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So I've had the Rezound now for four days after coming from the Dinc2(rooted of course). And I will say the bloatware is driving me crazy. However having to unlock the bootloader thru HTC and still have have S-On bothers me some. So the question is is it worth going thru HTC (and do they keep records that you've unlocked your bootloader), or would it be best to wait for alpharev or someone like that. Thx in advance.
if bloat is the only thing bothering you why not temp root and freeze the bloat until we have true s-off
The chance of revolutionary creating s-off for us is growing slimmer by the day.
Also if you have the updated firmware you can't temp root. They took that away.
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EmerikL said:
The chance of revolutionary creating s-off for us is growing slimmer by the day.
Also if you have the updated firmware you can't temp root. They took that away.
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And I do.
Just HTC unlock and root. The odds of there being s-off anytime soon are very very slim. The odds of there ever being an s-off solution are about the same.
Yeah I would go ahead and unlock. I don't see any point in waiting, someone might have an s-off option in a few months but its just as likely or more likely that we will stay just like we are. I wouldn't have the phone if I was waiting for something that may never come before unlocking and upgrading to a better Rom. I don't see why a developer would put resources into figuring out how to do something that's already been done, while there are a lot of bragging rights to be had most of the really good developers working on this phone are working on things to move us forward.
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tekhna said:
Just HTC unlock and root. The odds of there being s-off anytime soon are very very slim. The odds of there ever being an s-off solution are about the same.
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CharliesTheMan said:
Yeah I would go ahead and unlock. I don't see any point in waiting, someone might have an s-off option in a few months but its just as likely or more likely that we will stay just like we are. I wouldn't have the phone if I was waiting for something that may never come before unlocking and upgrading to a better Rom. I don't see why a developer would put resources into figuring out how to do something that's already been done, while there are a lot of bragging rights to be had most of the really good developers working on this phone are working on things to move us forward.
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Thanks alot guys very good points. I guess I was worried about the warranty, but the fact is I sent a fully rooted Dinc2 to back to Verizon and back no problems so I guess I'll take the plunge and root this thing tonight. Thx again
Now
Yes, it is TOTALLY worth doing now!
I used the HTC unlock method, adb'd the
Amon Ra recovery, used Amon Ra for rooting with
SU and Superuser, then used Titanium to take out
all the garbage. Removed about 15 items.
Now my stock phone starts up with a whole lot fewer
things running that I would never use, and battery life
is like my old Increidble 1.
The Rezound is FAST FAST FAST and does everything right.
The process to ge to your Titanium-revised setup is truly easy
and can be done with stuff found right here in the rezound
forums on XDA...
Just unlock... S-off probably isn't going to happen at this point.
It's worth it Bamf came out with a ROM that fixes a lot of the issues that ICS was having. Plus the tether works in infrastructure mode on ICS
Getting my rezound today, although not a poster a very frequent lurker. My question is, I rooted my Eris almost immediately after I got it, and I rooted my Incredible the day I got it. Should I rooy my Rezound immediately?? I have read about some warranty issues with the phone and I see it is a hassle to get back to stock. As for my tech knowledge I can root and flash but I am not a programmer. Thanks for the help.
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Getting my rezound today, although not a poster a very frequent lurker. My question is, I rooted my Eris almost immediately after I got it, and I rooted my Incredible the day I got it. Should I rooy my Rezound immediately?? I have read about some warranty issues with the phone and I see it is a hassle to get back to stock. As for my tech knowledge I can root and flash but I am not a programmer. Thanks for the help.
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do as i say:
1. HTC Dev unlock
2. flash amonRa Recovery
3. Root
4. s-off
at this point you will be **LOCKED** and s-off. Do whatever you want to it at this point, just don't HTCDev Unlock again. If you need to get back to stock from this point for warranty fears... just flash the latest official software via RUU, and run the s-on procedure, you will then be **LOCKED** and s-on, and fully stock.
peace.
join us on irc. links below.
Download the all in one tool from the stickies section. You can do everything but s off with it.
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Rudy_Ruettiger said:
Download the all in one tool from the stickies section. You can do everything but s off with it.
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yeah the all-in-one tool is nice for getting you through the htcdev unlock process in a pinch... an getting amonRA installed... but it's root script doesn't work right (at least not on ics)-- i wrote a fixed one. and I question it's kernels..etc.
mpominville said:
Getting my rezound today, although not a poster a very frequent lurker. My question is, I rooted my Eris almost immediately after I got it, and I rooted my Incredible the day I got it. Should I rooy my Rezound immediately?? I have read about some warranty issues with the phone and I see it is a hassle to get back to stock. As for my tech knowledge I can root and flash but I am not a programmer. Thanks for the help.
