So I am toying with the idea of purchasing Tasker. At the moment I use two separate apps to put toggles on my homescreen and to manage various profiles based on day/time. I really like the idea of using a single app like Tasker to handle both of these needs but I am concerned about battery life. For those of you who have used Tasker on your SG2, do you see any major battery drain? I know that battery drain is dependent on things such as gps, wifi, etc. I am only talking about simple Tasker tasks such as profiles based on day/time and simple toggles (wifi, BT, lock, etc. I assume that using Tasker instead of 2 separate tasks could save me battery right?
i have tasker (although not installed on my SGS2, yet). It really does not kill battery and its easily one of the best apps that you can purchase. I highly recommend it.
Just wow learning curve on using Tasker to do the cool stuff. Best to start off downloading other people's profiles to appreciate all that Tasker can do. As you figure it out it makes it easy to tweak their settings than to start from scratch on your own.
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+1 more for tasker here. I haven't really set up profiles yet on my SGSII, but I used it for some simple stuff on my Aria for a long time (silencing when plugged in at night, stuff like that) and never really saw appreciable battery drain.
You may or may not see more significant battery drain from tasker if you set up profiles based on GPS location and you have either frequent GPS location checks setu-up (this frequency is configurable) or if you are trying to check GPS in areas where you can't get a signal. (you can also configure how long tasker tries to get a GPS signal before timing out, iirc).
yeah, there is a pretty big learning curve to setup the more complex profiles. But with a half a brain, you can figure out most of the profiles you need. Dont hesitate buying tasker. Its the best.
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I finally got around to installing Tasker and while I really like it, I immediately experienced battery drain of about 5% per hour at idle! I only have 5 simple profile set up (change volume at various times of the day) and 3 widgets. Before Tasker, I was getting 0.5% per hour battery drain at idle. Any other SGS2 owners out there experiencing the same thing?
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I finally got around to installing Tasker and while I really like it, I immediately experienced battery drain of about 5% per hour at idle! I only have 5 simple profile set up (change volume at various times of the day) and 3 widgets. Before Tasker, I was getting 0.5% per hour battery drain at idle. Any other SGS2 owners out there experiencing the same thing?
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unless you have a profile set to poll wifi access points, or gps location, there is no way that tasker by itself is eating that much battery.
agreed. I had tasker installed for a while on my captivate and if it was draining the battery, it was maybe 1% per hour or two. And I had profiles that polled wifi and bluetooth connections. Maybe there's a bug with the SGS2 though. I dont use tasker on this phone but its possible, i guess.
suggestion: disable your profiles and test out how much your battery drains with tasker installed and no profiles active. You can probably also test your battery with tasker not installed to make sure its not another app.
I am experiencing similar problems with my phone now, I haven't yet figured out if it is tasker that is causing probloems or the particular version of custom ROM I am currently using. The profiles that I have now check for "wifi connected" and "cell near". Could that be draining my battery? What settings should I use in "Monitor" tab in preferences to get best performance?
This thread hasn't seen the light of day in two years. We try and let older threads die, for the simple fact that if they were dormant for that long usually there's a reason. Maybe try talking to the tasker dev?
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Guys, don't ask me to search again... i really did... and didn't found any answer....
i am new on android.... and it's regarding the battery's life time...
i hope someone give me an answer here....
there're a lot android user saying about advanced task manager, juicedefender, v6 supercharger, cell standby, phone idle.... anyway... i got no answer at all....
few people using ATaskMan and improve their battery life, but few people said it just drain my battery... anyway...i don't see any improvement using that....
i used juice defender to keep the connectivity.... better than keep it all the time...
didn't see any improvement also....
i used setCpu too... keep it low at night.... i don't really know if it works....
all i want is keeping the data on as long as possible.... even on sleep.... to keep apps like viber, whatsapp, im+ and sometime to sync the apps like weather, facebook, twitter and email...
weather, facebook, twitter and email... these apps were set to manual... not automatic....
i don't call and messaging a lot.... just stay on in internet...
i don't play games a lot... maybe few minutes....
so my questions here...
1. did the apps on background really drain up the battery? because they are, who using v6 supercharger didn't have a problem with battery.... and it's not like ATaskMan... it's didn't kill the apps at all.... just manage the background apps...
2. did the widget also drain the battery? some people said so....
3. keep the data on all the time? i read in this forum... they keep their data on.... but, still having their phone more than a day... moveover... some guys get it over 2 till 4 days...
if it's about ROM, it should be same with other, who uses the same ROM...
and if it's about hardware... it should be from the first time i bought this phone....
i just want keep my phone as long as possible with data on.....
anyway.... i still keep tracking what drain my battery the most....
hope someone come with answer for this....
and sorry for my english.....
