My God the amount of changes that Google made to Android 4.0.
If you guys have not had the chance to see what has been going on, check it out http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/ .
The total rehaul has a lot of to be excited about including the fact that the sdk is out and as I understand it, this will be released with it's source code for some sweet dev love.
GLEE!
We don't even have a working gingerbread , much less honeycomb and you are looking for ICS.
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We don't even have a working gingerbread , much less honeycomb and you are looking for ICS.
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Actually, there are plenty of working GB and HC roms. What made you think otherwise?
My understanding is that if the developers had the source code necessary for hardware acceleration, we would eventually have a fully working ICS rom. I think Viewsonic doesn't care enough to have someone work with nvidia to get the source code.
Once google releases ICS source code, we should have a usable ICS rom, at least
Mods please move this to proper section...thought the hammer was in effect?
modfrenzy said:
My God the amount of changes that Google made to Android 4.0.
If you guys have not had the chance to see what has been going on, check it out http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/ .
The total rehaul has a lot of to be excited about including the fact that the sdk is out and as I understand it, this will be released with it's source code for some sweet dev love.
GLEE!
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Really? you think this is the proper place to post this? Can we place read the rules!
Cant wait to flash this!, ill post back in a few with how it runs.
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Actually, there are plenty of working GB and HC roms. What made you think otherwise?
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Camera and hardware acceleration are still not there yet.
Yes, please move this to the proper forum, I think its called "posts from people with rocks in their heads".
hahaha sorry, I could not resist.
I'd be careful not to get too excited...this is very dependent on the few developers we still have, wanting to stick around even longer to try to get this to work. They might decide to move onto a different tablet also...
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Mods please move this to proper section...thought the hammer was in effect?
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Yeah, this topic kinda made me a sad panda...
No ones perfect. But come on. Have a little respect by not posting useless threads in the dev forums.
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Are we all waiting on the GB fix? It is nice to have a phone and not have it flashed every other day but it makes me sad that we are at a standstill. Thank you devs for everything that you have done thus far and I look forward to trying out new things when everyone comes back! I just really wanted to say that I miss you all!
... There was an update on a GB rom today... I mean a new Kernel was just released and the radio was just posted yesturday... I am not sure what you are talking about I feel the devs are quite alive here still tickin'. I feel like this post is going to get flamed.
I know what he means, it just feels dead in here. There probably is more behind the scenes, but for us common folk it seems dead.
Yea. I feel ya man. It feels dead. I felt the same way but the radio and some rom update seems Alive bbut I only want the new and still waiting for bamf.. but finally saw pr3 so gonna jump on that boat.
sent from my........(rebooting)..... thunderbolt.
I'm seeing lots of new ROMs and some with accompanying radios. Yesterday I installed the Chingy MR2 radio and Gingeritis IX, and all works great, no reboots.
Right now I'm downloading Th3ory of Ginger and and Th3ory3.0CandyV3, and those came with an MR2 radio, so it looks like things are all clear now? I gotta get my flash fix !
Feel free to start learning how to write and hack code, otherwise wait patiently and quit posting threads asking even if it's in a way that tries to be polite .
Unless you've had experience in writing code, it's hard to understand why things take so long so just imagine you're given a huge pile of parts and only half the directions to put it together (given the half from android and missing the half from htc, which htc was also nice enough to put in a format you cant easily read without translating). Your family keeps asking you "are you done yet??? You say no, it'll be done when it's done. So yeah. Working on a sense based android phone is sort of like that in the best way I can give a metaphor in non technical terms.
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Feel free to start learning how to write and hack code, otherwise wait patiently and quit posting threads asking even if it's in a way that tries to be polite .
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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It's okay to wonder, sure. However, dont you think someone would post something if there was something new in the developers forum? Developers might hate being asked when something will be out, but the one thing developers like to tell the world about is something new and shiny they just made.