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I'll be the one cautionary advisor.
DON'T root your Rezound until you've had a chance to play with it at least a month.
What happens if you root it today and have to swap it out tomorrow under warranty?
There are no confirmed reports of being charged for a returned rooted phone, but rooting does put you at risk. And there are plenty of confirmed reports of hardware issues.
Give yourself some time to make sure you have a good phone.
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WookieFan said:
I'll be the one cautionary advisor.
DON'T root your Rezound until you've had a chance to play with it at least a month.
What happens if you root it today and have to swap it out tomorrow under warranty?
There are no confirmed reports of being charged for a returned rooted phone, but rooting does put you at risk. And there are plenty of confirmed reports of hardware issues.
Give yourself some time to make sure you have a good phone.
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I completely agree with this. You have 14 days to play with your Rezound and decide if you want to keep it.
If developer support is important to you and you're hoping to get a slew of AOSP options, you might want to think twice. AOSP is coming, but we have no idea in what capacity it will be supported or if we'll get an official CM9 or what.
If you love Sense and want nothing more than Sense ROMs, then stick around; there are tons of them in all sorts of variants (Sense 3.6 & 4.0).
It's a fantastic device no matter how you look at it. The hardware is truly superb. Just make sure it's right for you.
I rooted mine after two days. It's easy, just READ EVERYTHING. Especially the s-off process. I haven't s-off yet though. I don't see the need yet til after official ota comes out
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Evocm7 said:
I rooted mine after two days. It's easy, just READ EVERYTHING. Especially the s-off process. I haven't s-off yet though. I don't see the need yet til after official ota comes out
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If you're going to root, you might as well do S-Off if you have the time and patience to read through all of the material. You can actually return the phone to stock, ROM installation is easier and more straightforward, you can switch radios if needed and RUU upgrade or downgrade.
The biggest reason to do it now is that there's no guarantee that S-Off will work in the future. I held off doing S-Off for a few weeks at first (mostly because of lack of time), but looking back I would have done it sooner if I could have. Pretty much all of the bugs have been encountered and sorted out.
yeah, if you're nervous or want some real-time walk through of your s-off process and what not, join us on irc... and be patient, once one of us is around we'll get you through it, we've done it for others a dozen times at least now and all have been successful.
Root in exactly 29 days, 23hours and 59minutes after you first turned it on. Timing is extremely important!!
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If you're going to root, you might as well do S-Off if you have the time and patience to read through all of the material. You can actually return the phone to stock, ROM installation is easier and more straightforward, you can switch radios if needed and RUU upgrade or downgrade.
The biggest reason to do it now is that there's no guarantee that S-Off will work in the future. I held off doing S-Off for a few weeks at first (mostly because of lack of time), but looking back I would have done it sooner if I could have. Pretty much all of the bugs have been encountered and sorted out.
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Ya I know. I'm going to s-off soon since the ota will be out somewhat soon. I just saw no point in s-off with no official radios to flash and flashing kernel in bootloader and fastboot is no big deal to me. When I got my rezound, s-off was still somewhat uncommon but now it isn't. I really want to have everything figured out first before I do it and make sure I understand everything before I attempt so I don't end up like these other people posting "ahhh I bricked my phone with s-off!!!!" Even though they really didn't and just made a mistake due to ignorance or not paying attention. After you obtain s-off in control bear, you just flash an ruu in bootloader? Is that right?
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I rooted mine 10 minutes after I got it out of the box. If you end up not liking it, you could always trade or sell it. If you try to exchange it in the 14 day period Verizon charges a $35 restocking fee. If you have issues and want it exchanged just call customer service and tell them you have already tried multiple factory data resets and the problem persists. Just go s-off and enjoy it.
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Thanks for the help. I really dont have any issues with root and s off. I was just looking for some second opinions. If the phone has warranty issues I feel I can get it back. So root on day 1
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you just flash an ruu in bootloader? Is that right?
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Just need to create a nandroid containing at least boot image. ControlBear, IIRC, reboots you to recovery once completed, so you can then restore boot. As it does all the work from the boot partition.
@OP
Wait about a week. Any defects should show within that time.
