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Whats the chance of getting CM7 on the SGS2?
Is the SGS a fully supported CM7 phone?
I'm a HTC man myself (DHD atm), but the SGS2 is looking mildly tempting due to the AMOLED screen, loud speaker and great .mkv playback capabilities as I watch quite a bit of video.
I am leaning more towards the Sensation due to the 16:9 qHD screen and the fact I've never been let down by a HTC device yet.
But I've really got used to CM7. Whilst I'm sure the Sensation will get CM7 on it... at some point, I reckon the SGS2 will get it first.
It's a big hmmmmmmmm from me atm
Very doubtfull you will see any custom roms on HTC now mate because there locking bootloaders
The device hasn't even been rooted yet but I'd say it's only a matter of time. If it's a deciding factor for you then hang fire but I'm actually quite liking touchwiz 4 and that's something I never thought I'd say.
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We will need scource
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Samsung is very good about releasing source, just check http://opensource.samsung.com they will post the source within a few weeks I'm sure.
sorry to ask this noob question, but why do you need cm7 on this phone? is it laggy? lacking features ?
NIK516 said:
sorry to ask this noob question, but why do you need cm7 on this phone? is it laggy? lacking features ?
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Because this forum is for developers and development of ROMs, otherwise why would you be on this forum
some people want root regardless as they like to tinker.
also enables useful features like
titanium backup / Clock recovery so you can easily backup/clone your phone state
overclock (speed) / undervolt (battery)
CIFs for mounting windows shares or presenting itself as a windows share (very useful esp over wifi, look ma no cables)
get rid of touchwiz and other preinstalled stuff (I haven't used touchwiz 4 but I like stock android and I'm a speed freak)
I never rooted/custom ROMed my nexus one (as I love stock android) but it was the first thing I did to my galaxy tab and will be the first on my list with any non stock android phone
vinokirk said:
Whats the chance of getting CM7 on the SGS2?
Is the SGS a fully supported CM7 phone?
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There's a chance it might get cm7 but it'll require a lot of work, the current sgs has cm7 but its still in alpha stage since samsung doesn't release the source for its proprietary drivers, everything has to be made from scratch(ie. time consuming). I don't think anyone whose working on cm7 for the sgs wants to do this again.
vinokirk said:
Whats the chance of getting CM7 on the SGS2?
Is the SGS a fully supported CM7 phone?
I'm a HTC man myself (DHD atm), but the SGS2 is looking mildly tempting due to the AMOLED screen, loud speaker and great .mkv playback capabilities as I watch quite a bit of video.
I am leaning more towards the Sensation due to the 16:9 qHD screen and the fact I've never been let down by a HTC device yet.
But I've really got used to CM7. Whilst I'm sure the Sensation will get CM7 on it... at some point, I reckon the SGS2 will get it first.
It's a big hmmmmmmmm from me atm
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all upcoming HTC devices will have locked bootloader, plus i strongly doubt we're going to see CM7 on SGS2 since Samsung doesnt release (or at least not so far) the source code of the drivers.
wait, does this mean no custom ROMs for SGS2 or rather they will just be less drastic modifications?
for example I don't think the galaxy tab custom ROMs use written from scratch drivers.
sorry new to custom roms.
There will be plenty of custom ROMS. Just not AOSP rom anytime soon.
Basically with AOSP you will loose a lot which includes all the multimedia capabilities ( ability to play many containers and codecs natively with hardware acceleration ), hardware GPU acceleration in browser, probably MHL link and HD recording.
There are very few people who will be ready to give up all this to get AOSP rom for this phone.
well it's rooted already isn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lVft5HoKP8
but re CM7 .. again ..why? i use custom sense roms for my desire but CM7 and it's god awful cam ... yeh ..no thanks.
vinokirk said:
Whats the chance of getting CM7 on the SGS2?
Is the SGS a fully supported CM7 phone?
I'm a HTC man myself (DHD atm), but the SGS2 is looking mildly tempting due to the AMOLED screen, loud speaker and great .mkv playback capabilities as I watch quite a bit of video.
I am leaning more towards the Sensation due to the 16:9 qHD screen and the fact I've never been let down by a HTC device yet.
