ROM Manager after root? - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So its to my understanding that you don't need ROM manager after you root the SF with clockworkmod installed during the root process. I ran rom manager after root, installed the latest clockworkmod from ROM manager, and then rebooted. Whenever I would flash anything it would go to the rom managers cwmr. But if i hard rebooted it with the volume keys it would go to Voodoo, which i assume takes the place of the stock Android Recovery. However, I tried to manipulate a nandroid back up in the VooDoo cwm, and it immediately sent me phone into a boot loop followed by a total brick of my phone. What do we need to use? I'm coming from a rooted Droid X before my fascinate.
Thanks!

Keuka79 said:
So its to my understanding that you don't need ROM manager after you root the SF with clockworkmod installed during the root process. I ran rom manager after root, installed the latest clockworkmod from ROM manager, and then rebooted. Whenever I would flash anything it would go to the rom managers cwmr. But if i hard rebooted it with the volume keys it would go to Voodoo, which i assume takes the place of the stock Android Recovery. However, I tried to manipulate a nandroid back up in the VooDoo cwm, and it immediately sent me phone into a boot loop followed by a total brick of my phone. What do we need to use? I'm coming from a rooted Droid X before my fascinate.
Thanks!
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Don't waste your time with ROM Manager if you're not running CM7. It doesn't work with the Fascinate otherwise. Stick with the CWM you put on there with ODIN. If I were you, I would get the tar file for CWM 3 and reODIN it.

I've since restored my phone back to stock, rerooted and gotten miui back the way I had it. Now unfortunately I didn't read your post early enough and mistakenly added rom manager again and installed their version of clockwork. Should I just boot recovery and wipe/reset. That'll get rid of the secondary clockwork I installed right?
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[Q] stock fascinate 2.2 and cwm recovery

yesterday iwasaperson was extremely helpful to me. Thanks. I took my fascinate back to stock 2.1 and allowed it to update to 2.2. I then rooted my phone by flashing CWM recovery using ODIN. (red version) I had installed two files to root of drive one update.zip and the other for rooting the phone Su-----.zip. I ran them using the red version and restarted the phone. The phone is now rooted but I can't get back to CWM recovery.
I tried the following: I have ROM manager and flashed CWM but it wom't take. If I try to go into recovery I get the stock Samsung blue menu. I am thinking I need a different (CWM recovery comptabile) kernel or mod to get this to work.
Can someone help?
Reflash cwm, boot directly into recovery mode, and flash your custom kernel. The stock kernel tends to block access to cwm.
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[Q] HELP: I cannot get vibrant to boot into CWM