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Ya I know. I'm going to s-off soon since the ota will be out somewhat soon. I just saw no point in s-off with no official radios to flash and flashing kernel in bootloader and fastboot is no big deal to me. When I got my rezound, s-off was still somewhat uncommon but now it isn't. I really want to have everything figured out first before I do it and make sure I understand everything before I attempt so I don't end up like these other people posting "ahhh I bricked my phone with s-off!!!!" Even though they really didn't and just made a mistake due to ignorance or not paying attention. After you obtain s-off in control bear, you just flash an ruu in bootloader? Is that right?
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After you obtain S-Off, what you do next depends on what you want to do with your phone. If you want to upgrade/downgrade the radios, hboot, and firmware, go ahead and flash an RUU in the bootloader. The 3.13 and 3.14 leaks are fairly stable, though I had better luck with the 3.13 radios (which are the same as 3.11). You can then reinstall your recovery (for example, use a PH98IMG.zip to flash AmonRa back on your phone), and restore a nandroid if you want. Otherwise you can just install a new ROM. Depending what firmware you're already on (leak or OTA), you may need to flash the appropriate file to get your nandroid backup to run properly, as the newer firmware changes the SD card mount points. But from now on when you do nandroid restores it will properly restore your kernel. Similarly most new ROMs are oriented towards S-Off devices, and will just require you to flash once in recovery and not go through the install kernel in bootloader process any more.
Edit: You probably have already read this, but do not unlock your phone again after getting S-Off. You can't get back to the "Locked" status without redoing the S-Off procedure. Either flash one of the modified Hboots, or simply flash the PH98IMG.zip version of your recovery of choice. I'm on the stock hboot and did the latter.
Do it right meow!
How long will it take you to find a paperclip?
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BTW you guys really get into some detail. All he asked was how long he should wait. You guys are like typing out books and ****..
I'm on the fence here guys and need some either reassurance or confirmation of my fears/concerns.
Let me start by saying i'm borderline pissed off that I pay for a Sprint contract and yet VM is getting ICS possibly far before Sprints EVO 3d...This is a large driving force behind wanting to root.
So anyways here are my concerns..
-It's a VM build...does this cause adverse affects?? Lower priority?? ETC??
-I Roam most of the time and use a custom PRL. Is this possible with the ICS ROMS??
-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS. I'm not including app incompatibility here...more or less saying everything working that would work if we had an official ICS release.
Additional questions..not really concerns..
-Is there any roms currently with Sense 4.0 that are fully functional as This would be nice considering we'll never see it officially.
-Can I get better performance??
Lastly, If I do decide to root where do I start...I see tutorials but they say from hboot such and such etc..however I have no idea what I have on my phone to know what tutorial to use...I just got it 2 months ago, and i've fully OTA updated it. I came from an optimus v to sprint evo 3d...I had my optimus rooted and had custom roms on it.
I say Root, but I always root my phones.
You need to find out what hboot you are on, take back cover off, remove battery, put battery back in, cover back on, then hold power and down volume rocker. You will get to a white screen and it will tell you which hboot you have. Since you say you have OTA updated, you are likely on 1.5.
You should go through the downgrade process to get you on 1.4 which will allow full s-off and be the simplest route for flashing firmware/ROM's.
I have been using the VM ICS leaks since they came out and the Dev's did their
thing on them and I haven't had anything not work. I am using MeanROM ICS and Mike keeps it updated pretty regularly.
Whatever you do, do not install the VM firmware file you may see posted. It is unnecessary and will likely cause issues.
There are no ROM's that have fully working Sense 4.0 + ICS + all other items(3D Wimax).
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-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS.
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If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
zcink said:
If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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I do recommend you root. The custom roms beat the snot out of the stock.
As long as you use a Sense based ics Rom, everything works. I take 3d pics and video and just watched a 3d YouTube video just to check.
While they are not yet as refined as the Gb roms, everything works.
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Two biggest benefits of rooting regardless of the phone:
1) Full system backups in recovery.
2) The ability to remove all carrier crapware.
Now, there are several other benefits, such as upgrading to more updated ROMs that will eventually not be available for this phone (it will never officially receive Android 5.0 or Sense 4.0).
As for fully functional, I'm running the Booster Shot port with Sense 3.6. Silky smooth and fully functional, including 3D.
If you choose to root, fully read and understand the process so you don't brick your phone. Get your HBOOT versions (mentioned in a previous post in this thread) and root accordingly.
