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Hey guys, i have been writing and re writing different Rom to my phone for about a year now. But last night the worst thing that could happen happened. I did a backup of my external sd card and a titanium backup before writing the rc3 Rom final gingerbread clone to my phone. Well after writing it i decided i did not want it. So as any other time i just booted into recovery and looked for my nandriod backup and none of my backups were under restore. I realize now
that my backups including my titanium backups must have been on my actual phone and had been wiped. How can i avoid this problem in the future. I thought overtime i wiped my phone
and restored it, it was because i had my stuff on my sd card. I have a nandriod folder backed up from my external sd card but that seems to be worthless at this point. Any advice would help. Thanks, signed starting over.... Lol
you are correct in that all of your backups are originally stored in your phone memory (/sdcard) not your external sd card (sdcard/external_sd) unless you physically move them yourself or re-set the destination in each program. For example my nandroids are in (sdcard/clockworkmod/backup), TB in(sdcard/TitaniumBackup), and sms/mms in (sdcard/SMSBackupRestore
Usually flashing a new ROM will not wipe my internal or external sdcard. If anything it will wipe the INTERNAL sdcard not your external.
In any case backing up your backups is a good idea. Simply move them from their location to your PC. Voila! now you have all your backups stored on your PC.(aren't i smart) Now heres a little TOP SECRET tip..... ever since i started having mount to PC issues on random ROM/kernel combination's I keep a hidden nandroid backup in my external sdcard I always move my last nandroid there heres my path (sdcard/external_sd/backup/TOPSECRET/hiddenfile/poop/)... this makes it easy to pull your last nandroid just in case your internal does get wiped. Hope this helps
thank you for your reply...
Hi,
I've looked around, but noone had same problem as me.
I have Titanium Backup, and i did a backup on my 34 apps to my externals SD. Today i installed new ROM so i wanted to restore these apps, but titanium can't do this.
This is how i do:
1. I went in to Preferences --> restoration settings --> "Restore backups to..." and there is choosed "external media".
2. I went back to first screen --> batch---> restore , but there's no apps there at all.
Please help.
Sounds like you didn't backup your SD card which contains the Titanium backups you have made before installing the new rom. Your new ROM may have formatted your SD card, am I correct?
Deeco7 said:
Sounds like you didn't backup your SD card which contains the Titanium backups you have made before installing the new rom. Your new ROM may have formatted your SD card, am I correct?
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No, all the files are at the SD card, i made a map called "titanium backup" where i placed all the backups, and they're still there. But titanium wont restore these.
Pretty lame, i bought the pro version for the "single click" function, meaning restore everything in single click, but it's useless if i can't save these to SD card.
Edit: I tried move the entire folder to internal SD, but same, titanium wont recognize anything.
Darwichee said:
No, all the files are at the SD card, i made a map called "titanium backup" where i placed all the backups, and they're still there. But titanium wont restore these.
Pretty lame, i bought the pro version for the "single click" function, meaning restore everything in single click, but it's useless if i can't save these to SD card.
Edit: I tried move the entire folder to internal SD, but same, titanium wont recognize anything.
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Oh ok, try checking the file sizes of the backup and let me know.
Check TB preferences for backup location, and scan the entire device it should locate the folder with your backups.
And from then on that will be your backup folder.
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Check TB preferences for backup location, and scan the entire device it should locate the folder with your backups.
And from then on that will be your backup folder.
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Thanks i managed to solve this now, and now TB can find those apps, but when i press begin and it begins to restoring, nothing happens, it stuck at 0%, does this happend to you to when you use your external SD to restore?
I've tried 3 times now, and it allways stuck at 0%.
Edit: i moved the folder to Phones internal memory, but same, it wont load my backups.
What could be the problem?
I had this problem once too.
copy the folder with the TB backups to our PC and formate the sd card. additionally I reinstalled the whole rom too. And after that try again. It worked for me.
blacksec said:
I had this problem once too.
copy the folder with the TB backups to our PC and formate the sd card. additionally I reinstalled the whole rom too. And after that try again. It worked for me.
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Ok, i installed a new ROM today anyway, and i formated my external SD too. Is it enogh to format it in phone settings, or i need to do it in PC, or it doesn't matter?
I get back if i still have the same problem again,
thanks
for me it worked with the recovery formatting tool.
Hi
I read about this in a thread...
You might want to try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432699
Hy guys, there is something I dont understand about nandroid. I flashed my rom, kernel, downloaded apps, change setting, homescreen etc. and now i would like to back it up exactly as it is. I read that nandroid is best for that but it doesnt backup sd card? whats up with that. I look at my sd card with root explorer and there are many folder and files that were made by apps when they were insteled on the phone.Does it backup that also? Also i have many apps, apps2sd, will it make backup of them also?