1. That depends on which apps are running in the background, but when your device is in standby it should go to "sleep", but if you've set some apps to update every 15 minutes, the phone will wake up (without turning the screen on of course) to update them. This will naturally use some battery. And remember that Android can handle all processes itself. You don't need to kill them yourself. That will actually decrease batterylife since the phone has to start the apps again everytime you kill them. A task manager is nice to have if an app is going rogue.
2. Widgets do use battery, and the widgets who are set to automatically update itself uses more battery (Facebook, Twitter, Weather etc.)
3. "This tip is one that seems counter-intuitive, but you can save a lot of wear and tear on your Android phone's battery if you tell it to keep the Wifi radio turned on and connected while the phone is sleeping. Your phone needs a lot of juice to keep pinging those cell towers, and even more to transmit data to and from them. Wifi radios use much less power because of their design, and they don't have to keep searching for a better access point. It's the way cellular data communication was designed, and it's a necessary evil.
But what if you're spending all day (or all evening) in one place, connected to Wifi? If you tell your phone to shut off Wifi when idle, it bounces back to cellular data (be it 2G, 3G, or 4G) and starts sucking down the electrons again when the screen shuts off. That's no good, and easy to fix:
Open the advanced Wifi settings by pressing the menu button, then Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi settings, and tapping the menu button again. You'll have a choice to either Scan, or go Advanced -- go Advanced.
Tap the Wi-Fi sleep policy entry, and you'll get a pop up dialog with the choices you see in the picture above. Choose Never.
Now even when your phone goes into standby mode, you'll stay connected to Wifi and be able to get mail and messages without turning the cell radio back on and trouncing your battery life. And for the times when you're not in an area with a Wifi connection, just shut Wifi off, either through the menu or with a handy toggle widget. Your battery will thank you for it."
Source: AndroidCentral
Follow the two guides below, this will help you out.
1. Complete Guide to Maximizing Your Android Phone’s Battery Life
2. How to Save Battery Power on an Android
And of course the easiest solution that is often overlooked:
Carry a spare battery and/or charger.
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1. That depends on which apps are running in the background, but when your device is in standby it should go to "sleep", but if you've set some apps to update every 15 minutes, the phone will wake up (without turning the screen on of course) to update them. This will naturally use some battery. And remember that Android can handle all processes itself. You don't need to kill them yourself. That will actually decrease batterylife since the phone has to start the apps again everytime you kill them. A task manager is nice to have if an app is going rogue.
2. Widgets do use battery, and the widgets who are set to automatically update itself uses more battery (Facebook, Twitter, Weather etc.)
3. "This tip is one that seems counter-intuitive, but you can save a lot of wear and tear on your Android phone's battery if you tell it to keep the Wifi radio turned on and connected while the phone is sleeping. Your phone needs a lot of juice to keep pinging those cell towers, and even more to transmit data to and from them. Wifi radios use much less power because of their design, and they don't have to keep searching for a better access point. It's the way cellular data communication was designed, and it's a necessary evil.
But what if you're spending all day (or all evening) in one place, connected to Wifi? If you tell your phone to shut off Wifi when idle, it bounces back to cellular data (be it 2G, 3G, or 4G) and starts sucking down the electrons again when the screen shuts off. That's no good, and easy to fix:
Open the advanced Wifi settings by pressing the menu button, then Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi settings, and tapping the menu button again. You'll have a choice to either Scan, or go Advanced -- go Advanced.
Tap the Wi-Fi sleep policy entry, and you'll get a pop up dialog with the choices you see in the picture above. Choose Never.
Now even when your phone goes into standby mode, you'll stay connected to Wifi and be able to get mail and messages without turning the cell radio back on and trouncing your battery life. And for the times when you're not in an area with a Wifi connection, just shut Wifi off, either through the menu or with a handy toggle widget. Your battery will thank you for it."
Source: AndroidCentral
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thanks a lot.... i just read all article from androidcentral.... i thought, i found all my answer there... searching in the google doesn't really bring me to the best source... it's just too many choice....
anyway... i got another website to spend my time
febycv said:
Follow the two guides below, this will help you out.
1. Complete Guide to Maximizing Your Android Phone’s Battery Life
2. How to Save Battery Power on an Android
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thanks for another source...
it's really helpfull...
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And of course the easiest solution that is often overlooked:
Carry a spare battery and/or charger.
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yeah.... it's the last choice.... carring them is not the problem.... im just kind person who can't leave my stuff behind on the socket... and i spend too much time out there... where doesn't really have socket... except... library... plug the charger for 5 minutes, doesn't really help.... thanks anyway....