Definitely boost in performance even if you don't go with ICS. I compared my rooted 3d with my roomates 3d and my 3d runs so much faster it seems like it isn't even the same phone.
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I would recommend root, since you have a lot of options to choose different ROMs.
No Sense 4.0 ROM is working correctly. There are issues with 3d and with call drops, what is more important I think Anyway, most ROMs using Sense 3.6 run ok.
I also have the benefit of having daily contact with my rooted evo vs my girlfriends not rooted evo... Mine phone is way faster at everything.... Even before I went to meanrom ics....
The difference is night vs day...
If you really want to see the performance of your phone, the way it should be most definetly Root it.
I haven't done it myself but I'm 100% positive google will find you a list of benefits from obtaining root...
And btw even tho its a little weird and in beta my favorite thing about ics is google chrome... It's just an awesome phone browser, just what stands out in my mind atm.. ask me tomorrow and ill prolly say something different.
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If your on the fence, don't do it. If your going to commit to modding your phone, you have to know 100% what you're up against. For most, that's bricking your phone in a certain way so you can downgrade it. Than getting the hboot down through a tool in a LINUX distro. Than going through ruu than using revolutionary. And lastly flashing a recovery. It's not difficult
As long as you know what you are up against.
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My two cents:
Root it.
Backup your stock system, flash an ICS rom. If you don't like it, simply restore back to the original setting. You can still add tweaks and goodies not available to the non-rooted.
The beauty of being rooted is it's yours, totally yours, too make how you want it.
Root, root, root!
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another vote for root.
zcink said:
If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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exactly...every sense based rom is fully functional with 3d also...this is a one way street to root....root...backup your rom...flash...any chance you don't like you can always return to your previous state...unrooted...since there are no drawbacks except the fact that you have to setup all over again at a new rom, can't see a reason not to....with these guys here after all it's child play to root and to reverse it so no worries...
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What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
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OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
zcink said:
I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
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OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
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Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm only on sprint roms.
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Thanks for all the replies, I'm still debating this though mainly because i'm wondering if there would be benifit to waiting till the official spring ics comes and then letting devs release some roms based on that one instead of the virgin mobile one.
I'm thinking then we could flash the sprint firmware and possibly that updated firmware would be a plus, to performance.
Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
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Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
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No performance hit as far as I can tell. With the custom roms, my performance has vastly improved.
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Ok, so I just checked and I'm on hboot 1.5. Fully stock, fully updated as stated. Can someone point me to the threads and steps I need to take to do this?
Edit: I'm only asking for verification on steps/threads to use as I do not want to mess up and use an outdated tutorial or something and f up my phone. I just want to take every precaution to ensure I do not end up with a brick, and I follow the exact steps Needed for my situation. Not trying to make anyone angry that I'm asking for something I could search for...I just trust you guys to point me to where i need to be more than i do myself searching the correct tutorial for my situation.
Also when on the optimus v i used clockwork mod recovery...I'm assuming this isn't the recovery to use for this phone? And also this five minute wait to edit my post is frustrationg >< lol.
All you need to do is go into the development threads and read. I'm 59 years old for Christ sake, and figured out how to root my phone by reading the first few "stickied" posts. Took all of 15 minutes to get hboot 1.5 removed and hboot 1.4 with s-off installed.
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Well yeah, Not to flame you but the amount of time you've been thinking about doing it and getting advise if you should or not, I would think you'd be doing some reading on how to do it.
If you get stuck, there's plenty of people to help you out.
Just make sure you know enough first so you are confident in doing it.
I'm already rooted.
I already did the htc dev unlock.
Why do I need S-Off?
arozer said:
I'm already rooted.
I already did the htc dev unlock.
Why do I need S-Off?
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yup u needs it.. who wouldnt want s-off!!
the main advantage of doing it is future-proofing, because there's always the chance that HTC might patch the exploit used to gain S-Off.
on the other side of the coin, there's the risk of bricking, but considering there's a method to un-brick the phone, it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to bring back if it bricks.
as it stands, right now there are no big advantages or differences between S-Off and the HTC unlock, because kernels can be flashed from recovery, and even the radios can be updated. I personally was HTC Unlocked, but waited until the Unbricking method before taking the plunge for S-Off, and worked the first time.
good luck!
arozer said:
I'm already rooted.
I already did the htc dev unlock.
