Hello all! I am really wondering about the camera quality of the new Neo V comparing to the normal Neo. As far as I understood, the Neo V has 5 MP while the Neo has 8 MP. Well 5 or 8 I don't care or contrary if the qaulity of the 5 MP is very good, no need for 8 MP.
Unfortunately it seams that nobody thinks it is necessary to make a test. Often in the specs, which are obviously copied from the Neo, they are mentioning wrongly 8 MP.
If somebody could tell me his experience or drive me to a review It would be highly appreciated!
I would buy the normal Neo but it is for my girlfriend and she insist on a white phone. The Neo in white would be perfect but I guess this does not exist?!
hapid said:
Hello all! I am really wondering about the camera quality of the new Neo V comparing to the normal Neo. As far as I understood, the Neo V has 5 MP while the Neo has 8 MP. Well 5 or 8 I don't care or contrary if the qaulity of the 5 MP is very good, no need for 8 MP.
Unfortunately it seams that nobody thinks it is necessary to make a test. Often in the specs, which are obviously copied from the Neo, they are mentioning wrongly 8 MP.
If somebody could tell me his experience or drive me to a review It would be highly appreciated!
I would buy the normal Neo but it is for my girlfriend and she insist on a white phone. The Neo in white would be perfect but I guess this does not exist?!
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I think it has the same 5mp sensor as the Xperia Mini (pro), so I maybe you should search for reviews of those phones.
But the quality of xperia mini pro is very poor xD
Cam pix quality is not good here...lots of noise in pix
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neo v(5mp) camera cannot be compared to NEO(8mp) but i am pretty sure that it is better than MINI PRO
Xperia Neo camera is very good. The picture quality is very nice. About the sensor of the camera, it could be better of course.
Anyway, the problem of most cameras even the 2-3-5 Mpix ones is the compression of the saved picture. The Xperia Neo compression of *.jpeg is quite high, the pictures are less than 1MB in 8Mpix mode. If you use a better app for the camera (like 360camera) you will see the real quality of the camera, never mind the 8Mpix.
Thanks for the feed back. So I guess the photo quality is not really amazing.
Is there any chance to get the normal Neo in white??
hapid said:
Thanks for the feed back. So I guess the photo quality is not really amazing.
Is there any chance to get the normal Neo in white??
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buy a Neo and then buy a white housing like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Ho...15i-Xperia-Neo-L-/310322539361#ht_1061wt_1037
sdk16420 said:
buy a Neo and then buy a white housing
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I head this idea as well, you think that that the housing is compatible? Can somebody confirm this? Thank you!
Why not just get a Silver Neo? Close enough to white and imho the best look for the Neo.
With the normal neo, you only can zoom in with 6mp, so it it isn't that big of a difference
silver color is the best for neo & neo v , it looks highlighted around the dark black screen
Based on the mode you select the configuration of the pixel is decided on neo , it is changed to 5mp for some of the modes
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im having a dilemma on what really should i get.. i've always wanted the mini pro because of its physical keyboard and it works best for me because i use sms most of the time, but the problem is the noise problem and the cases of unresponsive screen and capacitive buttons which SE has not resolved or did have a response yet. On the other hand after checking the ray forums, it seems that the ray among all the 2011 phones of SE has the least defect or almost perfect due to very few problems encountered..
please help me.. which i should i go for?
i have added a poll here just click there and if you have spare time just leave a comment thanks guys
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im having a dilemma on what really should i get.. i've always wanted the mini pro because of its physical keyboard and it works best for me because i use sms most of the time, but the problem is the noise problem and the cases of unresponsive screen and capacitive buttons which SE has not resolved or did have a response yet. On the other hand after checking the ray forums, it seems that the ray among all the 2011 phones of SE has the least defect or almost perfect due to very few problems encountered..
please help me.. which i should i go for?
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Go for xperia mini pro. There is only noise problem. The capacitive buttons have no problem and the screen is super responsive. It'll play and win games even before you touch it.
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Go for xperia mini pro. There is only noise problem. The capacitive buttons have no problem and the screen is super responsive. It'll play and win games even before you touch it.
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Mini nonpro
I was in your same situation, and I just bought the Ray... it's damnly sexy XD and the screen is fantastic. I had an x10 mini pro, the lack of the physical keyboard isn't that big problem, I suggest you to buy the Ray, I can't stop watching it, wiht the screen off is a cool item to see on your board, thin, fast, and cool ^^
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Xperia Ray. Had it for 2 weeks. Haven't had any problems with it.
