[Q] n00b Rooting questions and general concerns. - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Ok, just figured instead of asking question here and question there, I will just put all of it in one place.
My last phone was an HTC Inspire 4G. which was my first Android phone after coming from a 3gs. I kept the Inspire stock.
On launch day I was first in line for a GSII (SGH-I777).
now i am looking into rooting. my questions are:
1. what are the major benefits of rooting?
2. what are the possible cons of rooting the GSII?
3. which of the three methods listed is the one for me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288112
4. what are the pros/cons of overclocking. i saw online where the I777 can be overclocked to 1.5Ghz. what is to be gained by this for a day-to-day user?
The main reasons i am looking to Root are:
1. to remove bloatware and factory apps i dont use.
2. i would like to install the Prime bootanimation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296512
3. maybe to customize the appearance of the phone.
4. maybe overclock.
Any help/answers are greatly appreciated. and thank you for bearing with my lack of Rooting knowledge.

1) Full customization of your phone. Backup apps, location apps, potential battery saving options. Custom Roms and Themes.
2)
Warranty Void. That's about the only major flaw I see. Some roms have less-than-stock support for Bluetooth streaming (CM7) and stuff like that, but nothing serious.
3)
Method 1 for me was the easiest and quickest.
4) Underclocking saves power. overclocking drains power much more quickly. However you get alot more processing power.

i personally dont find overclocking useful since I dont need that additional power. Besides, you run the risk of making your phone become less stable especially when undervolting.

I rooted and installed cognition.... now when my phone boots the loading screen says gt-9100.
Is this the rom or the kernel/root process that would have done this and how can I switch back? My jig should be here soon and I would like everything to look stock. Thanks.
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Kadernal said:
I rooted and installed cognition.... now when my phone boots the loading screen says gt-9100.
Is this the rom or the kernel/root process that would have done this and how can I switch back? My jig should be here soon and I would like everything to look stock. Thanks.
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thats by design. when you flashed CWM and rooted, thats what comes up.

Kadernal said:
I rooted and installed cognition.... now when my phone boots the loading screen says gt-9100.
Is this the rom or the kernel/root process that would have done this and how can I switch back? My jig should be here soon and I would like everything to look stock. Thanks.
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It is from the kernel flashing to get root process. You can fix it, it is kind of convoluted and seems harder than it really is, but you will find it is not that hard once you do.
It is a kernel swapping process you can learn more following these posts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18308945&postcount=157
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Method 1 is the one i was looking at also. But will that keep my phone setup/ settings the same and just allow me root access or will it return my phone to stock?
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[Q] Could I root my Vibrant, but keep it stock?

Hey all, I would like to root someone's vibrant, BUT I want to keep it perfectly stock. The only reason I want root is so I could set the voltage lower and underclock the CPU using setcpu for higher battery life. Is that possible?
Yes.
Just download the root update. Zip file in the development section and that's it.
If you upgrade your firmware it will automatically unroot
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yes, technically.
by rooting ONLY you end with stock and root access.
so yea, i guess it's like stock but not really lol.
Alanrocks15 said:
Yes.
Just download the root update. Zip file in the development section and that's it.
If you upgrade your firmware it will automatically unroot
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Could you clarify a little more, I don't understand
xtone said:
yes, technically.
by rooting ONLY you end with stock and root access.
so yea, i guess it's like stock but not really lol.
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Haha, well basically here's the thing. I've a friend's vibrant, but I think it's hardware locked. I want to be able to root it, and use a touchwiz rom stock or hacked, BUT I want the ability to be able to go back to complete 100% stock. I'm a complete noob when it comes to the Vibrant/Galaxy S phones that's why I don't want to try anything on my own. Especially since it's not my phone. haha thanks in advance for replyin! ^_^
Rooting the phone will not do anything to your phone except give you root access to the system files and such.
Just rooting it will not change anything appearance wise at all. And you can even still get OTA updates, that is if they ever actually get those working correctly.
So go ahead and root. It won't change a thing.
And you'll be able to use those certain apps that only work on a rooted phone.
isikh said:
Hey all, I would like to root someone's vibrant, BUT I want to keep it perfectly stock. The only reason I want root is so I could set the voltage lower and underclock the CPU using setcpu for higher battery life. Is that possible?
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Sure, this is entirely possible. Just keep in mind that undervolting and underclocking isn't going to gain you massive increases in battery life. The radio's and display are overwhelmingly greater current draws.
eminembdg said:
Rooting the phone will not do anything to your phone except give you root access to the system files and such.
Just rooting it will not change anything appearance wise at all. And you can even still get OTA updates, that is if they ever actually get those working correctly.
So go ahead and root. It won't change a thing.
And you'll be able to use those certain apps that only work on a rooted phone.
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Ah, I made myself sound like a total noob. I actually know what rooting does, etc, in fact, I've a G1 that I used for roughly 2 yrs, running CM, used a DEFY running a blurless ROM. I was just curious about the Vibrant since it's very new to me and I'm just being cautious. However, I thought I had a hardware locked Vibrant, but I tried booting into recovery mode, and it worked,first a weird screen came up, it said something like movicheckstart, and then recovery mode popped up, is that fine, and does that mean it's not hardware locked?
Google : Root yyour Vibrant XDA
and go to the first post
Follow the instructions
Done any more clearer?
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Alanrocks15 said:
Google : Root yyour Vibrant XDA
and go to the first post
Follow the instructions
Done any more clearer?
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I got root with superoneclick. Now, can I flash CWM recovery via recovery manager and then boot into recovery and flash a ROM?
Yea, it's what I did for a while. Stock with root so I could clock, remove bloatware and run apps that require root. Not a bad gig but Trigger is so much better.