But I've really got used to CM7. Whilst I'm sure the Sensation will get CM7 on it... at some point, I reckon the SGS2 will get it first.
It's a big hmmmmmmmm from me atm
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Man,never been a big fan of CM Roms,have moved to MIUI Froyo Rom{now with Formels MIUI Android 2.3 Rom},,tried CM many times but battery drain & other force close issues were in plenty.MIUI works best with my Nexus 1,,extremely fast,smooth,less battery drain ROM.
As far as Sensation goes,i hope it will be rooted,also it will be by June end when both SGS 2 & Senation will be launched in my region,so will have clear idea as to which one is getting more devs support{as xda support is what is most important for me rather than the phone itself}.
Have such a great time with N1.
NIK516 said:
sorry to ask this noob question, but why do you need cm7 on this phone? is it laggy? lacking features ?
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Not only Cyanogen,there are various different devs with their custom roms,but CM is used in most of the droids.
Samsung Galaxy S has a pathetic lag issue/faulty gps issue.
Even after so many lagfixes & workaround{in various roms},it still is very fragile.
Therefore you will definitely see people asking about SGS 2 lag issue or any GPS issue{hopefully GPS is great here in SGS 2 by default compare to quite pathetic in SGS}
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Very doubtfull you will see any custom roms on HTC now mate because there locking bootloaders
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That being said, I'm sure (hope) some boffin will get custom ROMs on there at some point!
steve228uk said:
The device hasn't even been rooted yet but I'd say it's only a matter of time. If it's a deciding factor for you then hang fire but I'm actually quite liking touchwiz 4 and that's something I never thought I'd say.
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I'm not a fan of Sense/TW et al, but I love ADW Ex. I know I can still use ADW Ex on the SGS2 but it would make me feel better inside knowing that I have a totally AOSP ROM ands not ADW running ontop of the TW stuff
NIK516 said:
sorry to ask this noob question, but why do you need cm7 on this phone? is it laggy? lacking features ?
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As I said, I'm a HTC fan, but one thing I am not is a Sense fan! I can only presume that will extend to TW, although I have never tried it. I also like to run my phone at 190dpi instead of the standard 240dpi that most phones run at. And with Sense at least, when you change to anything other than 240dpi, it does not like it one bit!
sun-drop said:
well it's rooted already isn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lVft5HoKP8
but re CM7 .. again ..why? i use custom sense roms for my desire but CM7 and it's god awful cam ... yeh ..no thanks.
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It's not rooted... it's bootloader unlocked. Not the same. Bootloader unlocked can lead you to root, root can't lead you to bootloader unlocking.
Hello ive brought the motorola atrix and i think its great but im afraid it has some flaws. Using a live wallpaper with golauncher gets everything laggy, the browser speed is awful. In somethings its lightning fast in others its even slower than other weaker phones. Im using the at&t atrix with the latest OTA update. Ah i forgot mention the touchscreen bug in games so called raindrop protection. I want to know if other roms like cyanogen mod would fix this issues. Because i cant believe they say that tegra 2 is better than an ipod touch 4g and in browser its slower. And will atrix ever recieve ice cream sandwich? Official or not? And i would be able to use webtop on cyanogenmod? Thanks!
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Hello ive brought the motorola atrix and i think its great but im afraid it has some flaws. Using a live wallpaper with golauncher gets everything laggy, the browser speed is awful. In somethings its lightning fast in others its even slower than other weaker phones. Im using the at&t atrix with the latest OTA update. Ah i forgot mention the touchscreen bug in games so called raindrop protection. I want to know if other roms like cyanogen mod would fix this issues. Because i cant believe they say that tegra 2 is better than an ipod touch 4g and in browser its slower. And will atrix ever recieve ice cream sandwich? Official or not? And i would be able to use webtop on cyanogenmod? Thanks!
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I'll try and answer some of these questions.
1) You should try using a custom kernel first of all, you should notice a huge difference in speed
2) Try using dolphin browser hd or opera browser and im sure your browsing experience will be much better
3) The atrix will receive ice cream sandwich for sure. Motorola is bound to release it for the atrix if it comes out before next july (which it will) as per the google handset agreement. The only way the atrix could not get ICS is if the hardware didn't allow for it. But the hardware on the atrix is better than the nexus S, and since that is getting ICS we are guaranteed our update.
