So I have done a lot of googling and I don't think it exists but not sure why not.
I am looking for an android app that allows direct dialing through Google voice (over data not normal minutes). It should be completely possible via XMPP (if I am not mistaken). Ideally it could be highly integrated with the default dialer and be the perfect android VoIP solution.
I really want to move to a data only plan (tmo $30 prepaid 5gb+).
Is something technically preventing this, are there any projects already working on this? Or any developers ready to take a shot I would throw in some money and I am sure a lot of other people would too.
BTW phone is a Samsung Galaxy S II (T-Mobile) SGH-T989 if there are device specific concerns
Found one
Ok so while doing a semi-unrelated search I came across GrooVe IP. Seems to be exactly what I am looking for and seems to have good review. So with that out there anyone know of any others?
Update: been useing it on my SGS2 (T-Mobile) out in Afghanistan and even over a low bandwidth (128kb/64kb) high latency Sat internet connection quality is suprisingly good. Can't wait to see how well it performs over 3g+.
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Hi All.
I've had an X10 mini pro on T-Mobile UK for nearly a year, and love it, but I am faced with a problem:
At work, I get absoluteley no signal. However, there are Wifi networks everywhere that are freeley available. It seemed logical to me that I aught to be able to get my phone to use those wifi networks to obtain a signal, so I did some research and found this generally to be reffered to as UMA (Unliceneced Mobile Access?)
For anyone who's coming across this technology for the first time, this is a facility which allows your mobile phone to use wifi connections as a backup for service signal, and switch seemlessley between them for use on calls (through your regular phone number [NOT VOIP!]) and texts.
I've read a lot of conflicting oppinions and statements on this, and wanted to ask here (In a place of expert knowledge and understanding) what the real truth is behind all this.
1: Is UMA a hardware or software based tool?
-I've heared numerous statements on this, including:
a) "Your phone can not do this if you don't have the correct hardware"
b) "The standard hardware (provided you have wifi access) is all you need, only the software needs to allow support"
C) "You need sufficient wifi technology AND the correct software to enable this"
Which is true?
2: "Service Providers are holding back on UMA support as it removes their justification for charging the user for calls"
- I've seen this in a few places, but it doesn't make sense to me. Sureley, despite the fact that the call is connected by a wifi signal, it still needs to find its way through a telephone exchange. Telephone exchanges cost money to maintain and manage, so that can't be right? can it?
- If anything, sureley this would give service providers a competative advantage as they can guarentee better signal coverage. It would seem more logical to me that the issue is less with the hand set, but with the providers managing the incoming and outgoing call data via the wifi network?
3: "UMA is/isn't supportend on android version X.X"?
- Again, I've seen conflicting info on this. What's the score?
Thought this was the right place to discuss all this and find the real truth behind UMA. My final question of course being:
4: Is there a UMA app or method by which I can use wifi as a signal backup? If not, is anyone looking into it and how soon may users see the benefits?
Appreciate any light that can be shead on this to dispurse the smoke and mirrors that seenm to surround it.
Thanks,
Oliver
hmmm
Supprised noone's responded to this... did I miss something?
In the USA, T-mobile has an app that does this. T-mobile USA uses the term wi-fi calling.
Is there such a thing in the UK? I know that the Optimus T (essentially the same as Optimus One) has this ability. I found this list of phones that work with this feature on T-mobile USA.
Phones that can make use of this new feature:
Blackberry 8520
Blackberry Bold 9780
Samsung Vibrant (SGH-T959)
Samsung Vibrant II (Galaxy S 4G)
LG Optimus T
myTouch 3G Slide
myTouch 4G
Motorola Defy
Motorola Cliq 2
Motorola Cliq XT
Sidekick 4G
G2
G2X
Nokia Astound (C7-00)
Nokia Mode (E73)
Samsung t339
Some other older android phones can work as long as the app has been ported for the device. Very YMMV
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I do not think your phone is available through T-mobile USA, so it is not on the list. Someone figured out how to bring wi-fi calling to non-tmobile Roms for the Optimus T/Optimus One phone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116268 However, I am fairly certain that this type of app needs the cooperation of your carrier to work.