[Q] Newbie considering rooting my X2

I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
dabombk1 said:
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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Rooting is a must; and removing the bloat is great, but installing a custom ROM is better performance wise.
Try a couple ROMs and find what one you like best. I use Liberty because I find it to be the fastest.
dabombk1 said:
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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Sorry bout the thanks..hit the button by accident. As for rooting, if you follow the directions correctly, you SHOULD be ok" but there's always a chance you can have a problem. That's why the directions state at your own risk. And yes you will notice your phone will run considerably faster once you debloat the Verizon crapware. Also installing roms such as nitros eclipse or Kejars31's liberty will also improve the phones performance. Im using liberty & its pretty quick, but both are great. Hope that helps you out
I haven't used Liberty, so I can't vouch for it. But Eclipse is a great rom to try. The devs remove most bloatware, as well as the Blur skin, unless something is necessary in almost all roms. Both of these things, as well as some performance scripts and other built in modifications make a significant difference. Just be sure you have the correct version of android running before flashing, and just to be on the safe side, be sure to download RSD Lite and the correct SBF for 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 whichever you choose.
If you want a ROM, I'd suggest Molten, fastest I've seen!
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I'm currently using Eclipse and the V6 script and let me tell you, it is now the phone it should have been stock. Rooting and flashing ROMs are a must for this device, and as long as you follow directions and are crystal clear on what they tell you to do, there is little to no risk involved. I was in your position when I got my X1, and after I installed the Apex ROM, there was no chance I'd ever use stock again. Good luck my friend!
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Make sure you follow all of the directions and read up anytime you have a question. I have learned much and more from all the people around here and their informative posts. It is intimidating at first to root, install recovery then install a ROM but once you've done it it is really awesome.
I want to try Liberty on my rooted X2 but cannot find it anywhere. I've searched, but may have missed it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thank you in advance for your help.
Romans8vs1 said:
I want to try Liberty on my rooted X2 but cannot find it anywhere. I've searched, but may have missed it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thank you in advance for your help.
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Liberty:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/7699-rom-libertyx2-3-rc1-time-for-the-eagle-to-once-again-take-flight/
dabombk1 said:
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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I am currently stock rooted. And yes removing g bloat will free up some ram and u should notice some difference in performance.
But I recommend freezing before removing since there is a lot of apps that are interdependent on each other so u need to be careful what u remove.
most of the roms on here will remove the junk for u anyways.
Just make a nandroid of stock after u root and install our bootstrap so u can always go back to stock if u would like or need to.
If u r just looking to remove apps like kindle amazon blockbuster etc.. u will be fine. Feel free to ask any questions (u can also private message me if ud like) and ill do my best to help ya out that's what this forum is for
Thank you!
And don't worry about the 2.3.4 but anymore, Nitro has fixed it and it should be gone with his next release!
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Besides for the debloating/freezing and flashing roms that other posters have mentioned, one of the best things I like about rooting is being able to use an app titled Keyboard Manager. It is only available to root users, but it allows you to set keyboards based on orientation. For example, I use swype in portrait and blur keyboard in landscape.
Its the little things...
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GibsA750 said:
Its the little things...
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Its not like you unlock a world of free apps and instantly become a Android Guru, you just get those few things that you wanted before and always said "I really wish I could change that" well its making open source even more open.
Keep reading the xda forums and you will learn alot. I started by using the "one click root," freezing bloat wear, and then started experimenting with Roms to squeeze all the free memory and performance I can out of my x2. Like you I am a computer tech head, but didn't know much about android. The knowledge comes fast though.
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GibsA750 said:
Besides for the debloating/freezing and flashing roms that other posters have mentioned, one of the best things I like about rooting is being able to use an app titled Keyboard Manager. It is only available to root users, but it allows you to set keyboards based on orientation. For example, I use swype in portrait and blur keyboard in landscape.
Its the little things...
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that's a tasty little tidbit there, I like swipe but never turned it on because I really only liked it in portrait, hence, I really now do all my typing in landscape.
definitely root your phone. and definitely do what some of the others stated like getting a sbf and using rsd lite. im running eclipse if it means anything. havent tried liberty yet. didnt like alien or atrix port so much.
dabombk1 said:
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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YES! Rooting is the way to go. I just installed CM7 and absolutely love it. Phone works great - no Verizon bloat and battery life seems good. Phone is extremely fast and stable. Go to the "CM7" posts to learn how to update your phone to CM7. Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442803
addisoj said:
YES! Rooting is the way to go. I just installed CM7 and absolutely love it. Phone works great - no Verizon bloat and battery life seems good. Phone is extremely fast and stable. Go to the "CM7" posts to learn how to update your phone to CM7. Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442803
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I second that statement. I've tried Liberty and Eclipse, and no disrespect to those developers at all, but AOSP is the way to go and CM7 is the first AOSP ROM available for the DX2. I was afraid I made the wrong choice for a phone because I root and flash ROMs on my phones, but CM7 on the DX2 has made me feel much better. Try it! You'll love it!
Where did the .sbf go?
I've found several dead links for the "VRZ_MB870_4.5.1A-DTN-117-15_1FF_01.sbf.gz
"
Someone at androidforums said they found a working one at droidx forums, but I haven't found it my self. I asked if he would post a link. Guess we'll see.
Edit: I found what I was looking for. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707