4) Webtop on cm is being worked on
Thanks for the reply, ive been using dolphin and it is faster indeed. But yet not even close to ipod one. About the custom kernel can you point me to some instructions how to install it? Which relation it has with a custom rom? Thanks
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iphone and windows phone have hw acceleration. makes for better browsing and smoother everything. helps tremendously with battery too. hardware acceleration is something android is severely missing. let's hope ics brings it. it would breathe new life into even older phones.
Did the guys at google said sonething about it? I was hoping a stretch to fit feature so games with lower resolution would fit nicely and work too in bigger phones like atrix. I miss order & chaos so much :/
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Opera is lightning. It has hw acceleration
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I came from an iphone 4 and I love the ATRIX,
Then again I had many tweaks running lol but anywho try a custom rom, its like owning a whole mother phone now
I came from a Trash Zte Racer and an ipod touch 4g, and atrix is like the sum of their good parts. but in comparison to ipod touch i miss the game compability, display detail and speed =/ i dont think android is ugly nor "not usser friendly". its very intuitive too. ill try opera mobile. to see what it says, i just hope ICS brigs all those cool features plus the Android 3.0 and 3.1 features. I hope it be as tasty as a Real Ice Cream Sandwich. I was thinking abou custom rom. but nobody told me the diference of a custom kernel and a custom rom. and i'd like some features of atrix like the webtop, so ill wait a bit more till the cyanogen is stabilished to move to it.
Im tired of hearing about no rom support and no support in aftermarket (video calling ,ect) for our moto phones..i think it time for the moto "apb" phone users band together to help each other as they share much in common and in problems..
Thoughts?
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actually the binonic uses new internals ergo its very different.
*tear* was definitely a good idea though...
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actually the binonic uses new internals ergo its very different.
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then how about a "Pho-Trix" or "A-Tron" group ??
the atrix and photon share some commonalities, no ?
well most of the kernel code and tricks can be patched over, but as far as sharing, not so much. like on the g2 you can use dz radios kernels roms etc.. we wont have that due to the radios. hell even the nexus s and nexus s 4g cant share roms and its the same phone, just with wimax and cdma.
While Im aware their are MAJOR differences beween the atrix - photon - bionic (including a diffrent CPU in the bionic from the atrix & photon) there is some things in common ...
From how Moto locks to the the "webtop" and docks these phones have... to whatever we find in common.
Bottom line I just think we need to leverage whatever we can find in common ever if in just to group together to twist Moto arm on things or the after market support (It tick me, things like that not one of these phone is supported by skype video chat or even on a list to be supported)
These three sure have more in common than they do with HTC or Samsung phones
We have in common having some of the best hottest harware out there and we have in common a lack of software support for that harware
Unite and fight to unlock their potential. Im tired of HTC and Samsung trash talkers
At one point we had a few ports from the Atrix since it's so close. I know DKZ is busting his ass trying to get us CM9 and JB. But won't it be easier to port the Atrix versions of those ROMs?
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At one point we had a few ports from the Atrix since it's so close. I know DKZ is busting his ass trying to get us CM9 and JB. But won't it be easier to port the Atrix versions of those ROMs?
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I don't know, I was thinking the same thing, since they use the same processor, I definitely hope ports of official ics from other moto tegra 2 devices like the atrix or photon, would help with development here
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I don't know, I was thinking the same thing, since they use the same processor, I definitely hope ports of official ics from other moto tegra 2 devices like the atrix or photon, would help with development here
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the only difference between the atrix/photon/a500/xoom vs the dx2 is that it the other four have 1 GB of ram compared to the 512mb of ram the dx2 has
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At one point we had a few ports from the Atrix since it's so close. I know DKZ is busting his ass trying to get us CM9 and JB. But won't it be easier to port the Atrix versions of those ROMs?