Why do I need S-Off?
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Honestly, you probably don't need S-OFF considering we can flash radios without S-OFF. The only advantage is flashing unsigned .zip files through the bootloader, and most of the time you are going to be flashing from recovery anyways, so in all reality, you probably won't need it. I suppose if you don't like seeing tampered plastered all over your bootloader or the red HTC warning message when you boot your phone, then sure, S-OFF is needed to get rid of that stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5VU8VGGNJY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This guy has some interesting things to say about the whole root concept and he mentioned something about cyanogens idea of removing root but leaving the system open for the user
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miguelfp1 said:
the main advantage of doing it is future-proofing, because there's always the chance that HTC might patch the exploit used to gain S-Off.
on the other side of the coin, there's the risk of bricking, but considering there's a method to un-brick the phone, it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to bring back if it bricks.
as it stands, right now there are no big advantages or differences between S-Off and the HTC unlock, because kernels can be flashed from recovery, and even the radios can be updated. I personally was HTC Unlocked, but waited until the Unbricking method before taking the plunge for S-Off, and worked the first time.
good luck!
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but if youre rooted, doesnt that effectively takes you off of the htc upgrade path. its like with the 3d, as long as you were bootloader 1.4 then you were good, because roms werent going to upgrade you to 1.5. or am i missing something?
kellybrf said:
but if youre rooted, doesnt that effectively takes you off of the htc upgrade path. its like with the 3d, as long as you were bootloader 1.4 then you were good, because roms werent going to upgrade you to 1.5. or am i missing something?
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your point is correct, but also stuff may always happen, so S-Off is kind of a protection layer for us, at least that's how I look at it
nonetheless, what's been previously said is true, no much difference or benefit to it right now
Even with S-OFF you can still run a stock RUU and it would overwrite the bootloader with one that is locked. OTA updates-same thing. That's why when you see devs posting stock, rooted ROMs, any bootloader updates are usually removed from the .zip file.
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arozer said:
I'm already rooted.
I already did the htc dev unlock.
Why do I need S-Off?
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Without s off, all those roms can be installed without issues? Because I see some roms says it needs to be s off. Kindly advise.
I did the unlock and thought it was pretty cool, when i flashed roms i always had problems though , once i did the s-off, i have had no problems whatsoever flashing anything. I'm still learning this stuff but from what i have figured out, it's the way to go. Facepalm and unlimited.io have methods for going s-off, facepalm i hear is pretty quick and only takes a couple minutes. And if you don't like it, viperboy just released a way to put your phone back to stock, but you have to be s-off to use it. It's worth it.. Painless and you get so much more out of these phones... Just make sure you back up with twrp.
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I did the unlock and thought it was pretty cool, when i flashed roms i always had problems though , once i did the s-off, i have had no problems whatsoever flashing anything. I'm still learning this stuff but from what i have figured out, it's the way to go. Facepalm and unlimited.io have methods for going s-off, facepalm i hear is pretty quick and only takes a couple minutes. And if you don't like it, viperboy just released a way to put your phone back to stock, but you have to be s-off to use it. It's worth it.. Painless and you get so much more out of these phones... Just make sure you back up with twrp.
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unlimited.io do not support hboot 1.27.
Take the ota and then s-off...
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I'm S-On and have no problem installing any roms whatsoever... even non-sense. Just make sure you read before installing roms. Never saw any advantages to S-Off so I never made the plunge.
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My 2 cents:
Do you need s-off? No.
Do you need root? No.
Do you need a smart phone? No.
You don't NEED any of those things. I have friends that still use regular phones that are pretty far from smart phones, and they will never switch...and they are happy.
I have friends that have smart phones and have them rooted, but not s-off. They will never s-off...and they are happy.
I have friends that have smart phones, have root, AND are s-off. They will never go back to the way it was before, and they are happy, but are wondering why people don't just save themselves the trouble of having to do things the long way with time wasting that could be applied elsewhere.
I even have friends that want to root, s-off, but because they don't know how to read and/or follow directions, they ruin their phone. And they are.....well, they're not happy, but that's beside the point.
S-Off if you want to, if you want control of your phone with less hoops. If you don't want to, its OK...if the ROM doesn't already compensate for the people who are s-on, then there are others to use.
Up to you. Kind of a shame to go 3/4 of the way down the rabbit hole and then give up, though.