I have successfully been able to root and install everything on my Mytouch4G just fine, however, when I tried to install my wife's Vibrant, I am stuck. Here is what I have done:
1) I rooted successfully using superoneclickv1.9.1
2) I installed ROM Manager and also downloaded the Auxora ROM to get ready to install
3) When I flash CWM recovery, it says current and latest recover is 2.5.1.2 (concern here that my mytouch says 3.0.2.4 - do different phones install differently with CWM?). When I look at all CWM recoveries I also notice there is two seemingly more current versions available 2.5.1.3 and 2.5.1.4. I have left it at .2 but wondering why all the versions.
4) When I reboot into recovery, I always get the stock recovery and have not been able to get CWM recovery so I am unable to flash my Auxora ROM. I ran update packages numerous times, and get a signature verification error. I have tried a recovery 3e patch that does not work either. I also gave a try at downloading and SDK, but received temp root errors (phone is already rooted).
After reading many posts, I cannot seem to get a direct answer on what I should do to get CWM to actually boot properly, so I can flash a ROM. Someone said to flash the stock JDK rom, but if I can't boot into recovery, how can I flash anything.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You need to get a program for your pc called odin to get back to stock. you can find that and instructions on how to use it if you search for the daily updated vibrant bible its GREAT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
going to stock eclair heres a a great guide
So going back to stock eclair will then allow me to install CWM recovery then load roms?
Every once n a while I haft do the install packages thing twice before it gives me clockwork green
. Hope this helps.. o n btw u should look at some of the other roms in the bible before u try auxora
yes u should go back to stock eclair for every rom, in my opinion. Then after that do the 3 button combo and install packages and u will have to do it twice and then the green screen will kick in and ready to rock a new rom.
i hope this helps
What is your current firmware?
I see you posted over in the "NOOB GUIDE" thread, you should really try to root using the method posted there and not any one click root apps.
This should be the root method everyone uses:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723479
After root your phone recovery should be blue. Choose "reinstall packages" gives you green recovery(this may need to be repeated multiple times to work possibly including flashing CwMRecovery with ROM manager. I recently did it 5 times b4 i got green recovery)Once you access green recovery chose "apply sdcard:update.zip" go into advanced and choose "reboot recovery" This should give you red recovery. Do a nandroid backup and flash away. Good luck!
Another option you could do is to download SGS kernel flasher from the market and flash a voodoo injected kernel with that app. Then when you boot into recovery you will have red voodoo recovery and you can flash away.
Odin to stock the best way to flash a new rom
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jman531 said:
So going back to stock eclair will then allow me to install CWM recovery then load roms?
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The stock 2.2 that Samsung distributed with their Kies tool has a recovery that checks signatures. Everything earlier does not check signatures. So either use something earlier to get CWM running, or use a ROM that doesn't have the stock 2.2 recovery in the first place, or mod your recovery using the method described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423
Using Odin to go back to stock Eclair between your flashes of modded roms has the benefit of taking care of this, and also can clear up left over bits and pieces that may interfere with the proper function of your new ROM.
ok, i followed the instructions and am back to eclair, however, whenever I install packages, it just reboots the phone, not even back into stock recovery. I use the 3 key method and get into recovery, run install packages, and the phone just boots back up...its like it isn't running the update.zip file...
UPD: When i load rom manager and try to reboot into recovery, it says the application superuser permissions has stopped unexpectedly and keeps force closing now....titanium backup wont run now either, my root permissions seem whacked after going back to eclair?
UPD2: I followed instructions to unroot and reroot here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739300
It removed superuser, then added it back again, but I still get the unexpected error and it appears my root is not in place. I am back to eclair, and now need a certain way to get my root fixed, so I can try and flash CWM recovery. Without root working, it is not letting me. My wife hates me now for doing this to her phone, so those of you that are married, I would appreciate your assistance to get back on her good side...before Mother's day...please? =)
Ok, thanks for all the help, however, I am really back where I started. I can only get stock recovery, and for the life of me, cannot get CW recovery to load. I used ODIN to go back to eclair on the vibrant, have a good root on the phone now, and no matter how many times i reinstall packages i cannot get clockworkmod recovery to load, ever. Any more thoughts out there?
I had this trouble a few months back. Things to check before going into recovery:
You gotta have root access.
Make sure you have debugging on
Install busybox FIRST
Try uninstalling Rom manager and reinstalling the latest version.
apply the recovery for vibrant and let it boot into recovery.
When it boots into recovery Don't try to install packages yet. Just reboot.
Look here for the files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423&highlight=3e+recovery
When it boots up push the update.zip to the sd card on the phone, not the external card.
Run the script and it should reboot back into recovery.
You should now be able to install packages.
This way has always worked for me.
starkiller86 said:
I had this trouble a few months back. Things to check before going into recovery:
You gotta have root access.
Make sure you have debugging on
Install busybox FIRST
Try uninstalling Rom manager and reinstalling the latest version.
apply the recovery for vibrant and let it boot into recovery.
When it boots into recovery Don't try to install packages yet. Just reboot.
Look here for the files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423&highlight=3e+recovery
When it boots up push the update.zip to the sd card on the phone, not the external card.
Run the script and it should reboot back into recovery.
You should now be able to install packages.
This way has always worked for me.
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thanks...It is rooted, but not sure about busybox...the stock recovery is 2e now since I went back to eclair, so not sure i should follow that link as it talks about modifying 3e and making it backwards compatable. I did use that process before I went back to eclair, and it didn't work for me. I have uninstalled rom manager, and reinstalled...and it is different in that it shows a flashed recovery 2.5.1.2, and never asks me for my phone type anymore...it used to ask me and i had to select vibrant....is the recovery supposed to be 2.5.1.2? when I show all recoveries it lists .1, .2, .3, .4 so wondering if I should use .3 or .4...why does it stay at .2?
starkiller86 said:
I had this trouble a few months back. Things to check before going into recovery:
You gotta have root access.
Make sure you have debugging on
Install busybox FIRST
Try uninstalling Rom manager and reinstalling the latest version.
apply the recovery for vibrant and let it boot into recovery.
When it boots into recovery Don't try to install packages yet. Just reboot.
Look here for the files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833423&highlight=3e+recovery
When it boots up push the update.zip to the sd card on the phone, not the external card.
Run the script and it should reboot back into recovery.
You should now be able to install packages.
This way has always worked for me.
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OK>>> I GOT IT... Thanks to everyone who helped...Here is what was needed:
1) Install ODIN, install back to eclair
2) uninstall ROM Manager, reinstall
3) I needed to select the 2.5.1.2 recovery from the list again (this was important as it somehow knew of the previous load, but files were missing, or something was just wrong.) It finally loaded properly, and asked for phone type again, so selected vibrant
4) I rebooted into recovery, and instead of install packages, i rebooted once, as starkiller suggested
5) After reboot, went back into recovery from rom manager, and this time installed updates, and it showed that it replaced the recovery with CWM.
6) It rebooted into stock recovery however, so I once again selected install updates, and it went right into CWM recovery, and now I am flashing happy!!!
Thanks again everyone...this was soooooo different than my mytouch4g!
If you have the Kies update of Froyo, the 3e mod will sometimes not work. I've gotten to CWM though , but its best to downgrade then flash a ROM from there.
I just wanted to bump this thread because it really helped me.
I've messed around with numerous android phones, and I've never had thie issues I've had with this phone getting into recovery to flash ROMs
Thank you!