The android OS has a built in task manger so using ATK or ATM is actually worse than if you don't.
But honestly rooting has made all of the difference. If you have time for it READ about what it means to root and the how-to's, youtube instrutional videos, etc.... just get your feet wet a lil bit. When/if you feel like it is something that you might be interested in, go ahead and do it. You wont regret it and you will diffidently be able to improve battery life with titanium backup which allows you to freeze apps that you dont need running.
Warning 1) you might become addicted to flashing ROMS... and 2) if you screw up your phone you can't blame anyone but yourself.
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The android OS has a built in task manger so using ATK or ATM is actually worse than if you don't.
But honestly rooting has made all of the difference. If you have time for it READ about what it means to root and the how-to's, youtube instrutional videos, etc.... just get your feet wet a lil bit. When/if you feel like it is something that you might be interested in, go ahead and do it. You wont regret it and you will diffidently be able to improve battery life with titanium backup which allows you to freeze apps that you dont need running.
Warning 1) you might become addicted to flashing ROMS... and 2) if you screw up your phone you can't blame anyone but yourself.
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1. I did already.... waiting the new rom everyday....
2. Yes it is....
I need root to back up my phone... and it's already rooted... and there're a lot useless program coming with stock rom... need root to clean it also....
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at least for my phone: regarding setcpu, you can raise the minimum frequency, increasing performance while hardly affecting battery life (at stock i had 245/600; now i have 480/600). turns out that if you set the minimum frequency low, it will take some juice to ramp the cpu back up
just a little tip
Just wanted to add: besides titanium backup, I'd also recommend gemini app manager and better battery stats. You can use gemini to edit an app's autorun permissions (ie, automatically starting at boot) for those apps you don't, can't or shouldn't uninstall/freeze. If you're having issues with your phone not sleeping better battery stats will help you identify what's keeping your phone awake.
Lastly, there is only so much you can do to optimize your battery life. In the end you're going to have to sacrifice some functionality for better battery life or vice versa. You just need to find the right balance you can live with.
What is the longest running time did you had on your phone? I reckon batteries are getting thinner and thinner and will not last long.
Apps are there to help you avoid manual work. If you switch of automation on all the apps then you will have to spent time and do it all manually and on the other hand how much life will you save lets say %15. Not worth it!
Best solution is to stick your handset to the charger while you are going to sleep!
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at least for my phone: regarding setcpu, you can raise the minimum frequency, increasing performance while hardly affecting battery life (at stock i had 245/600; now i have 480/600). turns out that if you set the minimum frequency low, it will take some juice to ramp the cpu back up
just a little tip
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i set it 300/300 at night... it's from 00.00 til 06.00 which i don't touch it.... i don't know, if it is a good idea.... i guess, background apps wouldn't using cpu so badly.... would it?
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What is the longest running time did you had on your phone? I reckon batteries are getting thinner and thinner and will not last long.
Apps are there to help you avoid manual work. If you switch of automation on all the apps then you will have to spent time and do it all manually and on the other hand how much life will you save lets say %15. Not worth it!
Best solution is to stick your handset to the charger while you are going to sleep!
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im trying tasker right now... 15% fair enough for me.... without losing data....
i am almost 12 hours out there every day.... i wanna figure out, how to spare the battery life... cause i wanna buy tablet.... which consume more battery than a phone....
What app (not just category but actual app) do you find is the biggest drain on your battery?
I get about 12 hours on a full charge and see about a 1% drain every 5-7 minutes!
I am about to put a new ROM on my Note and since I tend to run it loaded with apps that I collect, I was wondering if anyone has a list of biggest amp-drainers.
Some apps have settings that let you modify their behavior (K9 Mail comes to mind) but settings can be a bit confusing when it comes to balancing utility to power drain.
So...that being said...
Give me a list of apps that you run that you know kill your battery anyway some that are so stingy they get the Android Scrooge Award for battery use.
Also...
what are some of your best general power-saving tips for power-users?
Use a black background.
Turn off all your radios if you're not using them.
Leave your GPS off and just use WiFi for locations if you need to. If you don't use locations, turn them off.
Anything with a light background will drain your battery quicker on an AMOLED. Always use black wherever you can.
Never let your battery go below 20% charge.
Don't use a task killer - it was necessary for the older versions of Android, it's not now.
Set your Facebook/Twitter/Weather/Stocks etc. to sync every 3, 6 or 12 hours, as opposed to instantly (I still sync mail instantly).
These are a few of my runtime-prolonging tips. As for apps, anything that pulls data, displays a lot of white or moving pictures, uses a radio/GPS, and runs constantly will be the biggest drain. Things like turning off notifications in Tapatalk/XDA etc. can save you a lot of juice.