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Well after having my last phone break (not being insured and no upgrade till May) I was left unable to afford a new phone. However my girl decided she wanted to get me a phone (and by that I mean, she pretty much yelled at me that she was buying me one no matter what, lol).
I was looking at This, the Galaxy SIII, and the Galaxy Note II. However being that I am a long time HTC fan (I have owned all HTC devices minus my Galaxy S Epic which broke WAY too fast) I opted to get this.
Should hopefully get it tomorrow (Should have been today but USPS "missent" my package), and I guess I was just curious as to how it will run things like the more "power intensive" games (Nova 3, GTAIII, Fpse) or will I need to get a Kernel that I can overclock?
(and I know I will find out tomorrow obviously, but I like to have all my ducks in a row file wise prior to getting the device, so I already have a rom picked out and all my roms setup so I can just drag and drop and be good to go with setting up the device)
Jamio88 said:
Well after having my last phone break (not being insured and no upgrade till May) I was left unable to afford a new phone. However my girl decided she wanted to get me a phone (and by that I mean, she pretty much yelled at me that she was buying me one no matter what, lol).
I was looking at This, the Galaxy SIII, and the Galaxy Note II. However being that I am a long time HTC fan (I have owned all HTC devices minus my Galaxy S Epic which broke WAY too fast) I opted to get this.
Should hopefully get it tomorrow (Should have been today but USPS "missent" my package), and I guess I was just curious as to how it will run things like the more "power intensive" games (Nova 3, GTAIII, Fpse) or will I need to get a Kernel that I can overclock?
(and I know I will find out tomorrow obviously, but I like to have all my ducks in a row file wise prior to getting the device, so I already have a rom picked out and all my roms setup so I can just drag and drop and be good to go with setting up the device)
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You shouldnt have problems running that stuff, mine doesnt at all and its on the stock CM10 kernel
Runs all those games with ease, on stock even. Only games I have trouble with are gameloft, but that's their fault. They can't optimize games for any tegra or adreno powered device. This phone has the power to run everything well for sometime to come.
Right on. Thanks for the heads up guys.
Really glad to hear it since I had to run the Galaxy S at 1.3/1.4GHz to get GTA to run without any lag time (which of course caused the battery to drain WAY too fast)
Just figured I would post an update.
I for one have NEVER been happier with a phone. Can't believe I even doubted getting the LTE. The phone is super fast (even without overclocking it).
Right now I have it on HBoot 1.12 (S-On) with CM10 and while I am sure I will S-Off it at some point, right now I don't see a need for it.
You made a good choice. I just picked up my EVO LTE last week and I can't hardly put it down, much to the dismay of my wife (I rooted it shortly after I got home with it-HBOOT 1.12, no S-off....yet). I came from the OG EVO.
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You guys are definitely lucky in getting hboot 1.12. Even though there is a downgrade method now. I'm just curious as to why you are waiting to s-off your phones?
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You guys are definitely lucky in getting hboot 1.12. Even though there is a downgrade method now. I'm just curious as to why you are waiting to s-off your phones?
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+100 S-OFF makes life SO MUCH easier
metalfan78 said:
You guys are definitely lucky in getting hboot 1.12. Even though there is a downgrade method now. I'm just curious as to why you are waiting to s-off your phones?
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I need to look over Lazy Panda more. I'm concerned with the brick issue some people have had-that, and I've never used Linux or Ubuntu.
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FinZ28 said:
I need to look over Lazy Panda more. I'm concerned with the brick issue some people have had-that, and I've never used Linux or Ubuntu.
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I never used ubuntu either I did brick but ran the unbricker while watching the video posted on unlimited.io on which commands to use and worked like a charm as for running lazy panda just follow post 2 in the lazy panda thread to the letter and you should be fine
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I just have not had the time to do it yet. Will probably do so tomorrow.
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the lazy panda method is really very simple... just make sure you follow instructions .. and you should have no probs
I got bored so I am updating my SDK Manager right now then I am going to S-Off this thing.
And I am now LazyPanda S-Off
Was actually super easy (though it had me worried for a minute there). Gave me a slight error with the QHSUSB Drivers, and took 91 seconds instead of 30, but it ended up alright.
Now to see what I can do with this thing being S-Off, lol.
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And I am now LazyPanda S-Off
Was actually super easy (though it had me worried for a minute there). Gave me a slight error with the QHSUSB Drivers, and took 91 seconds instead of 30, but it ended up alright.
Now to see what I can do with this thing being S-Off, lol.