[Q] Rooting noob: Benefits, worth it or not and how to?

First off, I would like to say that I have been actively reading and searching the web for information on these topics and I have found many different sources and answers.
The reason why I am still starting a new threat about this is because I am completely new to the 'development'/modifying spectrum of my phone. And while many of the threats give accurate descriptions on how to root it or what to use, I still am left with many noobi blanks on this topic.
1. Rooting, what exactly are the benefits and what will be altered if I decide to root my device?
2. Is it worth it to root my phone? What's the major benefits and new things I will be able to do? And are there any problems or dangers I need to be aware of? (I've been using it for almost a year without doing so) Also, is there a way I could backup my current files and data and then place it back on the rooted device?
3. I've read about ways of rooting in which the kernel will be altered and about some in which it won't even be touched. So, what is the, let me put it bluntly, 'best' rooting technique/way to go with?
Thank you for any help possible on this topic!
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
UpInTheAir said:
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
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Wow I can't believe I've missed these two! Will read them right away!
Thank you for the quick help!
Any other help and opinions/experiences are still greatly appreciated!
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
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JJEgan said:
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
jje
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Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
Mr__KJ said:
Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
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No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
AJ.Rockwell said:
No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
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Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty. And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
Yep it indeed did!
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty.
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No, you cannot back up app data without root.
Mr__KJ said:
And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
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If by conversations you mean your SMS, you CAN back up and restore SMS withOUT root using one of several apps. I use SMS Backup+; it backs SMS and MMS messages to your GMail account, and can restore SMS. It cannot restore MMS as of yet though.
Mr__KJ said:
- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
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You can use SetCPU to create profiles based on what state the phone is in, such as screen on/off.
It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' are regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
Mr__KJ said:
It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
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Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
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One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' str regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
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There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
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Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
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I was talking about getting the SMS Backup + right away, which I already did.
And about the SetCPU as soon as I get my phone rooted.
Alright, yes backups are always an important thing to do. So we are talking more of software dangers though (not booting up correctly, stuff messing up or not launching, crashes etc.) rather than any hardware damage that could be caused?
Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
Mr__KJ said:
Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
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Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
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Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
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Oh now that I reread that I see what you mean. I am aware that the rooting it's self will not improve/worsen the performance of the phone or anything else.
I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
Sorry for the confusion!
There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
Mr__KJ said:
I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
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Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
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MistahBungle said:
There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
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Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
anguscmac said:
Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
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You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Give this a try for all the links need to root and the process - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488496
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Hey good luck and have fun
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Is unlock, ROOT and ROM worth it.

