I do plan on rooting the note.
Edit : I plan on running cm7 due to the responses here. I've read that it does great when it comes to GPS but I understand that its a hit or miss when it comes to GPS
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GPS is hit or miss. Why not keep the nexus also? I'm starting to consider getting a gnex for when I don't want to lug this thing around, plus the updates. I've had this phone since release and have been waiting for ics for the source for the kernel got over clock and find myself waiting for jb ports now. GPS with ics radios is so so.
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I am interested in trading my nexus for an unlocked note. I plan on using T-mobiles 4g on the note. The GPS is horrible on my nexus and the reason Im trading for the note is because I've read that it is great with gps. That's pretty much the only reason. What are your opinions, how is GPS on ur note? Let me know everything that u think. And I do plan on rooting the note.
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After the ICS update I can't get a hard lock without wifi on... Really sucks and there are a few more peeps with the same issue. It definitely was a winner with GB, but with ICS it's not (though I'm running stock ICS). If the price is right I say go for it, maybe you'll have better luck with Tmob 4G than I'm having with ATT LTE.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix this, there are several of us who would be greatly appreciative.
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After the ICS update I can't get a hard lock without wifi on... Really sucks and there are a few more peeps with the same issue. It definitely was a winner with GB, but with ICS it's not (though I'm running stock ICS). If the price is right I say go for it, maybe you'll have better luck with Tmob 4G than I'm having with ATT LTE.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix this, there are several of us who would be greatly appreciative.
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I updated to stock jellybean. Deoxed and rooted of course. And GPS is working amazingly now. Like never before. I took it for a test run around my city and its just amazing now.
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So, I'm moving to a Sprint dead zone and thinking about switching to att. The price will be close to the same, but with only 4gb of data which doesn't mean much because I get crap for 3g and will never see 4g. Anyone have any luck getting out of contract for crappy service? I would probably get the sgs3, because the one x doesn't have an sd card slot, unless there is something better coming soon to att.
I know I could get an airrave, but that would still leave my phone useless out in the yard and probably in parts of my house as well and since I'm always on my phone I don't want to deal with crap service at my house. Any tips, suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Airwave
Hey, just go talk time them and tell them that u are moved ng to a dead zone and you will switch to at&t if they don't help u. Ask for an Airwave for your house. It is like a mini tower.
In a lot of cases they offer it as an incentive to stay, complained for my cousin since she hates dealing with sprint and got one free of charge awhile back
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In a lot of cases they offer it as an incentive to stay, complained for my cousin since she hates dealing with sprint and got one free of charge awhile back
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All I did was ask for an airave and they sent me one free
What's the range on an airrave, because I have six acres and want to use my phone in the yard if necessary?
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What's the range on an airrave, because I have six acres and want to use my phone in the yard if necessary?
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If I remember correctly it's 4000-5000 sqft correct me if I'm wrong
5000 sounds about right. Which is only about 30-50 feet away. With mine i lose service just after walking out the front door. If you need it for 6 acres, Sprint won't work for you.
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That's what I was afraid of. Now its time to see if sprint will let me go without ETFs. Anyone with suggestions on how to approach them with this request? I just wish the One X had expandable memory then my phone choice would be easy.
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Well, I sent an email. I guess we'll see how it goes.
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So this is the bs generic response I got.
Hi Ted,
Thank you for your email; Sprint appreciates your patronage and understands your concerns. Because yours is a densely populated area, Sprint is in the midst of a national revitalization, expansion, and enhancement of existing services to increase your area capacity, which will implement Sprint’s Network Vision. In and around your area, any coverage challenges would be the result of construction, and engineering calibration. As with any construction project material, man-power, government regulation, community involvement, environmental concerns, and even the weather can affect completion times. This project is being completed as fast and safe as possible. The below links provide information on the enhancements Sprint is making.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html? id16=network%20vision
http://network.sprint.com/? id16=network%20vision
Derek Ross
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durandetto said:
That's what I was afraid of. Now its time to see if sprint will let me go without ETFs. Anyone with suggestions on how to approach them with this request? I just wish the One X had expandable memory then my phone choice would be easy.
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What I've read is by force roaming and eating up gigs worth of data will make them want to drop you. That or wait for a change in the contract that might have an "adverse affect" like a price increase. I'm looking for loopholes myself.. Best of luck to you!