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Congrats make sure you flash the lazypanda hboot
Pm me if you have any questions.
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Thanks buddy, I appreciate it. Right now just looking for a good ROM (Trying MeanROM ICS v6.0 right now).
Aside from that just looking into the benefits of being S-Off over S-On. I'll let you know if I need any help or have any questions though.
Just got my LTE saturday as my upgrade from the og evo. I never rooted or played around with any of that with the og evo, but i decided to give it a shot with the lte. Right now i have hboot 1.19 (merely because i got a tad bit confused by meanrom's explaination of needing the latest firmware, so i used a 2.13 RUU).
Ive read through all the terminology and faqs for rooting 101, but still have quite a few questions:
1. In my work i use unix irix quite heavily, dont necessarily program in it, but i can navigate my way around directories, and run quite a few different search commands and the such. How similar is linux and ubuntu (sp?) to unix and irix?
2. S-off, it seems like it is a deeper form of rooting allowing you even greater access to the os. This seems like it more would benefit a dev, not necessarily someone like me who is just getting his feet yet? Since i am s-on, what cant i do that someone who is s-off can or vice versa?
3. With firmware 2.13 i have hboot 1.19. How exactly are these two related?
4. Also, much like question # 2: i understand that someone with hboot 1.15 or 1.19 cant necessarily get s off, unless you follow yarrpirates walkthrough to downgrade, but what is really the difference between 1.15 and 1.19 or between 1.19 and 1.12, besides the obvious s-off/s-on difference?
I would really like to learn more about rooting, so any information would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
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Here ya go, read through this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869377
billypilgrim said:
Just got my LTE saturday as my upgrade from the og evo. I never rooted or played around with any of that with the og evo, but i decided to give it a shot with the lte. Right now i have hboot 1.19 (merely because i got a tad bit confused by meanrom's explaination of needing the latest firmware, so i used a 2.13 RUU).
Ive read through all the terminology and faqs for rooting 101, but still have quite a few questions:
1. In my work i use unix irix quite heavily, dont necessarily program in it, but i can navigate my way around directories, and run quite a few different search commands and the such. How similar is linux and ubuntu (sp?) to unix and irix?
2. S-off, it seems like it is a deeper form of rooting allowing you even greater access to the os. This seems like it more would benefit a dev, not necessarily someone like me who is just getting his feet yet? Since i am s-on, what cant i do that someone who is s-off can or vice versa?
3. With firmware 2.13 i have hboot 1.19. How exactly are these two related?
4. Also, much like question # 2: i understand that someone with hboot 1.15 or 1.19 cant necessarily get s off, unless you follow yarrpirates walkthrough to downgrade, but what is really the difference between 1.15 and 1.19 or between 1.19 and 1.12, besides the obvious s-off/s-on difference?
I would really like to learn more about rooting, so any information would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
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Lots of questions, bear w me.
#1) The linux and Unix file system are pretty much identical. All of the commands u would run will be the same. Haven't run Unix in awhile or linux for that matter but linux was built from Unix. And really man, u won't need any knowledge in linux to s-off. The directions are set up so easy a monkey could do it. Those monkeys are pretty smart tho. Rivals some humans. Lol
#2)S-off is not just for devs at all. Really, for u being so new to everything u should s-off because it makes things easier/run into less problems. S-off compared to hboots 1.15-1.19 allows access to all partitions not just some like root only. Read the "dont panic" thread for more in-depth explanations.
#3) The last ota (over the air) update from sprint/htc updated the firmware to 2.13 and the hboot to 1.19. U just have the latest stock firmware. Not much else to it. U just need to downgrade for soff like u would with 1.15 (the hboot/ota update previous to yours).
#4) Last I heard there was really no difference other than the patched exploit that was used to obtain s-off on hboot 1.12. U really must not worry yourself about such things. The hboot is just the bootloader that is like the bouncer for a club. He denies u if u don't have the correct attire (md5) or are a forever alone neckbeard (pass key verification). Their may be some added tools to the newer hboots, but it really isn't anything u will need, or need to worry about since u aren't going to be a dev.
It may sound scary to u at first and u don't want to hurt your new baby. To be perfectly honest though, the people who have issues fail to follow instructions and don't read thru most of the thread.
Just read until ur feel comfortable with doing it. U may still be nervous, but it is worth the sense of accomplishment at the end. Based on all your questions so far I believe u will be just fine.