If you want to know exactly what is going on with your battery, you can look in the settings to see what exactly is draining the battery (sorry, I cant remember exactly offhand where it is).
Personally, I use an app called Battery Widget Pro by 3c that gives me more information than I ever wanted to know about exactly what is going on with my battery (just look at the screenshots on the market).
For me, the biggest drainer is the screen and phone calls but I only have a few apps installed.
All of those are good, and I want to add that under advanced in Wifi, there is an option to turn off Wifi during sleep mode.
Usually it is three choices, Always on, On when charging only, and off.
Make sure to turn it off during sleep if you don't need it. That can be a battery drainer as well.
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All of those are good, and I want to add that under advanced in Wifi, there is an option to turn off Wifi during sleep mode.
Usually it is three choices, Always on, On when charging only, and off.
Make sure to turn it off during sleep if you don't need it. That can be a battery drainer as well.
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Do keep in mind tho that rogue apps or those that are scheduled to perform network activities will fall back to cellular data if wifi is off.
BeyondPod is one such app, I have it on a schedule to download new podcasts at certain times of the day and if wifi is off, it will use cellular data if available. However, BeyondPod does have an option to only download on Wifi, but not all apps offer this.
My Galaxy S3 Battery Life Sucks Please Help! 15% After Only 7 Hours.
I’ve been having this same problem sense I got my phone about 2 months ago but now I’m finally just tired of it! My phone is rooted, using the stock ROM.
What I do to help battery life:
- Every morning I hold the home button and kill multitasking and kill all running aps in the background then I open autokill which automatically kills running apps in the background that are not needed.
- I have power saving enabled
- Easy Battery Saver running
After 7 hours of use I’m already at 15% and through out the day I barley use my phone. Its like this just about everyday. I use my phone about an hour of the entire day of web surfing and Facebook usage etc. The rest of the day I’m only texting and maybe taking 3 or 4 phone calls that last 10 mins. How much battery could that possibly take? A flip phone can do that and last 3 days..
I used my iPhone 4S much more during the day then I do the galaxy S3 because the S3 has terrible battery life.
On my iPhone I would have about 22% after everyday of using it for 11 hours down time = sleep and 4 hours of usage = texting, , phone calls, web surfing, games etc.
I don’t play games or watch movies on my S3. Only texting, instagram, facebook, websurfing which is about an hour a day usage. Also a couple minutes of GPS usage on some days.
What can I do to fix this? I don’t want a bigger battery that will make my phone any thicker.
I have pictures below showing usage through out the day and usage under battery.
Please help!
Thanks!
You screen is using most of your battery. Check the brightness levels. Are they on max or close to it? Switch it to auto
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You screen is using most of your battery. Check the brightness levels. Are they on max or close to it? Switch it to auto
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My brightness is always set to lowest possible expect while walking from to and from class. Ill post a little more pics maybe these can help figure out the problem problem?
zak9494 said:
My brightness is always set to lowest possible expect while walking from to and from class. Ill post a little more pics maybe these can help figure out the problem problem?
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Oh thats easy.
You're phone is always "Awake". It doesn't go into Deep sleep like everyone elses. If you take a look at the first picture you linked with the graph, it shows that the phone is always AWAKE.
For comparison, I have attached mine as a reference but something is DEFINITELY keeping your phone awake.
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Oh thats easy.
You're phone is always "Awake". It doesn't go into Deep sleep like everyone elses. If you take a look at the first picture you linked with the graph, it shows that the phone is always AWAKE.
For comparison, I have attached mine as a reference but something is DEFINITELY keeping your phone awake.
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From pics ive posted can you tell which apps are not letting it go into deep sleep?
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From pics ive posted can you tell which apps are not letting it go into deep sleep?
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Can't really see anything that stands out per say...
If you see anything on that thread or any apps on your phone that you think could be keeping it awake, just uninstall them. I would suggest trying to remove them a few at a time just to narrow down which ones are keeping the phone awake.
Also, apparently this app helps a lot (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy) and Better Battery stats should give you a better idea of which apps use the CPU while your phone is trying to sleep.
Oh and remove any task managers you have installed.. Those tend to be the worst offenders.
One last thing, found this on another forum:
- Don't use an automatic task killer--not even the one that comes with the phone. Reboot your phone and look at what's running. If anything that you've installed is running and there's no reason for it, then uninstall it and find an alternative that behaves. Ignore any stock apps that run on boot as I've found them to be more or less benign.
- Weather widgets, live wallpapers, news/social feeds, any app or service that you use that runs--do without it if you can. If you can’t do without it, lengthen it’s refresh time.