Just from my experience, the only people that can really pester a developer about when something should be done are paying clients. Even those get annoying, because developers sort of have a pet peeve against giving a set deadline since things generally don't go according to plan, especially when you cant estimate the project scope for something like android.
Might not agree with me and I'm relatively new to developing on android and haven't coded/hacked anything impressive enough to show yet, but I have linux development experience on other platforms and can just say how developers feel from my own experience of working with clients and free advice/work I've given elsewhere.
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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X2. I agree
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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Wondering is fine but you might not have posted this if you read the dev forums. Plenty is going on so just your perception is at a stand still.
I just bought my Thunderbolt yesterday...and I'm coming from the Samsung Mesmerize. The difference in dev support is like night and day. Dev support was half the reason I bought the Thunderbolt. Keep up the good work guys.
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I am in no way saying the devs suck, I'm just saying that I look at the development section at least 4 times a day, and all the ROMs are repetitive.
I was just looking at the Sensation development and it seems like they're way ahead of us.
I love our devs and we would be nothing without them. I'm just wondering if anyone feels the same as me.
Plz don't flame.
Not enough ROMs?
PM the mods and ask wher'd the devs go.
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Not enough ROMs?
PM the mods and ask wher'd the devs go.
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No I'm saying that the ROMs are repetitive. Like there's nothing new. Most all the same ****. Not to say that they're bad or anything.
I agree. I guess it could be a mixture of the whole bootloader issue, and the way these forums were moderated. It greatly discouraged many developers. It could also be that with many other great phones coming out some devs may not have even gotten the EVO 3D to wait for the SGS2 or the next Nexus. Or maybe developing for this phone is harder than it was for the EVO, I don't know since I am not a developer. Hopefully well start seeing some ROM's such as Cyanogen and MIUI soon. Right now all of the ROM's are pretty much the same, just minor tweaks from stock. Not to take anything away from the hard work of those devs.
It's not because of the moderators. It's because there's no official AOSP builds yet.
I agree the only choice is sense 3.0 or senseless 3.0 with various tweaks thrown in. I just know of a few devs that left because of the poor moderating also. Im happy with what the forum has to offer though. The kernels are a huge plus for me.
don't forget that there were some Shipped S-OFF Sensations around before root, and also that their user base, being a global phone, is probably much, much bigger than ours.
nope i found my rom and my kernel and sticking with it until a aosp build is out
I'm hoping the next update will get more stuff going...
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nope i found my rom and my kernel and sticking with it until a aosp build is out
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What rom and kernel is that cheesy?
Agree I have that same feeling as well slow development but I'm sure great stuff will come
what does the sensation have that we do not?
why do you want aosp builds out that don't work (sound, camera, etc) out for general consumption?
don't you think there are enough d3rp threads for people who don't know how to read?
Check out my kernel. ive posted several updates over the past few days
OP - I totally agree. I seriously almost posted this exact same thing a day ago but was too scared to get flamed. And I'm not saying anything bad about our devs - I was mostly wondering if there are specific technical challenges that are delaying AOSP ROMs. It just doesn't seem like it took this long for anything to release on the OG EVO (or maybe I'm imagining). Also, I remember that I LOVED flashing new AOSP ROMs and kernels, broken camera and everything! That was part of the fun: I flash a ROM today and it makes my phone way faster but breaks the camera, then tomorrow I get the camera back but the system is unstable - either way, I have the most cutting edge firmware in existence every time I flashed a nightly. Please, Devs, if you are holding back because everything isnt functional, there are a lot of us dying to try new stuff out.
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what does the sensation have that we do not?
why do you want aosp builds out that don't work (sound, camera, etc) out for general consumption?
don't you think there are enough d3rp threads for people who don't know how to read?
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Some people have AOSP builds that are 100% working. They're just not releasing them until CM7 is officially brought over.