Action_Man_1 said:
Hi All.
I've had an X10 mini pro on T-Mobile UK for nearly a year, and love it, but I am faced with a problem:
At work, I get absoluteley no signal. However, there are Wifi networks everywhere that are freeley available. It seemed logical to me that I aught to be able to get my phone to use those wifi networks to obtain a signal, so I did some research and found this generally to be reffered to as UMA (Unliceneced Mobile Access?)
For anyone who's coming across this technology for the first time, this is a facility which allows your mobile phone to use wifi connections as a backup for service signal, and switch seemlessley between them for use on calls (through your regular phone number [NOT VOIP!]) and texts.
I've read a lot of conflicting oppinions and statements on this, and wanted to ask here (In a place of expert knowledge and understanding) what the real truth is behind all this.
1: Is UMA a hardware or software based tool?
-I've heared numerous statements on this, including:
a) "Your phone can not do this if you don't have the correct hardware"
b) "The standard hardware (provided you have wifi access) is all you need, only the software needs to allow support"
C) "You need sufficient wifi technology AND the correct software to enable this"
Which is true?
2: "Service Providers are holding back on UMA support as it removes their justification for charging the user for calls"
- I've seen this in a few places, but it doesn't make sense to me. Sureley, despite the fact that the call is connected by a wifi signal, it still needs to find its way through a telephone exchange. Telephone exchanges cost money to maintain and manage, so that can't be right? can it?
- If anything, sureley this would give service providers a competative advantage as they can guarentee better signal coverage. It would seem more logical to me that the issue is less with the hand set, but with the providers managing the incoming and outgoing call data via the wifi network?
3: "UMA is/isn't supportend on android version X.X"?
- Again, I've seen conflicting info on this. What's the score?
Thought this was the right place to discuss all this and find the real truth behind UMA. My final question of course being:
4: Is there a UMA app or method by which I can use wifi as a signal backup? If not, is anyone looking into it and how soon may users see the benefits?
Appreciate any light that can be shead on this to dispurse the smoke and mirrors that seenm to surround it.
Thanks,
Oliver
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Try this solution, T-Mobile and Orange have done a deal where they can use eachothers signals, go back to netwoork settings and you should find " T-Mobile-Orange 3G"... Connect to that and it may work.
It seems that T-Mobile and Orange both have very bad coverage compared to other competators.
I have an ATT Samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 SGH-i497. I am trying to see if I there is a ROM that I can install on my device to make the GSM calls functioning just as in the Samsung tab 2 10.1 GT-P5100.
Please help...
Same problem with me.
Its hurting that even loading data packages becomes tedious.
I have to remove the sim card and insert it into some phone to do that since here in Uganda, Africa, we use codes to do that eg *100#
then reinsert it back into the tablet to use the data.
Kabbak said:
Same problem with me.
Its hurting that even loading data packages becomes tedious.
I have to remove the sim card and insert it into some phone to do that since here in Uganda, Africa, we use codes to do that eg *100#
then reinsert it back into the tablet to use the data.
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Add me to this request to see if we can make this Samsung Tab2 gsm calling capable.
Thanks
Voice Call Workaround
Sorry I'm late to this party. I recently purchased this tablet on eBay in pristine condition, and it is amazing. I started right away experimenting with voice calling. I purchased a SIM from Straight Talk with the usual unlimited plan (just like I would for a cell phone) and popped it in. The tablet had no problems recognizing the SIM and the phone number on it. Based on the hardware, at least from what I can see, the tablet seems to have the physical ability to handle calls so I suspect the inability to do so is software-related. However, I'm not a ROM expert (nowhere near - just a noob who knows enough to be dangerous), so I didn't feel like taking that risk. So, I found another solution - VOIP.
Since the tablet supports both WIFI and 3G/4G/LTE, a VOIP number that can be carried on those data streams would work. I tested this by creating a Google Voice number, and downloading the new Hangouts dialer app and got everything set up. Sure enough, I am now able to make and receive voice calls using this method. The SIM would ensure that I have data when no WIFI is available. Per the specs, this tablet should support HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100, so T-Mobile's $30/mo 5gig plan seems like a good cheaper option as I don't need the talk minutes anyway.