- Don't use antivirus
- Set your WIFI sleep policy to never. The default is "turn off when screen turns off". This will cause the wifi to reconnect every time you open the phone. From any Home Screen select Menu/Settings/Wireless & Networks/ and then use the Menu button to see some new options - select Advanced. Then select Wifi Sleep Policy and set it to Never. Home key to return to Home Screen.
- If you have access to wifi, leave it toggled on as it is more efficient than 3G. Wifi consumes less battery power than 3G.
- I leave GPS toggled on too by the way. Apps use it as needed. When I'm done with Maps or an app that uses it, I'm sure to return to the home screen so GPS can stop. Under wireless settings turn on "Google location services" so that an app is able to use network resources to get your location instead of GPS. I have "VZW location services" turned off--don't know why that option is even there. By the way, I increase the speed of voice output > text to speech > speech rate because I like the directions to get spit out faster. That saves a bit of battery. Turning off the display and just listening for directions help. Also, often I just get the directions and then exit back to the home screen: GPS uses so much battery I try to get it over with ASAP.
- Under Accounts, click on any account listed and turn off sync for any items that you're not interested in syncing. For example, Google Books if you don't use it. Don't use Backup Assistant--I prefer syncing my contacts with Google. You don't need both. Also go into your contacts > menu > display options > backup assistant > UNCHECK. Also do contacts > menu > more > settings > contact storage > and select your Google account and "remember this choice"
Are you on the 3G network a lot or weak signal areas? Is your phone hot around the bottom? If yes to both, most likely it's because of the system attempting to find a better signal. When I was swapping out my SIMs, in various countries, I only have 3G network and my battery fully drains in 7hrs at idle. The only way i can go a whole day is to place my phone into airplane mode or wifi only to conserve the battery.
my battery runs at-most 13 hrs........................
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My Galaxy S3 Battery Life Sucks Please Help! 15% After Only 7 Hours.
I’ve been having this same problem sense I got my phone about 2 months ago but now I’m finally just tired of it! My phone is rooted, using the stock ROM.
What I do to help battery life:
- Every morning I hold the home button and kill multitasking and kill all running aps in the background then I open autokill which automatically kills running apps in the background that are not needed.
- I have power saving enabled
- Easy Battery Saver running
After 7 hours of use I’m already at 15% and through out the day I barley use my phone. Its like this just about everyday. I use my phone about an hour of the entire day of web surfing and Facebook usage etc. The rest of the day I’m only texting and maybe taking 3 or 4 phone calls that last 10 mins. How much battery could that possibly take? A flip phone can do that and last 3 days..
I used my iPhone 4S much more during the day then I do the galaxy S3 because the S3 has terrible battery life.
On my iPhone I would have about 22% after everyday of using it for 11 hours down time = sleep and 4 hours of usage = texting, , phone calls, web surfing, games etc.
I don’t play games or watch movies on my S3. Only texting, instagram, facebook, websurfing which is about an hour a day usage. Also a couple minutes of GPS usage on some days.
What can I do to fix this? I don’t want a bigger battery that will make my phone any thicker.
I have pictures below showing usage through out the day and usage under battery.
Please help!
Thanks!
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Welcome to smartphones. The calls alone will drain the battery. Seven hours isn't horrible for all that. It isn't a flip phone.
why your phone is always awaking?
mattwarr said:
Welcome to smartphones. The calls alone will drain the battery. Seven hours isn't horrible for all that. It isn't a flip phone.
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maybe you have to flash a new rom
If you want, you could try to flash a custom ROM. I had the same problem that you have, and I flashed Revolutionary S5, and now my phone lasts minimum two days with the same usage, maybe a bit more.
Too bad Tony Stark hasn't gotten involved
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Titanium Backup will assist a little bit. When you do a backup of an apk it will tell you if the application is running. You can find all kinds of sneaky apps this way. Many of them were ones I didn't use and didn't really want. That will probably yield minimal results, though. Keeping a black background helps on my S3. Colors, widgets, and live backgrounds will drain the battery. Turn off the menu and back key lights. You know the buttons are there. Turn off all haptic feedback and key press sounds. Of course, try to lower the screen brightness. Leaving my data and sync on hasn't caused me any problems, but you will save some battery by turning them off when not in use. I also read a post about hidden menu options that ran even when they weren't meant to. That was an issue that destroyed battery life. Some ROMs also have settings for data connection type. You'll save power by telling your phone to not worry about gaining signals like 4g, 3g, etc. As other people have said, try out some ROMs that make battery life a big priority.
it CAN get better
if you want to have a good battery life, use custom rom and kernel (or a modified stock like omega rom), watch out for wakelocks + apply these settings:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/guide-complete-guide-battery-saving-t2495276
also, interesting info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/post-battery-stats-t2621654
I've had my Z5C for about 10 days. I'm relatively happy with it, except for the battery life. Much worse than my old Z1C. Less than 24 hours of battery; my Z1C always got 24+. So, last night I tried the Stamina mode for the first time. Very UNIMPRESSED! I must be missing something.