It won't back up your entire phone onto your phone. It would get really big with all the music, videos, etc, that a person might have. If you have your external card mounted then you can attach via a USB cable to your computer then either with adb or with a file manager copy all of /mnt/sdcard youlle get the important things that nandroid does not. The exception I can think of is that it doesn't seem to back up your modem firmware, so if your partial to a particular one then just have it as a flashable file.
Ok, thanks, so it doesnt backup internal sd card because someone told me yesterday that it does? If i copy the entire sd card to PC and latter copy it back to mobile like that will it work. First i recover nandroid backup, than i format internal sd card and than copy all the files back to sd card.
A Nandroid backup will copy a lot, but it can't copy everything or there wouldn't be room on the device for it to be practical. It is quite supprising how much it will keep; it just isn't a complete backup solution is all.
Addressing your question though, as for copying the entire sd card, you really only need to copy the folder /mnt/sdcard or /sdcard ; the latter is a symlink to /mnt/sdcard
If you try to copy your entire sdcard then it is possible to end up with data from partitions that will take forever to copy and that you really don't want, for example /proc on the phone is just kernel information that doesn't even exist when the phone is turned off. To keep things simple, everything is part of the ROM and kernel except for /mnt/sdcard and in the case of and external sd card, /mnt/sdcard/external_sd but the latter (/mnt/sdcard/external_sd) will be copied along with the first one provided it is mounted when you do it.
The only other exception to what needs to be backed up is a partition called /efs and there are various tutorials with various methods about how to do that. I would follow one of them rather than just copying the data out as its a partition that holds unique information about the phone that it can't function with if it gets messed up. This is more immediately important and I think there's quite simply some apps that will do it for you if you look at the sticky threads here. The files will be on your phone though so you'lle want to pull them off on to your computer for sure.
As for your friend's advice, though, you won't typically ever need more than a Nandroid backup unless something happens to that other data, for example if there's filesystem corruption. If you do a restore of your ROM then it still retains all your music and photo goodies or whatever, app settings get wiped though where they are retained with Nandroid. The only thing that I'd worry about is if the impending update to Ice Cream Sandwhich somehow wipes suff, or if you play around at the command line a lot make a mistake unintentionally. If it weren't for the updates and beta ICS releases we're seeing then I'd simply be telling you not to worry about it, but to back things up and be done with it.
By the way, doesn't Kies back things up? I don't have it so I don't remember but it seems like that's how I initially got things onto it and that it has a sync option. Perhaps this is enough?....
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Hy guys, there is something I dont understand about nandroid. I flashed my rom, kernel, downloaded apps, change setting, homescreen etc. and now i would like to back it up exactly as it is. I read that nandroid is best for that but it doesnt backup sd card? whats up with that. I look at my sd card with root explorer and there are many folder and files that were made by apps when they were insteled on the phone.Does it backup that also? Also i have many apps, apps2sd, will it make backup of them also?
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Man just do the backup and don't worry about the sd card files/folders. The reason it doesn't back them up is because they stay there anyway. Eg, if you uninstall an app, a folder that was created by it on your sd card is still there. Flashing firmware, including wipe versions doesn't touch the 11.5gb internal storage or external storage.
BTW, most of my internal sd card is used up and 25gb is used up on my external card. If the backup was to include those a 64gb memory card wouldn't be enough.
Between the S1 and S2 I've backed up and restored over 100 times, including after fully wiping the phone (but not formatting sd cards) and the phone always looks and functions exactly as before, including apps.
So, only copy memory card files to PC if you intend to format the internal / external cards or if you are worried you might lose stuff if the memories become corrupted.
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Thanks guys for you help. I dont use Kies also so i dont know and, yes, i format sd card before flashing every rom so i would probably format it also before making restore of nandroid backup. Also when i delete some app a delete a folder created by it on sd card. OK, than i will make a nandroid backup and copy mnt/sdcard on PC so if it ever gets corupted i can restore everything. As for efs folder, Neak kerenl made a backup of that automatic so i just made a copy of that on PC.
Every so often I go though the folders on the sd cards and clean them up a little but I have never formatted the sd cards. I don't really think you should do it with every flash.
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I want to redo my phone like I just got it. I'm going re-flash everything with either the stock rom or a custom rom. What needs to be on the original card? Like starting from new without all the cluttered folders and random files.
I have updated ie. Hboot 1.5, radios, 2.17 and S-off still.
You should make a backup of your SD card "its always nice to have a backup"
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Also I suggest making a nandroid backup before backing up your SD card so you will have a copy of a recent nandroid in your SD backup incase you have to restore it one day.