I know that a native voice solution would be preferable, but, in the meantime, this is a decent workaround that solved my problem, and hopefully could prove useful to someone.
SGH-1497
DO I hate this Tablet?
I got it mainly for the sim. slapped a ST sim in and away I go. See a phone app in ROM Manager See all the would leave me to believe I can make in and out calls on this thing. As of Jan 15 is this a forgotten relic and a crock of stewed crap to mess with to get working? If so Im heading for ebay or so,ewhere I want a 10.1 that I can use ST on and have 4G LTE. Can anyone reply to me where and what I need to make this happen. I just bought this for 100 bucks and I wont smash it into the wall but not real interested in it. With GO SMS it gives me a Straight Talk number and I can text with it but no dialer with a phone app running in the background? geez kick in the purse anyone?
Pls i need custom recovery for samsung tab 2 sgh i497
Hi folks,
I'm looking to possibly switch to T-Mobile, but I know that coverage is spotty in my home town. (I don't go home often... Maybe once or twice a month for a weekend)
Because of the spotty coverage, wifi calling is a feature of T-Mobile that is very appealing to me, but I've been hearing rumors that their wifi calling feature doesn't work unless you purchase the phone directly from T-Mobile (which obviously cannot be done).
However, I do remember seeing a screenshot of the Xperia Z5 Compact's wifi calling settings and there was a tab listed for T-Mobile. Now why would a phone include wifi calling options for a specific carrier if that carrier refuses to support that phone?
Now let's say there is no way to trick the Z5 into letting me use wifi calling on T-Mobile... I read an article stating that CM13 will support T-Mobile's wifi calling. If CM13 was developed for the Z5C, would that do the trick?
Praying that someone with some more experience can shed some light on this matter. Is there any hope for me?
T-mobile announced that they'll be giving mini towers to customers for free (that's not wifi calling but an actual LTE tower for your house that uses your internet connection) so you can just call them up and ask when they'll start sending them out.
Does it just generate an LTE signal? That works well if the phone had working T-Mobile voice over LTE; which i'm not sure it would if I purchased an unlocked model. That router would be great for my home, but I'm concerned for other areas of my hometown, where I actually would need service (for example: car accident). If I could connect to a local coffee shop's wifi connection to make calls; that would make my life so much easier. I would hate to only have service in my home because that would make me feel bound to my house.
JGoldz75 said:
Does it just generate an LTE signal? That works well if the phone had working T-Mobile voice over LTE; which i'm not sure it would if I purchased an unlocked model. That router would be great for my home, but I'm concerned for other areas of my hometown, where I actually would need service (for example: car accident). If I could connect to a local coffee shop's wifi connection to make calls; that would make my life so much easier. I would hate to only have service in my home because that would make me feel bound to my house.
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It's only phone based: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-24269
FYI, I did use T-Mobile on an unlocked, unsupported phone last year for few months and I don't recall ever not having phone signal. Data is another story but calls were always available and I do travel a lot across the world. Their international data is pure BS - it just doesn't work.
And finally, the T-Mobile WiFi calling menu you saw is for the old T-Mobile in the UK that has now been merged into EE. You can flash that firmware but it probably won't work with the USA version depending on what moron wrote the integration and how much configuration data they hardcoded in the app or if it works it might be connecting to a UK gateway.
weasal said:
It's only phone based: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-24269
FYI, I did use T-Mobile on an unlocked, unsupported phone last year for few months and I don't recall ever not having phone signal. Data is another story but calls were always available and I do travel a lot across the world. Their international data is pure BS - it just doesn't work.
And finally, the T-Mobile WiFi calling menu you saw is for the old T-Mobile in the UK that has now been merged into EE. You can flash that firmware but it probably won't work with the USA version depending on what moron wrote the integration and how much configuration data they hardcoded in the app or if it works it might be connecting to a UK gateway.
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It's not that I think the phone will not have service because it's unlocked. T-Mobile just doesn't have great coverage in my hometown area at all. I did the Test-Drive a couple months back and remember getting 0-1 bars at all times... never holding on to a signal long enough to make a single phone call or send a text message. Thanks for the insight into the T-Mobile - EE thing. I didn't realize that. It would be lovely if it did work in the USA but I doubt it The T-Mobile Nexus 5 (arguably one of the most modded phones out there) never got t-mo wifi calling so I doubt this will.