1. In Stamina mode I still loss 15% of my charge in 7 hours.
2. With Stamina mode on it takes a couple minutes for my Wi-Fi to reconnect once I turn the screen on. Hardly usable.
What am I missing? Are any of you happy with the battery life? Does it improve over time? If you use Stamina mode, what are your settings and what is a typical battery discharge amount over an 8 hour period of non-use? Suggestions?
Thanks.
Im quite pleased with the battery life. 2-3 days with abt 4 hrs screen on time. I have disabled few services and applications from settings. There is a thread about it. Last night battery dropped only about 2%
For starters, disable location and untick "Scanning always available" under Wifi>Advanced Settings. Disable photo analyser service under All apps. Try these out first
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For starters, disable location and untick "Scanning always available" under Wifi>Advanced Settings. Disable photo analyser service under All apps. Try these out first
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Thanks for you reply. Some questions/points:
1. What am I losing if "Location" is off? For instance, GPS, weather?
2. Can you explain what "Scanning always available" does?
3. Couldn't find photo analyser service. Any thoughts?
4. I've removed set of widgets created with Zooper Widget Pro. I've read that it's a battery hog; any opinions?
5. I'm using an old weather app, BeWeather, because I like its widgets. I did notice that under "Location" BeWeather showed high battery use, while the Google apps listed showed low battery use. Any weather apps with widgets suggestions that might have low battery use?
Again, I appreciate your reply.
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Thanks for you reply. Some questions/points:
1. What am I losing if "Location" is off? For instance, GPS, weather?
2. Can you explain what "Scanning always available" does?
3. Couldn't find photo analyser service. Any thoughts?
4. I've removed set of widgets created with Zooper Widget Pro. I've read that it's a battery hog; any opinions?
5. I'm using an old weather app, BeWeather, because I like its widgets. I did notice that under "Location" BeWeather showed high battery use, while the Google apps listed showed low battery use. Any weather apps with widgets suggestions that might have low battery use?
Again, I appreciate your reply.
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I might be wrong on some points, if this changed over the years, but...
1) If android/google isn't searching for location constantly, it will remember the last known location. So only your approximate location will be known, and apps that use it more specifically (like google fit, running apps etc.) will be less effective.
2) It means that your phone will connect to Google servers, even when Wifi is off. As far as I know.
3) It should be in your list with all apps. If it's not, I have no clue where else you should look.
5) I use "transparent clock & weather", and I never ask it to update his location constantly. Instead, I use a fixed location. Even when I'm 100km away from here, the weather will still be about the same, so for me that's enough.
Can't you look at the battery usage stats and disable anything that is near the top that you dont need?
I find the normal drain while using it is about the same as even my old phone. However standby is much much better. I used the phone sparingly and it lasted me about 2.5 days. On average, its lasting me about 2 days. On heavy usage days, I only get a day out of it. I havent had it very long so more testing is needed. There was only one instance where it drained really fast. I was in a plane on the ground. It seems that the reception is rather poor so it has to try alot harder to maintain a signal.
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Can't you look at the battery usage stats and disable anything that is near the top that you dont need?
I find the normal drain while using it is about the same as even my old phone. However standby is much much better. I used the phone sparingly and it lasted me about 2.5 days. On average, its lasting me about 2 days. On heavy usage days, I only get a day out of it. I havent had it very long so more testing is needed. There was only one instance where it drained really fast. I was in a plane on the ground. It seems that the reception is rather poor so it has to try alot harder to maintain a signal.
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Thanks for your reply.
I looked at the power management stats. Oddly, the battery usage is:
Screen 34%
Cell standby 8%
Phone idle 6%
Android system 4%
Android OS 4%
Nothing else is listed. Under App Power Consumption it shows "Currently no apps to report". I don't feel that I'm a heavy user; minimal calls; minimal browser use; minimal texts. I have a weather widget with clock on both screens I've set up. The weather is set to update every 30 minutes. I've stopped using a couple widgets, as mentioned above, but I still don't see a significant improvement.
When you say "standby is much much better", are you talking about Stamina mode, or something else?
Thanks again.
Unless you use google maps, location doesn't matter all that much. Also if you need it in any app, you will be prompted to enable it. Once your work is done, you can turn it off again. Location actually does eat a considerable amount of battery.