The screen is also super responsive, contrary to what some have been saying.
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Xperia Ray. Had it for 2 weeks. Haven't had any problems with it.
The screen is also super responsive, contrary to what some have been saying.
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The lack of the screen responsiveness (for someone) is caused by the damnly strong screen protector (and almost invisible) already sticked on the screen, if u remove it it becomes really responsive, but it's wery well applied, so isn't that bad. Every protector I sticked myself on my phones wasn't the best to look (and in less than a week I had to remove it cause the angles didn't stay down )
sry 4 my bad english XD
@Ray users
How is Ray's battery life?? Is it 1200mAh like the mini/mini pro or more??
Because I think that battery life is really important.
I believe that the only disadvantage of the mini/mini pro is the battery life. :/
lately i've been considering the ray but still my heart says go for the mini pro, but will SE fix the noise problem? how about the battery life? which has the greater one? because my x8's battery life really sucks and there are reported issues of the mini pro having a poor battery life. Battery life is very important to me
the battery of the ray is 1500mAh, and its life is really good, not epic but still better than the most of android devices, it's a huge battery for a so thin device, so, it gets my approvation ^^ (the galaxyS2 has got a 1600mAh battery...)
First i got the Mini Pro because i thought writing with the hardware keyboard would be easier. To be honest, at least for me, that wasn't the case. It's 1/3 heavier than the Ray and the shape gives my fingers pain while holding it in portrait mode. As noted, the battery life is also shorter.
I ended up buying the Ray and ever since i didn't even look at the Mini until i found a use for it again; testing the unlock bootloader option (using test point method) which leaves DRM intact. Now the Mini lays in some corner again until SE brings the 2.3.4 update to germany.
Hope that helped.
Ray, its got high res display thinner bigger screen and better camera
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The Ray is WAY better phone than the mini
My only concern is the lack of auto-flash (light on or oight off only) but I guess the Arc's camera software could be transplanted to the Ray (crosses fingers)
guy i have the same problem. i cant decide wether to buy the xperia ray or the xperia mini(not pro). yet i own a k750i which has a perfect size for me. i dont know wether the mini is too small or the ray is too big. and the ray is very small. does it have a good handling? is the batterylife of the ray better than that of the mini? and will it give an update for the ray so that it has a flashlight for the camera? which phone woul you prefer.
thx for ur advices.
Ray = Better phone
Mini Pro = Small & Keyboard
Depends what you need. I hate bigass phones so Mini Pro is my choice
xperia mini pro
As my tagline,,, + for xperia mini pro - for xperia ray,,, i choose the xperia mini pro just because the fitur on it's phone is same as ray,,, it has 1ghz processor,,, bravia engine,,, 5 mp camera,,, it has secondary too hey it's cool man,,, different is the display,,, xperia mini pro only has 3" display but the phone has qwerty keyboard,,, so not too big problem i think,,,
sorry for my bad english
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As my tagline,,, + for xperia mini pro - for xperia ray,,, i choose the xperia mini pro just because the fitur on it's phone is same as ray,,, it has 1ghz processor,,, bravia engine,,, 5 mp camera,,, it has secondary too hey it's cool man,,, different is the display,,, xperia mini pro only has 3" display but the phone has qwerty keyboard,,, so not too big problem i think,,,
sorry for my bad english
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The Xperia Rays camera is 8MP, not 5 and the exmor sensor takes amazing videos at night even in VGA mode!!!
I got the Xperia Ray on the firt release date, and I throughly love this phone.
Wish there were custom ROMS for it out here though, would love to see what the devs can do with this little BEAST.
Only regret I have is that I should have chosen White rather than Pink.... I thought it looked more red at the time lol. Love the Phone non-the-less!!!
I had an X10 mini pro before the Ray, the thinness and the lightness of the ray makes it really confortable, where the mini pro wasn't much cause of its soap-size and weight
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I had an X10 mini pro before the Ray, the thinness and the lightness of the ray makes it really confortable, where the mini pro wasn't much cause of its soap-size and weight
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Lordsnow have you tested vignette or any third-party app to enable auto-flash ??
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Lordsnow have you tested vignette or any third-party app to enable auto-flash ??