So I just went through the sensation development thread, I would say the first twenty. And I found nothing interesting. Not one cool, oh that's different ROM. Theyre was a aosp ROM that didn't have audio camera etc, please elaborate O.P. in what they have that we dont
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Some people have AOSP builds that are 100% working. They're just not releasing them until CM7 is officially brought over.
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Lol, what if I told you tge same about the 3d?
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Some people have AOSP builds that are 100% working. They're just not releasing them until CM7 is officially brought over.
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lol - since you ARE knowledge - please enlighten me.
People have ported them and kept them to themselves because of the moderators that we have. The mods for our forum make everything difficult. You see how the R3MIX kernel developer has left, and agrageben(no idea how to spell it) has almost completely left us.
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As an AOSP fan this is what I always see...a bunch of Sense roms and a few AOSP roms...sans AOSP.
Not to diminish the efforts of the Sense devs...Synergy is kicking serious ass on my phone right now and I'm loving it....but I can't wait for AOSP CM7/MIUI builds to break everything and build it back up. Not to mention the really extravagant kernels. Bring on the AOSP CFS/UV/HAVS/OC kernels with 80mb roms....
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Some people are waiting until CM7 is officially brought over and then they can release their AOSP kangs that are somewhat working.
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FTFY
10char
Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
Seriously? Are too lazy to look in development?
Catic said:
Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
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Hello. Yes, there is a fully working Android 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy S2 - you can download it (with instructions) here.
Enjoy.
try this http://www.samsung-galaxy-s2-android.com/index.html I have been using the beta 1.1 and its great. Give it a try you will not regret it.
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try this I have been using the beta 1.1 and its great. Give it a try you will not regret it.
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Does this have working portable hotspot and tethering? and does the phone read the sd card correctly for music and gallery?
everything is working for me except the video recorder and some video play back is choppy. i was surprised by how good its working for me. Battery life seems to be good to.
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Seriously? Are too lazy to look in development?
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No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
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No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
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Just read them, rather than ask other people to read them for you.
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No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
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Ignorance is bliss .
ICS Android 4 has not been released by Samsung .
XDA have a leaked ICS v KP8 Beat test rom not everything works that's why its not released .
You can install or one of the custom roms built around this . But its not for noobs and will of course void your warranty .
jje
I installed it 1 time and i was not happy whit it so i got back to official stuff xD
I found the latest CM9 build from Codeworkx to be stable enough as a daily use ROM. But I prefer TouchWiz to vanilla, so I switched back. It was very smooth though.
Bwahahaaaahahahahahaha Gold.
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Hello. Yes, there is a fully working Android 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy S2 - you can download it (with instructions) here.
Enjoy.
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Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
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Why would you want to go with 4.0 when 5.0 leaked already?! Find it in all its glory here.
buddy do not listen to any of the above posts...here is a link to what you need. it is stable and smooth..trust me its my new daily driver. Click here buddy it is the latest build of ICS Link for latest ICS build
You are all gits. Give him a break, it's a reasonable question due to all the different versions flying round.
Try this thread.
Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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Some good points, however a bit of mickey taking should be expected
I am running the CM9 ICS ROM and it is very good even at this early stage. Bits like audio out through the Sammy car dock aren't working (as you'd expect) and the video issues are annoying but not show stoppers IMO so I'm using this as my daily driver for now and will see what the battery life is like.
The only real way is to do a backup and try it out for yourself.
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Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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I'll tell you why.
More and more people are coming to these forums, and disregard everything that's posted. They jump in, create a thread, ask the same questions, and expect us to do the work for them.
If this specific user took the 15 minutes to read, he would quickly understand that there are two versions of ICS for the GS2 - leaked builds from Samsung, and CM9. He would also quickly understand that none of these are "full working ROMs".
However, seeing as he couldn't bother himself for 15 minutes to at least try and figure things out on his own, I definitely can't be bothered to write a valid response and to encourage that kind of behavior.