About "scanning always available". It means that the phone will constantly be looking for wifi even if the wifi is turned off. This causes standby battery drain so it's good to leave it off.
I'm not sure about the widgets though as I haven't used them.
Lastly, photo analyser service should be in Settings>Apps>All Apps. Disable it to improve performance and battery life as reported by many users here and on talk.sonymobile.com
Cheers
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I might be wrong on some points, if this changed over the years, but...
1) If android/google isn't searching for location constantly, it will remember the last known location. So only your approximate location will be known, and apps that use it more specifically (like google fit, running apps etc.) will be less effective.
2) It means that your phone will connect to Google servers, even when Wifi is off. As far as I know.
3) It should be in your list with all apps. If it's not, I have no clue where else you should look.
5) I use "transparent clock & weather", and I never ask it to update his location constantly. Instead, I use a fixed location. Even when I'm 100km away from here, the weather will still be about the same, so for me that's enough.
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Re: item 3. I had already disabled.
Any more suggestions? I turned on Stamina last night; still lost about 2% an hour. At the rate I now see (including using Stamina at night), I might get 36 hours of usage per charge, and I'm not a heavy user. Nowhere near some of the reports I've seen. I've turned off location, turned off weather updates for 6 hours of the night, turned off scanning always available in Wi-Fi, disabled photo analyzer, and removed widgets that seem to be "on" all the time. Additional questions:
1. I noticed that I have "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" set to always; is that OK, or do most of you have that off?
2. Are you all using the regular Stamina mode or the Ultra mode?
3. What is your setting for "Queue background data"?
That's it for now. But I expect to have more questions until I see the 2-3 day range you all talk about.
Thanks.
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Any more suggestions? I turned on Stamina last night; still lost about 2% an hour. At the rate I now see (including using Stamina at night), I might get 36 hours of usage per charge, and I'm not a heavy user. Nowhere near some of the reports I've seen. I've turned off location, turned off weather updates for 6 hours of the night, turned off scanning always available in Wi-Fi, disabled photo analyzer, and removed widgets that seem to be "on" all the time. Additional questions:
1. I noticed that I have "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" set to always; is that OK, or do most of you have that off?
2. Are you all using the regular Stamina mode or the Ultra mode?
3. What is your setting for "Queue background data"?
That's it for now. But I expect to have more questions until I see the 2-3 day range you all talk about.
Thanks.
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Try another night with Network mode set to gsm only. Just a thought
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I actually lose 0-1% overnight (in 8 hours on an average) on GSM only. I usually keep it on 2G. So basically my overnight battery drain is negligible. Also, I don't even use Stamina mode
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Try another night with Network mode set to gsm only. Just a thought
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I actually lose 0-1% overnight (in 8 hours on an average) on GSM only. I usually keep it on 2G. So basically my overnight battery drain is negligible. Also, I don't even use Stamina mode
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Thanks for your reply. I've set the network to GSM Only. Seems to help a bit, but I'm still getting 2% battery drainage PER HOUR with Stamina ON! during the night. Again, looking at all the suggestions. The only one that I really use and would rather not disable is "Location". All of the apps under location show "Low battery use". I also prefer to have my screen brightness always around 90% (old age ). Can you tell me what widgets you have on your screens? I'm thinking I'll slowly delete each widget, if any of you think that'll help. I can live with 30+ hours of battery, but it's far from what I was expecting after reading the reviews. My Z1C had better battery duration.
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Thanks for your reply. I've set the network to GSM Only. Seems to help a bit, but I'm still getting 2% battery drainage PER HOUR with Stamina ON! during the night. Again, looking at all the suggestions. The only one that I really use and would rather not disable is "Location". All of the apps under location show "Low battery use". I also prefer to have my screen brightness always around 90% (old age ). Can you tell me what widgets you have on your screens? I'm thinking I'll slowly delete each widget, if any of you think that'll help. I can live with 30+ hours of battery, but it's far from what I was expecting after reading the reviews. My Z1C had better battery duration.
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I just have the walkman and clock widgets. Also, i switched wifi off before going to sleep or if it is switched on, i turn on stamina. Also, i have all sorts of sync disabled as i sync manually. My battery is nearly as good as that on Z3c (which is pretty amazing). Maybe some app is acting up on your part :/ I have nothing else to suggest man.
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I just have the walkman and clock widgets. Also, i switched wifi off before going to sleep or if it is switched on, i turn on stamina. Also, i have all sorts of sync disabled as i sync manually. My battery is nearly as good as that on Z3c (which is pretty amazing). Maybe some app is acting up on your part :/ I have nothing else to suggest man.