Thank you!
Just so you know, I flashed to EE (even though technically I'm on MetroPCS which is a T-Mobile subsidiary), and I couldn't find that screenshot in any of the settings menus, nor could I locate it via "settings, under device, call. UK EE" as someone suggested in that thread. I do have a "Device Connection" menu and a "Call" menu, but they're separate menus not nested in one another. And I can't find any menu or option that says "UK EE".
So, it sounds like no one can find any Wifi calling toggle in any settings menu, correct?
nnotis said:
So, it sounds like no one can find any Wifi calling toggle in any settings menu, correct?
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A couple people have mentioned seeing it...someplace. One person said he saw it under the pencil looking icon in the drop down shade, but I've never been able to locate it up there no matter what firmware I've flashed too. It appears to be pretty elusive.
Adrift98 said:
A couple people have mentioned seeing it...someplace. One person said he saw it under the pencil looking icon in the drop down shade, but I've never been able to locate it up there no matter what firmware I've flashed too. It appears to be pretty elusive.
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It's probably checking for some condition to show the menu.
If you extract the EE firmware you would probable be able to do a text search for T-Mobile and find the apps that have that then decompile the one that sounds like the most likely to have the functionality (probably one with the word customization in the name) and check the logic which enables the functionality and even change and re-compile it. You would also be able to see if it connects to a specific gateway for the wifi calling and if so try to change that too..
Theoretically a company won't spend the money to develop different Wifi calling mechanisms for different countries and thus it should work but then again...
weasal said:
It's probably checking for some condition to show the menu.
If you extract the EE firmware you would probable be able to do a text search for T-Mobile and find the apps that have that then decompile the one that sounds like the most likely to have the functionality (probably one with the word customization in the name) and check the logic which enables the functionality and even change and re-compile it. You would also be able to see if it connects to a specific gateway for the wifi calling and if so try to change that too..
Theoretically a company won't spend the money to develop different Wifi calling mechanisms for different countries and thus it should work but then again...
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I wouldn't know how to begin to do all of that.
Adrift98 said:
I wouldn't know how to begin to do all of that.
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You can follow this to extract the system partition (system.sln) and get it's contents to your hard drive: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1723284
Then you can use your file explorer (on Windows or whatever your OS is) to search for a text string (make sure you tell it to look only inside *.apk to avoid getting too many results). Once you find the apk files that could be what you need you can then use this: http://www.decompileandroid.com/ to decompile the apps so you get source code.
From then on it's a bit trickier, you'll need to make your way trough the configuration and maybe even the code to figure out where they store the connection info or what exactly do they connect to (it looks like the app uses your sim card to authenticate so that shouldn't require any tweaking).
Or you can just wait and hope this is true: https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/81359 or maybe it's already in M : http://www.phone-probe.com/android-m-features-native-wifi-calling/
Oh is that all? Simple.
It might be easier to just locate the apps needed for US T-Mobile wifi calling from another phone and install them on a z5c with EE firmware since the core OS code needed would be provided by the EE firmware and the US specific stuff will come from the apps.
This has a list that might actually be complete: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302313 and you can ignore any jar files that are listed since that should come with the EE firmware.
The fact that there is a z5c firmware that supports Wifi calling is what's important here - you have all the proprietary and OS stuff baked in, you just need the US specific bits/configuration.
I'm sorry if this wasn't in the right area, I googled up this same question and this board has it the most it seems. If its in the wrong area, please move the topic to the right area so I know where to ask next tome (or link and I'll delete this ((if possible)) and recreate).
I've been using PDANet USB Tethering for the last 3 years or so with Boost Mobile, Samsung Galaxy S3. My phone is showing severe signs of age and issues, and I'm having tons of PDANet related issues. I have unlimited 4G LTE data, but I can't use my wireless tether because the phone company detects it and stops it at 8GB where as USB tethering I've gotten 100+ GB in a single month no issues.