[Q] Clockword Mod Manager

Ok, so long story short - I went through a lot of steps to restore my fascinate to stock, and then rooted it through recovery. It worked fine until I installed Rom Manager and now my phone won't boot into recovery again. My question is - did I do something wrong?
I restored my phone to stock using Heimdall
Updated it to the latest version
Rooted it using odin and flashing recovery
then installed Rom Manager
Thank you for all your help guys!!!
kuczynt said:
Ok, so long story short - I went through a lot of steps to restore my fascinate to stock, and then rooted it through recovery. It worked fine until I installed Rom Manager and now my phone won't boot into recovery again. My question is - did I do something wrong?
I restored my phone to stock using Heimdall
Updated it to the latest version
Rooted it using odin and flashing recovery
then installed Rom Manager
Thank you for all your help guys!!!
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download odin (onto pc), a non stock kernel and the recovery.zip that you want to use.(both recovery.zip and non stock kernel on your sd card)
Put your phone in dl mode and flash recovery via odin...when odin is done, immediately three finger boot into recovery and flash non stock kernel, and reboot.
Unless your on cm7 rom manager is useless and will bring more hurt then help, and your recovery is being overwritten by the stock kernel every time you boot which is why you need the non stock kernel...I personally would recommend a rom that contains a kernel...you can find a list of all roms, kernels, and recoveries in the dev section stickies.
Do you know how to properly flash roms, and kernels? I ask because I don't want to get you stuck even worse...if you need step by step instructions I'll reply later when I'm at a pc
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You can give me a few tips and hints. That would be appreciated. Also, I thought the easiest way was through Rom Manager.
On a side note - what would be the most stable ROM to flash to the fascinate?
EDIT: Ok, so I installed PowerWashed 1.2 ROM and can handle this on my own a little bit. I'm still a little unsure on which roms are most stable/trustworthy, but I might stick with this one for a while.

[Q] Before I knew not to install Rom Manager, I installed it

As the title says, before I knew not to install Rom Manager, I installed it. I used Rom Manager to install CWM. However, when I try to boot into CWM, I get the "Android system recovery <3e>" in blue lettering. I have uninstalled Rom Manager, but is there anything else I need to do to clean up anything Rom Manager might have done?
thanks
I did it too, not sure if its bad or ok?
It is OKAY to install rom manager and will not create an issue just having it installed. What you cannot do right now correctly is get it to go into cwm correctly on stock roms.
(It works flawless on cm7 and I use it daily or every couple days. I have even used it to back up the STOCK Samsung rom and cm7 roms. I have then in turn went from cm7 back to stock via cwm with the backed up copy I made with rom manager).
Once you see the cwm3 recovery just reboot phone, turn it back off, three finger salute until you see the Samsung galaxy s screen and let go of the buttons. This will get you back to the proper cwm to install roms.
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re: rom manager
retnuh said:
As the title says, before I knew not to install Rom Manager, I installed it. I used Rom Manager to install CWM. However, when I try to boot into CWM, I get the "Android system recovery <3e>" in blue lettering. I have uninstalled Rom Manager, but is there anything else I need to do to clean up anything Rom Manager might have done?
thanks
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First you need to download this SGH-I777_ClockworkMod-Recovery_5.0.2.3.tar
kernel, here is the link: http://www.multiupload.com/QQKN7NJAFT
Go into download mode and flash with ODIN.
After doing that you need to ROOT the phone using "SuperOneClick" rooter which
can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
Once you get done with these two steps sucessfully you will be good to go and will be able
to flash any custom rom found in this forum. You will also have the CWM recovery screen too.
(notice: I did NOT say anything about rom manager in any of the two above steps )
Good Luck
Thank you very much for your replies. I am currently running a "rooted" stock rom. Are you saying that I will need to re-root the phone after installing SGH-I777_ClockworkMod-Recovery_5.0.2.3.tar?
Thanks for your help.
re: rooting
retnuh said:
Thank you very much for your replies. I am currently running a "rooted" stock rom. Are you saying that I will need to re-root the phone after installing SGH-I777_ClockworkMod-Recovery_5.0.2.3.tar?
Thanks for your help.
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If you are really are rooted now then just do step #1 afterwards just make
sure that there is an app installed called "superuser" if you cannot find that
app that means that you are not rooted and will need to root again.
Hi Misterjunky
Thank you for your post
I had exact same problem: installed and run ROM manager before read
Instead use the method you method: flash with ODIN. can I use Mobile Odin Lite mentioned here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
BTW, my S2 was already rooted
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[Q] Android System Recovery 3e

Hi All, I rooted my Verizon GS4 with this method "[GUIDE] Root for Verizon Galaxy S4 ***VRUAMDK Build Only!***" back before the first update so I have Root with Baseband I545VRUAMDK, Build JDQ39.I545VRUAMDKand Kernal 3.4.0-562219. I haven't tried to install any ROMs since then but started to get the itch so I started refreshing myself on the process and found that when I try to reboot into CWM Recovery it boots to Android System Recovery 3e. I'm looking for guidance on how to get CWM working properly. ROM Manager says I am using CWM 6.0.4.7. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
jpp2109 said:
Hi All, I rooted my Verizon GS4 with this method "[GUIDE] Root for Verizon Galaxy S4 ***VRUAMDK Build Only!***" back before the first update so I have Root with Baseband I545VRUAMDK, Build JDQ39.I545VRUAMDKand Kernal 3.4.0-562219. I haven't tried to install any ROMs since then but started to get the itch so I started refreshing myself on the process and found that when I try to reboot into CWM Recovery it boots to Android System Recovery 3e. I'm looking for guidance on how to get CWM working properly. ROM Manager says I am using CWM 6.0.4.7. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
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From what I've read about that issue is people have had to Odin back to stock then start over. Now maybe you could try installing another recovery like Philz maybe using Odin or try Goo for TWRP before you Odin back to mdk and go through all that.
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I had a similar thing a few years ago, with what I know now I think the recovery is temporarily flashed with CWM to gain root and stock recovery is replaced after, I'd look for an actual CWM recovery to flash in.
Same applied to me using a ROM Manager, said it was v.xxx made a backup, flashed a ROM, turns out was left without a backup..... noob-old days
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
Thank you for the solid replies, I'm interested in getting experience with the other recovery methods anyway so I'll try those and worse case I start from scratch.
I have pretty much this same issue. I was happily running 6.0.44 CWM, installed via CWM.
Then I happened to check and see there's an update to 6.0.47. I installed via ROM manager which reported success. Except that it isnt. I basically have 2 recoveries as far as ROM manager is concerned. It thinks I'm on 6.0.47, but 6.0.44 is what boots. I'm betting it's the same issue you have.
I re-flashed Twrp trying to fix it. Now twrp is what recovery always boots; but Rom manager still thinks 6.0.47 is installed. Rom manager shows BOTH recoveries in the "Recovery already installed" menu.
Seems the issue here is the 6.0.47 when flashed via Rom manager. It bugs the crap out of me that it seems like I have 2 recoveries installed somehow. Not sure how that's possible, but everything seems like it's functioning for me.
Compare the sizes of the recoveries, one thing I've come across is when you flash a new .img in because of the NAND chip process for writing/erasing I have had 'remnants' from previous files.
In one respect it is unlikely but I wouldn't rule it out until you check yourself. It could just be left on the list as a marker that it has previously been installed.
Personally I don't use ROM Managers now, it's into TWRP Recovery and backup from there
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
Look Like I'll Have to Start From Scratch
I'm just getting back to this because work was crazy. No Matter what recovery I try always comes up with Android System Recovery 3e. Stock MDK and re-root it is.
Maybe try using GooManager to install TWRP after you've gone back to stock.

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