The video basically says "search before you post". He should search before he posts. It isn't funny, it isn't a joke, its actually pretty sad the video had to be created in the first place. But it was created, and it does exist, and so I'll use it whenever its appropriate.
XDA is not anybody's personal tech support - this is not a 1-800 number to dial if you're having problems or questions regarding your device. It is, though, an enormous hub of information that is readily available to anyone who's willing to put in the tiny bit of effort required to properly use it.
Soulicro well said put it in a nutshell .
Let Rolling star answer this same question 400 times in a month dont mind ten times a day .
jje
Hello, I currently own an SGH-i717 and would like to start rom developing for it and would like to know where to start. If I was a complete noob and compared to most of the people here I might be, how would I download 4.0.3 source code, use adb with my phone and etc etc. I find it all very interesting but I have no idea where to start.
I am asking for help with this specific device, then maybe onto porting for other devices but this model has a very sore lack of developers for it and since I own an ATT Note I would like to start the development for it regarding ICS and etc. Also why is there a lack of developers for this model's roms?
Thanks for any and all help regarding this issue and I am excited to get started developing for you guys!
I think you need something called android sdk
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So what do I win if I vote in the poll?
KangKilla said:
Hello, I currently own an SGH-i717 and would like to start rom developing for it and would like to know where to start. If I was a complete noob and compared to most of the people here I might be, how would I download 4.0.3 source code, use adb with my phone and etc etc. I find it all very interesting but I have no idea where to start.
I am asking for help with this specific device, then maybe onto porting for other devices but this model has a very sore lack of developers for it and since I own an ATT Note I would like to start the development for it regarding ICS and etc. Also why is there a lack of developers for this model's roms?
Thanks for any and all help regarding this issue and I am excited to get started developing for you guys!
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google search, ever heard of it before? and there is no lack of devs here unless you consider quantity over quality to be better
LOL
Underground_XI said:
google search, ever heard of it before? and there is no lack of devs here unless you consider quantity over quality to be better
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If that was the case, then why aren't there ice cream sandwich roms for att note?
and also, what do I search for? I'm very busy so I don't have time to mess with google all day. I need someone who is willing to work with me on educating a new developer, that maybe in turn had someone to learn from before them that appreciates a new (quality)developer.
To keep things simple here... Please refrain from jerky comments as I am trying to maintain progression in this area and again I am a very busy person so I would appreciate it if we kept this thread professional.
Thanks again for any help you care to give! I apologize for being a beginner, but everyone has to start somewhere... right?
kevinjgray88 said:
I think you need something called android sdk
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I already have the Android SDK, but I'm not sure how to use it for developing. I tried once and ended up frustrated with it. Are there easy to understand tutorials somewhere around here that might help a beginner?
I've managed to unbrick my captivate using ADB once but it was very foreign to me and I was kinda impressed I even pulled off sending it into download mode. Thanks for helping!
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So what do I win if I vote in the poll?
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Tell em what he's won Johnny!!! - A BRAND NEEW ICE CREAM SANDWICH!!!!! - ::And teh crowd goes wild!::
It's good to see someone with a lot of drive to develop, but the biggest hurdle isn't building AOSP from source. You need to get a working kernel that is compatible with ICS and all the Notes hardware. You can't google search how to do that. In reality it's almost impossible to do if you don't have extensive experience with that sort of thing.
We need the source code from Samsung for the Note and as far as I know, there is no source code out yet for the Note (for any version of Android). The roms you are seeing right now (two that Im aware of) are basically rigged versions of the stock rom where things have been removed (bloatware) and a few things have been added that conveniently worked out of the box without messing with code.
The real work will come when we have some source code to work with.
Ok, what's next?
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It's good to see someone with a lot of drive to develop, but the biggest hurdle isn't building AOSP from source. You need to get a working kernel that is compatible with ICS and all the Notes hardware. You can't google search how to do that. In reality it's almost impossible to do if you don't have extensive experience with that sort of thing.