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""Warning"" if you do this and still have applications on your phone/current Rom that have placed folders/that are linked to/on the SD card you could experience force closes,app freezes etc. To fix this uninstall and reinstall the application.
""End of Warning"'
This can be done via Windows 7,Vista,xp.
Format your SD VIA pc/laptop and restore it to the factory defaults. Then put it back into your phone. Then boot up. Once booted into your Rom hit menu then choose settings. Then scroll down to "SD & phone storage" and tap on it. Then unmount the SD card. Then format the SD card. Once its done formating it will automatically mount the SD card and place the correct folders on it. Reboot afterwards and you should be good to go. Hope this helps.
Also here's a link you might find helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10878511&postcount=8311
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If you are going to do a factory reset or a rom flash, you should be ok wiping the card. If you were to try to wipe the card with the current rom you are on, you will run into problems as all your apps will freak out when they see their data missing.
And you don't need to have anything on the sd card from the start. Wipe the card, then flash your new rom and put the card in, android should format it properly the first time. It will just add the required folders/paths that it needs.
I am on a sprint LGLS990, rooted with twrp. I have just started doing backups. I did one the other day on the internal storage which worked fine. Now I'm doing a bu on the external sd and worked well until generating md5. Its said this for the last 30 minutes. It appears that it is stuck. Is there any way to stop or cancel this?? I tried pushing any of the hardware buttons in back, but power just locks it, then I swipe to unlock it. Please help!! I don't know if I can do a battery pull or not if that would stop it, but I definately dont want to ruin my ext sd card as I have sensitive info that I need.
Update - I did a battery pull and it just seemed to reboot it. Nothing wrong with my external SD card that I can see. I can successfully do a backup on internal but everytime I try on external it gets stuck on generating md5. I have searched google but can't come up with anyone that has had the same issue on the g3. It's a sprint with model LG LG 990.Any help would be greatly appreciated. Just a thought, are there any other recoveries that work on my model g3?
jreink01 said:
I am on a sprint LGLS990, rooted with twrp. I have just started doing backups. I did one the other day on the internal storage which worked fine. Now I'm doing a bu on the external sd and worked well until generating md5. Its said this for the last 30 minutes. It appears that it is stuck. Is there any way to stop or cancel this?? I tried pushing any of the hardware buttons in back, but power just locks it, then I swipe to unlock it. Please help!! I don't know if I can do a battery pull or not if that would stop it, but I definately dont want to ruin my ext sd card as I have sensitive info that I need.
Update - I did a battery pull and it just seemed to reboot it. Nothing wrong with my external SD card that I can see. I can successfully do a backup on internal but everytime I try on external it gets stuck on generating md5. I have searched google but can't come up with anyone that has had the same issue on the g3. It's a sprint with model LG LG 990.Any help would be greatly appreciated. Just a thought, are there any other recoveries that work on my model g3?
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Is the card larger than 32GB, and formatted as exFAT? If so, that's likely the problem. Our bumped version of TWRP has a bug affected the ability to read exFAT cards. If so, you can copy all the data off to a PC (or Mac), reformat the card as FAT32, and test it out. Here's some info on how to reformat the card to FAT32:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57286346&postcount=30
meyerweb said:
Is the card larger than 32GB, and formatted as exFAT? If so, that's likely the problem. Our bumped version of TWRP has a bug affected the ability to read exFAT cards. If so, you can copy all the data off to a PC (or Mac), reformat the card as FAT32, and test it out. Here's some info on how to reformat the card to FAT32:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57286346&postcount=30
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Its a 64gb card and I'm not sure if it was formatted as exfat. I will try your suggestion. Will I lose any storage space by formatting the card to fat32?
jreink01 said:
Its a 64gb card and I'm not sure if it was formatted as exfat. I will try your suggestion. Will I lose any storage space by formatting the card to fat32?
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If it's 64GB, it was probably formatted as exFAT from the factory. And yeah, you'll probably lose some storage space by formatting it as FAT32. How much will depend on what you have stored on the card. A lot of small files will waste more space than the same number of large files.
I just copied the external card to my desktop. I tried opening it up but it wouldn't open, saying it could not open that file. I even tried to extract and it said the same thing. I don't want to erase my card unless I know for a fact that my files are safe. With some apps, I have over 2 years of sensitive data that I can't afford to lose. Maybe it might be easier to just do a backup on my internal, then just copy and paste to my external.
There's a new TWRP that I believe fixes the exFAT bug:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=22315
meyerweb said:
There's a new TWRP that I believe fixes the exFAT bug:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=22315
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I just did a backup on external SD. It appears to be working. The only thing is that it took 30 minutes to backup.