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yup, but still isn't a real flash, the light is low. I'm looking 4 an apk with "superbrightness" or something similar^^ just to see if our led can do more light
LordSnow said:
yup, but still isn't a real flash, the light is low. I'm looking 4 an apk with "superbrightness" or something similar^^ just to see if our led can do more light
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Thanks for your reply, please keep me posted !!
I have a crush on this phone, even w/o a keyboard I find it sleek and head-turner
A chick magnet
I have the x10 and a desire z, I ended carrying the D Z only due to the autoflash and QWERTY, but this Ray looks sleek
Hi,
I am coming from Xperia X10i, and I am planning to buy neo v, just want to know how is it "in call volume" quality, I know its specs are same are Neo and Arc except Camera and Screen, beside that, how is it in general use comparing it with X10i.
Thank you
Xahid
Finally I bought Neo V, and I really like it, the build quality is great, sound is really impressive as compared to X10i, time to play
Thanks everyone who reply
One more member in your Neo V community
If you get money at your disposal then buy the Arc or Arc S
~Amazing Phones
Or else buy the Neo as it has a 8Mp camera and a sensor that the Neo V lacks
Thanks for the reply, but doesn't help !
The in call volume is pretty decent on my Neo V
On comparing the Neo V to X10
The Neo V is a win win
512Mb ram as to 320Mb of X10
HD video recording
Although the screen size of X10 is larger
Now, Thanks for the Answer.
Cheers
I don't have anything to really compare it too since it's my first smartphone (by the new definition of smartphone) but the Neo's reception and call clarity are great.
I'd get an original Arc, it's only €50 more expensive than the Neo, and it's thinner and it has a bigger screen. Or wait till January, maybe they will present a successor,
I only had the X10i for a few weeks before it bricked, but IMO the only downside of the neo is that it has a smaller screen. However, it is much easier to grip than the X10i even with a large hand.
The Arc/Arc S is thinner, but you lose the front camera and the face has a tendency to develop cracks. Of course, the neo V has a smaller camera, but it shouldn't be too bad at taking pictures.
hello! my friend bought xperia arc yesterday and i just updated it now to the latest firmware (2.3.4) and yes it does have sweep panorama function now.
I'm not really impressed with the form of the xperia arc, yes it has a big screen, but i'm having trouble holding the phone it's too big for me and it's not the type of phone that you can comfortably put inside your pocket.
I am also planning to buy xperia neo but with neo v around, it is so confusing.
One thing is for sure neo v is cheaper. But i like the red color of neo! SDCard is not an issue to me.
My only question is:
Does 3 mega pixels really make a difference?
.... sorry to hi-jack the thread! peace!
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hello! my friend bought xperia arc yesterday and i just updated it now to the latest firmware (2.3.4) and yes it does have sweep panorama function now.
I'm not really impressed with the form of the xperia arc, yes it has a big screen, but i'm having trouble holding the phone it's too big for me and it's not the type of phone that you can comfortably put inside your pocket.
I am also planning to buy xperia neo but with neo v around, it is so confusing.
One thing is for sure neo v is cheaper. But i like the red color of neo! SDCard is not an issue to me.
My only question is:
Does 3 mega pixels really make a difference?
.... sorry to hi-jack the thread! peace!
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Try and make a photo with tour friends phone, and look for someone with a 5MP camera phone and see for yourself.
SGS (5MP) vs. SGSII (8MP)
here they compare the Arc's (similar) camera to the HTC Desire Z
It's not just the MP difference. The neo has a Exmor R sensor, which allows for better low-light shots.
The Neo V is just Sony's way of making more people buy their flag ship model (The Arc/S) they screwed up when they released the Neo because it was soooo close to the Arc in Specs with the advantage of the front camera many people decided to buy the cheaper Neo instead for that extra feature alone.. the quick fix was to release a new Arc (the S with a slightly more powerful processor) and the Neo V with a 5MP non exmor-R sensor.. SE is trying to phaze out the Neo and pretend it never existed.. in a lot of countries only the Neo V is available now.
I bought the Neo because of the size, the 8mp Exmor-R Sensor, the front camera (for skype video calling) USB OTG (Thumb drives and usb keyboards etc) and HDMI (for playing angry birds on a 42" screen with a mouse!) I wouldn't buy a Neo V (Crap camera) and I wouldn't buy an Arc or Arc S (no front camera) even the new Ray is missing HDMI.. i don't know what sony is thinking.. but the Neo was the only phone they make with everything you could need... and now it is pretty much gone, glad I got mine when I did... just hope they continue to support it
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There's still the Pro as well.