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The CM9 from them is complied with the EXACT same build flags and the EXACT same board config as all of the other MotoTegra devices. The only difference is that we're locked. So I put the hijack in and after it's done doing it's thing, it works the EXACT same way as on the ATRIX. If we were to port it over from them, it would be at pretty same spot as we are now. Maybe even worse because it has the init tweaks for their device (including not having the Motorola users which we need). Also they are behind in their commits. They just get nightly builds because they are an official device. For being an unofficial device, I personally think we're doing pretty good. I might be a bit biased towards that response, but I do what I can.
hello guys , right now i'm a htc wildfire s owner and i'm looking to replace it with a new android device ( better hardware ) and iam very confused between 2 devices the Motorola Atrix 4g and the Sony Xperia Sola but i kinda like the Atrix because of this huge forum there is alot of Roms and stuff but i wanted u Atrix owners to help me explain some points
- i read here on xda that all the new Atrix devices well not be unlocked link here sooo is that true ?
- if i bought this device i think i'll unlock it after a couple weeks and if i wanted to know what isn't exactly working in the CM9 rom cuz it's my favorite and does toggling bluetooth and wifi force restart the device ( ohhh god i sufferd this issue with my wfs ) and does the HDMI port work with ICS based roms ? !!
- is there a webtop for ics roms ?
- in worst cases is CM7 fully working ? !! ( stable ) cuz i can't imagine my self stuck with the orginal rom
that's it for now, thank u guys in advance hope to to join u soon
The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! )
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Resolution of the screen is really nice but for me personally a little too high for a 4" screen.
But the main problem is the colours it produces. Blacks aren't completely black they have a slight brownish greyish look to them. The other colours in general look washed out. Doesn't bother me too much but when comparing to other phones the difference in colours is instantly noticeable.
The atrix hardware is nice. Will run anything you throw at it. We have a very nice stable cm7.2 rom
If I were you I would wait a little while longer to see if Motorola release official ICS for the atrix before buying one unless you don't mind sticking with gingerbread.
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Atrix is a very solid phone, and I would take it over the Sola.
You have GB/CM7 for now, and CM7 is very stable. ICS coming sometime in QTR 3...
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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Well the screen is also smaller on the sola, and it has a full set of sub pixels as well as the bravia engine.
The Atrix has a pentile matrix, so even though there is more pixel density, the pentile matrix makes individual pixels more visible.
Well since you're buying in egypt, there probably is a chance your local store has the initial-release stock of the atrix. But there is no garuntee, I bought a second atrix (for a friend), here in New Zealand a few weeks ago and it was unlockable,
I personally haven't tried ICS or JB because im more interested in a working phone (LOL), I don't like having to toy around with things that only work half the time and/or not at all, thats why I try to stay away from the roms until they're stable.....But still, support the developers for their hard work, even if you aren't using their roms just yet (they all look promising).
there are a lot of things not working in the CM9/CM10 roms, that even the devs can't list them all, and a lot of functionality is software-based because there is no driver support for hardware until next month or so, when we get the official ICS from Moto.
The phone works great on CM7 if you're willing to buy it now.
Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
if my Atirx will be broken, I Will buy another Atrix. This is one of the greates devices, fingerprint lock, webtop, and many more Especialy Tegra2 and 1GB RAM
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Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
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okay your totally right the Galaxy nexus is a great phone but comparing the prices here where is live the atrix sells for 2000 EGP and the nexus for 3500 EGP so there is a huge difference that i can't afford right now and there is also a thing that i don't like about all the nexuses ( except the nexus one ) which is there is no SD Card ..... i can't really imagine my life without an SD Card
I'm considering the same 2 phones. Which phone did you buy, the Xperia Sola or the Atrix?
Atrix
the Atrix is still one of the best phones I have ever owned, and the accessories are great and probably much cheaper now
Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Problem is that there will never be any official ICS from Motorola, and unless the Olympus ICS/JB kernel port is successful, it's likely there will never be any third party HW acceleration either. And yes, there is talk of Motorola releasing the code for the unfinished ICS kernel, but talk is one thing, but I wouldn't bet the farm on seeing it happen any more than I'd bet on a dead horse winning the Kentucky Derby.
Sure the device itself isn't bad, but the only support you will get for the device is dependent on a dwindling community. Honestly, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have just gotten something different, I would have ran away from the thing screaming like a little girl.