I am rooted and have the latest twrp recovery, think it is 2.8.2. On this version, I am able to save my backup directly to ext sd. I have noticed however that when I do a backup, it takes between 30 to 40 minutes to do one. However, I just did a restore last night and it took over a hour and a half. I have only had the phone about 2 weeks. When I had my S3, doing backup would takes kess than 10 minutes, same with restores. Is this normal or is something amiss?? Thanks for the feedback.
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I have also noticed that when backing up to the internal that it takes just a few minutes, now when I backup onto the ext sd it takes about 20 minutes. The issue I had above I believe is connected when I used twrp manager instead of booting directly into recovery from the power menu. But its still taking alot longer to backup on my ext vs the internal. What would be the cause of that??
It seems most have issues if you SD is more than 32g.
The recommended format seems to be Fat32 on any card. That may be your issue. TWRP shouldn't be taking any extra time.
engine95 said:
It seems most have issues if you SD is more than 32g.
The recommended format seems to be Fat32 on any card. That may be your issue. TWRP shouldn't be taking any extra time.
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I'm just wondering when I had my S3, I had the same card and did backups with both phiz and twrp and never had any of these issues and the backup and restore times were usually under 5 minutes. Now with the G3 I am having these issues.
jreink01 said:
I'm just wondering when I had my S3, I had the same card and did backups with both phiz and twrp and never had any of these issues and the backup and restore times were usually under 5 minutes. Now with the G3 I am having these issues.
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It probably wouldn't hurt to format it and start over. Just like in the other thread I just answered you in. Start fresh and clean since you're starting with a different phone anyway.
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It probably wouldn't hurt to format it and start over. Just like in the other thread I just answered you in. Start fresh and clean since you're starting with a different phone anyway.
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I just formatted for 64gb sd card, moved all my files back onto the card, checked on my pc and it said fat32 under properties. I did a backup and halfway through the data backup it failed. I have updated twrp to 2.8.3.
Any suggestions on why I can't use the external card??
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I just formatted for 64gb sd card, moved all my files back onto the card, checked on my pc and it said fat32 under properties. I did a backup and halfway through the data backup it failed. I have updated twrp to 2.8.3.
Any suggestions on why I can't use the external card??
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Did you format it in Windows/Linux as Fat32? Then move your files to it, and put it in the phone.
You may need to format it as 2 partitions.
Other than that, I really don't know what else to say.
engine95 said:
Did you format it in Windows/Linux as Fat32? Then move your files to it, and put it in the phone.
You may need to format it as 2 partitions.
Other than that, I really don't know what else to say.
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I formatted it in Windows 8 but I had to use a third party program as Windows only had the options ntfc and exfat. I first deleted all my files, then formatted and copied all my files back, then inserted back in phone and tried a backup. In the third party software, I don't it gave a option to split the partitions.
Am I the only one having issues with creating and restoring backups on the external SD or ate others having the same issues?
Anyone else having issues backing up and restoring to the external sd card??
I'm just wondering when I was on the stock rom (with twrp recovery), I never had a issues backing up and restoring to the external sd card. Seems like this might be rom related, don't know, just a guess.
Also, are there any other recoveries that work with the G3, since it appears that twrp still has bugs.
I'm guessing not.
Pull your SD card out, or just make it backup to internal just to rule out TWRP.
Then maybe try a smaller card to make sure it's not your phone, or the pins for the SD card.
If the smaller card works, then you know it's the 64g card. It it doesn't, then it's got to be your phone.
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I'm guessing not.
Pull your SD card out, or just make it backup to internal just to rule out TWRP.
Then maybe try a smaller card to make sure it's not your phone, or the pins for the SD card.
If the smaller card works, then you know it's the 64g card. It it doesn't, then it's got to be your phone.
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I have done backups through internal and everything works fine. I think I might have a 32 gb card around somewhere, if I can find it, I will try that and let you know the results, thanks.
jreink01 said:
I have done backups through internal and everything works fine. I think I might have a 32 gb card around somewhere, if I can find it, I will try that and let you know the results, thanks.
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I just did a backup on my 32gb sd card. This card has not been formatted, its stock. It did do a backup but it took 40 minutes to do it. It appeared to get stuck on the last 1000 files when backing up data, the last 1000 files took over 15 minutes itself. I just did another backup, this time on my internal, it took only 5 minutes. How come its taking so long backing up to exernal, and thats with the 32gb card, still doesn't work on my 64gb card. Is anyone else have issues with backing up on a 64gb card?? I would like to know if i am a isolated issue or if others are having the same issues.
Try using Partition Master to format the 64GB card as FAT32, instead of exFAT.
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm