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If the prices rumored around the internet are true or close ie: Samsung 4g off contract 650.00 Thunderbolt 749.00 off contract etc( who knows what the Galaxy s2 will be ). than I am pretty certain I will bow out of the new phone sweepstakes for awhile. I paid 529.00 for the Nexus one and about the same for a Nexus S(which I returned) and to my way of thinking that is about the upper limit I want to spend on a smartphone. I am not eligible for upgrade for quite some time and would probably be willing to spend in the neighborhood of 500-560.00 but not up in the mid 600 to 750 range. I realize that they new phones have dual cores and other items but if the price remains close to the same with upgrade(which it appears they will) why the big price hike for the off contract? Trying to force people to switch carriers and sign contracts? Are the carriers testing to see if we will pay the higher prices. I would really appreciate hearing your feelings about this from all of you out there.
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We just got our hands of a copy of the latest Sprint Playbook, and while we were hoping for some more info about the LG Marquee and Kyocera Milano, what we found was a bit, well, different. It seems that in order to stay competitive with Verizon and AT&T (Sprint's words, not ours), some changes are going to be made to several of the perks everyone on Sprint takes for granted.
For starters, the Sprint Premier program is coming to an end. Current members will be hearing from Sprint sometime after Sept. 16 with all the details, but the short version is starting at the beginning of this month, enrollment in the program stopped, and you'll have to use your current (and final) Premier upgrade on or before Dec. 31, 2012. In addition, the other smaller but just as appreciated perks like accessory discounts and annual anniversary gifts end Dec. 31, 2011. Employees have been instructed how to let everyone down easy, but this will sting no matter how you slice it.
Next up, is a major change to Sprint's 30-day=satisfaction guarantee -- it's getting cut by 16 days. Like we've seen other carriers do, Sprint will now be switching to a 14-day return policy. They will still return everything but the restocking fee, you just have a couple weeks less to make up your mind.
Finally, starting Oct. 2, the "New For You" upgrade time is changing from 22 months, down to 20. Cutting the time down by two months is nice, but will hardly take the sting of losing the yearly Premier benefit away.
Nothing good can last forever folks, and as Sprint reminds us, they have to do something to stay competitive. In the end, it's a business and sometimes you have to rob from Peter to pay Paul. We have some relevant pages of the Playbook after the break.
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hi guys and gals and all you trolls : D
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We just got our hands of a copy of the latest Sprint Playbook, and while we were hoping for some more info about the LG Marquee and Kyocera Milano, what we found was a bit, well, different. It seems that in order to stay competitive with Verizon and AT&T (Sprint's words, not ours), some changes are going to be made to several of the perks everyone on Sprint takes for granted.
For starters, the Sprint Premier program is coming to an end. Current members will be hearing from Sprint sometime after Sept. 16 with all the details, but the short version is starting at the beginning of this month, enrollment in the program stopped, and you'll have to use your current (and final) Premier upgrade on or before Dec. 31, 2012. In addition, the other smaller but just as appreciated perks like accessory discounts and annual anniversary gifts end Dec. 31, 2011. Employees have been instructed how to let everyone down easy, but this will sting no matter how you slice it.
Next up, is a major change to Sprint's 30-day=satisfaction guarantee -- it's getting cut by 16 days. Like we've seen other carriers do, Sprint will now be switching to a 14-day return policy. They will still return everything but the restocking fee, you just have a couple weeks less to make up your mind.
Finally, starting Oct. 2, the "New For You" upgrade time is changing from 22 months, down to 20. Cutting the time down by two months is nice, but will hardly take the sting of losing the yearly Premier benefit away.
Nothing good can last forever folks, and as Sprint reminds us, they have to do something to stay competitive. In the end, it's a business and sometimes you have to rob from Peter to pay Paul. We have some relevant pages of the Playbook after the break.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's about damn time.
Am I happy about this? Not at all. But this was going to happen eventually. Sprint is bleeding money without compare. As long as they continue to offer decent coverage, great prices and fantastic customer service I'm all for it. They need to stay competitive. Not to us, they are already very competitive to us...they need to stay competitive to investors or risk a takeover most likely coming from Verizon.
***** and complain all you want, where you gunna go? T-Mobile? Unlikely. That whole law-suit from the DOJ is nothing but a dog-n-pony show.
Sprint has to offer unlimited service, the same fantastic rates, unparalleled customer service while at the same time improving it's network infrastructure all around in order to stand a chance...they know it and it's about time they started acting like it.
....with a strategic partnership with Google they could change the entire game by ditching the voice-n-text strategy and being the first to embrace the "everything is data" paradigm. It's coming. "voice service" all by itself is so, well, last century. We all know it's already digital, why convert back twice and charge us for something we can now do on our own?
...that's just my take...
Well to stay competitive they say. Really how is offering the same price as the other 2 competitive. owell here comes the throttling not now but soon
(doesnt say that but thats the path). Very disappointed indeed.
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Well to stay competitive they say. Really how is offering the same price as the other 2 competitive. owell here comes the throttling not now but soon
(doesnt say that but thats the path). Very disappointed indeed.
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Well I'd have to say that Unlimited data plans and Unlimited data plans that are still $10-$20 cheaper than tiered (aka "limited data") plans is still a better deal....
....now they are on the same level with all of other companies for ETF and other "little things."
...and as I said they are already very competitive to us, far more than the other choices (besides the doomed T-Mobile)...but it isn't us they need to convince to not sell-out to Verizon, it's the shareholders....and that benefits us too.
As long as they keep the data unlimited, I could care about the other oerks
So much for upgrading annually that's the only reason i was with them
I am pretty disappointed in this news. I left at&t to come to sprint not just because of price but also because of the perks you get with being premiere. Annual upgrades, discounts on accessories, anniversary gifts, etc.
Yes. Price was nice but going to a company that ties verizon for customer service and appreciates its customers to give them a little something back once in a while really sold me on the idea.
The crappy thing is that just after I signed up for a plan that was sprint premier qualified, they switched to a tiered plan. So I was already like wtf! Not to mention that they also started to charge all smartphones a $10 premium instead of just 4g phones (though that didn't really effect me).
I can see the argument that says sprint needs to stop these perks in order to save a bit of capital in order to invest in the network, but I don't think this is a good move for sprint.
The fact is that sprint used to offer several perks that no other carrier did, and they were cheaper than the others. These extra perks made sprint very attractive. The tradeoff is that their network speeds are noticeably slower than their competitions. Many people take that tradeoff because of those perks.
I am betting that if people lose those perks, and all they are left with is an $8 a month savings, they will go to a more reliable network. This loss of customers will lead to a much greater loss of capital than these perks will. sprint still won't be able to invest in their network when they lose 25% of their customers. I just don't see this as being a a good move when you are trying to standout against the competition.
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Sprint needs to keep something in mind:
Sure, they have unlimited data (for now anyway), but beyond that if they align themselves too closely with Verizon and ATT, they may actually need to provide a reliable fast data service.
Why do I have better data speed when roaming? Because sprints network is pathetic in comparison. And if they align too closely, everyone that has been satisfied with unlimited data and yearly upgrades might start to notice how poor their service really is.
i see people saying sprint has unlimited data this is true ... but for how long changes like this happened to VRW right before the iphone was announced . what finally happened .. data caps . only thing that was helping sprint is unlimited data ..
now that the premiere is gone the upgrade fee is jumping etf is jumping what's going to keep people around ?
surely not the data speeds ..
Another thing...while unlimited data is great and all, only something like 2% of people use even 2GB a month. The fact is that the vast majority of people are good with limited data. the huge data hogs that are all drawn to sprint and leave other networks. This clogs up sprints already lackluster network even more while freeing up a competitors network. plus, since only a small percentage of people come to sprint for the unlimited data plan, that means they really aren't gaining market share. And to make matters even worse the customers they do get aren't really profitable because they are consuming so much data...
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This puts me close to my edge here. Been with sprint for over 10yrs as i was with nextel well before so i was enjoying my premier gold status and yearly upgrades.
This change will greatly make me rethink things when my yr comes up which will be in 2yrs as ill upgrade to whatever next yr while its still valid, and the yr after that will be the deciding factor. If I can't call and negeotiate getting the 2yr upgrade then walking i will likely be doing, and thats what will keep me here, long as i can call in and get the 2yr price ill stick here, first time that doesn't happen ill likely walk.
take away the silver status but **** reward something to the people that have stuck around through thick and thin 10yrs plus and let them upgrade every year!!
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i see people saying sprint has unlimited data this is true ... but for how long changes like this happened to VRW right before the iphone was announced . what finally happened .. data caps . only thing that was helping sprint is unlimited data ..
now that the premiere is gone the upgrade fee is jumping etf is jumping what's going to keep people around ?
surely not the data speeds ..
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You be trolling hard!!!
You have ATT!
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As long as they keep the data unlimited...
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Ditto, I'm still pissed but yeah, I'd drop premier if it meant keeping my data unlimited, Just like it say's in Hesse's dictionary.
I draw the line at the costs & the data.
I love all 12Mbps down of my unlimited data.
so instead of upgrading every year we have to wait 20 months for new upgrades? that's gonna suck ****ing hard for me. really hard. im not one too hang onto a phone for too long. especially this one
Up next, tiered data. I dont know why anyone is surprised...
I understand why Sprint is doing it, but it really pisses me off. I upgraded my plan in July to make my plan cost enough to be a Gold Premiere member and it would take affect next month. Then I would be eligible for an upgrade because I didn't use on for the Evo 3D and planned on using that upgrade to get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. I will be calling Sprint and I will be complaining to see if I can get my upgrade or at least downgrade my plan back to where it was and get my $ back for the 2 months I spent at a higher plan which will probably be 3 by the time I talk to them.
No other carrier offers the yearly upgrade, so this will put Sprint more on par with other carriers. To me it is still the best deal because of unlimited across the board for less than tiered plans with other carriers.
I understand why they would get rid of most of the program but they are WRONG to do that to the 10+ year members......If they don't keep it for us they will bleed MANY of their longtime customers!!!!!! It's just dirty to do this to 10+ year customers!!!!!
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Im a 10 year member too and very upset hearing about this. Im with Sgt Slaughter on this, the day i cant call in and upgrade is probably the day I walk.
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How useful is unlimited data when you get 100kbs download speeds with full 3G coverage? The only reason I'm with Sprint is because of all these little extra perks that they keep taking away. I've also been with Sprint for over 10 years and it's a real shame. I don't know about everyone else but in my area Sprint's backhaul is so bad that data speeds are absolutely ****! Particularly unusable during peak hours. Most of my friends have Verizon and although their bills are higher, they get awesome data speeds. There's also a rumor that Verizon will be getting LTE in my area soon. If that happens I would happily pay my EFT and sign up with Verizon. I've been waiting for 4G in my area since the release of EVO 4G and there's no plan of them adding it any time soon. I would sign with T-Mobile but they don't even have 3G data in my area. However, that actually might not be a bad idea because I only get 1X speeds on Sprint anyhow.
Soon, all the carriers will be offering very similar services. Sprint increased the ETF, added a few cents to the monthly bill, removed lots of perks they offered to premiere customers etc. With all these changes, how long do you think the unlimited everything plan will last?
Once Sprint upgrades it's 3g network to evdo rev b, that'll be the end of unlimited everything.
Samsung isn't planning on releasing this phone on the big red until MAY30 WHICH is very close to June and isn't there going to be a couple phone in June around that same type with the new snapdragon 800 like that new moto phone coming out so I'm.curious wouldn't the new phone in June play the new gs4 obsolete ? Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! why is Verizon releasing this phone so late i mean if there's a phone within the same month of the gs4 with twice the power then I won't consider the gs4 when I can wait just 2 weeks and buy somethin much more superior in hardware and stock android Samsung is about to lose a tons of money on Verizon if they wait all th way to may30 around the same month as sum very new phones with double the power .... Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ?? in may when moto announces there phone which will prob kill the gs4 in every way specs and software within 3week after the gs4 comes to store everyone will cancel there preorders and just wait and extra 3week to get the most powerful phone with a better screen n better snapdragon n prob more sensors and better battery and full stock android!
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Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ??
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That doesn't make a lot of sense. People in the U.S. typically get new phones when they become eligible so there's a steady stream of people year round looking to buy new phones no matter when they are released. People buy what pleases them. The DNA tanked on VZW and there were no other phones released before it or after it that caused its failure. And it was powerful and had the world's first 1080P display. People are still buying SGS3's in large quantities and probably will after the SGS4's out because the price will be reduced. The SGS4 will be on the market as a "flagship" for 9-12 months and Samsung's planning on selling 10MM a month. HTC, Motorola, LG, and Sony all introduced phones that competed with the SGS3 and it certainly didn't affect Samsung's sales last year. So there's no reason to expect it to this year either. And the average consumer doesn't know (or care) what a Snapdragon, Exynos, or Octa is.
Plenty of hot new phones came out after the Galaxy S3's July release in the U.S. like the Razr Maxx HD, Nexus 4, etc. yet the GS3 outsold all of them by a huge margin. The average consumer doesn't buy phones based mainly on hardware specs.
Verizon is launching it on may 23rd, not may 30th. I went to Verizon yesterday and there was a Samsung rep there showing the employees the s4 and they said the official launch date is the 23rd. I know that's still three weeks later than the rest, but at least its a week earlier than may 30th. I gotta question, is verizons s4 going to be harder to unlock and root than the rest of them? I heard Verizon likes to lock them down, and I've never owned a smartphone I've been holding out for this one. I own a nexus 7 which is obviously the easiest to unlock and root. But i know the s4 is a huge release so I'm kinda assuming that there will be a solid method to root for Verizon. Am i right?
According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
The Galaxy S 4 is optimized for powerful performance on the nation’s fastest networks and will be available on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless as well as U.S. Cellular, Cricket and C Spire starting during April. Additionally, consumers can find the Galaxy S 4 at Best Buy and Best Buy Mobile, Costco, Radio Shack, Sam’s Club, Staples, Target and Wal-Mart. Exact pricing and retail availability will be announced by each of the carriers and retailers in the coming weeks.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
hurricane350 said:
According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
And for the OP... i am not sure how new phones will make the s4 obsolete? a cpu does not a phone make....
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
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But it says available on not to... I'm staying optimistic!
It also says "starting in april" that could mean that just one or a few carriers will roll it out in April.
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I.D.K. why the O.P. is saying that the galaxy s4 would be obsolete soon i mean come on the motorla x phone right now is just a nice looking rumor plus a processor in a phone doesn't make all that difference because maybe you saw last year's htc one X+ it smoked the galaxy but the battery was really bad plus i hardly ever think android needs more power right now they need to be more battery friendly and better screen really what do you want more than 441ppi ?? anyway looking at all those gs4 specs and concediring what happened with last year's gs3 i can tell you that the galaxy won't go down till the gs5 is out so don't worry if verizon goes a few weeks later than everyone else it will still sell like hot cakes.
I still have unlimited internet after 4/21 can I buy new galaxy s4 cell using the new 12 month payment plan that's effective on 4/21 without upgrading to the 200sub? Does anyone know I think everyone who still has unlimited internet should ask Verizon this.. I wanna get the new s4 but keep my unlimited internet so will this 12month thing work for me?
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I actually find that replacing phones is very easy on verizon compared to sprint. I had sprint in the past and their customer service was atrocious. The Fascinate (Verizon Galaxy S) apparently had lots of problems, and they kept getting replaced until the Droid Charge came out, when Verizon just started giving out Charges to replace Fascinates.
The Charge had some problems too, and if you got enough bad ones from them, they even started handing out the Bionic, Rezound, and Razr too (phones that came out later with much higher specs). I even bricked my Charge and they just gave me a new one.
Verizon web page updated with Galaxy S4
Verizon web page updated today with Galaxy S4
The next big thing is coming.....late
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I'm in the HTC camp.....
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They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
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They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
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I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
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I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
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If he used like 1GB a month sure it would cost less, but Verizon's network has really gone down the drain in the bigger citys. May as well have sprint 3G at times it get's so bad. Now if you live in bum ville sure Verzion win's. But he live's in the city so data speeds will be better on T-moblie.
Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
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I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending.
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If you're considering using an upgrade, that means you don't have unlimited, in which case my question is... why bother with VZ?
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Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
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It's not throttled. When the network isn't congested (as you say, places like NYC during the day are crap) I still get great speeds.
I was considering buying a Rezound on Craigslist and I was wondering if anyone had gotten 3G/4G data working on any GSM carriers, or if this was even possible to begin with.
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I was considering buying a Rezound on Craigslist and I was wondering if anyone had gotten 3G/4G data working on any GSM carriers, or if this was even possible to begin with.
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Real 4G (ie. LTE) no, it won't work... some people have been able to do a bunch of NV edits and prop.build tweaks to get 3G working, even HSPA+ but it is not for the faint of heart. REV3NT3CH has been working on a flashable ZIP package to make the changes for any ROM, but I haven't heard any more about in a while... I spent a close to a month working on it and was never able to get better than 2G/EDGE data on AT&T's network and finally gave up.
My honest opinion is if you are going to spend money on a phone for GSM service, get a real GSM phone, the Rezound is a great device and can be hacked a lot if you already have one, but if you are going to buy one for GSM I would look at something else. For something similar on AT&T's network, consider a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, you can get it for around the same price as a used Rezound and it is very similar and the developer community is really good. Not sure about a T-Mobile equivalent. I ponied up the extra and grabbed a Nexus 4, if you can wait a few weeks, the Nexus 5 should drop and the 16GB model is expected to be about $299.
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Real 4G (ie. LTE) no, it won't work... some people have been able to do a bunch of NV edits and prop.build tweaks to get 3G working, even HSPA+ but it is not for the faint of heart. REV3NT3CH has been working on a flashable ZIP package to make the changes for any ROM, but I haven't heard any more about in a while... I spent a close to a month working on it and was never able to get better than 2G/EDGE data on AT&T's network and finally gave up.
My honest opinion is if you are going to spend money on a phone for GSM service, get a real GSM phone, the Rezound is a great device and can be hacked a lot if you already have one, but if you are going to buy one for GSM I would look at something else. For something similar on AT&T's network, consider a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, you can get it for around the same price as a used Rezound and it is very similar and the developer community is really good. Not sure about a T-Mobile equivalent. I ponied up the extra and grabbed a Nexus 4, if you can wait a few weeks, the Nexus 5 should drop and the 16GB model is expected to be about $299.
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Which is good advice, if I was looking to spend more than $75-100 at the moment. My phone broke and I'd like a midline replacement for it, and there are a few Rezounds on Craigslist in my area, which are at a low price in that spec range.
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Which is good advice, if I was looking to spend more than $75-100 at the moment. My phone broke and I'd like a midline replacement for it, and there are a few Rezounds on Craigslist in my area, which are at a low price in that spec range.
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Tough price range for a comparable phone... I sold one of my Rezounds on local classified ads board for $150 a month or so. But I would assume you can grab a 3G/4G GSM phone for around the same price range, just take a little more homework.
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Tough price range for a comparable phone... I sold one of my Rezounds on local classified ads board for $150 a month or so. But I would assume you can grab a 3G/4G GSM phone for around the same price range, just take a little more homework.
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Time is kind of an issue for me and the pricing is also one. I am going to save money up for a nicer phone at some point, but this is what's available in the price range I can afford in this time range for a phone I don't plan on owning forever.
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Time is kind of an issue for me and the pricing is also one. I am going to save money up for a nicer phone at some point, but this is what's available in the price range I can afford in this time range for a phone I don't plan on owning forever.
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To be honest, if you can't do Verizon post-paid I would skip the Rezound unless you are very skilled at modding Android on a deeper level than root and ROMs or can live without mobile data (voice and SMS will work)...
Using the Rezound on a US GSM carrier with mobile data is very hit and miss and some people can get it to work and others can't.
I love my Rezound, but I have a hard time recommending it for a quick GSM phone.
I know the 6P won't be sold through the carriers, at least not right away. I'm a Tmo subscriber and I was a little disappointed at first but buying the phone and paying for it in full is always the best route.
With that being said are you with Tmo? What area of the country are you in? Having issues or are new services going live? Questions about service with past or the new nexus device? Let's keep each other updated with what's going on with our carrier.
I've had just about every nexus phone while on Tmo. I had spotty service for awhile but over the years service has gotten much better for me in the Orlando area. This past year I've seen almost all the 3g towers turn into LTE. I got to use HD voice for the first time on my nexus 6. VOLTE got turned on. Band 12 going live (although not in my area, I've used it in other FL markets) Going forward to the 6P are we going lose some of these? I've already seen a report that band 12 will not be unlocked at launch for our device. Will volte be available? HD voice? None of these are deal breakers but it would suck to have such a cutting edge device yet it can't access some basic phone functions. What are your thoughts/insight?
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when they see that sales are going down they will be dropping the price and eipin the phone just take a couple months
But i dont want to wait that long.. Ive saved my Jump and wanted the newest nexus again... Damn you
1SiK1500 said:
But i dont want to wait that long.. Ive saved my Jump and wanted the newest nexus again... Damn you
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why even bother with the jump program? buy phone outright and sell old phone. no restrictions, change phones whenever you want and probably cheaper.
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why even bother with the jump program? buy phone outright and sell old phone. no restrictions, change phones whenever you want and probably cheaper.
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I'm not a fan of jump either however not everyone can afford the full price, some people are fortunate to be able to.
I guess it's kinda like leasing your car but of course a way lower price.
I love buying unlocked phones and now that tmobiles prices are so low it really works out
Even with the jump program you are paying full price for the phone. It just gives you the option to trade in without worrying about negative equity, like a car. But I guarantee you the first time you buy a new car cash you'll set yourself up for life to never have a car payment again, this is so much easier to do with a phone... So much easier.
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Even with the jump program you are paying full price for the phone. It just gives you the option to trade in without worrying about negative equity, like a car. But I guarantee you the first time you buy a new car cash you'll set yourself up for life to never have a car payment again, this is so much easier to do with a phone... So much easier.
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I think most people who get the jump program get it because they can't afford to pay the full price up front, even if they are paying the same in the end or maybe sometimes you pay more for a device when you could've gotten an unlocked device (same or better) for cheaper
I actually began my Nexus 6 purchase through finance. I figured hey, it's 0% who cares. I started to think of bills and life from a more DTI based perspective vs my older, borrow at low or no interest and invest to get more mindset.
Once you start paying off everything with a payment (no matter how low the interest) you start to have so much excess cash monthly that you realize WTF you've been doing wrong your whole life. It also makes it a lot easier to save and invest.
Anyway back on topic, I don't think carriers will be getting the 6P. But if anyone did, it would probably be T-Mobile
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if anyone did, it would probably be T-Mobile
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Since the thing will not be supporting band 12 on t-mobile, at least not right away, I'd think not.
Edit: Hah! Soon!
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/3mzygu/google_nexus_team_ama_working_to_get_band_12/
Why pay full price for the phone? I have the original Jump program. So i pay $27/Month. In one year I paid $324 and traded the phone in for the next Nexus. I didnt have to shell out the full $650. I dont know but it works fine for me. Only phone i care about are the nexus devices. Its a Big deal when i can simply walk into the store hand them my old phone keep all my Chargers and accessories and walk out with a new phone paying only taxes..
I just pre-ordered one and I feel that Jump may not offer a good deal. I've been hearing a lot about Google Fi so that does seem like a better option overall. Also, you would lose out on the $50 play credit and three months of free Google Play Music unless you get it before Oct 25. I'll be using mine for T-Mobile and I'd only hold on ordering to look over reviews, but it's a Nexus device so it should be pretty solid. I agree with many in here that not everyone can pay full price, but with Jump you are still paying quite a bit of money. It's just better to buy it up front then sell the old phone after.
One of the things mentioned in the Reddit AMA today was they're attempting to work with TMobile on getting the Band 12 turned on prior to the device getting to everyone. So at least they're acknowledging the issue.
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They're not selling the Nexus 6P in U.S. carrier stores... So we don't have the option to use Jump! or Jump! On Demand. I have a Galaxy S6 on Jump! On Demand that I'm a few months into... I purchased a 6P outright and will use 1 of my 3 upgrades w/ T-Moible to go w/ something else, and not pay a dime at the store. I switch phones a TON so for me Jump! On Demand is awesome. I will say though, once I am done with this current EIP, I will try to stay with unlocked phones and just pay outright for them. My monthly bill will be a lot cheaper.
As far as the band 12 support; if they get it fixed by ship date, great. If not, oh well... I don't have access to band 12 where I am (Columbus, Ohio), so I'm not missing anything if they don't have it fixed. I'm sure when/if it gets activated here this will be fixed.
In the Reddit AMA;
They ignored every question about why they are not selling through US Carriers. This was the most commonly asked question.
I'm like thinking, that's one of the most important questions, why will this not be sold in U.S. Carrier stores ? Especially T-Mobile stores, as they have carried and stocked every single Nexus phone the past six years. I could see Verizon or ATT not selling it, but T-Mobile has been a big supporter of the Nexus phones, as far as carriers go.
So the Nexus 6P will be nowhere to be seen or played with in stores, you just have to hope you think you'll like it and order it online only ? That's crazy. I always want to hold it in hand, mess around it with it for 30 minutes in the store, really get a feel for the phone, before deciding.
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In the Reddit AMA;
They ignored every question about why they are not selling through US Carriers. This was the most commonly asked question.
I'm like thinking, that's one of the most important questions, why will this not be sold in U.S. Carrier stores ? Especially T-Mobile stores, as they have carried and stocked every single Nexus phone the past six years. I could see Verizon or ATT not selling it, but T-Mobile has been a big supporter of the Nexus phones, as far as carriers go.
So the Nexus 6P will be nowhere to be seen or played with in stores, you just have to hope you think you'll like it and order it online only ? That's crazy. I always want to hold it in hand, mess around it with it for 30 minutes in the store, really get a feel for the phone, before deciding.
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I'm sure that They will be available at some point. Google has given exclusivity for the first couple months before, this time it's to themselves. Maybe they want to get the preorders out without a disaster like previous releases. On the bright side we get great pricing compared to the rest of the world
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Yeah, Rumor is they could offer them in stores later this month to avoid the instant rush of phone orders. They sell direct first then allow carries to carry a few models if wanted.
That Reddit AMA was filled with tons of questions asking about U.S. Carrier availability, and they didn't respond once.
Wonder if that got them thinking, hey maybe we should put this out to T-Mobile and other carriers maybe ? I could see that happening after the rush of Play Store orders, and be in stores come December. I bet T-Mobile at least carries it by Christmas, just my guess.
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That Reddit AMA was filled with tons of questions asking about U.S. Carrier availability, and they didn't respond once.
Wonder if that got them thinking, hey maybe we should put this out to T-Mobile and other carriers maybe ? I could see that happening after the rush of Play Store orders, and be in stores come December. I bet T-Mobile at least carries it by Christmas, just my guess.
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I'm wondering if part of the reason is so they can say see how many devices we sold without you, you're not getting customized builds this time.
If they announce carrier availability it would just eat into their own direct sales.
I'd be shocked if this doesn't ultimately get on carriers in a quarter or so.
I'm still upset no Nexus 6P at U.S. Carrier stores, especially T-Mobile.
And I call BS on Google's excuse, that they want full control and no carrier slow downs no carrier involvement mucking things up.
Apple
Carriers don't get in the way of Apple and iOS updates. A Verizon or ATT iPhone 6S get's updated straight from Apple, you don't see Verizon users waiting longer for the iOS update, than an international iPhone user, or Apple having to give the update to ATT first and then let them, hand out the update later to it's customers.
Nope, if you have a Sprint, or T-Mobile, or Verizon iPhone, you just go to iTunes or Apple for the update, and they have the update available at the exact the same time, no matter which carrier phone you own.
My point is, carriers aren't in the way whatsoever, and Apple sells a **** ton of iPhone's through these carriers. How many sales of iPhone's are done directly through the Apple store and site only, like Google wants people to buy the Nexus 6P through the Play Store only ?
Google should sell the Nexus 6P at U.S. Carrier stores, and not give the BS excuse it's because of updates or some crap.