SCHUMI_4EVER said:
There's still the Pro as well.
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But that's at least €50 more expensive, and thicker and heavier.
But it has everything you could want aside from dual core processing power. HDMI, check, 8MP Exmor R sensor, check, hardware shutter, check, hardware qwerty, check, front cam, check. It's as close as a phone currently comes to being the best of all worlds. Not having to compromise is worth the premium and slightly increased size and weight in my book.
GSMArena tested the Neo V, also it's camera.
And the Neo too. You could compare them there.
Hi,
Both Xperia Neo(MT15) And Xperia Arc S (LT18) has the 8MP Exmor r Sensor.
I have tested the both cams, But Arc S Picture quality is Better. Im Not sure why is that. Neo @ICS 4.0.4 , Arc S @GB
Neo Pictures are bit misty looking. Arc S pics are very sharp.
Can anyone give there opinion on this.
Thank you.
Maybe the settings are different.
I'm pretty satisfied with the picture quality.
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Hey guys,
So I have been playing around with the camera on my Z Ultra and I wanted to share a few things with you.
1. DO NOT use Superior Auto at all!!
It destroys pretty much every photo and has too much noise and no sharpness. It's just shockingly bad.
2. Always use normal shooting mode.
3. Become comfortable adjusting settings and actually getting to know the camera so you know when to use appropriate ISO etc.
4. Adjust ISO yourself and keep it at 400 or below. Use in combination with HDR for some very pleasing results.
Those are the 4 most important tips I think. Never ever ever use superior auto. The results with normal mode are very crisp and have lots of sharpness and contrast.
Overall the camera I believe is better than the Xperia Z. I own both and with the right settings, the Z Ultras images appear sharper.
I'll post a few examples.
Thanks and how are you all liking the camera so far?
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Here are a few examples.
1 taking with Superior Auto. The other taking with Normal mode on ISO 100.
Be sure to zoom.in on the bottle. You can see so much noise on the photo taking with Superior Auto.
Hopefully the results speak for themselves
If you want other photos I'll be happy to provide them.
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Way to much red in the photos taken with Superior Auto. Hopefully Sony will fix this in the next update. Btw, do you have the old Sony UI or the new one? (Old has a dark settings menu, while the new one is white)
I have the Old UI with the Bravia Engine 2.
New UI should be released in about a months time. Hopefully sooner
When are you buying your Ultra?
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
ScottishSwan said:
I have the Old UI with the Bravia Engine 2.
New UI should be released in about a months time. Hopefully sooner
When are you buying your Ultra?
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I'm buying it as soon as it hits the stores in Norway, which i believe is in the first week of september(?), like the rest of Europe.
Unless a different beast emerges from the depths of hell somewhere, that is (which i highly doubt, so ZU it is.)
Is it not the last week of September it gets released in Europe?
Its funny right now, I am slowly becoming to accept the Z Ultras size as normal and the 6.4" display as normal.
Even when I pick up a 5" device now, it feels so tiny!! Haha
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According to news sources, the release date for europe is september 6th.
I had the same experience when i got my Note. I came from the Desire HD with a 4.3" display, so the Note's size was ridiculous at that time, and i remember laughing my ass of when i unboxed it! Now? Not big at all. It's the same thing with the iPhone. I had the first gen. from the states and a 3GS, and they were really big at the time, but i just laugh at its tiny body now
When do you think phones will stop growing? I imagine 7" with almost no bezels at all will be the limit.
Unboxing my Ultra though, I did laugh when I seen it and my first day carrying it to work etc, quite a surprise haha.
Me personally I love big phones though, can never understand people who say they don't want anything bigger than 4.5 - 4.7 inches.
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Good question, and i have no idea, but i think we are near the limit now. IF the OEM's are planning on something even bigger, then i guess they'll have to make them without any bezels. That would be awesome and i guess a little science fiction looking
Something like this:
ScottishSwan said:
Is it not the last week of September it gets released in Europe?
Its funny right now, I am slowly becoming to accept the Z Ultras size as normal and the 6.4" display as normal.
Even when I pick up a 5" device now, it feels so tiny!! Haha
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I agree. I love big devices and my Xperia Z feels really tiny in comparison but one thing is for sure: I think the Ultra is the biggest size that a phablet can have and still being pocketable.