On a side note if you do get out of your contract and head to AT&T, they've announced the HTC One X+ which is an upgrade over the One X. I'd look into that before settling on the SGSIII
I berated a Sprint rep just yes and now they've flipped the switch on 4g in my area. I'm not going anywhere lol. Not like my rant had anything to do with it, it was perfect timing
Folks, before I get flamed for posting that and before a Moderator closes my thread, please read what I have to say.
I live in Atlanta, where LTE supposedly is everywhere. Or so I thought "supposedly" when I had the Evo because ever since I got it, I've only seen it connected once(I thought maybe it just wasn't available yet.)
Then I thought maybe it was my phone since people were reporting getting 4G speeds a lot in Atlanta, so I argued my way into getting another one from Sprint. Same thing. Never connected.
Then I got myself a Galaxy Nexus. The phone was great (til I broke it) and it was always connected to 4G.
(I even made a thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846041)
When my brother came to visit me, I even tested his Evo LTE. Same thing.
Then I broke my Galaxy Nexus and bought a Galaxy S III. To my surprise, it also always connected to 4G.
I went to Sprint and compared it to an Evo LTE to see if that one would connect. I checked the settings to make sure LTE is on and it still wouldn't connect.
Even my 3G speeds on the Samsung devices are better.
Thus, I learned so far that Samsung's antenna's are a LOT better than HTC antenna.
(FYI, I do not work or am endorsed by Samsung in any means. Matter of fact, I think their phones feel like cheap plastic pieces of sh*t and I wish I could have my HTC again (in working condition.))
Maybe we need to pressure HTC into putting in better antennas in our phones.
Are you sure you were on LTE on the Samsung phones? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the EVOLTE is an LTE only phone and doesn't connect to Sprint's legacy 'faux-g' hspa network while I believe the Sammy phones do. My first Samsung phone was the intercept ( a miserable failure) and my second was the nexus s 4g(terrible reception but great phone). I've had much better luck with HTC phones when it comes to hardware.
I've only been to ATL once on a business trip and managed to connect to LTE before Sprint officially launched it so I was impressed
Edit: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III/phones/7019,6330
^Here is a decent source to prove it. I blame Sprint for being d***headed enough to insist on having an exclusive version of the One-X with features that didn't leave enough room for all the radios we need. They should have just taken the One-X as it was intended by HTC. Personally there us no 4g in my area at all so the Evo works fine picking up 3g
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Are you sure you were on LTE on the Samsung phones? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the EVOLTE is an LTE only phone and doesn't connect to Sprint's legacy 'faux-g' hspa network while I believe the Sammy phones do. My first Samsung phone was the intercept ( a miserable failure) and my second was the nexus s 4g(terrible reception but great phone). I've had much better luck with HTC phones when it comes to hardware.
I've only been to ATL once on a business trip and managed to connect to LTE before Sprint officially launched it so I was impressed
Edit: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III/phones/7019,6330
^Here is a decent source to prove it. I blame Sprint for being d***headed enough to insist on having an exclusive version of the One-X with features that didn't leave enough room for all the radios we need. They should have just taken the One-X as it was intended by HTC. Personally there us no 4g in my area at all so the Evo works fine picking up 3g
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I see where you're coming from but yes these are both LTE.
Galaxy Nexus was Sprint's first LTE phone launched, then Evo and I believe then GS3.
And the speeds I'm getting (in good areas) are 20MB plus.
At work, I get a constant 3-5MB.
So I do not think it's T-Mobile's HSPA that I'm connecting to but actual LTE.
Even if it's true, false, or up for debate, you won't get a good discussion on it here.
I foresee posts about plastic phones, pentile screens, and TouchWiz.
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I see where you're coming from but yes these are both LTE.
Galaxy Nexus was Sprint's first LTE phone launched, then Evo and I believe then GS3.
And the speeds I'm getting (in good areas) are 20MB plus.
At work, I get a constant 3-5MB.
So I do not think it's T-Mobile's HSPA that I'm connecting to but actual LTE.
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Well the point is that I think Sprint has a bigger hspa footprint than LTE so you may be getting hspa and then LTE when you enter its range(thus the good 20mb spots). Even if the Samsung radio is slightly better you should still be able to connect on the Evo...
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Even if it's true, false, or up for debate, you won't get a good discussion on it here.
I foresee posts about plastic phones, pentile screens, and TouchWiz.