I'm looking for a new phone I can get, that I can somehow mask everything I do on it so that the phone company is unable to see what I'm doing on it, and won't be able to determine if I'm using my phone's wireless tethering features. I prefer a smartphone, obviously, cause I do take it with me where I go and like to have access to my apps. I'm inexperienced with installing ROMs or rooting, never figured out how with my S3 because all the topics are outdated and inaccurate and I only ended up damaging the phone trying. I've got about a week or two to find a new phone that will work with Boost Mobile. My current phone's network mode is CDMA/LTE/EVDO, just to give you an idea of what network I'd need to use for Boost (CDMA I guess?). I need 4G as well, it seems that 3G doesn't work at all at my location and I only get 1 bar of 4G LTE when I'm at home in a specific 3 inch by 3 inch space in my room that I have to tape my phone down to, but at least it works.
There's no other internet options available to me where I live, so my phone is my internet. Just to clarify before people suggest getting an internet service.
Just to be sure, I don't want anything made by Apple, but that should be obvious, posting in the Android forum.
I have found that Boost Mobile won't let me use anything but like 6 specific phones only. Two of the choices being the S7 and the S8.
I've done a search on Amazon looking for unlocked S8 phones, however the comments and reports all claim these unlocked devices are a lie and don't actually work with services they claim to, or have conflicting reports and such. I'm unable to find an Unlocked S8 for use with Boost Mobile.
I've found that I can edit the APN to add 'dun' to my type list, to bypass the data limit of Mobile Hotspot, however I am hoping that it doesn't also cause the company to start charging me hundreds of dollars a month. I want to make sure they can't actually see the traffic either, I don't want my ISP knowing what I'm doing online, because they will just turn around and sell every website I visit to third parties which is now a thing in the USA.
I'd rather Boost not know whats installed on my phone or what websites I visit.
Thread closed as per OP request.
Hi all...
I recently, and mistakenly, bought the AT&T version of the G Pad 8.0 X.....it was a mistake because I didn't realize I wouldn't be able to use simple dialer and sms apps.
Can anyone PLEASE educate me on one or both of the questions below?
1) What has AT&T done to prevent dialers and sms apps from interacting directly with the LTE interface
2) Is it a certainty that the v521 ROM will not work on the v520? Based on LTE bands supported by each I assume it's different radio hardware but wanted to see if I could get more details from anyone here.
At this point I've thrown away $75 on this tablet because not being able to send and receive sms is a deal breaker for me and I don't know if I feel like going through the hassle of trying to resell it. I'm willing to be a guinea pig in trying to install the v521 ROM on the v520.... IF there's a chance it could work.
Is there any way to receive sms messages from my carrier via data only? I'm told that Hangouts used to have this functionality but no longer does?
Appreciate anyone who will take a moment to share their knowledge....thank you very much folks
Kevin
These devices don't have voice capability. The modem is not configured to do so.
Now for SMS, they do have that ability. If you don't have an SMS app, get one. Googles SMS app, messaging. Blue icon. The tmo ROM has SMS baked in.
I have both the T-Mobile V-521 and AT&T V-520. Actually, I have a working V-521, a broken V-521, and two working V-520s.
I use T-Mobile, and I have been frustrated with the AT&T version's lack of SMS and hotspot. Though I can live without the hotspot, I use SMS a lot, and I'd really like to have it on the AT&T version.
I've tried installing a number of SMS apps on the V-520, and no luck at all. They all act as if there's no hardware available to use for SMS, and give a variety of errors (or no error at all) and do not work for me.
I took apart the broken V-521, and I saw a series of jumpers labeled "V521", "V520" and a few others, though I don't recall which. (I'll take it apart again and see.)
I've wondered if these jumpers turn on/off hardware features, or access different ROMs or other model-specific features.
Would changing the jumper from V520 to V521 give it the "personality" of the T-Mobile version, and activate SMS and hotspot?
I'd be willing to "sacrifice" one of the AT&T tablets, because I don't use it at all, due to the lack of SMS.
I'm also available to analyze either model, at someone's direction, to see what is going on with them.
I'm happy to cooperate in almost any way, to help those of us with the AT&T version get more functionality from it!