It fits my pockets but I notice that I can't carry a bigger device in them. The future development could be smaller bezels and therefore perhaps a 6,8 and perhaps even a 7 inch screen. I would even guess that the small tablets like the Nexus 7 will be replaced by phablets with the same screen size but smaller body (Ultra size).
So the future market will offer phablets up to 7 inch, then tablets starting at 8 inches and upwards followed by dockable "tablets" with screens of 12 inches and bigger. The small tablet is going to become a phablet - adding smaller bezels and a smaller body to the existing 7 inch screen and putting a dialer on is a straight forward development, especially when the Nexus 7 has connectivity to mobile networks already and the old Galaxy Tab could make calls.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 2014 edition of the Nexus 7 will be a phablet and that Sony are creating a partly new market with the Z Ultra.
Coming from iPhone 5, the UZ produces astoundingly bad overprocessed images. What's coming off the sensor is actually pretty good as you can see if you shoot in burst mode since that is the only setting that doesn't add a massive sharpness filter to the output. All other modes are crap. Massive over sharpening and then saving at what has to be 50% jpg quality. I don't get the mentality of putting in user defined ISO settings but forcing sharpening and jpg quality.
Taco Jackson said:
Coming from iPhone 5, the UZ produces astoundingly bad overprocessed images. What's coming off the sensor is actually pretty good as you can see if you shoot in burst mode since that is the only setting that doesn't add a massive sharpness filter to the output. All other modes are crap. Massive over sharpening and then saving at what has to be 50% jpg quality. I don't get the mentality of putting in user defined ISO settings but forcing sharpening and jpg quality.
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I do not have these issues. The only problems i have is when the phone is using Superior Auto.
Any other mode is perfectly sharp and noise free. I have also compared it to my iPhone 5 and the photos are very very comparable when you get the settings right.
Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
Xperia Z Ultra said:
Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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sounds like u need a crash course on photography instead.
Xperia Z Ultra said:
Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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1. Always set the camera to Normal mode.
2. Set the ISO at a maximum of 400 and not higher.
3. Use HDR on occasions where it might be needed.
On those settings you will get sharp images. Of course, you have to learn the camera a little yourself too.
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Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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Frankly, that's not how you learn stuff. What's wrong with just experimenting like normal people do?
Excuse Peppa pig, this was ISO 200, hdr with center focusing
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Looking good
What are your thoughts on the camera?
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Does it miss not having any kind of flash?
Super Chimp said:
Does it miss not having any kind of flash?
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For me personally, in the 10 days I have owned the Z Ultra I have not missed flash at all.
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Hi everybody, I am hesitating between the LG nexus 5 and the sony Xperia Z2.
I know the nexus 5 is a great deal but the Z2 waterproof and 20.7mp camera just make me hesitate for a 300$.
Is the camera of Z2 is superior to te nexus 5 to make a very big difference?
Somedoy have test the two? what is your review?
Thank you!
LeGenDz R3DeaDz said:
Hi everybody, I am hesitating between the LG nexus 5 and the sony Xperia Z2.
I know the nexus 5 is a great deal but the Z2 waterproof and 20.7mp camera just make me hesitate for a 300$.
Is the camera of Z2 is superior to te nexus 5 to make a very big difference?
Somedoy have test the two? what is your review?
Thank you!
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i found that the quality of the Z2 camera is much better than almost all other flagships of this year
the LG had extremly acurate focus but quality was poor and was only good in daylight, other than that the ui is quite nice and movies and games looks super sharp with that 2K display however that 2k display looks terrible sometimes and battery life isnt exactly stable, sometimes i can go days and some i can go hours, other than that its built nice and feels nice
the nexus 5 was quite good but wasnt amazing all around, literaly just android, nothing special aside the build quality and being the first to get android as it is a google nexus
The Z2 was quite good, the only problem i found was 4k recording has only ever hit 31mins ( avarage of 15 mins)
the Z2 although this damndable camera heating issues which SONY said they were working on fixing is quite anoying however the camera is great to play with and alows me to spew out near profetional quality shots
other than the camera the Z2 has style, a great firmware and a useful theme engine, aswell as also looking quit elegant, aside that the only other thing is that realy vibrant screen
take note i have the Z2 and also take note that the Z2 has faced majour manufacturing issues so the first 7 batches were terrible, (acording to sony they are fine now)