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I know. I figured. I was think perhaps someone could come up with a better answer here. On Samsung section, I would only get things like "Yeah Samsung all the way!!!" Etc.
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Well the point is that I think Sprint has a bigger hspa footprint than LTE so you may be getting hspa and then LTE when you enter its range(thus the good 20mb spots). Even if the Samsung radio is slightly better you should still be able to connect on the Evo...
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I see what you're saying.
Also, I agree with the Evo should still be connecting. Not sure why it wasn't 3 Evo's at that.
(I tried all 3 different radios. Even lost my S-OFF and my Root in order to try the latest radio because I was that desperate for answers.)
Sprint doesn't have a hspa network. There are no phones that connect to Sprint’s previous 4G network (wimax) and their current 4G (LTE) network.
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Sprint doesn't have a hspa+ network.
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Yeah that's what I thought too. Isn't T-Mobile the only one left with HSPA?
And honestly, Samsung vs. HTC aside, the problem is more on the carrier than HTC... Or both I guess. I used 2 friend's One X and GS3 next to each other in hspa+ 4G and they both were very close as far as load times. The GS3 person ended up swapping in her gs3 for the One X after seeing the software difference though Sprint just forced HTC to skimp on the radios with the extra evo features jammed in.
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Yeah that's what I thought too. Isn't T-Mobile the only one left with HSPA?
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At&t uses a hspa+ network for 4G as well as LTE.
The connection issues are well documented and have been known to Sprint since at least April.
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Sprint doesn't have a hspa network. There are no phones that connect to Sprint’s previous 4G network (wimax) and their current 4G (LTE) network.
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Well, I could be wrong then.. Whatever tech they used for their old fauxG is what I'm talking about. Is there really no phone that can use both?
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I'm in dallas and my evo drops 4g left and right. Even when I find a strong siginal it switchs back to 3g. I'm currently lookin to sell mine an gettin a gs3 as I type this. It's bull**** payim 10$ extra for **** u can't use
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At&t uses a hspa+ network for 4G as well as LTE.
The connection issues are well documented and have been known to Sprint since at least April.
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Was not aware. It's not just signal issues. It's HTC signal issues, correct??
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Well, I could be wrong then.. Whatever tech they used for their old fauxG is what I'm talking about. Is there really no phone that can use both?
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You're talking WiMax.
And GS3 is not WiMax compatible.
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I'm in dallas and my evo drops 4g left and right. Even when I find a strong siginal it switchs back to 3g. I'm currently lookin to sell mine an gettin a gs3 as I type this. It's bull**** payim 10$ extra for **** u can't use
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Just be aware, on GS3 you'll still have to pay the $10 fee.
Only way you won't is if you switch to a non 4G WiMax or 4G LTE phone.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...e-else-having-sprint-gs-iii-radio-issues.html
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/96470
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/92898
Honestly though, both phones are getting threads like this daily so I'm having a hard time believing any signal related complaints anymore.
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Just be aware, on GS3 you'll still have to pay the $10 fee.
Only way you won't is if you switch to a non 4G WiMax or 4G LTE phone.[/QUOTE]
I know but at least ill get better connection as I impatiently wait for sprint to finish the LTE lol
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I'm honestly torn between HTC and Samsung, sometimes. I love how an HTC phone feels in my hands, nice and solid. Sense looks good but can sometimes be a performance hog. Samsung does some pretty unique stuff to their devices (multiscreen, s-pen, etc) and I like that. I hate how the whole damn thing is just a bar of plastic, just don't like what it feels like compared to HTC. But software wise, Tocuhwiz isn't that bad, IMO. It's much closer to AOSP than any other OEMs version of Android.
But if you want a good read on the upcoming struggles with Samsung's Exynos-based devices, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922613&page=2
Start around post 16, some really good info from a CM dev. I like Samsung for always getting out their source early, but if it's broken and doesn't compile, then it doesn't matter. And if they can't help with any low level processor stuff because it's proprietary to them, they're not helping the community as much as they try to show that they are. Just my 2 cents.
Radio aside, how do you like the GS3 compared to the EVOLTE?
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Radio aside, how do you like the GS3 compared to the EVOLTE?
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Don't really wanna answer cuz I think you're a POS but no, I don't.
I wish I had my Evo back sometimes.
Very solid phone. GS3 freezes. My keyboard can't keep up with my typing and I end up with words like "whuoi dasu unjhoos" (this matters to me. I text a LOT.. like 500 or so texts per day.)