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Might be my weather app. It's set to update every hour. I'll try turning off the wi-fi tonight. Last night I lost 11% in 8 hours. Acceptable, but not great. Maybe I'm looking for too much.
Thanks again for your reply.
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Might be my weather app. It's set to update every hour. I'll try turning off the wi-fi tonight. Last night I lost 11% in 8 hours. Acceptable, but not great. Maybe I'm looking for too much.
Thanks again for your reply.
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Maybe it's the location plus the weather app and wifi hahahha. :'D
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Maybe it's the location plus the weather app and wifi hahahha. :'D
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Not the weather app. It's set to not update from 11pm to 5am. Tried the location off, no improvement. WiFi was off using Stamina. Something else is going on that uses 2% an hour no matter what.
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Not the weather app. It's set to not update from 11pm to 5am. Tried the location off, no improvement. WiFi was off using Stamina. Something else is going on that uses 2% an hour no matter what.
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Aaaand I've run out of ideas. Try gsam batrery monitor from the playstore. Let it run through the night. That should give you an idea of the consuming apps
Thanks for your reply. I turned off my WiFi last night; only a 4% total loss. Tonight I'll try both the WiFi off and stamina, in addition to your battery monitor suggestion. Getting close! ?
Lost just 2% over 7 hours tonight! Stamina on. But I think my problems were all caused by my Bluetooth. I have 2 speakers on either end of my place that were always on. I also had my phone's BT always on. I noticed that at times both speakers showed being connected at the same time. I suspect that BT was constantly connecting and disconnecting as I moved through the apartment. I've turned off the BT on my phone. Battery life much improved. It's been 21 hours since my last charge and I'm still at 58%.
Thanks to all who responded.
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Lost just 2% over 7 hours tonight! Stamina on. But I think my problems were all caused by my Bluetooth. I have 2 speakers on either end of my place that were always on. I also had my phone's BT always on. I noticed that at times both speakers showed being connected at the same time. I suspect that BT was constantly connecting and disconnecting as I moved through the apartment. I've turned off the BT on my phone. Battery life much improved. It's been 21 hours since my last charge and I'm still at 58%.
Thanks to all who responded.
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Aah finally hahahah
Hello,
I have the following Problem, while in Idle the phone is consuming so much battery, any help ?
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Which ROM release are you on?
I am on Stock Rom and have the latest ota 15.07
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Hello,
I have the following Problem, while in Idle the phone is consuming so much battery, any help ?
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There are quite a few threads on this already including what I wrote (pasted below).
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I had two types of standby battery drain - mobile data and wifi. I have fixed both of them through lots of trial and error. From my testing and looking on XDA at similar experiences of people on other phones, these are bugs in Android rather than anything Elephone can fix through updates (I'm on the latest 20160419 update).
I fixed the mobile data problem by creating Tasker profiles to keep the phone on 2G whilst it's connected to wifi. I can't post links yet but a search on XDA/Google will find you these profiles. Maintaining a 4G connection is unnecessary whilst on wifi, besides, some people have problems receiving calls on this phone whilst on 4G. If the phone is not connected to wifi (rare in London because it's everywhere even on public transport) 4G comes on. Best of both worlds.
The wifi drain solution sounds counterintuitive but it is simply to set it to 'always on'. With both of these measures, my standby drain has been 1% overnight for the last two nights and roughly 0.25%/hour during the day. Standby drain on 4G whilst moving around London with location on at least quadruples battery drain to around 1-2%/hour.
Some of my other settings will have an impact too. I find the auto-brightness calibration of the P9000 poor, so adjust brightness manually (which also saves battery life). NFC, bluetooth, etc. I only turn on when needed. I use Greenify and have all apps Greenified except Tasker, Textra, and Hangouts. I haven't Greenified any system apps except Google Maps. Location is always on but mostly device only (again counterintuitive, you'd expect it to be 'battery saving') unless I am moving around in which case I have a Tasker profile to automatically switch it to 'high accuracy'.
I tried to get Xposed working so that I could use Amplify too (see my other post) but that didn't work. Since I'm very happy with battery life now that's not that important anymore though it would be nice for the further tweaks it makes possible.
There are too many other variables to list and everybody's phone is set up differently. However, hopefully using some of the main big gains I've listed above you can fix your wifi drain specifically and improve standby drain generally.
Well, it's somewhat problably what keeps the phone awake, this occurs after factory reset, i already did the Tricks you've listed and on screen Features and so on are all off, there are no Apps who should keep the phone awake Cause it's happening Straight after factory reset so there are no other Apps..
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Finger print sensor or DT2W for sure. Disable them
On the latest ROMs it is the finger print sensor. Turn it off or go back to 20160810