Hi,
I've had android devices for years and always kept them locked and stocked.
I've not got an Nexus 10 and was wondering is it actually worth rooting the thing and loading a custom rom?
Will I actually gain anything except be able to change where the home button is?
All thoughts welcome!
THanks in Advance.
If nothing else I would root it. That gives you the option of using programs like Titanium Backup to backup apps and install a custom recovery and have the ability to back up your whole device.
As far as custom ROMS go that's a personal choice. Right now there are not allot out due to the newness of the device, but I'm sure that will change very quickly as Devs stat getting it.
I would root to gain access to titanium back up and ad blockers but beside that there aren't that many great custom roms out there. Stock doesn't have bloatware or any common pitfalls of stock.
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If you are tech savvy, I would highly suggest all 3. You can improve things like battery life by undervolting the CPU and GPU, changing to more conservative governors, and having applications automatically shut off your wifi when your tablet turns off (can't remember if you can do that one without root).
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Yeah, i agree with above opinion. You need to learn things before rooting your tablet. You can check out many rooting videos on YouTube channel to learn about that more easily. Besides, many Google Play apps are free to play.
Check out qbking77 videos on youtube and you will get a how to on the rooting process
Ad blocking is one of the top ten reasons to own any Android device. Root is a vital part of the XDA experience.
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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KestrelX said:
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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So true, its fun and very addictive flashing different stuff on your device. You can also apply themes after rooting
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I was on the fence until i realized the advantages in battery life. I went ahead and did it and havent looked back yet. :good:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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There is an app so you can use OTG without having root, called nexus media importer. Though you have to buy it.
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
I rooted mine to isse adblock and titanim backup, I will not be flashing another ROM in a good while, I want OTA and the tablet runs really well on stock
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Pharmbob said:
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
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Not the only thing you could do with PA - I have this flashed and LOVE it! this might be more of a personal thing but the ability to change your navbar color (battery, time, soft keys) per app is amazing! Again to each their own but I like this ROM on this tablet - I use the CM10 Nightlies on my phone as it suits it better.
To answer the OP - read as much as you can before you decide to Root and Flash - I believe all three is a must but I like to customize things.
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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Well now that you have root and a custom recovery you should try all the candy in this forum
Go to the nexus 10 rom section and try some roms. There are roms that change a whole lot like ParanoidAndroid and there are roms with more subtle changes (like mine).
Keep in mind that flashing a new rom will wipe anything on your tablet but its ok because you can make nandroid (complete) backups of your present state using the recovery.
Also i recommend you to try apps like GMD gesture control. It enables you to define custom gestures for nearly everything. (Comparable tp those on the ipad but more customizable)

[Q] any tips on how to speed up my note 2?

Hey there, I am looking for some instructions on how to speed up my phone. Ever since the latest update for Android it has been getting choppy/hanging and it is becoming frustrating especially when I am trying to get a girl's phone number how do I go about doing this? I suspect I had too many pictures and videos so I packed them all up but did not see any improvement in speed. Any fast ways to uninstall many programs quickly instead of having to do each one at a time? I know that I have tons of apps installed that I don't use anymore. Thank you for any help.
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You can use a program like ROM ToolBox by JRummy to do batch operations like that. I'm sure there are countless others, I just happen to use that suite
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Hey there, I am looking for some instructions on how to speed up my phone. Ever since the latest update for Android it has been getting choppy/hanging and it is becoming frustrating especially when I am trying to get a girl's phone number how do I go about doing this? I suspect I had too many pictures and videos so I packed them all up but did not see any improvement in speed. Any fast ways to uninstall many programs quickly instead of having to do each one at a time? I know that I have tons of apps installed that I don't use anymore. Thank you for any help.
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A phone so hardware rich shouldn't give you those sort of issues. Is your device completely stock?
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yes it is completely stock, never got into loading things like Cyanogen mod because I don't have any need to do so and also afraid of bricking. Thanks kil4thril ill check it out.
You'll have to be rooted to use rom toolbox.
even when you free up your RAM your phone still runs slow?
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I'm stock as well and agree since the 4.3 update my phone has noticeably slowed down....very annoying.
Try removing your SD card if you have one installed. If you see improvement provide the brand and model of SD card.
I Can tell you I switched to Illusions ROM way before the official 4.3 ad it was so freakin fast. Now on CM11 and it is still freakin fast. Much faster than any TW rom.
But ya, you may need to at least root to use some tools to figure it out. I have been using Startup Manager to clean up whats loaded during startup. Its amazing how many apps set themselves to auto start at boot. And almost all are unnecessary.

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