The speaker phones sounds terrible.
It's durable as a cold butter stick.
Feels very plastic-y.
However pros:
Service,
More developers available for it on XDA,
Very light.
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Don't really wanna answer cuz I think you're a POS but no, I don't.
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LOL!
I've actually come close to trading my EVO for a GS3 a couple times. No LTE here, so that's never factored in.
Basically 3 things have kept me from doing so:
1. People want way too much +$
2. Most that I've come across not in mint condition
3. I'm lazy
Oh, and also been trying to sell a car on CL, so haven't reposted my EVO for GS3 ad in awhile.
Doesn't most of the EVO's LTE connection problem stem from software? Bc last I heard the next ota is going to address it?
Personally, I won't have LTE for another few months at the earliest. So, it doesn't matter much to the majority of the US. Granted there are a lot of EVO users in the LTE startup cities. But does this mean a mass exodus from the EVO for 4g connectivity?
I can wait to see if an ota fixes the issues. I mean what are we gonna do, go to Verizon? Hahahaha.
Like me? I have an upgrade available and I figure I should use it ASAP. I'd go for the SIII but no international support (FYI: Note II does not have a removable SIM. grr)
way too big to be used as a phone for me..
I plan on it, though on tmobile rather then sprint
I'm going to get the note 2 on Verizon.
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I'm a little miffed as to why the note 2 doesn't support SVDO while it's GS3 counterpart does. Even so it's still a toss up between the note and the S3 for me.
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All of the phablets are too big for me. Hell, even the new 4.7" screens while very nice to look at, seem outside of normal size to me. I'd probably go GS3 if Sprint retention would offer any reason for me to upgrade my contract, but since they won't and CM10 keeps my MoPho alive and kicking, no need to spend the money.
I plan to at least check it out tomorrow. If I like it enough I will pay full price for it. Now way am I locking it into a 2 year extension when Sprint doesn't even know if LTE will ever come to my area. If I don't like it, I may settle with the Iphone. Either way the Photon has got to go.
This guy is, my photon and evo 3D are both out of commission(photon dropped, signal is rendered useless) (evo 3d, failed digitizer), so, why pay to get those fixed right now when I can buy a beast!!!....with the latest version of Android...and a cool pen,lol, but i'll still get my photon and evo repaired in my leisure time, but the note 2 is gonna be my daily driver for a long....long time
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Bought a S3 off contract from some poor fool on craigslist who needed money badly.. 200 dollars was a steal. Note 2 looks pretty tempting, but i've got a while to wait till my contract is up. I have LTE at my house and various places around town and it's pretty nice. Battery life is better than WIMAX. Probably wait till the next big thing comes out.
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I'm going to get the note 2 on Verizon.
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Why so?
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Yep! It's currently out for delivery!!!! Can't wait to get it.
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Sprint's version has embedded SIM....thus outrageous international rates.
I was going to get this, but the lack of international sim support makes it useless for me, I have about 5 upgrade eligibility's that I can't use because of sprints stupid policy of embedding sim cards. Sprint has yet to release a world phone other than iphone's since the photon and I may have to change carriers if they don't release a world phone again.
Maybe later...
I tried it out and the size didn't seem to feel any different in my pocket (I was using a friend's) and probably would upgrade but I plan on moving in a few months (moving for school) and probably should wait to see what area I'd be in first especially since I seem to use my phone for everything but a phone most of the time.
If you're like me and don't like the embedded SIM, pay attention to this thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1959005
If I see real progress soon, I might be pulling the trigger soon.
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Why so?
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My wife didn't get a good signal at her job with Sprint but her co workers who have Verizon get great signal. So we're going to switch plus I'd like to actually have 4g speeds.
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Lightsword1942 said:
I was going to get this, but the lack of international sim support makes it useless for me, I have about 5 upgrade eligibility's that I can't use because of sprints stupid policy of embedding sim cards. Sprint has yet to release a world phone other than iphone's since the photon and I may have to change carriers if they don't release a world phone again.
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What don't you like about the Photon as a world phone might I ask? Iphone blows as a world btw.
And I went with the GS3. It was a better fit. Note was too big along with some other things like screen I didn't like.
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Equalizir said:
My wife didn't get a good signal at her job with Sprint but her co workers who have Verizon get great signal. So we're going to switch plus I'd like to actually have 4g speeds.
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Good deal
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