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Okay well that's a start... does anyone know where I can find a stock version of ICS to study it's code and experiment? I found source codes for SGH-i717 here
opensource(dot)samsung(dot)com
(I need more posts to make that a link, lol)
I searched for i717 and it came up with four source results on samsung's opensource search bar but I don't know what the four results are for and what the difference between them all are(unless it means it is for att or tmobile or etc, etc.), if you can tell me any info on these then I would be greatly appreciative.
Yeah, I have no clue how to do most things with coding for android but I do understand how to flash correctly, root and all that jazz. I just lack the programming skills and work flow it takes to make all this. I am downloading java for dummies and learning how to use XML files, but I am wondering if there is something else I should study too?
It sucks that I came here starting from scratch basically but I have learned a lot from here in a short amount of time, I appreciate all of the developers who have made the roms I love along the way, I am just growing impatient with the far and few between updates for your devices and I want to see updates for our devices come faster and the only way to do that is to do something about it. So I am very grateful for any help I get regarding this.
Where can I start with the kernel search? Is that what everyone is waiting on to start developing ICS for this phone? Does anyone know if one exists?
Another Question
What's the difference between a kernel and a rom? Basically.. what the heck is it in lamen's terms?
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What's the difference between a kernel and a rom? Basically.. what the heck is it in lamen's terms?
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This is a great place to start.
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
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This is not the place to learn how to develop, go to Android Development and Hacking forums and start studying.
So I was thinking earlier today, according to a few people, we apparently have RIL working just not a kernel source to make AOKP/AOSP stable.
I also thought, well, we have plenty of people still running GB ROMs and people on GB firmware. Why don't people try to put together a CM7.2 ROM since we do have source for GB.
I'm pretty sure Android is all about choice and variety so I ask someone who is experienced in porting, development, etc. Why doesn't someone get in touch with Tekk, or whoever has RIL working and pop out a CM7 (.2?) port, it's still AOSP so it'll hold people over and hell, some people would probably prefer it, not to mention that I'm sure people would rather have a form of Cyanogenmod over nothing at all.
I have no clue how, nor the computer to ever begin trying it, so it's why I ask.
This would definitely be nice. Cm7.2 is amazing on my incredible. I would love to see it on the rezound! Maybe... Just maybe...
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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No it won't because the sources are available
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con247 said:
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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They got everything working in ICS, would NONE of it be able to work towards GB??
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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I thought we had everything we needed available?
If RIL is fixed for ICS AOSP ROMs supposedly, and we're waiting for kernel source to get it stable, couldn't we translate the RIL fixes down to a GB AOSP ROM, I thought also since we have GB kernel source, all loose ends would be tied up?
We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out (which could come as early as next week or as late as 2 months from now, if the latest June-July report is accurate), why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out, why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Which to me and probably many others is better than possibly nothing and if nothing else, just gives us some more variety which is never bad.
There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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This I did not know, hence why I did ask about this;
I think this would great but idk if I could live without my apex launcher!!
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
I got sick of waiting for AOSP, so I found one a ROM I liked and I asked the original dev if I could try to port it. He said go for it, and so I started working on it. Once I have a something worthy of going public, it might just pop up somewhere...
Anyways, the point is, why do I see everybody asking for things but nobody willing to try and do it themselves? Isn't the whole point of Android the ability to tinker with it and make it do whatever you want?
...but, if you're going to depend on someone else to do it for you, it just doesn't seem fair to ask the developers here to "hurry up" or go out of their way to develop something they aren't interested in using themselves..
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
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I am attempting to learn btw
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I am attempting to learn btw
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Sometimes it's fun. haha pain most of the time
I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
I Am Marino said:
I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I would love to learn, however I lack the time requirement to learn it with a full time + job, a three year old, a preggers wife, and a house to get ready for the new demon spawn. Sucks because I'd probably be pretty good at it too. I have no expectations on devs and will continue to patiently wait for anything they release.